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11441  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 27, 2016, 07:15:12 AM
The main point here is that Bitcoin transaction malleability has never been fixed. ONLY segwit malleability has been fixed, and segwit doesn't even exist yet. . .
"Segwit doesn't even exist yet"? AFAIK Segwit has existed already back in 2015 within Liquid, but it was only after Luke-jr found a way to implement it with a soft fork that the work started on it for the main implementation. Over the course of time, there was segnet and now it is also on the testnet. The people that have been testing there have mined several 'bigger blocks'. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

We need to debate this stuff with clear minds and calm manner, otherwise it will be only a circus. So be more calm guys!
Take a look at part 8 or my thread titled "How I would take down Bitcoin" and you should clearly see what's going on.
11442  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 10:20:40 PM
lol I'm talking about one line of code to help fulfill demand by users for faster confirmation times. If everyone agrees that blocks should be larger, then please tell me why changing one line of code is a bad idea.
If you think that it is 'one line of code' then you really don't know what you're talking about. Take a look at how many lines of code Gavin's BIP has and then come here. A 2 MB block size limit is not safe on its own. If it were, then Classic would have not added those limitations.
11443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 10:00:47 PM
Does anyone care to argue ANY valid point's regarding why a blocksize increase is a bad idea?
Quick and short list:
  • Network has practically no hard fork experience.
  • 2 MB block size limit is unsafe due to quadratic validation time - Gavin's BIP for Classic adds additional limitations to prevent this.
  • Does not improve scalability at all.
  • Does not come with any benefits besides increased TPS either.

This has all been discussed over and over in various places. This is why Segwit is the next step, it will make validation time linear among other things. I can't say whether and when a potential block size increase is going to come after Segwit.
11444  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 09:52:18 PM
No, Segwit has not been implemented.
Apparently you don't know the difference between the words 'implementation' and 'activation'. If you want to try out Segwit you can do so on testnet.

It has been merged, yes but the answer to my original question is that no one actually knows when it will be active. This is the real problem.
That's not a problem at all. You will be aware of the activation date once everything is ready and the appropriate version has been released. These things need not be rushed.
11445  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 09:35:42 PM
I'm also on board with segwit but please remind me, when will segwit be implemented?
Segwit is implemented and has been recently merged for the upcoming version. Check the Github page and the commits. However, the exact details of activation have not been set yet.
11446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 08:48:42 PM
Uh, you mean the everyday typical RAM amount of 80GB? Right
Totally typical, like those 1 GBPS download/upload connections. Did you not know that? I have no idea why we don't have 1 GB blocks right now, it is easy to download with those speeds Huh  Roll Eyes

Everyday typical users should just use SPV clients. If you're paranoid then buy a HDD or don't use bitcoin.
So if you want to verify that the incoming information is indeed correct you are paranoid and should either spend more money or not use Bitcoin at all? This logic is horrible. Bitcoin is about individual sovereignty and as such it should not be too difficult for one to use a 'full' wallet if they chose to. I have personally never use anything other (aside from testing SPV a few times).

I thought it was 80 GB of RAM I needed to buy? lol
dbcache=80000, a 16 Core CPU and everything will be swift. All you need to do is combine those typical things with the typical 1 GBPS download connection!
11447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin less evil than PayPal? on: June 26, 2016, 06:49:33 PM
You can't consider Bitcoin in this case to be evil. With Paypal you have people deciding whether your funds will be recovered, frozen or whatever. With Bitcoin there is nobody that has the authority to make these decisions. You are the own safe keeper of your money. If you make mistakes, you will have to deal with them.

With Bitcoin I am my own Bank.
Exactly and nobody can make any decisions about your money (as long as you don't use third party wallets).

Bitcoin on the other hand costs next to nothing but no one really likes using, i think the learning curve for bitcoin is harder than for paypal if your not computer literate.
"No one really likes using"? This is a false generalization.
11448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fee for 420,000th block on: June 26, 2016, 05:47:24 PM
I'm pretty sure many are fighting over that slot of transaction recorded at the very last block before halving or the first block after the halving. Fees aren't the only factor that you need to consider, there is also the size, the age of the coins, etc. I don't really know them all.
The transaction size is considered when we are talking about a fee in the satoshis/byte range. I'm pretty sure that in this case the fees are going to have the main role.

Well a bigger block size should allow for more transactions per block, so if anything the fees should go down and a lot more of the low-fee transactions should be confirmed.
I have no idea why you would bring this up right now. There is no chance for that block to be bigger than the limit which is 1 MB. A decent factor is played by the size of the transactions that are going to included in that block (e.g. it could be <1000 TX's or it could be >2000), but there is no way of telling which one is going to happen.

Now I'm not an expert when it comes to how high fees should be for different block sizes, and I'm not very knowledgeable as to the current fees that allow for quick transactions, but it seems more like smaller fees due to a larger volume being able to be processed would be better.
You're stating that 'smaller fees are being processed because of larger volume'? This doesn't even make sense.
11449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can you help me guys i still didn't receive loan few days ago.. on: June 26, 2016, 05:10:29 PM
One of the address there is not mine i dont have an address i already check it in my wallet addresses filtered looks like he send it in 2 address that wasn't mine..
Only this one is mine.. 1VoqHT8v6NEjGKv2RMw51VKTYAJKBdk4u
No, everything should be fine. He has send the coins to your address, and the other would be his own change address.

But i never touch it in my coinbase wallet its still  pending i dont what is the problem but i think this is wallet problem accordking to my address i send something 90k sat from someone that i didnt do it before..

Coinbase still not responding..
Again, there's not much that you can do besides wait for Coinbase. This is why I tell people constantly to avoid using online wallets and to download a desktop one. I've heard cases where contacting Coinbase took a very long time.
11450  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fee for 420,000th block on: June 26, 2016, 01:45:31 PM
There already was a thread about it that I remember recently. People are 'too-hyped' about the halving and need to come back down to Earth. Whether or not your TX gets included within that block is no big deal. As far as fees are concerned, it is practically impossible to tell you what the exact 'satoshis/byte' range for that block. We might be able to provide a 'decent' estimate when we are only a few blocks away from 420 000.

pay as big a fee as you can afford
How about you don't waste your money on something like this? That's the preferred strategy.

Quote from: FrankyD1nce
Grass is green, the sky is blue.
The sky is blue?
11451  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns on: June 26, 2016, 12:19:39 PM
Both are already failures - if you're realistic about it. I don't see any connection between the bad ideas of Gregory Maxwell and a few others, and Bitcoin as a system. Sidechains are one of the dumbest ideas I've seen in Bitcoin ever. The ideas was proposed 3 years ago, whitepaper written 2 years ago, and there is no functioning system and I predict there will never be.
No. Sidechains are a good idea and you're spewing out false information. If there "is no functioning system", then what is Liquid? What is Rootstock supposed to be?

Lightning is quite interesting, but will be a failure, too. I will be on my beliefs by selling Bitcoin for a better alternative when it arrives. There are deep economic reasons for these ideas to be bad, but you can't expect from core developers any understanding of it. They don't even see the incentive and scaling problems as they are. "Scaling Bitcoin" is a misnomer to begin with.
It seems that everything that comes from the people which are trying to improve Bitcoin is a failure, according to the people who have no skills and/or no contributions to the ecosystem. Roll Eyes

No. Bitcoin dev is centralised around a small group of people, for good and bad reasons. Nobody can add just add any patch to the system. Forking blockstream/core is basically starting a new chain and project.
No, it is not centralized. If it were centralized, the main person could push any changes that they've wanted. Additionally "blockstream/core" is an very ignorant statement. Are you not capable of comprehending the difference between those two?
11452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can you help me guys i still didn't receive loan few days ago.. on: June 26, 2016, 09:23:19 AM
Hi guys i just want to ask it again if this is not a double spend or fake sending.. so that i can start scam accusation if the lender is trying to pool me.. thanks
I assume that one of these two is your address:


In that case the funds have arrived at their destination (and are allegedly already spent). This is not a double spend nor "fake sending".
11453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can you help me guys i still didn't receive loan few days ago.. on: June 26, 2016, 08:46:18 AM
Im using coinbase wallet but it show pending but according to the link that i given the transaction has    279 Confirmations
But in coinbase it still shows pending..
This is why you should not use web wallets. Desktop wallets are recommended. If you are unable to use "heavy" wallets such as Bitcoin Core (due to resource requirements), then you can use a SPV wallet like Electrum. In your case, the best way to proceed is to contact the Coinbase support staff. They're the only ones who can help you.
11454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can you help me guys i still didn't receive loan few days ago.. on: June 26, 2016, 08:37:18 AM
What are you talking about here exactly? The block explorer clearly shows the transactions as confirmed:


And the transaction is here https://blockchain.info/tx/fb235951f9d22469f100aa2032ed1024a32e1d1ca8c962ded2e0a99740a23c29
until now didn't receive my loan 0.015 btc..
Is this the transaction (i.e. loan) that you're supposed to receive? What wallet are you using?
11455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: There was no DAO hack on: June 26, 2016, 08:13:15 AM
The Ethereum has hard forked several times before. They were all successful. I also voted for the fork to freeze the stolen funds.
So you're stating that this fork was be justified due to previous forks even though they aren't even remotely similar? By voting for this fork you are indirectly stating that you're only interested in greed, not in the principles of cryptocurrencies. ETH, the soon to be: centralized, non-censorship resistant, mutable and government friendly blockchain featuring bailouts.

The majority of the miners think there is a hack are colluding to attack the network and blacklist transactions.
i.e. There is now a DAO hack in progress
I was just about to post practically the same thing. This is them abandoning all the principles of ETH, and blacklisting coins. ETH is the Fed of the cryptocurrency space?
11456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As Global Currencies Plunge Over Brexit, Investors Turn to Bitcoin on: June 26, 2016, 07:22:44 AM
The GBP to Bitcoin and vice versa volume has not really changed much. This indicates and confirms that nobody is rushing into Bitcoin (at least with that currency). Besides it does take some time to move your money as well.

Well, because I get paid in fiat, items are priced in fiat, it's much easier to use a debit card or cash, there are more protections, and fiat is far more stable than bitcoin.  Those are the reasons why I don't see it as a "good" currency.  At least if bitcoin were more stable, it'd be better.  And if more merchants took it.  But for me, if I want to buy something I usually have dollars that I earned from my paycheck.  It is jumping through a hoop to buy bitcoin just to spend it, and there's no need to do that.  The reason I buy bitcoin is as a speculative instrument and somewhat as a store of value.  If I want to buy something, I just use cash.
The problem is earning Bitcoin then, not spending it. If you already have a sufficient amount of Bitcoin, there is no reason to use a CC or such as you'd have to 'jump through a hoop' to get the fiat equivalent. The stability of the price does not matter that much either since you're paying at a said time with the exchange rate of that time. The only downside is that if you keep Bitcoin for a longer amount of time, there are going to be times at which your fiat equivalent is worth less(due to the price dropping). However, there's also the chance that it will go up.

actually i think that the long time would only be for regular people not for experienced traders, the later will switch easily and fast. but also i think the effect of brexit so far is mostly hype that raised the price not actual new investors, that is going to take longer.
It might (should?) have an affect in the longer term, but let's wait and see how it plays out.
11457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As Global Currencies Plunge Over Brexit, Investors Turn to Bitcoin on: June 25, 2016, 09:32:47 PM
I would tend to say that this is a premature statement. Just because the price reacted positively that does not mean that a lot of new investors rushed into Bitcoin within a few hours (wouldn't 'rushing' into an investment be irrational?). Anyhow, we've yet to see the full effect of this. It does take some time for the money to move and judging by the Speculation section people are divided when it comes to the effects of Brexit. Some claim that it has no effect, while others say the opposite.

It's good to see bitcoin in the mainstream media, and not in stories about drugs or porn or all that other stuff that bitcoin gets tarnished with.
After being proclaimed dead for more than a hundred times, something positive is bound to come by released by the "unbiased" media.

Bitcoin is global, but I have a hard time seeing it as a currency.  A store of value, yes, but as a means to buy things, it hasn't established itself as that with great success.
Why is that? I tend to use Bitcoin for the majority of my purchases. The only times that I do have problems is when merchants such as Amazon are too stubborn to accept Bitcoin directly, so I have to take alternative routes (buying gift-cards from members and services). I'm certain that this experience shall improve considerably in the near future.
11458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Whoa! Hard forks are BAD! on: June 25, 2016, 08:37:17 PM
In the meantime, any ideas?
Enjoy your stay unless you are able to contribute to Bitcoin in any way (developing, testing, etc.). Maybe we will see a new 'round' of scaling proposals in late 2016, you never know.

Whoa! I found out that Bitcoin was hacked in 2010. A hard fork rolled back the tricky transaction. I still think there bad tho. Changing any of the codes now is too dangerous.
That a one of a kind event that broke the initial specifications of Bitcoin. I doubt that it was hard to fork back then considering the small size of the ecosystem.

Ethereum has strong leaders. But they do not have complete control over the course of the coin. The miners will decide.
A decentralized, censorship resistance coin should have no leaders at all. It seems that ETH is going to lose its initial values (code is not law in these "smart contracts"). Besides, this is not the right place to discuss altcoins.

I agree with this. I do not understand why do not they just change the 1MB to 2MB, just a few lines of code, much safer than the SegWit.
You have your answer right there. You don't understand, as in, you didn't do enough research or do not understand the risks behind it. Even if we exclude HF's as being risky on their own, a 2 MB block size limit is potentially un-safe (due to validation time being O(n^2)). Gavin knows this and that is why he has added several limitations in his BIP for Classic. Segwit aims to solve transaction malleability but shall also boost capacity (rising with user adoption), scale down that time to O(n) and bring some other neat things with it as well.
11459  Other / Meta / Re: Service Discussion > New sections. on: June 25, 2016, 05:14:22 PM
I do frequent that sub-section and also move a lot of threads in there regarding individual exchanges and online wallets.
I should publicly stated my opinion: I agree with two of the proposed sections, Exchanges and Online wallets.

No please. Service Discussion seems alive when all are together. If u split them up, individual sub-sections will appear dead.
If by 'active' you mean spammed by signature spammers and a huge mess, then I agree. Finding the content that you're looking for on a forum should be easy (which is not the case in that section - as seen in the statistic provided), especially for new members.
11460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Full node usefulness ??? on: June 25, 2016, 03:02:50 PM
I meant that my RaspNode always fall behind while syncing and never sync with the network.. It is always a step behind.
I have a rPi2+ with a 64 GB pendrive.
Then you mean that your Node is not able to catch up with the network. Interesting. I didn't know that the Pi couldn't handle being a node anymore. If it is not able to catch up using Bitcoin Core 0.12.1 I see no reason why it would be able to do so with 0.12.x or 0.13.0 (both haven't been released yet).
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