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11281  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 13, 2016, 04:20:56 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas

steady income in bitcoin without activity doin anything
you can lending your bitcoin but still few activity
if you investment in cloud mining you can still activity, you must login to website request withdraw coinfirm withdraw to inbox email

if you want growth money you must still activity, maybe few activity doing but must still activity
You can lend but definitely you will at high risk, lending in the crypto world is not profitable in my own opinion because you cannot ascertain if the borrowers are going to pay their debts due to less collateral issue, the value of the collateral is not good and you cannot sell it right away once the borrower defaults.
11282  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do you buy Bitcoins? on: September 13, 2016, 04:17:05 AM
Sometimes I buy it to trade, and sometimes to invest in different projects related to cryptocurrencies and blockchain applications. I believe that one of the bitcoin's advantages is the possibility for doing such investments.
Buying bitcoins for investment is good because you will have to expect that your investment will grow then if you are buying bitcoins to gamble then that is the problem as most of the gamblers are not profitable.
11283  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: September 13, 2016, 04:09:43 AM
I was got bitcoin by face to face with someone that have bitcoin. I didn't know where I can convert my bitcoin to fiat or fiat to bitcoin. Make a transaction like that make my bitcoin prise lower. Anyone can help me, where I can convert it?
You seem new to this forum but you current rank does not tell it, actually it is just easy, where are you living by the way? If you are living in a country that has a bank established then for sure you have a local exchange their, just create an account and you are good to go.
11284  Economy / Services / Re: Signature Campaign on: September 13, 2016, 03:47:24 AM
How this is going to be manage by you? do we need to post here or on your site, if you would ask me I would prefer to receive a bigger pay like 0.015 per post if you like it, but if not then let's negotiate, maybe you have a standard price then.
11285  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: September 13, 2016, 03:45:15 AM
I think the bitcoin wallet is a very good option, despite the fact that it needs some improvements. You have to remember that the bank fees are still too high. And to use the banks there is the problem of centralization, which limits the control over your funds.

Yeah dude the bank fees are still too high rather than bitcoin wallet that only take under one dollar fees. Even monthly administration fees also feel too heavy if we only keep a little fiat on bank
The good thing is bitcoin has the same rate of fund transfer and it can be send with the average transaction time unlike banks that the fees will vary depending on international or domestic transfer, but it terms of security banks are more secured though therefore it only depends on individual on how to weight things over.
11286  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: September 13, 2016, 03:40:21 AM
I think that doing both is way better, you should save up some money and also invest some into the bitcoin because the bitcoin has a good future.
If the bitcoin, is getting up you can make some nice amount if you invested and that is why you should keep doing this.

Saving your money in form of bitcoin is good, but you won't earn much that way... I think it is better if you would use that savings in something that could make you earn more.. Be more productive with your savings, except if you have day job too and you don't have much time in doing online things to earn more from your bitcoin savings...  Smiley
Well, that depends on how much you save for bitcoin, if you are saving a big amount of money then surely you will also earn a big amount of profit, what matters in the end is you will be able to accumulate the amount base on your targeted plan, and sell it when the right time comes.
11287  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: September 13, 2016, 03:16:38 AM
worth for me because i can see good future in this currency and i can earning it beside my real life job
You are right, the future is more important to us now, we believe the future of bitcoin will deliver us good profit and though this is risky but with the recent developments and the trials we were able to surpass in the past, bitcoin is a strong coin that will be progress in the future.
11288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: September 13, 2016, 03:07:27 AM
Yes i consider trading as gambling because the trading and gambling is  both them risky because you can win or lose . The trading is like gambling or buy a bitcoin altcoins but you never know when it increases and can decrease the kays sold so you can simply sink or eventually beat . Also gambling you can win or lose so they are both risky .

After a lot of thinking, I must say that gambling is different to trading. Yes, it is both risky ( I agree with you ) and there is always a possibility that you will lose but, trading have one difference. The difference between them is that, you have a hold on the coins/thing that you've traded which is different to gambling. Even the price of the traded coins have sunked out, remember that you still have the coins in your hand.
in most case trading on bitcoin/altcoin are just like gambling.
if you are an altcoin active trader in mid 2014 to early 2015 you will have to know about profitcoin PFC.
ProfitCoin PFC that owned by Hash Profit (scam cloudmining) have a high price at first time .
and become scam coin in the end with zero value means you have nothing left on your wallet.
is it gambling? yes i said in most case trading are gambling.
It is gambling but you can analyze the data you have, like now there are altcoins that has a great value and will boom in the future but we cannot have assurance that we will profit in the long run, we still need to do our job and that is to monitor the price regularly and the inside market as well.
11289  Economy / Economics / Re: Why better tech can't kill Bitcoin on: September 12, 2016, 08:55:35 AM
The bitcoin price will not rise for the next few weeks. If you want to make some quick profit, you can buy some altcoins such as Ethereum.
So you have information that price of BTC will be stagnant but ETH will rise for sure? I doubt it. Currently bitcoin market is in the phase of consolidation, soon price will lift off.
Experts prediction that it could reach $700 with no problem this time.


And why exactly we are discussing price and fork repercussions of ETH vs. ETC in last 10 posts?
ETH and BTC cannot be compared because bitcoin is more legitimate and we have proven that in the past, I just have no trust for the future of ETH so I would say it is only good for short term investment or trading because the trend is very predictable and trading in ETH is always profitable.
11290  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WHAT CAN I DO WITH 0.1 BTC ?? on: September 12, 2016, 08:51:02 AM
Exchange it to fiat and buy things you need the most. Dont invest it, youre only giving your btc away for free.
You can also gamble it and have some fun.
That is still a good amount of money to start in trading, if you have a lot of money you can gamble it for fun but if you want to grow it then definitely gambling is not the answer, learn to trade and that is a good amount for star up and just add your capital once you learn to make profit.
11291  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: September 12, 2016, 08:49:06 AM
Yeah and I think saving is mandatory for all of us to reduce the risk in future as we very well know that future is uncertain so if you have saved enough money regularly then it can take care of you in challenging situation.

No, it is not mandatory you can always have some spare invested on some investment that has high liquidity so whenever anytime that you has the urge to use your money then you can always change it back to money. This is of course much better than just saving your money for the bank to use freely
That depends on an individual person but I would say it should be mandatory as we do not ascertain our future and we need money to spend in the even something bad happen, it is not always that we are healthy so without money we die easily.
11292  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: September 12, 2016, 08:44:44 AM
You have a point gold could be hidden  to make it safe but its unlike bitcoin that you could store  it in many place like  online or hardware wallet or even in you pc. Digital currency and  a Precious mineral  cant be really compared since it has many advantages and disadvantages among the two.

It is ridiculous to see this actually. You are comparing gold to bitcoin when what you are comparing is actually the advantages of bitcoin over gold. Admit it there is nothing that gold has that is much better than bitcoin except for its stable price and apart from that there is none already
Bitcoin is more stable in terms of investment for now, because it is widely accepted and ordinary people would prefer to have gold instead of a thousand bitcoin, that is how gold had already enter into our economy and we have trust it so much, only us who sees the benefits of bitcoin but we cannot ascertain the future still unlike the gold.
11293  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW MUCH YOU EARN/LOSE FROM TRADING on: September 12, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
i earn a lot of money from trading because trading is very much beneficial and trading have too much less risk and i think that trading is very good way to earn money in big amount and there maximum people are earning good money through trading.
but i think earning or loosing from trading is not fixed and not predictable to say that how much can on gain or lose from bitcoin, but the time proved ever thing on their correct time, but still i will like to say that i am pretty good in trading and have made good profit.
Good to hear from you, if you are really convince that you can earn money in trading then it is just right to put more money as your capital, if I were in your situation having that skills to make consistent money I would definitely risk more money and bet myself to be successful in trading.
11294  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: September 12, 2016, 08:26:24 AM
How to earn money with bitcoin ?

There are several ways:

1. You can just buy Bitcoin and hold it until the price increases to the level which you consider sufficient to profit from selling. (HINT: Do not sell in case the price goes down, just wait a bit, you'll be fine).

2. You can do some services: photoshop, coding, promoting etc. and earn Bitcoins this way.

3. You can trade (which I don't recommend) and you can gamble (which I recommend even less than trading).

4. You can invest in a Cloud mining (which with 99% certainty will make you lose your money or at least part of it, so I don't recommend this either).

...

The list above is not full of course but those are ways which generally come to mind.

Just exclude investment in cloud mining because certainly it is not the way to earn bitcoin but to lose bitcoin, the others that are suggested are really good and if you have the skills the better because you will earn more money than those who are just working for micro jobs.
11295  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: September 12, 2016, 08:23:26 AM
I think btc as a salary will be way too risky, most employees could not accept it. The price is still too volatile, and if it crashes people will lose money. I do not think they will take that risk.

i agree to you price are so volatile it cant hit your exact amount of your salary which is it could be to low or to high but if we are talking that it is always too high then it could be nice like now price is rising but i think it is going down again then that could be risky as a employee.

Its really a risky thing especially if  we fully rely on our  monthly salary on our   day job and we have  already a family it would  be really an  disadvantage when we decide  to accept bitcoin as our salary. Same as others said that   the price of bitcoin would really affect  our salary rate. It has advantages and disadvantages though.

It can benefit us if price goes higher but no one is sure what will be the price in future and that makes it really risky to accept salary in bitcoins as if price falls then it can reduce our level of income.
For me, it can only benefit me if the price will be stable because I do not want to gamble my salary as I know I am not that lucky that every time I receive my salary the price bitcoin will rise and that is not realistic instead because we know how bitcoin's price fluctuates.
11296  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: September 12, 2016, 08:17:15 AM
Hey guys I'm not sure if this is the right place so please tell me if it is not. With that out of the way, I have a question for you all. I have recently been able to gather about .5 btc through minor trading and I was wondering if there was any method or way to grow this btc into a larger amount safely and fairly quickly. Thanks!
if you want to grow your bitcoins safely then it won't possible quickly, most quick profit method involve big risk of losing your money
I will suggest you to try investing in new altcoins or if possibly then invest in litecoin, you may see some good profit, after litecoin's block rewards halve, that is going to happen in ~10 days from now, so after block reward halving we can see price bump in litecoin.
There are allot of ways to grow bitcoins and that is not strange because you can almost do everything with the bitcoin so i dont understand why people think it is difficult to deal with bitcoins.
Just invest your bitcoin to grow because if you will just keep it you need to wait for a long period of time to earn profit, start trading today as trading is very profitable and that has been proven by the many successful traders who got rich already and even getting richer because they know the secret to make money.
11297  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: September 12, 2016, 08:05:44 AM
I think this is an old thread trying to attract people to sell bitcoins so that they can buy bitcoins to make a good profit if the price of bitcoin will increase again back..
This is just like in trading section that they are saying that there is a big crash so people will sell their holding coins after that the price will redice and they will buy for cheap price so that they can make a profit if the price will increase again back,,
People shouldn't take OP serious in the first place as it has more looks of being a thread made for trolling purposes.

If some one will actually sell his coins just because of this thread, then that person is very dumb and easy to manipulate into thinking and doing something.

the thread isn't even about a bitcoin crash, but an economic (dollar) crash.

Yeah but anyways now I am seeing that bitcoin is probably going to crash just look at recent price changes went up by alot and just in one night dropped like 5% instantly and still going down right now so I think a big bitcoin crash will be unavoidable.
LOL, you are not getting used to the price movement of bitcoin, 5% would not be called as crash because that is just a normal fluctuation for bitcoin, we are going to have a wonderful increase this year and that will continue until the end of the year.
11298  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: September 11, 2016, 01:29:07 PM
Is it possible to earn 1000 or atleast 100 bitcoins with trading Altcoins.If I buy some bitcoin at cheaper rate today and it's price goes up in future?Which alt you think has potential to make me 1000 btc

In my view, it is difficult to earn 1000 or even 100 bitcoins from altcoin trading, if you have big assets and invest in trading than may be it possible, but also it depend on your skills, if you know very well about altcoin trading, than may be you can earn it, otherwise i realize altcoin trading give us small profit, i never saw anyone to a make big profit from it.
There is no impossible in making money in trading altcoins, depends on your capital because you cannot project a bigger profit with less capital, a trader should be realistic enough in order for him to make the right decision on his investment and reach his goal.
11299  Economy / Services / Re: CoinMixer.se | Signature Campaign on: September 11, 2016, 01:22:42 PM
People should really think twice before joining this campaign, since OP doesn't mentioned for escrow and that one should really thr main requirement for a campaign so their participants will have assurance so they can get their payments on the right date and time, and also their is a scam campaign already happened here before,so people should really be more vigilants since he is offering also a mixing services.
There was actually a new thread for this campaign which was manage by SFR, I wonder why this thread was not close yet when SFR wants this thread to be close already by the OP to avoid confusion among the applicants.
11300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 11, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
As of now yes there are some safest method in gambling people are lazy to find it how it works and if you find one dont share it to anybody so yout luck will never leave your side hihi kidding sharing is caring play smart play with strategy play with low bets play with all happines play with your guts

There's no way to play "smart" or with "strategy" in games like dice, slots, roulette, etc., no matter what you do, you will not get over the house edge, meaning you can't expect to see profit in the long run (lots of low bets).
True there is no strategy or play smart in gambling because it will be useless. Gambling is simply a game that requires luck to win or lose depending on our luck. But we can gamble safely to avoid addiction. Judi safe to avoid addiction is by betting small amounts and good self-control. It is necessary to avoid defeat in large amounts.

You have a point somehow but still even if you bet on small amounts then you play  regularly and  lose regularly it would also lead to addiction for sure since the emotion would  build  up especially  when the time comes that your aim to gain back your losses would sure come out and  you cant stop that it really depends on our self control and self awareness. True, there are no safe methods on gambling since  its a matter  of luck game only.
The secret there is just to forget your loses and you can do that easily when you are betting the amount you can afford to lose, there is no small or big amount in gambling because we do not have the financial status in life, what matters only is we can afford our loses and enjoy gambling at the same time.
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