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11561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Uk most deprived areas have the Highest number of gambling outlets. on: September 19, 2021, 03:52:40 PM
The article doesn't mention anything about the background of the gamblers who visit these gambling joints. It automatically assumes that such businesses are bad for poor regions, when the reality is that it generates a considerable number of direct and indirect jobs. BTW, I am not surprised by the article. The Guardian is regarded as one of the most left-wing newspapers in the United Kingdom. They are doing what they are best at - destroying jobs. This pattern is repeated across the globe. Wherever you have left-wing organizations, you can witness them protesting against legitimate businesses and trying to close them down.

The favorite pastime of the leftists is to prohibit and destroy. After they create a problem with their actions, they begin to solve it (with their ideas it turns out even worse), so this process is endless. Leftists are cancer. The best thing that can be done is to reduce the influence of the state and increase freedom - this leads to the prosperity of the people, but the leftists do the opposite.
11562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: September 19, 2021, 03:45:27 PM
West Ham vs Manchester united team lineups are in...

Starting XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Varane, Maguire, Shaw, Fred, McTominay, Fernandes, Pogba, Greenwood, Ronaldo

Substitutes: Heaton, Bailly, Dalot, Lingard, Mata, Matic, Van de Beek, Martial, Sancho

West Ham XI: Fabianski, Coufal, Zouma, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Rice, Soucek, Fornals, Benrahma, Vlasic, Bowen.


Westham is a team that is currently in good form and with their last win coming from their Europa campaign this match won't be easy for Manchester United.

Prediction: West Ham 1-2 Manchester United

Wow, you guessed the exact score. Hope you made a bid.
Judging by the statistics, it was an easy match for Manchester: shots on target 4-10, possession of the ball 38 - 62, but considering that if Noble had realized a penalty at the last minute, then Manchester would have lost points, everything looks different.
Ronaldo continues to score, how good he is  Smiley
11563  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you think about youtube/twitch marketing? Is it ethical? on: September 19, 2021, 03:39:05 PM
I regard people as intelligent beings capable of independent decisions and conclusions. Therefore, I do not see anything unethical in such advertising. If it is very easy to deceive you (or rather create a mistaken opinion) with the help of such simple techniques, then this is first of all your problem and you need to raise your level of awareness and a critical view of the world.
If we think this way, we are going to blame the victims instead of the guilty in different situations, with the excuse the victim wasn't smart enough to avoid being deceived by the malicious person. Of course high levels of awareness and distrust are needed to stay safe in a dirty world like this one, but I believe we shouldn't banalize these situations and accept them as normal.

The correct in a healthy society would be to trust what people say, especially if they are advertising something, without the fear we are being cheated by them. And I believe that should be the aim of a good marketing campaign. Lies may work and be profitable on short run, but only truth can build solid bases and thrive on long run.

No. Just in a healthy society, everyone should understand that for an objective understanding, you should not rely on someone else's opinion or advertising, but study the issue from different angles and then make a decision. And the consequences of this decision will be entirely on you. If you want to get into the ideal world where everyone is telling the truth, then most likely you will be upset because there is no such world yet. If you want someone (like the state) to determine what people are allowed to speak or advertise, then most likely you will fall into totalitarianism.
11564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 19, 2021, 03:24:55 PM
~It's a shame but Juve's current performance is still far from expectations, they are in a player transition and it looks like for this season Juve will be very difficult even to reach the top 4.

I can imagine that Juventus will play another disastrous season like the previous one, but it is very difficult for me to imagine that they will take a place below 4th. Most likely, the team is now in a temporary recession and they will overcome it, in addition, the competitors do not seem strong, their results are good, but this can be explained by an easy calendar.
11565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your react related to the new gambling sites promoted here? on: September 19, 2021, 11:31:52 AM
In general, I'm glad that new projects are doing their ANN threads here. This means that they appreciate this forum and understand that their target audience is here (I remember when many ICOs refused to advertise on BTT and only advertised on other sites - this was a bad sign regarding the popularity of this forum).
But I am conservative and very rarely visit new sites, I play where I am already used to.
11566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 19, 2021, 11:25:12 AM
It's really funny to see the results of the Inter Milan Vs Bologna match, Inter Milan managed to win the match with a score that was too far, But if we look at the match statistics, there is a strange thing, what is it? It's Ball Possession Cheesy


Image Source: Google

Inter Milan Scores Many Goals, But Has Less Ball Possession than Bologna Cheesy

This is a really funny statistic, from the outside it may seem that Inter played a defensive scheme and hoped for counterattacks  Cheesy But looking at the number of shots on goal, I see that the reason is that Inter needed less time to bring his attack to its logical conclusion.
I don't think there will be such a number of goals in the central match of the tour, Juventus - Milan, but I hope so  Cheesy
11567  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you think about youtube/twitch marketing? Is it ethical? on: September 19, 2021, 11:16:42 AM
I regard people as intelligent beings capable of independent decisions and conclusions. Therefore, I do not see anything unethical in such advertising. If it is very easy to deceive you (or rather create a mistaken opinion) with the help of such simple techniques, then this is first of all your problem and you need to raise your level of awareness and a critical view of the world.
It only becomes unethical if they posted it without age restrictions this only means they encourage younger people to gamble, so if its uploaded on youtube they must activate the restrictions. Advertisement is fine I personally register on some suggested sites because of Youtube but then I realize that his winnings might not real since he’s advertising the site and he is being paid for that, probably playing the money of casinos just to give false advertisement which is still legal.

It must be admitted that inaccurate advertising is allowed not only for casinos, almost all advertising around speaks only of the pros, but hides the minuses, this can hardly be considered an objective presentation of information.
As for the issue under discussion, I think that age restrictions are observed there - YouTube has a rather tough policy and it is unlikely that someone will risk banning the channel for a one-time profit.
11568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I think I have a gambling problem on: September 19, 2021, 11:12:08 AM
Someone in the thread will explain to me what is meant by gambling with CSGO skins? Is this the purchase and sale of skins in the CSGO for potential profit, or is it something else? I would be glad to hear some details (and to see links to platforms providing such opportunities) because I was working on a similar topic, but in a different game.
11569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 19, 2021, 11:03:17 AM
The match ended with this score 7 - 0. Surprisingly, Levandowski, having played the entire match, scored only one goal. Not the best day for Bochum, but most likely they did not expect any positive result in this match. Bavaria at the start of the season looks invincible. I wonder if they will have a recession after such a start.

Omg 7:0  Cry and the 8:0 in the 88 minute was offside. Now i'm angry because i dont made the bet HC Bayern. That was too easy... Chance missed. Lewandowski's 13th home goals in a row, which is a Bundesliga record.

So 4 goals difference would be a result of 4:0, 5:1 or 6:2. The odds on Bayern HC (0:3) is only 2.15, which is low.

There is no need to worry about a missed chance - such a result looks obvious only after the end of the match, in fact, Bayern could have played more relaxed and won with a smaller but comfortable score.

According to my observations, you are the first to talk about the likelihood of a decline in the results of Bayern at the end of the season. I also thought about this, because when the team starts the season with optimal conditions, it is difficult to maintain them throughout the season. I noted for myself how Zidane and Guardiola, often with their teams it was difficult to enter the beginning of the season. but in the end, their teams peaked and performed excellently. In Bavaria, I am now seeing a completely different picture. Perhaps Negelsmann wants to impress the club management with such results, but it could play a cruel joke with him at the end of the season, or even earlier. Hope I am wrong.

In fact, I'm not sure that Negelsmann was wrong and led Bayern to peak form at the beginning of the season (which means there will be a decline ahead that will have to go through), perhaps later Bavaria will play even better. But when I watch how Bavaria plays now, such thoughts visit me.
11570  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you think about youtube/twitch marketing? Is it ethical? on: September 18, 2021, 09:28:09 PM
I regard people as intelligent beings capable of independent decisions and conclusions. Therefore, I do not see anything unethical in such advertising. If it is very easy to deceive you (or rather create a mistaken opinion) with the help of such simple techniques, then this is first of all your problem and you need to raise your level of awareness and a critical view of the world.

That really depends on life circumstances. Is someone taking drugs and getting addicted to online gambling automatically less intelligent that someone who doesn't get into that situation? I would highly doubt that. You can be in personal trouble or whatever problem you might have in a certain situation, stuff that can make you vulnerable to bad influence that usually wouldn't harm you in the slightest.

Also, age plays a big role. I have made bad decisions with 15/16 years that I would never repeat again.

But if you exclude age, then everything that you have listed - drugs, some personal problems, illness, etc. it is not a problem of who is doing advertising or is your counterparty in any transaction. If a person is considered capable, then all his decisions are his responsibility. Because if you consider it differently, then unexpectedly for yourself, you may face the cancellation of transactions unilaterally and other things due to the fact that the counterparty "had some problems".
11571  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: September 18, 2021, 06:34:24 PM
Ну я не настолько радикален чтобы всю крипту в унитаз спускать из-за того что все данные проверить на 100% нельзя, работаем с тем что есть.
А я не настолько не ценю своё время, чтобы пытаться извлечь полезную информацию из белого шума.
В крипте и так есть с чем постоянно работать: ставки фандинга, раскладка по опционам, эмиссия стейблов, перемещения битков между крупными кошельками, новостной фон и "новостные" вбросы и много чего ещё.
И всё это - информация для анализа, а не просто шум. С ней можно и полезно работать.

Дыа... "новостной фон и новостной шум это информация для анализа", а реальная используемость инструментов неинтересна (ну точнее раз не могу узнать со 100% точностью, то в топку этот наиважнейший показатель), фундаментальненький подход  Grin

Кроме того как видно из моего начального сообщения про "кривой показатель доминирования" я пытаюсь рассмотреть этот вопрос с разных сторон для получения более объективной картины. Комплексный взгляд даст более точное понимание места битка в крипте чем то что сейчас выдается за "доминирование биткоина", а учитывается только капитализация.
Garbage in - garbage out. И никакие попытки этот принцип изменить не могут.
В чём состоит "комплексность" твоего подхода и взгляда в данном случае то?

Правильно, я как раз пытаюсь получить более адекватные входные данные в то время как остальные кушают мусор.
Думаю для понимания "доминации" биткоина надо рассмотреть комплекс характеристик присущих платежным системам ну или в более широком понимании системам которые мы называем криптой. Это и будет комплексным подходом.

Во-первых, вы что же, хейтерок битка что ли и намекаете что он нахуй никому не нужен?
Отнюдь. Мне биток очень даже нужен. Для спекуляций.
Такие высокоспекулятивные инструменты на обычной фонде фиг найдёшь (я не только про иксы, но и про скорость, с которой эти иксы в обе стороны шарашат).

Ясно. Хейтерок  Wink
Поэтому пока нормального обсуждения и не получается у нас так как вам все равно на чем монетку бросать анализировать - хоть на кефире, хоть на солане, хоть на бирбулях или еще каком скаме, а я все-таки биток от скама отделяю.

Во-вторых, может быть есть какая-то связь между тем что люди переходят с медленного и дорогого блокчейна на быстрые и дешевые и поэтому у битка мемпул пустой?
Наверное, есть какая-то связь. Не знаю.
Лично я блокчейн битка использую лишь для того, чтобы ввести/вывести деньги на биржу/обменник. И тут для битка его блокчейн другим не заменишь.
А ты используешь блокчейн битка для чего-то другого? Какие задачи ты решал на блокчейне битка и на какой другой более быстрый блокчейн перешёл сейчас для решения этих же задач?

Да, действительно, вопрос трудный, разобраться нелегко. Чтож такое произошло, после того как в сети битка регулярно случались затыки и комса взлетала до десятков долларов, с пользователями у которых появился выбор уйти на более быстрые и дешевые блокчейны  Roll Eyes
По поводу использования для меня основной юзкейс стэблкоины, как вы понимаете блокчейн битка тут мимо. Раньше Эфир, сейчас бы наверно пользовался троном, но нет потребности.

Отрицать юзкейсы эфира и прочих блокчейнов в стаблкоинах, играх, самрт-контрактах, дефи, нфт и т.д. это сверхнаглость, я тоже половину (больше) всего этого считаю скамом и херней, но есть люди которые так не считают и за это платят, нравится вам это или нет.
Конечно есть такие люди. Я этого и не отрицаю.
Я лишь говорю, что мы не знаем сколько таких реальных людей?
А то вон, по ссылке выше про голосование по ключевому вопросу на Venus видим, что в голосовании приняло участие аж 16+39=55 кошельков.
При том что XVS - один из самых раскрученных и хайповых активов на BSC!
И сразу возникает вопрос: а в менее распиаренных лохченах сколько реальных людей то хоть что-то делают? 10? 20? 100? И зачем тогда им тыщи транз в секунду?

Да, не знаем, но я пытаюсь узнать/примерно прикинуть сколько.
Хз к чему вы приплетаете какие-то щитки из второй сотни кмк, я стараюсь рассматривать топов.
Что касается "нахрена им тыщи транз в секунду" ответ очевиден - уже были моменты когда блокчейн битка не вмещал свой лимит в 400к транз в сутки все транзы с рынка плюс эфир не вмещал в свой миллион++ соответственно очень даже надо т.е. есть спрос.

Ладно, раз вы не хотите анализировать "белый шум" скажите просто свое мнение/предположение - какой процент от нефейковых транзакций во всей крипте выполняется на битке? 100к из 110к? 10к из 1м? Любые цифры назовите  Smiley
11572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I think I have a gambling problem on: September 18, 2021, 04:13:47 PM
Hey guys! I just wanted to make this post to see whether or not you think that what I do for fun has turned into a problem, let me set the scene.


I started online gambling a while ago, at first CSGO skins gambling, then crypto gambling. I havnt lost a lot yet, but I honestly think its a problem. My idea of fun nowadays is booting up NordVPN, going to Stake, depositing crypto into the website, and gambling. I spend hours gambling, I dont lose much, but I also dont win much, I split even almost every night. But its all I can think about sometimes, when Im at school I think about gambling im gonna do when I get home. But I think my gambling might get me in trouble, im not even 18 (4 years away from it) yet and its almost all I think about sometimes. Do you guys think I should make an effort to quit?

Of course you should stop playing, but if this is a problem for you, then maybe you should install a casino emulator and satisfy your thirst for free? I remember I had such periods and if you give yourself the freedom and completely get fed up with the process, then your mania will pass (I hope).

By the way, on which platform did you gambling with CSGO skins?
11573  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you think about youtube/twitch marketing? Is it ethical? on: September 18, 2021, 03:59:02 PM
I regard people as intelligent beings capable of independent decisions and conclusions. Therefore, I do not see anything unethical in such advertising. If it is very easy to deceive you (or rather create a mistaken opinion) with the help of such simple techniques, then this is first of all your problem and you need to raise your level of awareness and a critical view of the world.
11574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: G A M B L E R S ❗❗ What are your thoughts on this? on: September 18, 2021, 03:54:05 PM
In fact, I do not see a solution to this problem (progress does not stand still and bots are getting better) and the long history of the site and its reputation in no way guarantees that players in PvP mode will not use bots or special software. It seems to me that the only way out now is to play live, which is probably why offline casinos will always be in demand despite the rapid development of the virtual world.
The problem of bots can be solved in certain games by implementing an anti-cheat mechanism that detects user behavior and bans them. I tell you an example, I used to play online games PubG and they have such a mechanism where they detect bots and cheaters and ban them instantly. So, if every game can implement that kind of mechanism, the problem of bots will be long gone.

Option-B is more satisfactory and less addictive because you will be bored after losing 10 times against a player but if you lose against the gambling house, you will be tilted.

I think that given the improvement of bots, sooner or later no one will be able to distinguish them from real people. I heard that YouTube 5 years ago was "deceived" by bots and began to perceive their patterns as human and began to consider real people as bots  Grin
By the way, I think that after 10 losses to a person I will not be bored, I think I will be very angry and will be on tilt.
11575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 18, 2021, 03:37:57 PM
is hamburger sv playing in munich today ? why ? the bayern are leading 7:0  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

The match ended with this score 7 - 0. Surprisingly, Levandowski, having played the entire match, scored only one goal. Not the best day for Bochum, but most likely they did not expect any positive result in this match. Bavaria at the start of the season looks invincible. I wonder if they will have a recession after such a start.
11576  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Биржа Binance 🔶 on: September 18, 2021, 12:07:41 PM
Еще немножко фуда.
США исследуют возможную инсайдерскую торговлю на Binance - новости Bloomberg
~
В обзоре участвуют следователи Комиссии по торговле товарными фьючерсами (CFTC), которые в последние недели связывались с потенциальными свидетелями, говорится в отчете Bloomberg, добавляя, что Binance не обвиняется в правонарушениях, и расследование может не привести к каким-либо официальным действиям.

CFTC не сразу ответила на запрос о комментарии.
источник: https://www.reuters.com/business/us-probes-possible-insider-trading-binance-bloomberg-news-2021-09-17/

Ну типа заглянули в бордель чтобы выяснить ебутся там или нет? И даже подчеркнули что не факт что найдут что-то в этом борделе, никаких обвинений не выдвигается.
Что-то со стороны это выглядит как предложение от которого невозможно отказаться, и суть этого предложения тоже примерно понятна (КУС/АМЛ и лечь под регуляторов полностью). Думаю что банан на котором клейма ставить негде это предложение примет.
11577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: September 18, 2021, 12:00:12 PM
We must remember that the odds of the matches not only follow the probabilities of a certain team beating the other but also depend heavily on the people taking the bets, it seems that people really trust that Norway will beat Turkey and the sportsbooks have decreased the odds given to Norway to create an incentive for other gamblers to bet on Turkey and balance their books, so this seems like a perfect opportunity to get a value bet on Turkey if you ask me.

I thought about it too, and I immediately remembered a recent case of such distorted odds - in the Pacquiao-Spence match (which was unfortunately canceled and Pacquiao lost to another weaker opponent), the bets on Spence's win were very attractive (although he was an obvious favorite) due to for the fact that many Pacquiao fans were betting on Pacquiao and the bookmakers were forced to take this into account.
11578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ BOXING POLL ADDED ]: Fury vs Wilder III - THE TRILOGY IS BACK ON !!! on: September 18, 2021, 11:49:35 AM
I was one of those who did not care for this trilogy. However, I am beginning to feel excited hehehe. I am also beginning to speculate that Deontay Wilder might be ready for Tyson Fury and knockout Fury before the 5th round. Odds for Fury only 1.29, for Wilder 3.25? It appears everyone has forgotten about the eraser hehehe.

Initially, I really wanted to watch this fight and was looking forward to it, but all this clowning with the transfer of dates noticeably cooled my ardor, so now I will just watch it if the opportunity presents itself, but I cannot say that I am very worried about this. As for the chances, I already wrote that they are overestimated on Fury, I do not think that he will have such a significant advantage in battle (if at all), if such odds are closer to the battle, then I will bet on Wilder.
11579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: G A M B L E R S ❗❗ What are your thoughts on this? on: September 18, 2021, 11:38:57 AM
How can you be sure of the fairness of the game if neural networks beat people in all of the existing games now? Neither chess players nor GO players can be sure that their opponent is not using special software to cheat. And if we are talking about games where only luck decides everything, then what is the difference between playing against a person and against a casino in this case?

That's my always and usual concern about Player vs Player mode, the fairness of the game. We don't have any assurance that we are competing against a real human and not a bot. Even if let's say they are humans, there's a possibility that 1-2 players in that room do have a 3rd party program to directly help the player or guide them to the next move.

For new sites or doesn't establish yet a good reputation, I might bit hesitant to test their PvP mode. Will only do it on a site that has somehow already been in the industry for a long and already establish a large community and user-based.

In fact, I do not see a solution to this problem (progress does not stand still and bots are getting better) and the long history of the site and its reputation in no way guarantees that players in PvP mode will not use bots or special software. It seems to me that the only way out now is to play live, which is probably why offline casinos will always be in demand despite the rapid development of the virtual world.
11580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 18, 2021, 11:32:30 AM
I don't think the result will be a draw. AC Milan is on fire and they won't waste the chance to maintain their position on the top 3. Sure, AC Milan players will have a better motivation to win the match although they will play in Juventus home. While Juventus, I assume they won't have a big change in their playing attitude, they still have low motivation and are not really confident to beat AC Milan. Although they can beat Malmo in UCL, I don't think it is enough to improve their mentality. So, I predict AC Milan will beat Juventus 2-0.

Quite a bold assumption. Does it bother you that the bookmakers are now giving these odds for this match?
2,06 - 3,70 - 3,55
And Juventus is considered the clear favorite in this pair. By the way, if you place a bet on a dry win for Milan (with one of the outcome options 0-1, 0-2, 0-3), then the odds will be 6.2.

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