If bitcoin is ever going to be used by the masses, the price should get up to at least a million dollars, in order to give value to small amounts and so that a lot of people can own it.  I see it as definitely possible, but I don't think it's going to happen within the next few years.   But I've been totally wrong about crypto before, so my thoughts don't mean a hell of a lot.

Can you imagine how rich these people from Africa, the Philippines, and the rest of the poor countries would be just from presently working on sig campaigns--assuming they save it and don't gamble or whatever.   Campaigns will probably only pay a few satoshis, and unfortunately the network fees would probably be unheard of.   That's something I don't look forward to.

It's a bullshit coin that has no utility whatsoever, but occasionally people create "topics" like this one in a blatantly manipulative effort to pump a little life into it in order to create enough interest in it so that the OP can get his buy order fulfilled.

In short, it's a zombie coin that no one uses for anything but to fleece sucker money out of the suckers.  This piece of digital detritus will fall to 1 satoshi and will be featured in yobit's free coin section eventually, believe me.  Don't be the gullible sucker who buys this, because you'll lose eventually.

OP, do you have any sort of link backing up your statement?   Are you talking about 1 btc being able to buy a mansion?   How are we supposed to discuss this when you're too fucking lazy yourself to spark any discussion?

This is why noob jail should be reinstated and no one under legendary status should be able to start topics. 

I wouldn't buy a house in Moscow.   Never been anywhere even remotely close to there, and I have no plans to travel to that country.

That's exactly what I was thinking.  Letting junior members into sig campaigns is a horrible idea.  That means a legion of alt accounts who shitpost will be the ones who join up, guaranteed.  Don't know if this is a legit project or not, but deep onion should go the way that the SMAS members have gone--Full members and above ONLY.  Yes, it might lead to account sales, but that's already happening anyway.  I have serious doubts as to whether noobs can make quality posts.  Most of the garbage on bitcointalk is due to members below Senior.

Remember the Yobit and Secondstrade campaigns?  They let in anyone with a pulse, and those two alone were responsible for the vast majority of shitposting crap that made its way to this forum.

I think it'd be a great idea, and the ultimate one in converting the most non-tangible asset in the world for one of the most tangible ones.

New bitcoin acceptance anywhere is a good thing in my opinion, even though I'm not a fan of spending it.  I'm sure there are some bitcoin whales out there who'd love to convert their crypto for a house, land, whatever.  Hell, if I had enough I'd do it myself.  And there are probably countries in existence where you could put a down payment on a house after saving up signature campaign earnings for a few years.  Am I right about that?

You think?  I don't know.  I'm happy Dash has gotten to $300--I honestly never believed that would happen in my lifetime, though of course I don't own any anymore, having sold what I had at like $3.  Figures.

Take a look at what's offered on Yobit, and you'll see trade volumes of 0.1BTC/day, and they're all valued at a few satoshi.  The ones with no buy walls and no way to even sell them.  Those pieces of shit are probably the most overvalued altcoins in existence.  Things like Ripple & Dash & litecoin, people use those for stuff.  Doge, too.  It's hard to say they're "overvalued" when people are actually paying money for them.  This has always been my problem in crypto.  People try to analyze shitcoins like they're stocks, and it just isn't possible.  There are no earnings, and no business conditions that should affect them.  So basically the market says what they're worth every second, every minute of the day.  How can you say a coin is overvalued when that's the price people are paying for them?

Yah, no big deal.  Should have checked beforehand but was a dumbass and didn't.   Story of my life.

Good luck to all the non-dumbasses.

Not gonna happen.  You think any politician or state agency is going to be willing or able to justify buying crypto for no reason?   Hell no they're not.  Especially something as volatile and potentially money-losing as bitcoin.  And they would have no reason for trying to corner the market--or buy any at all.

As to what would happen,  bitcoin would quickly lose its popularity and would become a centralized, government shitcoin.  And then we'd move on to the next best coin.  Probably eth or litecoin or some such.

I call bullshit. Ask any billionaire how they made money, and it's either stocks, owning a business, or real estate--they didn't make their fortune or empire buying precious metals,at retail prices!  Don't believe youtube videos of people telling you to buy metals. They've been doing and saying the same thing for years--and the price of silver has been flat for years.  Doom is always imminent, and the bull market that will take gold to the moon is always around the corner.

Look at coinflation.com and you'll see links to articles on precious metals, and they've been chanting the same mantra since way before 2011.  It's all bullshit.

Edit: having said all that, I do own some silver.  Not for the reasons that these youtube hucksters give.  I like coins and metals, but metal makes up a minute portion of my assets.  Almost insignificant.

Gameristo, I stopped short of calling you a scammer or money launderer.  I'm not necessarily worried about a chargeback, because you do have an extensive history of successful trades.

There's two things about this: First, you are sending money to a person unsolicited, and second you're using PayPal accounts with different names.  That second part to me is very shady.  And it puts me in an awkward position and makes me do transactions I don't want to do.  

Can you please verify here that you received the $170 back from me?  And I didn't understand what you said about refunding you.  I was under the impression that you wanted to be contacted first before refunding to the same address, which is exactly what I did.

Nope, not yet.

Lol, I don't even know what you just wrote.  The mechanics of crypto completely escape me--but I believe you.  From what little I do know, most shitcoins are clones, or at least wannabees to bitcoin's empire.

Do I think something could come along and take bitcoin's place.  Yes.  Is there anything now that could do it?  Maybe.  But it's pretty obvious that people's attitudes would have to shift dramatically, because right now when people think of crypto, it's bitcoin almost exclusively.  When the media mentions anything about crypto, it's bitcoin.  I've seen ETH mentioned, and that's kind of the one I'm thinking of as a true contender.

None of these smaller shitcoins stand a chance, and I mean the pansy-ass ones that trade for a few satoshis on Yobit.  The ones with no buy orders.  The ones that most noobs on bitcointalk keep trying to hype up.

Cryptodevil is loud and arrogant, but he's also very, very smart--and he'll probably be the first to tell you.  In other words, a complete bastard but when it comes to ICO scams, I'll believe him if he calls it out.

The bastards are usually the ones who don't suffer fools lightly around here and see this forum as full of them, and the bastards are correct.  There are way too many people bringing garbage to the market, and bitcointalk is full of idiots who buy up every single one hoping to find the next bitcoin.  Some of them have no clue what they're doing, and it's those people that Cryptodevil, Vod, and others are trying to save from themselves.  If you pussyfoot around here, no one will respect or take you seriously.  You kind of need to be a bastard.

OP, I know where you're coming from, but all of these price projections are based on past information.  This is the whole reason why I don't subscribe to technical analysis--you're looking at past price movements and hoping(!) that patterns repeat themselves.  And they most often do not.

Look at the list of all the richest stock market investors.  None of them got their billions of dollars by looking at charts.  None of them are technical analysts--they usually employ fundamental analysis, like Warren Buffet.  That tells me that TA doesn't work.  So we can hope bitcoin is headed to $10,000 or more, and it might be, but you can't tell from those charts.

Ah, all the noobs using the word "dump" indiscriminately.  Please stop it.  I've said this over and over:  "pump & dump" refers to a scam.  That's it's only legitimate use.  When prices fall, they fall, and when they go up they go up.  Something doesn't "pump".  Every time I read that, it's the most moronic thing ever.

I have one sharp eye on the altcoin market, and it looks like stuff is rebounding a little.  Go to Yobit to gamble away on the altcoins.  This OP is a few days old, so shit that was blasting upward is probably getting slaughtered now.  It's all a game for fools to lose their money on.  That's the only logical way of looking at it.  You ever going to spend these shitcoins on something tangible?  Hell no you're not.  They're worthless pieces of p&d schemes.

You know what I recommend?  Don't listen to anyone on bitcointalk as far as what shitcoin to buy--because most of them are exactly that, pure shit.  I've seen threads like these over and over, and the only thing people post is what they've bought and are trying to hype up, and probably to unload onto suckers.

Also, if you're specifically looking for advice on how to double your money, there's no one here who can tell you that with a straight face--or without trying to suck you into a Ponzi scheme.

You also might get lucky just buying bitcoin.  I have a feeling the rocket ship to the moon is now boarding.  We've been stalled at $3600 or so for what seems like an eternity.

You've got to be joking.  "Making a living" on bitcoin--that'd be through sig campaigns or trading, right?   There's no way in god's effing green countryside I can make a living in the United States doing either of those things.  Unless you have income of some sort you won't be able to pay rent, food, or have diaper money.  Some of these scunts on bitcointalk might get lucky on one of the dice sites, but that's not steady income.   

No, the only way I know of to support myself is to work.  There's no way I can do anything in the world of bitcoin that's going to pay my bills.   Oddly enough, this exact question gets asked a lot. You guys can try it if you like, but unless you're a geek programmer, it ain't gonna happen.

Lol, can those things actually make you money?  I've heard of them but never contemplated using one--and I've never even seen one in action.  As far as whether they're toxic to altcoins, I don't believe that's the case.  A lot of wall street firms use trading software, and they say it helps because they "inject liquidity" into the market.  I don't see that as being a bad thing, and who gives a shit whether the bot knows the fundamentals?  In crypto there aren't really any fundamentals to analyze.  It's all guesswork based on emotion and politics.  Most of these coins are shit anyway.   You're not going to wreck the world if you use one.

OP what are you bitching about?  You left a generalized, trolly-as-fuck "critical" post in his thread,  which furthermore is self-moderated.  This thread right here should be nuked, because you have no expectation that anyone who self moderates a thread should put up with trolling garbage, especially from some stupid shitposting noob.  I probably would have deleted any post by you just for being English language handicapped.  Don't post in threads like that if you don't want to get your posts deleted.

I also have no doubt that you're an alt account of one of these trolls who keep starting anti-Lauda threads.  That shit is getting old.

Edit:  I read too fast and too little and missed that.  Well, you're not teaching anyone a lesson here.  That's the way this forum is.  Maybe you can become a shotcaller when you rank up and if you get on the DT list.  Till then, suck it up, buttercup.

Dude, I'd be all over a coin like that, except I have a very strong feeling that the altcoin market right now is as saturated as it gets.  But I'm yhe kind of person who's so addicted to crypto that I still use faucets even though I know they're a waste of time.  But if I could mine an altcoin while I'm at work and have access to wifi?  Hell yes I'd do it.  Too bad you can't do that with bitcoin or some of the bigger name altcoins, like doge.  I'd be mining in a heartbeat.

Right, like you should be giving anyone advice about clarity of speech.

This is exactly why this forum has gone to the dogs.  This should be in the local boards, but it's here and threads get filled with redundant answers and attempts to interpret what the OP means.  Then I show up and get all meta on your asses, and we're all earning money doing this.  So now that I've made an appearance, let's just lock this thread, eh?