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1141  Economy / Economics / Re: Is taking a loan/debt addicted ? on: February 07, 2023, 09:38:41 AM
today's lifestyle is increasingly consumptive so that it makes anyone want to follow trends that are currently popular, when income does not match expectations, the easiest thing is to get into debt, especially now that online debt offers with easy terms make many trapped in debt, it's natural that many say that taking loan is addicted.
Aside from addictions, those who take online loans or get into debt to show their lifestyle in public are the ones who will fail in their future. Because they don't use online loan capital to make their business go forward or open a business to rotate capital so they can make a profit even though they have to keep paying off the loan in installments.

I think it's very unnatural to do because going into debt just to improve your lifestyle is a way to kill yourself before you die. This is something that is not worth emulating because it is very self-defeating and also very unreasonable in my opinion. In addition, their mistake is not being able to stop themselves from following the trend of an excessive lifestyle and being grateful for the income they get so they don't go into debt.
1142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lost Bitcoin? on: February 07, 2023, 08:58:39 AM
If we want crypto currency to be a currency we have to keep spending right? But at the same time it's something worth keeping too since I do the same with my fiat in bank for more than 2years without touching it. Is it possible to say that Bitcoin in every wallets for the past 2years without moving are considered lost due to death or lost recovery keys? It's pretty hard to believe that anyone won't come back for their Bitcoin after 2years with no activities on the wallet.
Bitcoin will not die in the wallet even if the wallet cannot be opened again due to loss of the private key. And the movement will remain the same as you see the Bitcoin in the wallet that you can still open now. For cryptocurrencies that you want to use as currency, of course you have to see if the cryptocurrencies have started to be accepted in your country and also by any sellers in your area. Because you also can't spend it alone unless you enter the market like other traders.
1143  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Masa Depan dan Harga shibaInu on: February 07, 2023, 02:00:14 AM
wah, saya baru tahu ni kalo sudah keluar game shiba eternity, tapi kalo itu bukan game Play to earn atau kartunya juga bukan NFT, apa untungnya untuk pengguna? saya bakal coba deh untuk mendowload sebentar ni game, kalo memang jelek seperti yang agan bilang, langsung saya bakal hapus

Saya rasa apa yang disampaikan oleh om @masulum dan om @blue Snow sudah sangat akurat dan tidak perlu diragukan lagi, terutama tentang masalah game Shiba Eternity yang tidak memiliki fitur Earning seperti P2E. Karena mereka juga tidak mungkin akan menyampaikan hal tersebut disini apabila belum melihat dan merasakannya sendiri.

Tetapi jika om @Tumanggor ingin mencobanya game Shiba Eternity sendiri, om bisa menuju kesini untuk mendownload gamenya play.google.com/store/apps/ dan untuk cara bermainnya sendiri juga ada di jelaskan disini blockchainmedia.id/ serta penjelasan yang lebih lengkapnya juga ada disini coinvestasi.com/. Selamat mencoba ya om, semoga berhasil. Dan jangan lupa bahwa game yang tidak membayar serta tidak memiliki nilai guna untuk hal yang lain adalah game pembunuh waktu kita yang sangat berharga ini om, jadi mending jangan terlalu lalai dengan game semacam itu deh om.
1144  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Jejak Pendapatan mengenai Penambahan Sub Board Lokal Indonesia on: February 07, 2023, 01:42:31 AM
Saya setuju dengan saran yang telah diberikan oleh @ETFbitcoin, @abhiseshakana dan @Husna QA untuk hal ini om, tetapi kalau seandainya hal ini tidak terjadi dalam waktu dekat. Menurut saya juga tidak masalah sih om, karena apa yang disampaikan oleh @ShowOff juga ada benarnya juga dimana para user SFI masih bisa aktif walaupun ada faktor pendukung lainnya juga. Tetapi jika hal ini terlaksana juga akan sangat baik karena setiap topik yang dibuat akan mengarah pada sub board yang sesuai dengan yang akan dibahas didalamnya meskipun pada saat ini setiap pembahasan yang berada dalam setiap sub board juga masih sangat sesuai dengan topik dasarnya.



Sedikit saran untuk om @OP "Sepertinya penulisan judul harus direvisi sedikit karena kalau JEJAK PENDAPATAN itu akan berbeda maksudnya dengan JEJAK PENDAPAT". Mohon maaf apabila saran saya sedikit to the point karena hal ini menyangkut tentang pemahaman bagi setiap orang yang melihat topik
1145  Economy / Economics / Re: How Bitcoin mooved from grass to grace. on: February 07, 2023, 12:06:10 AM

I think the lunched of Bitcoin was to help improve the little knolodge of most people who are willing to invest in crypto currency .
Investing your little money on Bitcoin isn't a RISK, ask me how.
Because it's well organized. Remember when the price of Bitcoin was very low and letter on the price of Bitcoin shocked the world when got to $19,000 I think so. The mistake I made at that time was that I didn't have lot of money to buy Bitcoin if not that I think by now I will be having about 15 BTC.
The way am seeing things, from now till about 5 years time Bitcoin will be about $30k.
I see you've only been in this forum for five days. OK, I guess that's not a problem to look at, but if you talk about Bitcoin more. I don't think everyone needs to ask you more because maybe they already saw a price of $19K at the end of 2017 and experienced a huge increase in the final quarter of 2021. Actually this is enough to prove that Bitcoin is still very good to own and also kept for the long term because the target is of course not just for the price of $30K, but more than that and even three times the price of $30K if the timeframe is five years as you say.


1146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are you interested in bitcoin? on: February 06, 2023, 11:51:08 PM
Because I'm still a beginner here, and still don't know much about bitcoin. So, I want to learn more about bitcoin from you guys. I want to ask you guys. Why are you interested in investing in bitcoin?
Why am I interested in investing in bitcoin?
The answer is because Bitcoin always has the potential to be the best among thousands of other coins, making Bitcoin the first asset that everyone should see and also be considered by many other people now. Besides that, Bitcoin is also still the king of the many coins that have been born now, so anyone won't be wrong if they want to consider investing, especially if the investment is for the long term.

And if you want to know more about Bitcoin, you can read from several well-known and trusted sources to have a deeper understanding. I think this will really help you understand more deeply what Bitcoin is and why so many people are already interested in Bitcoin, so please visit some of the resources that I share.
1147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Enough? on: February 06, 2023, 01:04:35 PM
Is 0.1BTC a lot and enough for long-term holding? I calculate my extra income that I use for DCA and I feel like this is the range of BTC I will end up owning on the long run, anything more will put me in a very tight position or maybe I need to upgrade my side job to earn more for investing into Bitcoin. What do you feel about this? 0.1 BTC good enough or not.

0.1 BTC is not much, but you can hold them even less than 0.1 you also can hold. Bitcoin investment is an investment according to each person's ability, if you do not have too much money, then invest little by little and accumulate them when possible. There is no rule about holding more or fewer bitcoins. Imagine that when bitcoin is worth 300k$-500k$/1 bitcoin, then 0.1BTC is also a huge amount.
For me 0.1 BTC is a huge amount right now even though the price of Bitcoin isn't very high right now. And it's true as you said that is a pretty decent amount to make an investment in the long term because that amount will also get bigger when the Bitcoin price hits the next ATH. This is the great thing about Bitcoin because it can be bought by everyone with such limited abilities and in this year I will also try to earn 0.1 BTC in order to be able to invest in Bitcoin in the long term
1148  Economy / Economics / Re: Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin? on: February 05, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
It depends on interest rates in your country. I think that if your rates is lower than 3-4%, it not so bad idea. If you have enough money to freely pay that loan
Actually borrowing money for business or business purposes is not prohibited. But it would not be a problem whatsoever as long as someone is able to pay it on time. But if you remember about the risk of loss or not running the business smoothly, it will certainly make it difficult for you to pay for the loan. Especially if he borrows to use it into the crypto space the risk is always higher because any profit is always uncertain here.
1149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin high prediction 2023? on: February 05, 2023, 03:01:31 PM
I read an article that said that by the end of this year, bitcoin can reach 100k$ each because there are many people in our time who are interested in investing in bitcoin as a long-term investment.
The interest of many people in Bitcoin investment will certainly make the price increase in Bitcoin more obvious in the future, but this will also be affected by the fact that world conditions must be getting better all the time so that there is a little incentive for everyone to invest in Bitcoin. Because if world conditions continue to be chaotic with various things that can affect economic development to be hampered, of course there will be another decline in Bitcoin in the future.

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  I just forgot where I read this, but of course, it's still his speculation, so there's nothing to lose if we believe it, and it's possible for this to happen with bitcoin.
Even if it's just speculation, you should know where you read this so that what you say can be proven more clearly by many people. This kind of speculation is fine, but for $100K in Bitcoin I don't think it will be reached by the end of this year because that is a very big target and is included in the new ATH for Bitcoin.
1150  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [LOG] List Rank Up Member Indonesia (Member - Legendary) on: February 05, 2023, 01:48:58 PM
Selamat kepada om @aylabadia05 yang telah berhasil rank up dari Senior Member ke Hero Member. Perjuangan om untuk sampai ke rank tersebut sungguh luar biasa dan saya sangat menganguminya serta hal itu juga bisa menjadi motivasi yang baik untuk saya pribadi karena usaha yang begitu keras tentu akan selalu dibarengi dengan hasil yang lebih jelas. Sekali lagi selamat ya om sudah berada di Hero Member dan jangan lupa untuk terus memberikan kontribusi yang baik kedalam forum serta kedalam lokal Indonesia juga.
1151  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A good way to start this journey? on: February 05, 2023, 01:37:12 PM
Does it feels right to find projects base on the numbers of good partnerships they had? Do partnerships means the project can easily become successful?
Basically the success or failure of a new project really depends on the efforts of the creator of the project itself. Because partnerships that are willing to work with the project, of course, there are reciprocal rewards that they can get, so even a large number of partnerships cannot guarantee that a project can succeed so easily.

Because the project team itself needs to carry out its own roadmap according to the time target they set in order to be successful, because without any effort from their own side, of course, success will be difficult for them to get even though they can have a little help from their partners. Many good partners are certainly better for new projects because projects can be recognized by many people more quickly, but the project still has to find more investors who want to get involved in it for the smooth running of them in terms of launching the product they want.
1152  Economy / Economics / Re: How to thrive with low income in a humble area - part 2 on: February 05, 2023, 01:27:44 PM
I believe I understand what you are saying; the best way to overcome hardship and poverty is, in fact, to have a successful money-making approach. Being resourceful will enable you to develop a better plan for using the resources you already have to make money.
In short, it is working with the skills or abilities that we already have at this time. I think that is one of several other ideas in terms of overcoming poverty, because without working according to what we have mastered, of course there will be no money to be made. But when a person starts working seriously and focusing on his goals, there will certainly be money that he can earn for himself. I think so in essence.

That's why it's important to learn new things because it can add to your knowledge and skills,
to make money everyone has their own way and that's a good thing,
the better the plan we have, the more likely we are to make money.
Planning can be drawn up when a person has what he is going to do and already has the basic knowledge to make new plans run smoothly in order to make more money. Because without basic knowledge, of course there is no plan that he can arrange for his own business or work.
1153  Economy / Economics / Re: When your passive income equals or slightly above your salary, what would you do on: February 02, 2023, 11:58:52 PM
Resigning when he hasn't known the future of his passive work doesn't work well by me. Studying the two works for sometime for future advancement is really better than just making conclusion base on recent profit made.
Indeed, it would not be very good to make a hasty decision when you get a new advantage. Because in any case, every more income and profit will always be better for everyone's life, so there is no need to immediately make the decision to resign at a job when there is a new job he got at the current time. Because old jobs that can still produce can also really help him to increase more in terms of getting profits.
1154  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you think will happen if... on: February 02, 2023, 11:51:33 PM
What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.
It would be very possible for cryptocurrencies to develop slowly and even stagnate without significant price growth if institutional investors stay away from the crypto space and stop investing in crypto. A very simple example for this is when there are many people who used to use a product for certain needs in their lives, then the price of the product will obviously experience an increase in price and better development.

But when a product starts to be abandoned by many of its users at a certain time, the development of the product and its price will not experience any more significant changes and even the product will no longer be produced because the demand for it has begun to decrease. Likewise with crypto when users such as investors start to distance themselves from crypto investments, there will not be many cryptos that get better development. So in my opinion, I hope you are enlightened.
1155  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happens next if Bitcoin drops to zero? on: February 02, 2023, 11:43:20 PM
Technological developments can happen quickly, what we value at the moment is very valuable can become worthless in a short time, let's open our minds and always be realistic, don't be too fanatical that will make us very sorry, always monitor developments so that we can survive when bad things happen.
Monitoring what do you mean it's mate ? because if you tell everyone to monitor Bitcoin from now on, it's actually very logical because now Bitcoin is making very good improvements. But if you order to monitor technological developments, this is actually not wrong either. But this is a very different thing to watch if we are connoisseurs of any technology and can only be spectators to see the developments made by other people.
1156  Economy / Speculation / Re: YTD Bitcoin Chart Vibes on: February 02, 2023, 11:37:18 PM

We are all going to be hosting our own parties soon sparing no expense because Bitcoin is going parabolic!

$1,500,000 per BTC soon. Its coming, by 2030? When maybe 2045? Who knows!? But I believe that it is coming!!
Sounds like it's too far to wait mate, as there is plenty of time and good things to be enjoyed by everyone before then. Besides, I personally prefer to see a four-year cycle in Bitcoin than a seven-year or more than once-fifteen year cycle, that's really long for me to wait and see the magic you say. I have absolutely no doubts about Bitcoin for this, but an increase in the price in the market for Bitcoin will always be colored by corrections and each correction always takes more time to rise again.
1157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: February 01, 2023, 02:25:18 PM
It seems that Manchester United's new recruit is quite promising and can be a temporary replacement for Eriksen who has to be absent for 3 months due to injury. Even though Sabitser's loan status from Bayern Munich will last until the end of the season, this is very helpful for the Red Devils' midfield against Barcelona later. I don't think the match will go easy for both teams considering that the meetings between the two teams are always intense and have a hot atmosphere on the pitch.
It is because of the intensity and the hot atmosphere that will be born on the pitch that causes fans and spectators to wait for their matches this season. This is a match that will be very interesting in the Europa League this season so the curiosity in the minds of many people now will surely arise and make the audience moved to see it, especially considering that the two teams are in very good condition at the moment.
1158  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think Bitcoin will lead the world's current market on: February 01, 2023, 02:17:38 PM
Even though bitcoin is very well known in the crypto world, not all countries accept it. Some countries accept it and some don't. And it may not be easy for bitcoin to become the top currency. Because the US dollar remains the most important money in the world.
Now Bitcoin is starting to be adjusted by several countries for important matters such as payments as has been implemented by the Saudi Arabian state at this time where they have started to make leeway rules on cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin for international trade matters. So Saudi Arabia has also decided to accept Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies as additional payment options besides US dollars and their own country's currency.

After 48 years of ties solely with the US dollar, Saudi Arabia's Minister of Finance, Mohammed Al-Jadaan, said the kingdom was open to trading in currencies other than the US dollar. The remarks follow Chinese President Xi Jinping urging Gulf monarchs to accept yuan for oil, and Riyadh officials saying in March the country would consider accepting Chinese currency. Saudi Arabia's Move Away from the US Dollar Signals a Changing Economic Landscape. Source: news.bitcoin.com

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a West Asian Islamic state with an area of over two million square kilometers and a population of 33 million people. Saudi Arabia has a petroleum-based command economy that generates one of the largest GDPs in the world, consistently being in the top 20 countries in terms of GDP. Legal bitcoin is Saudi Arabia. One can exchange and buy Bitcoins in Saudi Arabia.

However, Saudi Arabia's financial authorities issued a warning about Bitcoin trading and offered no protection for cryptocurrency-related losses. There are ATMs for Bitcoins in Saudi Arabia and maintain Bitcoin exchanges. The country's government is currently liberalizing its political and economic structure, making Saudi Arabia more hospitable to foreign investment and emerging startups. Source: cointelegraph.com
1159  Economy / Speculation / Re: what now ? on: February 01, 2023, 01:56:23 PM
Bitcoin is very bullish at the moment ,
what you guys think , it's a short term rally or beginning of bull market
or I missed the bottom
i am something less active so ,
Want some updates

You entered this forum on December 30, 2022, which means it was the end of last year where Bitcoin is currently still at a low price, although not the lowest, but still in the low category because it is still around $16K. If you had seen the price of Bitcoin on the market at that time, of course you would know that and also be able to conclude at the current price where Bitcoin is already in the $23K range. But it's still not too late for you if you have the desire to buy it from now because Bitcoin has just had a very small price correction.
1160  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: are all beginners like that? on: February 01, 2023, 09:18:31 AM
in this modern era which is growing rapidly day by day, many things have been created and developed, from mobile phones, internet, vehicles, medical devices and even in terms of finance/means of payment.
an example of one of them is the creation of bitcoin and crypto, which has become a very extraordinary phenomenon in the last ten years.
now many people are flocking to invest in bitcoin and crypto, from the many investors who have sprung up, many motives have sprung up too,

Of course, no one knows what motivates someone to jump in and participate in investing in crypto, everyone has a reason, and everyone has the original intention in their heart.
but there are some people who do research on the intentions of novice investors in investing in crypto

The hearts and intentions of people flocking to invest in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency are due to profit motivation and also a good future for Bitcoin and the development of cryptocurrency through visible historical evidence. Even though it is always difficult for everyone to know the good or bad of the future in all things, so that is the main foundation of investors and people who set their intention to enter the crypto space to make investments and love Bitcoin as an already very popular asset
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