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1141  Economy / Speculation / Re: A technical view of Bitcoin's Current Market Situation and what to anticipate. on: August 02, 2023, 01:43:36 PM
It'll probably just spend a few more weeks bouncing around on either side of $30k, and then break out to like $33k-$35k late August or September.

We will see, I also have the feeling that we will get into or break $30k again. That is the biggest barrier so far, however, we have breach it already and pushing as high as $31k, just not enough momentum.

And what the OP is pointing out is what we have seen been playing, although I would extend the support line at $28k. Which we eventually reach but then we have a quick bounce back to highs of $29k.
1142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Collective bets in local lotteries on: August 02, 2023, 12:39:32 PM


Maybe it can be tried but we have to ensure who can be in that group. We could choose our close friends to be a group so there is no jealousy or other feelings.

We really never know our friend until there's money involved, friends will agree on the terms when you're betting but it's different when you all win, there's also betrayal and quarrel along the way like if the person who thinks of the number ask for more shares.

So many things have to be settled or at least get the help of an attorney so you can all be guided on how to proceed in case your group the jackpot so everybody is bounded by an agreement created by lawyers, to avoid this hustle its better to just bet on your own if you hit the jackpot there is no agreement to follow.

This is also what I thought, I remember when I was a kid there was one story in our neighborhood wherein some individuals will asked a person to go to a lottery and put a bet on them. So usually this goes on smooth for months or for years, until suddenly when one of his patrons won a decent amount, it's not a the jackpot but like 5 out 6 numbers. But this man disappears and taking the winnings by himself and he was never seen again. And as you have said, when money is involved, even small amount, you really don't know what people are going to do.
1143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023 on: August 02, 2023, 12:03:17 PM
Donaire is emotionally hurt after finding out that his father who used to be his former trainer on his first title shot against Darchinyan predicted that he would be knocked out by Santiago

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Wow.  Just found out that my DAD was predicting I'd get koed by Santiago.  That stings differently

https://twitter.com/filipinoflash/status/1686490127613427712

Nonito Donaire Jr. ‘hurt’ after dad predicted he would get knocked out by Santiago

They have a very bitter parting of ways Donaire Sr. should not say that thing it's like wishing that his son to be in trouble you never do that to your son, boxing is a dangerous sport he knows it since he is a trainer also, by saying this he doesn't care on his son anymore.

Yes, I also read this feed in my twitter, I thought him and his father has settled their differences already. But it seems the older Donaire has some hatchet to bury with his son. And it's really sad to hear this one.

It was a bitter separation as far as I can remember, the involvement of Rachel Donaire as a manager in his boxing career really put a dent on his father and they were never the same again.
1144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023 on: July 30, 2023, 02:25:49 AM
For sure many of us here lost our bet on Nonito Donaire. He can still pull the trigger but it didn't put a dent on Santiago. This guy is tough as he was able to survived the first couple of rounds wherein Donaire still has the strength and usually he does knockout his opponent in the first 4-5 rounds.

But it will be a disadvantage for his as his legs might not be there when the fight goes to middle up to the end, for 12 rounds. His age definitely shows in this fight. Not saying that he should retire already, only him and Rachel can decide what's good for him. But he can't take a beating like this at 40 years old, just saying.
1145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 on: July 30, 2023, 01:47:04 AM

I hope it will work that way and not goes to the decision where the fight goes to the fighter who the judges wanted to win it most.  I also think that these two boxer will take their time sizing each other and action might start at the mid-round  maybe 4 or 5 rounds where action will start escalating.  I hope this fight won't be boring where the fight becomes a chess battle waiting and reacting.

I expect a slow start for both fighters because they both have respect for each other's power and reputation they will size each other for the first three rounds, and the action will start in round 4 and up, where they need to take action to compile points or have the advantage before they head to the middle rounds, we will know who has the upper hands in the middle rounds and if the fights go the distance both fighters will pour it out in the championship rounds.
Anywhere I look at it, it will be a very exciting match.

Yeah, Spence said that he wants to dictate the phase and uses his jab. So it's going to be a technical fight here, with Spence using his jab and most likely Crawford switching from lefty to orthodox as he is known to do this a lot in his fight to confuse his opponents.

It could be very well go to distance, but I'm thinking that in this fight, we will see someone going down in the later rounds. As they will be going at it in the middle rounds and then someone controlling it in the championships round and maybe score a knockout.
1146  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I'm new here on Bitcointalk because Bitcointalk is important for Bitcoin on: July 29, 2023, 07:57:04 AM
I hope, I'm not late for Bitcoin because Bitcoin already grew a lot.
Also, Bitcointalk has many established member. I try to make a good contribution, I try to be polite ofcourse.
Bitcointalk has many interesting topic. Everyone who knows Bitcoin should know Bitcointalk.
And we can learn A LOT from Bitcointalk.

Happy to be here and learn.

No one is late here, everyone is welcome including newbies like you. Don't think that you are late, on the contrary, your timing is right, we are still in the bear market and if your intention is to become a long term holder, then this is the right time to accumulate.

Of course, not just in this community, in any forum you need to be polite and that's why we have rules to follow here as well.

If you want then you can play around and read threads that interests you. And if you have questions then you can ask. But used the search button first as your question might have been asked before.
1147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - November on: July 29, 2023, 07:42:22 AM
I do not want to see this fight if Tank will be a little pussycat again and put various clauses in the contract to make the opponent weak when he goes to the ring. Tank does not want legacy, he only wants easy fights and money.

Tank has plenty of options at 135 and 140 all of which would be considered superfights, yet here we are with the Showtime Sports president trying to match him against a smaller fighter. Inoue is considered #1 pound for pound by most people and is well known across the world. There is no reason for him to accept any ridiculous limitations because he is an A-side fighter.

If we are very lucky that they announce something in the future, we will see. I am quite certain Tank Davis' team will play their dirty tricks to get an advantage before the fight. I reckon for Davis, the war begins during negotiations and similar to a real war, there will be nothing fair about it. However, yes, you are also right. Inoue is an A-list fighter, it would be on his terms. He would also not be stupid to agree to unfair deals like Ryan Garcia's team.

We've seen how and sorry for Tank Davis fans, but it seems that they are very treacherous in terms of their negotiations with Ryan Garcia and for sure this has been their tactics ever since as they included a lot in the contract that they are going to benefit and at the same disadvantageous like rehydration clause.

So yeah, we will see, not sure though if we can see this kind of fight in the future. Maybe Tank will go up as high as 147 lbs and then Inoue only at 130 lbs and that will only leave Manny Pacquiao as the only 8 division champ, from 108-154 lbs climb.
1148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hold coin on: July 28, 2023, 09:17:53 AM
what would you do if you got money?  
which coin do you prefer to hold for long-term or short term and what do you expect from your portfolio?

If you ask that question from me then I say that I try to hold BTC because first of all, BTC is a modern form of money I think soon cryptocurrency f*** the paper money. then everything should be traded in digital coins like BTC and others.
BTC is now much lower than his ATH which means if you buy BTC at that time it means you can see a huge profit in the future but if only you hold BTC for a long time. it means a patent is required for it. that one also boosts your portfolio.
I think BTC broke his ATH in the year 2025 and make a new ATH on 100k what is your opinion?

Since you mentioned BTC a lot then for sure majority here is also going to look or hold BTC for a long time and most likely those who have been in many bear/bull market knows how to play this game as compare to some newbies, just saying.

In any case, you should also be doing that. I mean being a long time holder, or buy as much BTC as you can and simply hold and wait for the next ATH and take the profit. $100k? maybe, no know has the crystal ball to see what lies in the future. That's why the best approach is to just purchase while the price is still cheap and then we will see how far the price will go in the next bull run.
1149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How would you measure your success in Crypto currency on: July 28, 2023, 03:49:00 AM
Many said its absolutely a scam, pathetic and more. but crypto currency has favored to those who trusted on it, In terms of cross border payment, p2p and vice versa the domination of crypto is keep on increasing. In terms of investment people knew only Crude, stocks, bonds, stock market, gold etc...but this platform made a way ahead to make money harder and smarter, I know most of the government's are not favoring this but in upcoming years you will see the green signal for crypto as well. 

Well if you listen to them and believed all the negative thoughts about crypto, then for your you have missed a lot of things. But good for those who maintain their believed in crypto just like the rest of us, as it is a game changer. And for sure, majority has made a lot of money already thru their trading and investing.

I personally feel it has changed most of us in our life, In terms of technology and development we every one know the way we are heading towards web3, metaverse, defi are remarkable. All credits to development of bitcoin Smiley I am earning this from as well, I never thought I would make much descent money in this sector. share your success as well thankyou Cheesy

It has evolved a lot, specially I think the golden years of bitcoin or crypto was that 2017 all time high. Because for me that is the year wherein we really see a lot of projects booming and then people started to realized what crypto can bring. And so there is ICO->IEO and others and now P2E, Web3 and Metaverse. So it will continue to grow specially that we are approaching the bull run next year.
1150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 5 Bitcoins to never gamble again. Will you take it? on: July 28, 2023, 01:25:46 AM
No matter how skillful or strategic in gambling you can't make up to 5btc in the space of 1 year through gambling, in the world of gambling there are very few punters that would say they've come close to getting such amount in the space of one year, so I wonder why someone would decide to reject such an offer, if I'm given such an offer I'll quit gambling and invest my money in other valuable commodities like investing in Gold, petroleum or even investing real estate and if possible owning my own gambling platform.

That's true mate, for how long will it take a gambler to have the opportunity of making upto that amount of money, gambling is what we do without having certainty on either winning or not whereby when you're given the opportunity to rece 5btc just like that, no body in his right thinking mind will not accept the offer of bitcoin over gambling since gambling is all about making money and we've already received the offer of having money without the stress and risk to gamble.
Shit never mind earning 5 btc in a single year, most of us here truth be told no matter how high roller would never get as much as 5 bitcoin in their whole gambling lifetimes. And that's with all factors included so if we're being realistic here the amount of things you can do with 5 btc beyond just the simple monetary gain is already astounding especially if you're living in third world countries where price of stuff isn't that high compared to world standards. I get why some people may choose gambling over money, it's their choice and I respect that but it doesn't mean I agree with it or that I "understand" why they chose so lol. The point of some for gambling is to chase money anyway, and then the moment they were given a choice between money and gambling they chose gambling, what a bunch of losers.

It's different for every person I guess, 5 bitcoins though is not enough to make a good living in our country at the current price. Yeah maybe you can buy a nice house or nice car. But the question is, how you can sustain that life if you empty that money and buy those things?

And maybe that's why majority of us will not accept it but rather just have a normal life and then enjoy gambling in the side. Maybe they could earn 5 bitcoin later, the most important thing is to just enjoy life. Because if you got that 5 bitcoin and then stop gambling totally, if might affect your mind.
1151  Other / Off-topic / Re: Missing Crypto Millionaire Found Dismembered in a Suitcase on: July 28, 2023, 01:00:38 AM
Probably some of his enemies in the industry or some that he made enemies with in the background. It could also be possible that since he's a dime-a-dozen cryptocurrency influencer, they tried kidnapping him for ransom and then killed him when they found no use for him anymore. It was also said that he is involved in some shady dealings and questionable businesses with some people that might've turned to him owing a large debt to some people like what @Stalker22 has said.

It's not uncommon for these crypto-influencers who used their fame for profit to get what was coming to them, Pleterski just got sacked and kidnapped for $3 million by some of the people who he screwed over with his "crypto" scams and the funny thing is, despite him being the root cause of all this the kidnappers were the ones that got jailed and he's able to run free again without major consequences from his actions, well besides a badly beaten face and a scarring event that should leave him humbled for the rest of his life.

For sure he has a lot of enemies because he has fore warn about this impending death as per the news. And the police found a lot of threatening text message in his phone from people that want to hurt him.

Maybe he scam people out of their money in crypto or in fiat, I guess this is another lessons for those crypto influencers. You just don't know the extend of what you are doing. If you are blatantly scamming, then sooner or later karma will come in your way.
1152  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: que regarding BTC on: July 27, 2023, 09:18:04 PM
We have a thread that is dedicated to Lightning Network by @Pmalek.

It's a huge list, here it is, All Lightning Network Threads In One Place. Hopefully, you won't be overwhelm by the information as there are lot in just one thread. You can browse it and maybe you can find your answer. Best of luck.
1153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto experienced bloodshed on: July 27, 2023, 01:25:22 PM
I agree. it is like natural selection who the strong and resistant will survive these trying times. True, Crypto is experiencing a bloodbath where the decline in trading volume is also a concern for investors about the liquidity of crypto assets and one more thing if we pay attention to how the role of the media works here with a series of bad news that has emerged that has shaken new investors.

For matters of bad news that can still affect prices in the market or affect the attention of some investors, it is still quite a common thing to happen, but everyone must also see the effect of good news on both aspects because good news is not only able to push prices up, but also able to encourage interest from new investors to enter the market.

I would say that it's common practice for some sector to spread negative news about crypto, we don't know what there intentions though. Maybe they are being paid by some groups to spread this, or they simply don't like crypto and wanted to destroy it at at all cost.

Because between the good news and bad news at this point I see that they are almost balanced and have an effect on each other for price and interest in everyone which can be the reason for prices surviving in difficult times, although I don't think that the current time is a difficult time because every investor can still invest according to their own capabilities at cryptocurrency asset prices which are still very affordable in my opinion.

It is is FUD, I think crypto enthusiast knows how to weight the issues and might not be affected. The thing though is that there are newbies that are simply being affected by it. So if we could only balance it by negating those not so true news then it's going to be our responsibility. Btu as we stay longer in this market, the more we learn that it's just simply FUD and the effect is just short term. And that we shouldn't panic and wait till everything settles down.
1154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023 on: July 27, 2023, 12:52:58 PM
If Nonito wins the championship his next target is to be the undisputed Bantamweight Champion, based on the interview with Tai Lopez Donaire will go on until he becomes the next champion because this is the only thing missing in his career, to become the undisputed champion, so if he wins here he will push for a unification of the title I hope he can still do it at his age, we'll see if father time is still not diminished his power.


https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=648002447275450

Hopefully he can accomplished it if he wins here, but one of the stumbling block is that Moloney is with Top Rank and remember that he used to be the number 1 rank fighter in wBC, so it should be Donaire vs Moloney. But Moloney and his camp jump ship to WBO because maybe he doesn't want to fight Inoue that time, or Top Rank's Bob Arum refusing to work with Probellum (Donaire's previous promotional management). So we will see if Donaire camp's didn't take that personally and decline a fight with Moloney because of that reason.
1155  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Searching for articles or talks of long-term (10+ years) Bitcoin hodlers on: July 27, 2023, 12:35:25 PM
I would like to read or listen to long-term Bitcoin hodlers. Can I ask you to recommend them and their content, please?

If there is something that I would recommend to you as a beginner, specially those long term holders or early adopters, here is the thread, Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion. Just remember though that they have their own "culture" inside that thread.  Wink

One classic long term holder is Elwar. Who is only the pioneer of Seasteading way back in 2017. However, he encountered a lot of problems with the government of Thailand.
1156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 on: July 26, 2023, 03:25:07 AM
And I also think that Fulton might stay and last for 12 rounds. But as you guys says, Inoue is very quick and his jab is sharper than ever. Congrats to those who had Fulton by KO here, and it's the obvious choice. But I just thought that Fulton being the slick and technical fighter he is, could last the against the Monster.

Well, not after the start officially started. As we all can see, Fulton was very careful as he knew how dangerous hid opponent is, but clearly he got dominated. Every round Inoue is winning, not even a single round I can give to Fulton, it's like he was not fighting to win there, but he was fighting to survive the 12 round and survive the onslaught that the Inoue unleashes.
To be in this  higher division and completely dominate the toughest is such an impressive act. Still, I give respect to Fulton for not ducking a future HOF in boxing. He really wants this fight and now he just proved himself how strong and skilled Inoue is.
Overall in this match, Inoue is much faster, powerful, and more intelligent than Fulton.
When it comes to technicality then Inoue is really good on this one and also with power which it is really that true that Fulton got dominated on every round but the good thing to look at is that he do really facing
Inoue unlike on vs Butler which it is really a pretty boring fight and i could say that this is really that way better against Fulton despite they had thrown out some issues earlier but good thing that the fight
did push through. After being knocked out, you do really see that Fulton is really that still that having that ego. Now that he had been able to taste out on how good Inoue is, then for sure
he would really be telling to himself that he is really fighting a monster. We cant really deny even us viewers or fans on whose really that seeing his power and speed which we can
say that he could be able to step up on another division i would say.

Inoue showed to his boxing fans that he can dominate the fight even if he is the challenger here.
So don't know if Fulton's camp will ask for a re-match on this because haven't read from any boxing articles that they are looking for one.
Now, he will be looking for a bigger fight next. Either he will go up to another division or find a worthwhile opponent on this division.
He is still young so he may be looking to conquer other weight classes here. But in any case, there are 4 names that boxing analysts come up with
potential opponents for Inoue - (1) Marlon Tapales of PH, (2) Luis Nery of Mexico, (3) Leigh Wood of UK and (4) Robeisy Ramirez of Cuba.

Aiming for another belts then aiming
IBF: Marlon Tapales
WBA: Marlon Tapales


But if he would be deciding on going to another weight division.Then he would be needing to fight up these fellas;
Featherweight (126 lbs.)

WBO: Robeisy Ramirez
IBF: Luis Alberto Lopez
WBA: Leigh Wood
WBC: Rey Vargas*

This is for Featherweight (126 lbs.)

But i do have a feeling that he might be still that trying out to unify all the belts on Junior featherweight
which he might be doing that before going one step once again.

It's going to be a very different league for him if he decided to go to 126 lbs after unifying the belts and beating Marlon Tapales next. So he will be one of the best in this generation if he can climb up in 126 lbs and face lets say Ramirez who also won against a Japanese to defend his belt.

Arum already might set this up next year as if I'm not mistaken Ramirez is with Top Rank. He will be the next Manny or at least get to 5-6 belt weight class. 130 lbs might be too much for him though, as the like of let's say Oscar Valdez and Navarette might be too big for Inoue. But let's see, he is in his prime so he might think that he is really invincible and climb that ladder very quick like Pacquiao.
1157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Could XRP win in SEC case be a start for next bull run? on: July 26, 2023, 03:01:15 AM
After quite a while, this can be considered as some good news, and we all observed that several altcoins moved along with XRP. So, in my opinion, the market has definitely received a favorable boost. We are all aware that XRP has not been rising for a long time, but as soon as the news came, it seemed as if a new life was infused into XRP, like a rebirth. However, the bull run has not commenced yet, and we are all positively anticipating further positive movements in the market soon.

XRP won at the right time because we're about entering the bull market and XRP can be among some of the top gainers for the bull market and since they're not having the SEC sueing them, the price of their tokens can increase with others instead of staying down as it did the last time. XRP would had been worth more that $10 if the lawsuit wasn't active against them.
XRP is an old project therefore they're not like the new projects that might scam their investors. XRP would be around for a very long time therefore if you're looking for a long term investment then you can decide to invest in XRP and hold your tokens. The market received a boost because of XRP winning their lawsuit but their victory isn't enough to turn the market from bear to bull.
XRP needs to use this positive momentum to get the price to atleast $1 so in the bull market the price will be targeting $10 and that'll make investors to get 1000% increase and make a nice profits. I don't think XRP will keep increasing while the rest if the market is experiencing a correction because of Bitcoin price falling below $30,000 but the market will get support soon.
With the SEC lawsuit behind, its indeed true that XRP's price isnt shackled as it was previously. And oh boy! What a sigh of relief it is. XRP's potential to cross the $10 mark, had the lawsuit not been active, is something that we've been robbed of seeing. However, its not just about being an old project or escaping the lawsuit, XRP needs to step up its game to capture and leverage the post-lawsuit enthusiasm. You mentioned the $1 target - quite achievable indeed; the $10 target though - now that's a delicious proposition.

Do not be so quick to pop the champagne yet. The Bitcoin price dip, and the general market correction, may bring some temporary chills. But rest assured, XRP's victory has given the market a much-needed morale boost.

There is no bull run to start after Ripple Labs won their case. It was just temporary surge in price, it's the hype I guess. But after a few days, the prices of altcoin market plummeted already.

So I guess who have taken the advantage of that news could have sold their XRP to make a profit. So we need to officially wait for the next bull run in 2024 because that is where the real action is. Just imagine though if this news happens in the bull run, the price could really go up on a parabolic rise. But it's not over, we can still accumulate as much as we can and prepare for the eventual new ATH whether its XRP or other top altcoins.
1158  Economy / Economics / Re: The gloomy light called subsidy. on: July 26, 2023, 02:30:59 AM
You are lucky that you have a government that subsides your petrol. But then again it's a privilege that can be taken anytime and so that's what they do? For me? I will strive hard as I know I don't have the petrol subsidy already.

Or maybe you can tighten your belt, save money or get other means of transportation so that you won't used your car like everyday. It's could have a pros/cons of the removal, but I guess your government is trying to save money as well and uses to other projects or top up other subsidies that is very important to the population.
1159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title on: July 26, 2023, 02:15:32 AM
Not belittling the Filipino here, but I think Tapales will have a slim chance against the monster Inoue. We have seen how he just eruption on American Fulton, the 2 belt champion as well and just didn't give him the breathing room and I don't think that Fulton win a round against Inoue and then the knockout power of Inoue will be too much for anyone.

So not sure what strategy the camp of Tapales will do against Inoue. Naoya is just reaching his prime right now and it's hard to stop a fighter like that who is very complete in my opinion.
1160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Investors Confidence in Bitcoin💪 on: July 25, 2023, 09:34:22 AM
A true Bitcoin investor, does not give up Bitcoin just because of the words of others. Because they know about the success of Bitcoin. And they know that a long-term investment in Bitcoin will never disappoint them. Because long-term investment in Bitcoin guarantees extra profits. This greatly increases the confidence level of a Bitcoin investor. And they never want to give up Bitcoin.

Of course, and that's what we love about bitcoin, it might be very hard to see the price going down in a bear market, but once the bull run arrives, we are going to be happy as we can see our portfolio growing and maybe many of us here will become millionaires in 2024-2025.

But the hard part is that how we accumulate, it is during the bear market when the price goes on a spiral. And so we need to take advantage of that kind of down turn and don't be afraid of it. Instead we should take it as a opportunity to save and accumulate more bitcoin and then wait for the next bull run to occur.
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