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1161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: September 04, 2023, 02:50:56 AM
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The thing is that Trump back then had the advantage of facing Hillary, who is a despicable character within the American politics, to be honest. Even democrats were aware of her being the lesser of two evils, added to the long tradition of the presidency of the United States being a position for men and not women.

Whether the American left wants to admit it or not, the average person there is not yet prepared to give their vote of confidence to a woman, so back in 2020 they went with Biden for the nomination. I have seen people around internet talking about the possibility of Kamala Harris nomination for the democrat party in the future, but that is very unlikely, the party wont risk another 2016 situation in the expected future, specially with the tendency of the Republican party to push forward men. Trump happens to be the most eccentric and  populist of them in these latest years, breaking precedent after precedent.

Maybe....

But you could have said the same thing about Obama, and the people of the US not prepared to vote for a black man for president... yet, it happened.

Also, many people never believed that Trump would be elected, and yet, he was elected.

Anything can happen in the US elections really.
1162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can i make 100 $ daily from online casinos on: September 04, 2023, 02:49:08 AM
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It is also a way to get that adrenaline rush that most of us need, there are adrenaline junkies jumping out of bridges just to feel alive, gambling is a way to get similar results without having to risk your life.

So it makes sense that people gamble as much as they do now, as their lives while fulfilling are on the boring side, gambling allows people for a few minutes or hours to feel that adrenaline rush for a modicum cost, in something that I think it is a fair deal.

You can also get positive feelings by doing other things, like going out for a run, hitting up the gym, etc.

It's not as easy and immediate as gambling, but you also will feel better for longer, and it will be more future proof than gambling.
1163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: September 03, 2023, 12:18:27 PM
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A friend of a friend of mine was saying Trump would win the election and I was saying no way, Hillary would win. It was long time ago, back in the 2016. I was so confident that I accepted his bet, $100(I was a bit drunk), and was expecting to win the money. We all know what happened. Since then I'm betting only what I can afford to lose even if I "know" the outcome "for sure". And don't gamble when you are drunk, guys.

Yeah, I think most people were not expecting Trump to be president back then.

Now it's a different story because there's a precedent.

We will have to simply wait and see what happens.

This has more twists than a Venezuelan telenovela.
1164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 03, 2023, 12:17:12 PM
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The world is simply bigger than we think. Football is the #1 famous sport in my country too. In USA, it is basketball I believe. (or is it baseball?) In some other part of the world where Brit influence is strong, Cricket is more popular. (Believe it or not, I don't know anything about cricket other than what I just said now) If the North Americans don't like football (they even call it soccer wtf) we can't blame them for this. I for example, never played baseball, never watched a baseball game, just like cricket, I don't know anything about it. Played basketball only a few times and I found it pretty boring. Football (not soccer) is all there is for me. I don't really watch any other sport.

Yeah, that's the thing, different countries will have different sports.

But as a worldwide sport, there is really only one, football/soccer. There is nothing that comes even close to it really in terms of global passion for it. In terms of number of people, and level of passion for it.
1165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: September 03, 2023, 12:15:24 PM
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I think this case is nonsense, at least it was a man and a woman, or I see nothing wrong there, what happens is that now there is the generation of crystal that things like that offend them, also, by God what happened was a kiss, nothing more, now, almost all the people who are "feminists" well something offended them, because yes, of course, it was seen something like that he is too old for her, but come on, we are in a world where they see it as normal wrong, then it is not the idea either.

With respect to the things that they have said with the Spanish and the girl, it is somewhat exaggerated, first they are offended, then they receive support from many women in the world, then a video comes out where the girl they kissed enjoys herself and sharing a lot with her colleagues, the video is out there, and well, it is something that is generated and was generated due to emotion, also something must be rescued here, the Spaniard asked her for a kiss, he didn't even steal it, then this Kind of things are the ones that could help that a lot.

In general terms, we as thinking people, that one thing is football, another thing is what they do with their lives, and the type of sexuality they have, or however they demonstrate it to each other, now the football that Spain demonstrated was something great , that is something that even surprised me because the truth is that I did not believe that Spain would win, in fact it was something that many did not expect, but the players did very well, they are the world champions, they gave a great football demonstration, and that is what we call to do the best for a country, representing Spain like goddesses.

As for the other problems to come and when they asked the Spaniard to resign, I thought it was very excellent that he himself said that he was not going to resign, that it was something that he did not have to do, and it seemed childish on the part of a player like Iniesta stated that football was being damaged by him, honestly Iniesta shouldn't get involved in problems like this, because he looks bad, honestly it's because he can be a team coach or something because as a politician he has no real life.

It really is a weird thing that the story of this kiss has gotten more traction that Spain winning the womens world cup.

It's a bit insane to be honest, who cares about that kiss, the girl went along, said there was nothing wrong, and that's it.

Why are there so many people creating this whole thing, the people involved didn't see anything wrong, so people should just continue with their lives, nothing happened.
1166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: September 03, 2023, 12:12:24 PM
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With that analysis, we can determine what we will do and will know the respective risks if we want to place a bet. We can also find out how big our chances of winning from these bets, even though that doesn't guarantee we can get big wins. At least we can know our opportunities to determine how many bets we can place.

Well, that's the past that we've passed and can be a good lesson for us, especially to avoid the same mistakes in the future. We can also be more careful in betting because we cannot win from the casino forever and there must be awareness when we gamble and when to stop gambling. We also have to avoid losing a lot of money from gambling so that we can use the money to gamble the next day.

Yes, you can always predict with a certain accuracy what the future will be.

For example if you roll a dice six times, you will probably see a number 1 at some point. If you roll it six more times, you will have double the chances of seeing a one, and so on.

You can of course never see a 1, but it is increasingly improbable.
1167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: September 03, 2023, 12:09:46 PM
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Agree with you. Success in gambling of one who plays gambling does not make the person not to be addicted. Addiction in gambling is one who can't stay without playing gambling it doesn't mean if the game comes out successfully or not . One who succeeds in gambling must be addicted to gambling because I don't think it will be easy for the person to stop gambling. People get addicted to gambling because of the money involved in it, if success can make someone play gambling all time that means it is addiction.

Yeah, that's the thing. People do get addicted at gambling, because it is fun to win money basically.

And people win from time to time when gambling.

The problem is that people lose more than what they win, so it's not a great idea in the end.
1168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 02, 2023, 09:38:03 AM
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Well.. the last line summarizes it. It's a good thing, right? In Europe and Latin America, too much importance is being given to one sport and everything else suffers as a result. But in the United States, no one sport is having a monopoly and there is enough attention being given to most of the Olympic disciplines. One disadvantage with the United States is that despite being the no.1 economy in the world, they don't have a good football league. The Major League Soccer is nowhere in comparison to European leagues such as Serie A or EPL.

I don't think it's either a good or a bad thing... it just is.

The passion about football only exists in Europe and South America. Is that a good or a bad thing?, I don't think it matters, it just is.

And also I don't think you can create that by putting more money into the competition. South America is an example of poor countries with a love of football whereas in the European competitions there's a lot of money involved. So, it's independent of money.
1169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: September 02, 2023, 09:35:14 AM
Got a question for you guys.
Does anyone one of you know someone in real life who knows as much foreign politics as you do? If so, have you considered to bet personally with people know you regarding this incoming USA elections?

In my case, there are some people I know who are pretty much into international politics and the American situation, so I have seriously toyed with the idea on betting against them on this election, besides going with casino options. It would not be as much money as I would trust a reputable casino or betting platform, though.

has anyone there considered to do the same thing with family members, friends or co workers?

But how do you actually bet with normal people?

Like, how do you actually enforce the payment?

Usually these people are probably your friends, so you will end up losing the friends and the money.
1170  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: September 02, 2023, 09:34:13 AM
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interesting, yes, fake tokens is a way, you could create lots of it and attack it in a way you play until you win
that would be a cool experiment, to check how many rolls you need to have a win

probably there are other ways like plugging an usb like stuff with some code and kaboom

Yeah, if I remember correctly there was a long time ago a coin forger that was so good that there was no way to tell the difference between the real coins and the forgeries, and the coins basically continued in circulation.

I think they found out about him eventually because he continued to replicate his experiment multiple times, and something happened. I think if he just stopped at some point no one would have catched him.
1171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: September 02, 2023, 09:31:24 AM
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In my opinion you are looking at things too one-sidedly. Any addiction can have several stages. No one sells their house and puts all their money on the line on the second day of gambling. In addition, not everyone is able to bring themselves to such despair and such people are likely to have mental health problems, which in combination with gambling and lead a person to trouble.
All of us are somewhat dependent on gambling if we play them and a successful player is no exception, he just knows how to control himself and is fully aware of his actions.

That's a good point.

Addiction takes time, people start with a few dollars, and then eventually it continues increasing until at some point they will be betting hundreds or thousands of dollars without much worries.

It's at that point where really bad things can happen. Someone can lose their entire life savings in an afternoon.
1172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election on: September 02, 2023, 09:29:40 AM
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There are two things going on here. First of all, Trump got a boost from the mugshot drama and then Biden's approval is at historical lows. Job Approval is at -12 to -16 now, which is much worse that the ratings that Trump had when he was in power. One major contributing factor to Biden's continued poor show is the rising crude oil prices. When Trump was in power, crude oil was trading at $40-$50 per barrel. It has gone up by 2x now. And this is going to have a direct impact on the retail inflation inside the United States.

Good points.

Still there's a lot of time for the election, and there's probably going to be a lot of things happening from now until then.

My guess is that Trump will continue to gain more momentum with a continuous series of controversies, and Biden will slowly continue to lose ground.

It will be definitely an interesting thing to watch.
1173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 01, 2023, 02:05:05 AM
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Not just me but everyone knows football is the first priority in America because the American people usually prefer to watch basketball instead of Football but we are talking about a great tournament like the World Cup in which people from all over the world will come to watch the games, there is the same situation in America and even if football is not their first priority but I'm sure their people will pay more attention to this sport in during the World Cup.

Yeah, fair enough, but what I'm saying is that in South America and Europe you have fans talking about footaball 365 days a year, every year.

It's like religion. Everyone loves it and lives it.

Whereas in America is just popular when there's something big going on.
1174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: September 01, 2023, 02:03:29 AM
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A way to think about AI is to look at chess

will studying AI moves or playing against an AI help you become a chessmaster?
no it won't.

can it be used as a resource to help you improve and teach you new things, as well as study your mistakes and blunders? yes it can.

Well, maybe not with chess because deep blue was not really that "smart".

But in Go, absolutely yes, and that has happened. AlphaGo surprised Go masters and they basically started to learn new moves based on what AlphaGo was doing.

It really is an alternative intelligence, and we humans can learn from it.
1175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: September 01, 2023, 02:01:50 AM
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would be awesome to talk with some of the programmers and engineers that work on these algos and on building these machines

or even getting a machine and reverse hacking it to figure it out
so many things to discover

do you things physical slots can be gamed?

Every system has vulnerabilities, so in theory even physical slot machines can be hacked.

Also some people have managed to create fake token to feed the machines, etc. People are always going to try to cheat, in every possible way.
1176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can i make 100 $ daily from online casinos on: September 01, 2023, 02:00:25 AM
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Human nature does not want to feel tired of working to earn money. Everyone wants the same thing, but many people don't want to give up and prefer to keep looking for work rather than expecting quick results without effort. They know it is impossible unless they have been rich since birth and will never feel the slightest lack.

Gambling is indeed entertainment and nothing more. People should know that so they don't rely on gambling to make money. So it is better not to think about making gambling your main source of income because it will be difficult to get it. And we have more potential to experience more losses than to win.

I think human nature does enjoy work.

When you finish something you usually feel good. Accomplished.

Whereas if you are just laying on bed you usually feel bad.
1177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election on: September 01, 2023, 01:59:10 AM
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Just check the opinion polls, and it is very clear. The latest opinion poll for POTUS 2024 elections was released by Economist/YouGov yesterday. Trump is leading Biden by 1 point (44-43). Of all the polls released during the last 7-8 days, Trump is leading in three polls, while Biden is leading the other two by one point. I am still not sure whether the lead is going to hold, but obviously the mugshot drama seems to have helped him to stay in the media limelight. And there are talks about getting Vivek Ramaswamy as his running mate. If it happens, then it would be another game changer.

Interesting.

So it looks like Trump is on an upwards trajectory at the time, he was close but still slightly below, but that recently has changed, and it looks like it's continuing upwards.

Still a lot of time until the election, and many things can happen, but certainly interesting.
1178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: August 31, 2023, 10:03:40 AM
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That is very true. But we might still be surprised that there are still people who want to try it for a while because they are tempted by the wins that other people get, which makes them interested. They will get loss after loss, which will reduce the money they bring into the casino and if they don't realize it, they will still lose that money.

And if they want to recover from their defeat, even then it will not be easy because after experiencing loss they will not be able to win immediately. It will only add to their despair and lead to prolonged frustration at not getting the desired win. But if they can really get the big win, they should immediately stop gambling and open a business to be able to make money from their business.

Yeah, that's basically how the casinos make their money.

It's basically free marketing when gambler boast about their wins, while ignoring all the times they have lost.
1179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: August 31, 2023, 10:02:32 AM
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The difference between 99.75% and 100% is huge. It's basically the difference between uncertainty and certainty. Anyone would prefer certainty to uncertainty, that's for sure. Only in reality nothing can be 100% guaranteed. In reality a surgery with a 100% success rate isn't guaranteed to be successful in any particular case in the future. It is likely to be successful, but never guaranteed.

Back to slots. If there was a slot where the house edge was negative, meaning that a player had, say, a 2% advantage. Would that imply that you would definitely win money on that slot after playing it a thousand times? It's obvious that after 100 million times you would win some money, but what about a thousand spins?

Nothing in real life has a 100% probability of happening, there is always a small chance of weird things to happen.
1180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can i make 100 $ daily from online casinos on: August 31, 2023, 10:01:33 AM
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Unfortunately, even though in his heart, he already knew that what he was doing was difficult to make money from gambling, he still did it in the hope that one day he could make money. But to make money every day from gambling was very difficult, and rather than risk losing a lot of money, he would better rather not gamble and find a job that could really pay him off.

He has a greater chance of making money by finding and getting a job. Although his income depends on the type of work, at least he can bring money home, whether it's daily, weekly, or monthly. And he no longer needs to think about or worry about losing at gambling because, at work, he is not gambling or spending money.

Yeah, people don't want to do any work, they usually just want to get quick results with no efforts.

In the end gambling is entertainment, so it's not really value being added.

No way you can generate money with it, unless you are the one providing it.
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