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1161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 03, 2014, 08:15:53 AM
Eadeqa your supposed to be a "respected" member of the nxt community.. stop talking shit about nem as if nem has done something to personally harm you. i know you want to "fit in with the gang" and all but this is just lowering you to a bottom feeding troll destroying what ever respect you had.

This isn't a new point.  Nxt didn't have development fund, so unclaimed coins went to development development.  Nem already allocated 25% for the development, and now they are planning to add unclaimed coins to that stash, growing the development fund to 50%.   I mentioned this months ago, and back then Jaguar acknowledge this could become a problem. Nothing has been done to fix it, except doing exactly what I warned will happen.  Nem has the biggest percentage of coins controlled by the developers, only behind Ripple.

50% of coins would be controlled by the developers.

Im sure there is something we can do to SHOW that the unclaimed stakes are NOT controlled by the Devs..........have you any ideas?

Nothing has been decided yet. And it is not the plan to make them developer controlled as there is no plan as of yet. We will come up with one and then will be the time to complain.

Just a sidenote: All the complaints have lead the core team to actually consider burning and/or raising stakes for existing stakeholders.
My guess is we won't do 1 thing with unclaimed stakes. We will probably do a couple of things.
1162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 03, 2014, 07:18:49 AM
PHASE 2 FOR BTT HAS STARTED
We'll update OPs here and on forum.nemcoin.com soon but i didn't want to let you guys wait.

register address and token here -> chain.nem.ninja/stakes
chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered shows all registered with address AND token + all received NEMStake assets from the NXT AE. Everyone please check if your are there after you've registered or sent your asset

Remember to read up on how to create a REAL address https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2488.0 and in other threads on that forum.


You know... a lot of people here take the time to rake all of you folks that burn your time over the coals, but not enough people stop to say "thanks". Thanks Pat, nice work. You did a good job dealing with a lot of coordination.

Well said, thanks Pat

KC

Much appreciated !
1163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 07:59:40 PM
Create real account data will create every time a new adress-public key-private key ?


1.Than the old is working nevertheless?
2.can I get this data in this data showing again, or they will be displayed only one time?

It'll only be displayed once.
1164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 07:12:13 PM
So, what ever the real address is, it have to match to the token during the launch?

I don't understand what you mean by that  Undecided

You have to keep the private key in a safe and secret place. Don't ever loose your private key or reveal it to another person.

Come launch you can import that private key in the client and you'll find your NEM in that account. The token won't be needed then anymore. It's only needed to register your address.
1165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 07:08:38 PM
Hi,

i dont want so start to talk again - what to do with unclaimed stakes -   but what do you think about this project?

https://www.cryptocurrency-bank.com/

We could invest with that fund into the 1st cryptocurrency-bank, this could be a huge thing in future and NEM would recieve constantly dividend, with this dividend could stabilize the NEM system.  The Fidor Bank is a good known Bank in Germany, couse it is a partner from the exchange bitcoin.de  the majority of Bitcoin user in Germany has a Fidor account.  It is a trustful bank,  and Kraken as exchange is also known for the most of the community.

Nem could be a big supporter for the first cryptocurrency bank ever and the CCbank for NEM, and its a real big promotion as well.

Lets think about the potencial in the future.

I suggested that as well Smiley
My idea was to become one of the partners and distribute the unclaimed to new customers of the first crypto oriented bank. That'd be quite awesome. Many new, real people that are obviously crypto interested. Won't get any better than that.
1166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
The stake, what i send from NXT EA is not in the registered stakes. I made real nem address with
account starting "T" and i created address starting with "N" and that "N" i can not find.

Noone will be able to help you if you give us 0 information.
What is the id of the transaction you sent it back ?

It can take up to 10 minutes before a confirmed tx shows up on the /registered page.

10133853121443170034      send it 26.10.2014 already



You didn't send it to me. You've sent it to NXT-93YZ-83SQ-PJGF-EQB43 instead of NXT-97MX-EWKV-CGKX-DA5WH.
Also you encryted the message but that is the least of your problems.

What gave you the idea to send it to that address ?


Actually that was the automatic transfer cost.

Stake transfer was  12162958018582052392   and 24.10.2014

Looks better and that shows up on the /registered page as well.
The search function of your browser works wonders. I suggest you try it sometime Smiley

That`s possible, because i did it about 5 times..

Questions:

if i create  "real account data" and repeat it (after closing client etc.), do i get the same result or does the client generate new one?

Just want to be sure before sending btt stake..........





Everytime to use the "real address generator" you get different results. It's just a key-generator it doesn't store anything - that's up to you Smiley
1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 06:31:24 PM
The stake, what i send from NXT EA is not in the registered stakes. I made real nem address with
account starting "T" and i created address starting with "N" and that "N" i can not find.

Noone will be able to help you if you give us 0 information.
What is the id of the transaction you sent it back ?

It can take up to 10 minutes before a confirmed tx shows up on the /registered page.

10133853121443170034      send it 26.10.2014 already



You didn't send it to me. You've sent it to NXT-93YZ-83SQ-PJGF-EQB43 instead of NXT-97MX-EWKV-CGKX-DA5WH.
Also you encryted the message but that is the least of your problems.

What gave you the idea to send it to that address ?


Actually that was the automatic transfer cost.

Stake transfer was  12162958018582052392   and 24.10.2014

Looks better and that shows up on the /registered page as well.
The search function of your browser works wonders. I suggest you try it sometime Smiley
1168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 06:25:44 PM
The stake, what i send from NXT EA is not in the registered stakes. I made real nem address with
account starting "T" and i created address starting with "N" and that "N" i can not find.

Noone will be able to help you if you give us 0 information.
What is the id of the transaction you sent it back ?

It can take up to 10 minutes before a confirmed tx shows up on the /registered page.

10133853121443170034      send it 26.10.2014 already



You didn't send it to me. You've sent it to NXT-93YZ-83SQ-PJGF-EQB43 instead of NXT-97MX-EWKV-CGKX-DA5WH.
Also you encryted the message but that is the least of your problems.

What gave you the idea to send it to that address ?
1169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 06:17:36 PM
The stake, what i send from NXT EA is not in the registered stakes. I made real nem address with
account starting "T" and i created address starting with "N" and that "N" i can not find.

Noone will be able to help you if you give us 0 information.
What is the id of the transaction you sent it back ?

It can take up to 10 minutes before a confirmed tx shows up on the /registered page.
1170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
Is there any Link to the List with succesfull completet Phase 2 registration for BTT Stakeholders? With Token and Adress registration.

https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered

search for your username
1171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 10:25:48 AM
How long do we have to register the NEM key along with the token?

same as the NXT AE people have to redeem their asset. A deadline will be announced soon.


How can a receiving address be tested to confirm it works before requesting the stake?

Dou you mean how can you test that the data you've created work ?
There is a function for that - in the same menu - in the client.
1172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 08:34:25 AM
I never seen so many posts by people that already were on my ignorelist over just one night.
I'd like to address all the, very forseeable FUD that is being spread around one more time.

Lie: Devs are taking all unlcaimed for their own pockets
Truth: Devs aren't taking anything. It was explained numerous times what is actually meant with development and nothing has even been deicded yet.

Lie: Devs are breaking the rules because they changed the stakeholderlist again
Truth: No one is breaking any rules here. What is happening is the rules are being enforced. If the final stakeholderlist had been actually final all those people that fell for the phishing attack would have had lost their stake for good. But we helped them to exchange their nick on that list. How come noone started complaining about breaking the rules back then ?

Lie: Devs are acting like Gestapo and Stasi
Truth: My guess is you don't even know what you are talking about. Like we said in the write-up on how we proceeded WE DID NOT STORE ANY PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION. We can now that stakes were registered by the same person but we have no means of finding out who that person is. We can't even find out which part of the world they live in.

As to why we did this...
People seem to think that distribution isn't important. For non inflationary coins distribution is very very important. Not only because we want to get as many people as possible to get their hands on NEM but also because whlaes are destroying the market especially if they don't actually care about NEM. Look at other cryptos that are in the hands of a few. As soon as the price goes up is dumps down again  because the whlaes start cashing out. People that got excited about it and just bought in instantly loose money and probably interest because they don't want to be dealing with these kind of games.

1173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 02, 2014, 08:24:22 AM
How long do we have to register the NEM key along with the token?

same as the NXT AE people have to redeem their asset. A deadline will be announced soon.
1174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 01, 2014, 07:41:36 PM
Short question about about the remark on the beta download page: I use Firefox 32 bit and a 64 bit Java on Ubuntu - everything works fine. Why the restriction?  I suppose the address/key generation is not affected by this, the data look fine and the client has verified them correctly...

Which restriction do you mean ?
If you were able to generate a key then everything is fine Smiley
1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 01, 2014, 07:11:05 PM
I'd post this on the forums but it's not sending me an activation email.

I'm being accused of being a sockpuppet... which is pretty devastating.



Is there any way I can appeal this decision? I'd appreciate it hugely if I could... PM me any responses to keep the thread clean...

(Just an aside: that wasn't a very mature way of going about removing someone's stake. Doesn't exactly give off the vibe NEM wants does it?)



Plz conteact the forum administrators about the mail...you should be getting it.
About the appeal...in your case it isn't going to get your anywhere. The data speak a very clear language.
You can read about how we detected sockpuppets here https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2620.0
We didn't take all stakes away from puppet masters so you can register your other stakes (and according to the db you already have)
1176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 01, 2014, 06:11:28 PM
PHASE 2 FOR BTT HAS STARTED
We'll update OPs here and on forum.nemcoin.com soon but i didn't want to let you guys wait.

register address and token here -> chain.nem.ninja/stakes
chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered shows all registered with address AND token + all received NEMStake assets from the NXT AE. Everyone please check if your are there after you've registered or sent your asset

Remember to read up on how to create a REAL address https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2488.0 and in other threads on that forum.


quoting for exposure
1177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 01, 2014, 03:00:10 PM
Done,

Im registered.

Are we going to have the coins on the 0.4.12-BETA or is going to be other one for the new coins? Ive created the real account there but is not shown anywhere.

Coins will come when we launch the live-net which will happen later this month.
1178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 01, 2014, 01:55:45 PM
PHASE 2 FOR BTT HAS STARTED
We'll update OPs here and on forum.nemcoin.com soon but i didn't want to let you guys wait.

register address and token here -> chain.nem.ninja/stakes
chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered shows all registered with address AND token + all received NEMStake assets from the NXT AE. Everyone please check if your are there after you've registered or sent your asset

Remember to read up on how to create a REAL address https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2488.0 and in other threads on that forum.
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 01, 2014, 12:58:23 PM
just looked at https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered

seems only around 200 address show up... what happened the other gazillion? just not loaded in yet?

where do you get the idea that there should be more ?
1 address can count for x stakes since there was no limit per tx.

502 bad gateway .......when I click the link

It was online for like 1 minute to test...of course someone noticed Smiley
1180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion] on: November 01, 2014, 12:44:50 PM
just looked at https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered

seems only around 200 address show up... what happened the other gazillion? just not loaded in yet?

where do you get the idea that there should be more ?
1 address can count for x stakes since there was no limit per tx.
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