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1161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you willing to bet $50 spin for a chance to win $42 million? on: January 07, 2024, 06:09:05 PM
This thread is inspired by the thread created by sportsbet.io about a lucky bettor who won $42 million on a $50 spin.

So let's discuss. This kind of win can be compelete considered based on luck, and the winner is so lucky that he hit the Jackpot. However, since the goal here is $42 million and you can only win that if you would bet $50 for one spin. So, do you have the courage to do that?

If I can afford it, and don't mind losing $50 why not. after all, the rewards provided are many times the capital we spend per bet. the point is, we have to be willing and sincere if we lose $50 in just one spin. as you said, the problem is that getting a reward or jackpot from this round is very small. I mean, the probability that we have is very slim. even though it is random, only the luckiest people will ultimately get this good fortune. let's imagine, let's just say that there are thousands or hundreds of people who are doing it and are interested in some kind of challenge like this. so, what are the chances we have of getting this jackpot. to be sure, the possibility is very small.

Honestly, I don't know what kind you share on this page. however, with fantastic rewards, of course many gamblers are interested in taking on this challenge. especially, for those who think that $50 is a trivial matter. hence, they can do it many times when they want. just like the lottery, not a few people risk a large bankroll just for one ticket. even though they are well aware, the ratio of losses is greater than the potential we can win. however, in reality I would be more interested in betting on something I like. for example football, at least the chance of winning is greater than throwing away $50 in just one spin. however, that doesn't mean I'm not interested. because after all, the reward is what is attractive. It's just that, I will involve my wisdom in the bets I make. if I win in my other bet, and the value is quite large. maybe I can try my luck with one spin. the rest, comes back to betting that I understand.
1162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 07, 2024, 05:39:17 PM
I have come across Local gamblers who are addicted to gambling and had ruined their selves by themselves til they ran bankrupt yet they borrows money to gamble at all means even While being indebted.
Theses sets of gamblers doesn't have remorse nor conscience about their gambling lifestyles instead their friends and relatives are the ones who bears the shameful consequences the addicted gambler brought to their circle of relationships.
At the virtue of getting the unbearable situations to an end, the relatives broadcasts the chronic addicted gambler at all costs of gambling boards never to give him privileges to gamble in any of the Gambling arenas anymore else they (the relatives) would sue the gambling boards owner.
This is just how recklessness could mess your life of you can't take control to gamble responsibly.

Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.

Let me share a little experience, I have a close friend, he is a good person, we even have the same passion for gambling. we often gamble together, and in the same place. in our city, roulette and baccarat were the most popular forms of gambling, including the ancient slot machines at that time. my friend is a rich man, he has a lot of property and business. as time went by, fiat online gambling emerged. I focused on fixing myself, my friend stuck with his gambling. in short, he spent all the assets he owned, including his property, at the gambling table. and finally, he owed money here and there. the point is, the story is almost the same as this thread. in the end, it was his family who shouldered all the debt problems.

however there are points that I disagree with what you say in this thread. I will quote him, "Theses sets of gamblers don't have remorse nor conscience about their gambling lifestyles". so, before we judge someone, it would be better if we got to know them better first. because there are many factors that cause it, apart from habits. there are many who regret what they did, but they have difficulty helping themselves to be free from their addiction. I hear many stories, tales, even in our community. in fact, they need help. apart from what I said, also with the contents of this thread, the one who is most responsible is ourselves. because, we ourselves allow ourselves to have no boundaries in this enjoyable entertainment. so it is important to remember and apply that responsibility is the most important part. we can be stuck in the past, or for some of us who are still having difficulty dealing with addiction. the important point is, have self-control, be responsible and learn from experience. make gambling part of your enjoyable entertainment, no need to be afraid of addiction. because, in fact, we all have self-control that we are born with. the problem is, do we want to get used to it and discipline it? if so, we will automatically only play according to the portion we can afford. apart from that, we will not involve our family in the hobbies we enjoy. so, the answer is simple, we are free because we are not harming anyone.
1163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why do people always play gambling even if they always lose? on: January 07, 2024, 02:15:27 PM
I always hear stories of friends who always lose playing online gambling. I don't know what his purpose to tell his story to me. even it's clear, his story makes him look stupid.

Besides that, in another place, Many young people around to me still play slot gambling even don't have a job and always lose. I wonder where they get the money for deposits? and why they repeat that?. I don't know what the reason reason that doesn't bother them, they should have given up, and changed the game that makes them profitable. if I always lose in the game, I will change the type of game, example If I always lose on a slot, I will change the type of game like sports betting until my capital is back and try the luck again to the slot.


When we gamble for the first time, before that we don't have a broad understanding and experience about gambling, usually things like what you say are something that usually happens. moreover, for beginner gamblers, including young people. the peak, when someone finds the answer to their own gambling. that's where someone will choose to stop, or regulate their gambling. well, we have previously discussed it in several threads regarding phenomena like what you said. there are many factors that make this happen, in general, cognitive dissonance, Dopamine, endropine, play an important role in humans, including someone who likes gambling. I can't explain it in detail and correctly, because clearly this is not my area of ​​expertise.

In short, if I observe the surrounding environment and including myself, many of us think that by gambling we can make money quickly. meaning, we hope to win big in the gambling sessions we do. even though most of us lose when gambling, our passionate curiosity makes us want to play again. rrying to find our luck, maybe this time we win. this cycle can be repeated many times, eventually becoming a habit and ending in becoming an addict. which is unique, based on my previous experience. there are always ways for us to gamble, even though previously we didn't have any money. this applies to one of the points that is your question. well, don't misinterpret it, just like you did. sometimes someone who always loses in one game will try another game. whether it's still a slot game, or any kind of gambling provided by the casino. and this is normal.
Regarding the title of this thread, "why do people always play gambling even if they always lose?" the answer is relative and very varied. we cannot generalize to every gambler. for example, there are those who really do it with the idea of ​​entertainment, there are also quite a few gamblers who just want to fulfill their gambling desires. and nothing else, they are part of the addicts.
1164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Use your winning responsibly on: January 07, 2024, 11:28:45 AM
Congratulations on what you won and at the same time what you want, I like the way you use the money you get from your gambling winnings. you use it well and according to what you want, but more ideally and wisely, use it for something we need, not what we want. therefore, it will be more useful. theoretically, managing money doesn't have to come from gambling. and IMO, try to make things like this a habit. but it is very clear that the habits we adopt lead to something positive. likewise with gambling, before we play of course we have to spend money in our pocket to carry out a gambling session. we don't always lose and we don't always get abundant profits. not infrequently, we exceed the maximum limit we can afford in gambling and end up losing a lot. and vice versa, when luck is really on our side. the victory we can obtain exceeds the expectations in our minds. and this is gambling, winning and losing will come and go.

At this point too, we must get used to disciplining ourselves. we don't always win at gambling because it is uncertain, so try not to force it if luck is not on our side. on the other hand, our gambling doesn't always end in defeat, there are times when we will get something unexpected. if luck is on our side, whatever game we play makes it easy for us to win. apart from that, most gamblers always want to double their initial bankroll. even though, it's not uncommon for us to play, the game gives us wins even if it's only a little. but because we feel we are lacking, in the end we always continue the game. the final result, depends on our luck. well, so as you say. I just want to quote a few sentences that you said, namely, be responsible for the policies that we have.
1165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 07, 2024, 12:17:12 AM
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I had the same thought. But what they need to do first is eliminate Ten Hag because he has spent a lot of money for nothing. If there is no change in coach, then he will continue to make the same blunders and there will be no such thing as a major overhaul. Man United does have some great players, but up to this moment, it seems that they do not have strong synergy and chemistry, so it will be difficult for Man United to achieve good results.

I want to ask, out of curiosity. well, how much money does Ten Hag spend in vain on some of its players, or am I the one who misread the information? as far as I know, United only has a limited budget because they have received FFP sanctions. last summer, United couldn't spend much on the players they wanted in the transfer market, because United was subject to Financial Fair Play restrictions and that caused the Glazers to only spend limited funds. if I'm wrong, please correct me. apart from that, United's problems are not only Ten Hag's fault, but this team is having problems as a whole. starting from the failure of the club's acquisition, Glazer did not intend to pay his debt so that United's burden would not be so heavy. several players were injured, and fatally, the injured were the main players. plus, the conflict between players and coaches has again worsened the Red Devil's situation. starting with Antony who was in trouble regarding a legal case, Sancho who was banned from playing, a storm of injuries hit them again. some players are undisciplined and selfish, there is no good cooperation in the games they play. also, various other problems occurred in the United camp.

I feel sorry for Ten Hag, in fact he has tried his best to get his team back on the right track. unfortunately, it is not easy, especially the problems in United's dressing room. if, Ten Hag is fired but no changes will occur in the United camp. whether in terms of players, management or any coach who replaces him, he will not succeed in making United much better. well, the problem that occurs at United is that there are no players who are respected as leaders. that's why this season United's performance has been a mess. but believe me, if in the end the United players recover from their injuries, especially Casemiro, he can be a role model for his teammates. at least, Ten Hag can re-implement the system he built last season. to find out, let's just follow future developments.
1166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 06, 2024, 11:39:40 PM
But a match is never a comparison of two teams being written on a piece of paper next to each other and then see who is going to win. It depends on the shape they are in on that day, which of the players can reach their maximum performance level, who is available at all because of injuries or health deficits otherwise, luck plays an important part in those games, too.

If it was the comparison on paper only, Manchester City would have won five Champions League titles by now and Sevilla would have won less Europa League titles by now.

Right, I agree with what you said. in football it is not only based on data and statistics. both on paper, and theoretically. in the end, the final result is determined when the match is held. moreover, the two teams only had two meetings to advance to the next phase, the team that is the most prepared and consistent has the potential to advance to the next round. however, if one of the players underperforms. or let's say one of them makes a mistake, then the result can have a big impact on the team.
for now, Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorite teams. however, when these two teams play the match, it is possible that they will be defeated by the Underdog team. there are many factors that cause this, it could be because several players are injured, tight schedules and luck.

Apart from that, there are other teams that are able to match the play of these two teams, one example could be Brigthon. the reason is, De Zerbi's squad always puts up fierce resistance when faced with teams that are above their level. it could also be that Galatasaray provides a tough competition for teams that are quite strong in this competition. or, AC Milan finds its playing rhythm in this competition and becomes a strong team again. in essence, as long as this competition has not yet reached its final stage, there are many possibilities that could happen. in fact, it is possible that Liverpool and Leverkusen will eventually collapse along the way.
1167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 06, 2024, 11:12:03 PM
I think the same as you to be honest, Girona are good indeed but I don't think it is enough to put them ahead till the end of the season. Girona have beaten Barcelona and Atletico Madrid so they definitely have good skills but these are not. They have the combination of young and good players in the team which is working very well for them. But I think the match that will decide the fate of La Liga is the match between them in February. Whoever wins this match will get the hold of the League. If this ends in a draw then I think Real Madrid will still win the league, to be honest.

Honestly, I thought the same before as you. however, so far, Girona has remained consistent in match after match. the only defeat they experienced when they hosted Real Madrid, could have been if Girona was not too confident at that time. however, after losing at home to Madrid, Girona returned to the real track by progressing with a positive trend. previously, Girona was able to overthrow Barcelona at Camp Nou. then, Girona also beat Atletico Madrid. so, there are only two teams left for Girona to beat so far in their 19 matches. in a few weeks after the competition resumes, Girona will face Real Sociedad. in the first meeting, the match between these two teams ended in a draw, in the second meeting Girona played as the home team. the moment they play at home, they won't waste it in overthrowing Real Sociedad. after that, Girona's tough challenge will be visiting Real Madrid's headquarters at Santiago Bernabeu.

This match could be a benchmark again for Girona, but it is not a matter of player depth between the two teams which actually has a gap. however, it prioritizes the consistency of Girona's performance itself. and one of Girona's advantages, Michel's squad does not have a busy schedule. at the same time, Girona players are quite productive in scoring goals. therefore, Real Madrid cannot underestimate Michel's squad. because they have learned a lot after overthrowing Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. in essence, with Girona's current development. they have a chance to continue competing at the top of the La Liga standings. if Madrid does not want its position to be disturbed by Girona, in the match between these two teams, Carlo Ancelotti's squad must prove again to Girona for the second time that Madrid is above Girona. well, to find out more for sure. let's just follow every development. in particular, ahead of this match, either Madrid or Girona will play the other teams first. well, it would be better if we just enjoy it, because moments of competition like this are very rare.
1168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 06, 2024, 10:29:27 PM
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 The competition is still far way to its end and Al-Hilal must be able to maintain their form till the very end because any slip in 2 matches would make Al-Nassr overtake them and that’s pretty possible because football is a game and has 90 minutes to play. I think the competition between both teams is really fierce and interesting and the fans loves this healthy competition, Al-Hilal shouldn't be too comfortable with their spot on the table cause they're just 2 loses away from losing their position. And any mistake could see that become a reality which is something the CR7 fans are really hoping for.

What if the opposite happened, Al Nassr slipped in his two matches. moreover, in the 19 matches they played, Al Nassr suffered three defeats. meanwhile, Al Hilal remained consistent without losing even though of the 19 matches they played, 2 of them ended in a draw. in terms of consistency, Al Hilal is superior to its competitors. after all, in football it is unique, the situation could happen otherwise. in the upcoming match, Al Nassr has the potential to slip when playing his game. especially, when these two teams meet again. if Al Nassr falls again, that means making Al Hilal more comfortable in his position.

So, so far we have only talked based on assumptions and speculation, we will really find out after these two teams play match after match. plus, the match between these two teams. from a player's perspective, Ronaldo will definitely always try to score as many goals as he can. on Al Hilal's side, Mitrovic will be increasingly challenged to stick closely to Ronaldo in terms of scoring goals. even, if Al Hilal continues to play its best game. it is possible that Mitrovic will take over the top scorer. well, the point is that we don't know anything other than waiting as these two teams play match after match. and what is certain, to reduce Al Hilal's points, Al Nassr must overthrow him at the next meeting. the rest, if Al Hilal slips in the match they are playing. in this way, Al Nassr's chances are getting bigger to overtake the position of its rival team. however, Al Hilal is well aware that they cannot relax their performance if they want to win this competition trophy.
1169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 06, 2024, 09:57:50 PM
Of course Todd Boehly wants to see Chelsea as King in the Premier League exactly what he saw in Manchester City and that is the reason why Todd Boehly prepares unlimited funds to achieve its targets unfortunately that hope has not been realized so far but yeah Chelsea still have time to change and build a team. Maybe Chelsea will pass this season without optimal achievement because building the team is not easy and the process is needed, I personally give a season again to see their performance somehow I thought Chelsea was a sleeping lion.


The problem is, there are differences between Chelsea and Manchester City when it comes to recruiting players or building a competitive squad. I don't even know which player stands out from Chelsea apart from Cole Palmer. last season, of all the players brought in by Tod Boehly, only Enzo was always consistent in his game. this season, he doesn't seem to stand out too much. or, I lack information because I rarely watch Chelsea matches this season. Chelsea's mistake was when Tod Boehly always interfered in bringing in or targeting the players they were after. supposedly, Tod should just sit back and let the sports director do the work. also, always involve the coach when they want to bring in the players they are after. let's look at their current squad, there are several players who were brought in from who knows where they came from. Tod should have involved the coach more in targeting the players he wanted. at least, the coach knows his team's shortcomings and brings in players who his team really needs. that's why so far Chelsea have had difficulty developing or improving their ranking, and how can Chelsea become like Manchester City. it's not just a matter of money, but choosing and bringing in the right players is the goal, and that's what City and Pep Guardiola are doing. meanwhile, Chelsea always targets players who have been targeted by other clubs first and Tod just follows the hype. but that doesn't mean Chelsea doesn't have depth in players, it's just that the absence of several injured players has made it difficult for Poche to explore as he wishes. apart from that, Poche did not give other players the opportunity to play even though the pure stickers they relied on always had difficulty scoring goals. currently, Chelsea is still in 10th place. if Poche is unable to bring Chelsea to finish in the top four. so be prepared, if Tod Boehly will kick Poche out of the Chelsea coaching chair.
1170  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 06, 2024, 09:10:33 PM
You are right, I think we can't blame Mbappe or a single player of PSG because they didn't get good results in the Champions League. We all know Mbappe is a good player and he will do his best for the team but he can't do everything by himself surely he needs to be in a good team and we should wait to see if Enrique can give him this chance or not because currently, Mbappe is in the good form. However, there is currently a high possibility for Mbappe to leave PSG during January, and this this case PSG should rely on other players instead of him.
Mbappe is one of the best football stars in the world and one of PSG's most important players, so PSG have high expectations from him. PSG have managed to keep a very talented player so far, no matter how talented Mbappe is we tend to forget that he is one and he will never play like 10. No matter how well a player performs in a team, if the rest of the team's players do not provide good support, then the team's performance will be null. Mbappe is performing well individually for PSG but all the other players in the team are not able to support Mbappe well due to which PSG is not getting good performance as a team. Mbappé has been heavily buzzed about outside the club in the transfer window ahead and chances are the buzz will come true.

Currently Mbappe has scored 18 goals in League 1, this is due to the support of his teammates as a team. I could even say that Enrique focuses more on Mbappe. naturally, apart from being a star player, Mbeppe is also an established player and very dangerous when in the opposing team's defensive area. as for the other players, namely his teammates, most of them have not yet reached their best performance or game. especially, for newcomers like Ramos and Kolo Muani. these two players are still unstable and have not yet reached the level of play that Luis Enrique wants as the architect of Paris Saint-Germain. currently, Enriue is rebuilding the PSG squad. we can see, several players have left PSG. now, they only bring in young players. the aim is none other than that, starting with young players who don't really have star names. I mean, not on the same level as Mbappe. which means, PSG's philosophy is starting to change, especially in the hands of Luis Enrique.

This season, there have been strong rumors that Mbappe will actually end his contract with PSG. it is even reported that this French star is willing to cancel his loyalty bonus from Paris Saint-Germain. so far, Enrique is directing PSG and is quite successful in Ligue 1. they are at the top of the standings, and are only 5 points behind the Nice team. however, in the Champions League, Luis Enrique's team is nothing compared to other top teams. this is only natural, considering that PSG is in the phase of rebuilding their squad and only has Mbappe as a big star at their club. if in the end Mbappe leaves, Enrique has prepared how he will handle his team. apart from that, PSG will look for the ideal player instead. the point is, IMO, PSG is not targeting the Chanpions League trophy. but at least, they will still maintain Ligue 1.
1171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 06, 2024, 08:33:44 PM
I have the same reaction as you. I mean Kane is world class who needs no introduction. His ability was just hidden by Spurs trophy drought. He is proving himself right now in the Bundesliga and he is currently the highest in all the top leagues combined in Europe.  I believe he will win a trophy this round if Leverkusen ends undefeated streak. Bayern's performance has been overshadowed by Leverkusen's performance right now But I don't think it will be long before they get on the top.

If Bayern does not win a trophy this season then I can't even imagine how he will be trolled at the end of the season.

Harry Kane has proven it, even now Kane is the top scorer in the Bundesliga. in his 15 matches, he has scored 21 goals.  who previously had a big difference from the Stuttgart striker, namely Serhou Guirassy. Kane was able to do his job very well, he was also able to contribute 5 assists. if we count other competitions, Kane has scored more or less 30 goals for Bayern Munich. even though Leverkusen is currently at the top of the Bundesliga standings, that doesn't mean Bayern will just let it go. after all, these two teams are only separated by 4 points. moreover, the Bundesliga still has a lot of matches left until the end of the season. plus, Bayern has one game postponed. apart from that, Kane's goal in leaving the Premier League is none other than to achieve his dream of winning various trophies and if possible, Kane can get a player award, whatever it may be. what is certain is that Kane's desire to win a trophy is very passionate and is his target.

By the way, whether it's successful or not, whether it's Harry Kane's ambition or Bayern Munich's target, they have a chance to do that. moreover, Bayern has a meeting with Xabi Alonso's squad at BayArena, Leverkusen's home ground. which means, Tuchel will not waste the momentum for his team to get full points when they visit Leverkusen's home ground. at the same time, Alonso must further strengthen his team if he doesn't want their ranking to be shifted by Bayern Munich in the future. for now, I still think that Bayern's chances of retaining the title in this league are quite big. except, if Leverkusen is able to overthrow Bayern in the meeting between these two teams later. but at least, so far the Bundesliga competition offers something different, especially in the competition for trophies.
1172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 06, 2024, 07:47:07 PM
Real Madrid is one team with very high players' quality. They've got more young stars and the club is seemingly promising as weeks and seasons go by. Real Madrid's team coordination is top notch, every player knows that they're meant to set the right build up to goals and so they play their specific roles to the best of their ability and leave the finishing work for the forward man.
The young stars are united and are very impressive competitively each passing game.

 Currently, they are a stable team and a manager would not really have a tough time handling the squad. They know what they're after and they know how to get it done adequately. This is part of an advantage to their growth and progress generally. One shouldn't be surprised that these team frequently wins trophies for themselves and won't stop winning too. They've got literally the best squad and management team currently and so they're very much good to go.

I will not deny what you said for Real Madrid, especially in the La Liga competition, yeah Real Madrid is in a convincing trend. in fact, Don Carlo was able to mix up his squad to be more productive even though they didn't have the pure stickers that were their mainstay. these young players contributed quite a lot when playing their matches in the Domestic League. even though they don't have a center forward to rely on, even though they actually have Joselu, Ancelotti prefers to play him on the bench. Madrid's front three players are very influential.
in fact, IMO, the system that Ancelotti implemented is no different from when Benzema was still in the Real Madrid squad. it''s just that for now, Don Carlo has changed the pattern for his team's squad. however, in terms of gameplay and system, there are no significant changes. we know that Ancelotti relies heavily on the Brazilian duo on the wings. while Bellingham, he became an attacking midfielder and at the same time positioned himself as a center forward. when the Brazilian duo has difficulty creating opportunities, these two players will shift more to the flanks and Bellingham is always their target man. that's why Bellingham has scored 13 goals in his 17 matches. Don Carlo implemented this strategy with a different style and characteristics. likewise, the midfielders they have are no less good and always make a contribution.

In La Liga, Madrid rarely experiences significant obstacles, but the competition they will face will be different from the teams competing in La Liga. which means Madrid cannot underestimate any team that is their opponent, including RB Leipzig. let's just say that Madrid can beat Leipzig either home or away. after that, maybe Madrid will face a pretty tough team. for example, Bayern Munich, or City. and these two teams have the chance to overthrow Real Madrid if they meet. at the same time, a real test for Real Madrid's young players when facing other established teams.
1173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: January 06, 2024, 06:48:52 PM
It is difficult to detect addiction consciously as long as they have not really lost everything, their family or their wealth, usually when gamblers really feel lonely and have lost all their wealth then they realize that they have come a long way, when you become a gambler you should make it a habit to continue to maintain communication with your family and friends. friends to always avoid gambling addiction.

IMO, it all comes back to each individual and how they understand their gambling activities. in fact, there are many gamblers who are very aware that they have fallen into the category of gambling addicts. usually they will analyze how far they play, how intensely they gamble. and how much money they have spent, and not necessarily specific or based on the loss of many of their possessions or property they previously owned. it's enough just to be aware of the extent to which we are involved in gambling itself. if we always take time to think or play even when we are busy at work, it is very likely that we are classified as gambling addicts. anyway, there's nothing wrong with the first point you said. in fact, we agree with it.


To be honest, gambling addiction is very difficult to cure, that's why all friends here are always warned that never become addicted to gambling, it's best to limit your budget and time for gambling so you don't gamble beyond the limit which ultimately leads to losing everything and ending up sad, we rarely realizing that we ourselves are addicted, so it's best to always maintain relationships with our family because they are the ones who will help us get out of this addiction in the end.

May be yes, maybe no. but in most cases, what you say represents the facts that mostly happen to gambling addicts. moreover, if someone does not have a broad understanding and does not want to be introspective about their gambling. that's why, many gambling addict victims have difficulty curing their addiction. many have also used various methods, including entering rehabilitation. however, not a few also return to gamble. for me, it all depends on how we utilize gambling itself. in other words, a person can ask themselves what they are really looking for from gambling. the answer, will be very diverse and varied. the point is, we as gamblers must know the essence of gambling itself for us. if you want to get money, or wealth, then the answer is to work or do business. but if we just do it with the idea of ​​having fun, regardless of winning or losing. we won't bother looking for a loan just to fulfill a high desire. avoiding addiction is quite difficult, complicated but not completely so. ideally, we should have boundaries to act as reminders when we get carried away by mood or emotions. and if you can, never get into the habit of looking for loans just to gamble.
1174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not everyone deserves to hear of your winning in gambling. on: January 06, 2024, 05:12:30 PM
Every story you tell someone can either be a motivation or something to get them depressed. I have been thinking about this and I'd like to pass this advice to every serious gambler in this platform who has won a substantial amount of money from gambling, not to share their success story about winning to everyone and in every place. You do not know the story of every gambler, and on the face some gamblers may just look alright but in deep down they are in debt, some depressed due to addiction to gambling that is destroying them and has made them plan to quit. Your success story when shared indiscriminately may trigger and motivate this addicted gambler battling to stop to want to keep gambling, having the believe that their time is close. Be careful who and where you talk about your success in gambling, you may just be encouraging an addicted gambler to continue.

Interesting, I'm trying to understand your intent and purpose. but maybe you forgot, that we are here on a gambling discussion board. we cannot prevent or prohibit someone from creating threads according to their wishes, the most important thing is not to violate the rules within the community. in our discussions in the community, everyone can tell stories about their gambling, whether it's about their wins, tips, tricks and even their losses. we can exchange information, knowledge and insights as material for our discussions. but, I really understand the intent and purpose of this discussion. none other than, so that those who are addicted, especially those who want to end it, are not motivated to gamble again.

Well, actually the problem doesn't lie with us. suppose, I am the one who posts wins or successes in my gambling sessions. moreover, I posted a screenshot of a large number of wins. as long as you don't break the rules here, everything is fine. and the problem is, it is precisely those who are tempted to see other members' posts about their wins. they are unable to control themselves, even though they have the intention to stop gambling. especially those within our community. IMO, for me the answer or solution is quite simple regarding what you said in this thread. if, you, I, we, realized that we are very easily influenced by other people's posts of success or victory. the ideal option is, to avoid discussions that involve gambling. we ourselves are responsible for what we do, see and listen to. so one of the efforts to prevent it, we ourselves must be fully aware and avoid it. after all, the one who has the problem is ourselves. so, other people are not responsible for other gamblers' addictions.
1175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often do you win? on: January 06, 2024, 10:57:25 AM
From rising topics and lots of risk advise and content that has been shared in this section is enough for many of us to start leaning and put them into practice. Hence I understand that many people here often win or maybe twice a week or once a week maybe could be monthly, and I also believe that there are people who hardly make winning they can gamble for weeks and months without any possibility of winning at this point why don't we share our games.

Maybe anyone can decide to share his game and let those interested to should pick and play on their favorite gambling site, with this help we all can win together, the most important thing should be that everyone understand the gambling rules and for that can only bet with whatever they can afford to lose. If any game is posted by any reputable user here that does not mean that such person is 100% correct and hence shouldn't go bet with their entire life savings, the point is we should be able to carry this mindset that whatever may happen at the point of betting we might win or lose.

I'm trying to understand the essence of what you're saying, but not the title of this thread. there are several points in the content of your post that make me confused, and a little ambiguous. especially at the point of distributing games and letting those who are interested choose and play on their favorite gambling site, with this help we can win together. at this point, I'm not getting anything that I can understand. forgive me, if I am wrong in interpreting it. so here it is, it needs to be understood. basically, gambling always involves luck, and that's why we bet.
for example, if you, we, I, already knew that every bet we would win, would it be interesting? if so, it's no longer called gambling. gambling always contains risks, I'm sure you also understand that very well. this type of entertainment is very expensive, because we have to spend capital to play it. however, there are things that are interesting and fun if we can get the essence according to our own version. whatever site you use or favourite, it makes no difference in the gambling session. most importantly, the casino can be held accountable, has a license and a reputation and credibility. however, when you start playing, you are betting on your own luck. whatever recommendations we say, tips, tricks, it's useless if it doesn't benefit someone. especially, if it cannot be understood.

For me, there are two differences in my gambling, depending on which one I want to play. for example, if the game involves pure luck, then I wouldn't expect to win anything over the top. because these thoughts will interfere with our enjoyment of the game session. play according to your portion, if you lose, you lose, if you win, enjoy it, it's that simple. in certain phases, there is the potential to get big hits depending on your luck when playing it.
On the other hand, things are different when I bet on sports. in this gambling session, I don't really involve luck. because, there are variables that I have to do before I choose a match that I will be involved in betting on. in this process, we can involve the insights we have, experience, knowledge, techniques, analysis and research. after all that process, we hand everything over to the team that will compete. and believe it or not, as long as I do it correctly without involving and taking sides with one of the competing teams, then I will wisely choose the ideal option for me. and usually, I often win even though my version of gambling is with a small bankroll. the point is, someone can process and how to respond to their gambling. if you keep losing, especially for weeks or months, then there is something wrong with someone's gambling.
1176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online or offline gambling which is more safer? on: January 06, 2024, 09:36:26 AM
Even though offline looks safer, I still choose online gambling. the reason is because I am used to this and it is very easy to play with no place. wherever I am I can gamble. If we gamble offline we have to come to a certain place. I think the issue of security is the same. unless they are a large casino that has been around for a long time, otherwise they are difficult to trust whether they are truly honest in their casino or there is fraud.

Even though it looks safe, it doesn't mean it's safe in the true sense of the word. safe means free from anything that could hinder, harm or so on, especially with the theme we are discussing in this thread. basically, nothing is truly safe in the truest sense. so it's like this, when we visit a casino, be it offline or online, nothing is truly safe. safe in the sense that we are fully aware that we are risking something whatever the type of game. the most common risk, we lose in a betting session. risks that must be avoided, becoming a gambling addict. in fact, everyone has different ways and perceptions about gambling, whether it's offline gambling or online casinos. everything is connected to our own thoughts, and how we handle them.
before online casinos appeared, offline gambling was the most popular among gambling lovers. in fact, some are willing to come from far away places just to visit a gambling house to fulfill their desires. just imagine, apart from trying to travel long distances, usually we will prepare money with the bankroll that we have prepared beforehand. except for rich people, they can do anything according to their mood at any time. before the rise of online casinos, gambling addicts already existed and were normal.

Well, now let's discuss the online casino side. posted previously, I have mentioned the efficiency side of online casinos apart from their convenience for us. the question is, which is safer than offline or online gambling. for me it's the same, there's no significant difference. I can explain it according to my own opinion, but it's useless because every gambler has a different perspective. what I want to emphasize is, we are currently in the digital era. from traditional, offline, land-based gambling and it's time to become an online casino. nothing is truly safe, because we are aware and know very well that we are playing to bet. regarding other aspects, it all depends on how we look at it and how we make it as safe as possible. at least, we don't become gambling addicts. and this is an ideal and safe condition for us gamblers.
1177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 05, 2024, 11:32:08 PM
I really remember Alonso's words when interviewed, he doesn't expect Leverkusen to win any trophies (Bundesliga or European League) but he really hopes that in every match that Leverkusen plays, they will perform optimally and come out as winners. I think Leverkusen really haven't been beaten since this season's European League started, that's really an extraordinary achievement and will definitely make people not believe in that achievement. Having Alonso in the team is luck for Leverkusen, Leverkusen is a candidate team to win the European League this season.

That's why I like Xabi Alonso's character, he is a humble coach and he doesn't even care about being proud of what he has presented to the club and Leverkusen so far. I also remember when Xabi was linked with Real Madrid as a strong candidate to become Carlo Ancelotti's successor, but he said that he did not feel worthy to handle a club as big as Real Madrid. it would be very natural if there were many who respect and appreciate Xabi Alonso. as we know, so far Leverkusen has been able to play its matches with a positive trend without even losing. in this competition, Leverkusen achieved perfect points without losing. every match they play can be played impressively. In fact, Alonso doesn't always play his full starting eleven when his team plays matches in the group phase.

For me, Xabi Alonso's success so far wouldn't be complete if he didn't win one of the trophies in this season. at the very least, this competition could be a place to win a title for Alonso and his squad. because in the Bundesliga the challenges are quite difficult, tough and very challenging. it's not impossible that Leverkusen can do it, but the problem is that Bayern won't let them progress smoothly. likewise in this competition, even though Leverkusen is one of the strong challengers to win the trophy. but in fact, there are several teams that are as strong as Leverkusen. but if I had to choose one of the teams competing in the Europa League, Leverkusen would be my main choice. apart from that, I also appreciate the Leveskusen players who were able to perform very impressively. they play solidly, and prioritize teamwork. strong determination, and has a unique system. and there are no other words, other than we are waiting for this league to be rolled out again, especially after the playoffs are held.
1178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 05, 2024, 11:02:29 PM
Talking about Manchester City's problems in the Champions League, I don't think they will have any problems because even though KDB was not there before, their dominance was maintained even we can see where in the group phase they can get perfect results with 6 wins without losing in the group phase which proves that their dominance is unstoppable even without the presence of KDB in the squad.

Now the Round of 16 we just need to wait for that and KDB and Haaland will definitely return to them especially the opponent is only Copenhagen which although they are quite troublesome but in terms of strength and experience of course Manchester City is better for now so I am quite confident in the strength that Manchester City has.

On paper, City shouldn't have any serious problems when they play against Copenhagen in the round of 16 of the Champions League. even though the first leg match was held at Copenhagen headquarters, the fact is that these two teams have quite a clear gap. we can refer to the betting market, even though it is temporary, City is far superior even though the match is played at Copenhagen's home ground. I don't know yet whether KDB has fully recovered, played or not, but City still has depth that is far above Copenhagen's level. after all, Pep will be more serious and play his core players in the Champions League. they will target full points, in order to smooth their steps. at least, in the second leg, City will play more relaxed if they beat Copenhagen, especially with a landslide score.

As for Copenhagen, I don't mean to underestimate this team. however, they had quite a difficult time playing their match in the Group A phase. If Bayern had played seriously at that time and targeted full points, perhaps the situation would have been different for Copenhagen. however, despite being an underdog team.  However, Copenhagen will work hard when they play their match against Manchester City later. and what's interesting is, after the round of 16 match. in this phase, the match will be more serious because the team that passes certainly has the potential to make it difficult for City to advance to the next stage.
But still, I still have great faith.  if City plays its full core of players, and Pep implements his signature pattern. whichever team is the opponent, it will be difficult to match and provide resistance to City in the next meeting. in this phase, the Champions League will be more exciting and tense.
1179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 05, 2024, 10:35:47 PM
Harry Kane is a world class player, one that would adapt to any League he moves to, he started with a tough league and I believe that's why it was easy to him to pick up after one or two matches and begin to bag in goals like he does in the EPL, even though Kane had gone to Laliga, maybe playing for Barcelona or Realmadrid I think he would've still remain the Harry Kane he is, a skillfull and versatile striker that's always ready to convert the right pass into a goal.

 His presence alone changed the atmosphere for them, because ever since their former top 9 Lewandowski left they couldn't rely on Chupo-Moting and Muller in that position and Mane wasn't really helpful that's why the was sold. But the presence of Kane changed everything, he didn't even take too long  before he started impressing the fans and turned into one of their favorite. Harry Kane is already succeeding in Munich and the number of goals he's scored is a prove for that, hopefully he'll achieve a silver with them this season to completely seal the success.

That's why Thomas Tuchel insists on wanting Harry Kane from Spurs and is willing to bring him in at a fantastic price. it has been proven that Kane has shown his capacity as an established striker who has a world class level. Kane proved that it didn't take long for him to adapt to Bayern Munich. Kane has contributed 21 goals in his 15 matches in the Bundeliga, he has also provided five assists for his teammates. there would be nothing wrong if Bayern brought him in, and because of that, Bayern Munich's performance would improve. in fact, a player of Kane's level will be able to adapt to playing in the league he can play in. whether it's Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid, even if he chooses Manchester United. in fact, there are several strikers who are able to adapt quickly when moving to another club. but not many players are able to do it in as short a time as possible. however, because our discussion in this post is on Harry Kane, now Kane has filled the void left by Lewandowski, and he is playing happily and seems happy with his new team and teammates.

Just imagine, if Kane had achieved stronger bonds and closer chemistry between fellow players and even coaches. Munich will be a strong team, especially if Tuchel strengthens his defense. not only are they targeting to defend the Bundesliga title, but they also have the potential to become strong and dangerous competitors in the Champions League. and if this comes true, then this will be the most beautiful gift for Harry Kane with Bayern Munich. but what is certain is that their mission has not yet reached its final stage. because, this competition is still continuing. the task of Kane and his colleagues is to play as well as possible and shift Leverkusen at the top of the standings. plus, playing with high performance in the Champions League. to make this happen, Tuchel seems to need additional ammunition to strengthen his team's squad. so whether Bayern can do it, let's just enjoy every match they play.
1180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 05, 2024, 10:04:14 PM
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We don't know who will be the top scorer. Ronaldo is leading the top scorer now, but we don't know whether he will consistently in scoring goals until the end of the season. We don't forget that Mitrovic also compete for the top scorer status. Mitrovic already scored 17 goals, it is only 3 goals difference from Ronaldo's goals. I think Mitrovic is also the biggest candidate to win the top scorer status.

People will always care about anything Ronaldo does. If he becomes the top scorer and leads Al Nassr to win the trophy, people will be very enthusiastic about the achievement got by Ronaldo. Ronaldo has many fans around the world, the fans will always care with Ronaldo's achievement in any competition of football. He may score more than 30 goals this season


However, this hope has the potential to be dashed for Ronaldo fans all over the world, if in the end Ronaldo is unable to bring Al Nassr to present the Saudi Pro League trophy plus the top scorer belongs to his rival Mitrovic. in this thread, it is very likely that almost most of them are Ronaldo fans, because Ronaldo is always the best-selling theme in every discussion in the Saudi Professional League thread. to be honest, I am a neutral supporter for this competition. the point is, I only enjoy matches that are interesting and crucial for me. the rest, I don't really follow the development of the lower middle teams. currently, the Saudi Pro League has presented 19 matches and Al Hilal is perched at the top of the standings.
meanwhile, Al Nassr is in the runner up position with a difference of seven points from Al Hilal. 7 points adrift of the top of the standings, this must be a strong motivation for Ronald and his colleagues to keep Al Nassr on the right track. apart from that, if Ronaldo cares about the competition for top scorers, Ronaldo automatically has to prove his capacity as a sharp player even though he is no longer young. after all, Ronaldo has a lot of support from his teammates. there are Sadio Mane, Talisca, Brozovic, and several other players. in terms of quality, Ronaldo gets special support from his teammates who have the ability to help him break into the opposing team's goal.

Apart from that, being 7 points behind doesn't have to discourage Ronaldo fans. after all, this competition still had a lot of matches left. and what is certain, overall Al Nassr will play on the right track. however, the rivals will not let their rivals get close to their points. which means, Jorge Jesus will try to ensure his squad stays on the winning track until they get closer to winning the trophy this season. likewise with Mitrovic, the Al Hilal center forward would be honored to compete with a star of Ronaldo's caliber. whether in terms of scoring goals, or bringing his team to win the League trophy. well, let's see how far these two teams compete and play their matches until the end of the season.
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