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1161  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: November 05, 2016, 07:51:20 AM
If i had a choice between gold or bitcoin i would go for bitcoin first because the price of bitcoin is going up faster than the gold second i can buy double the amount of gold with the bitcoin when invest it or just wait until the price of bitcoin goes up.

Simply, Bitcoin is more valuable than gold.
after thinking about it, both of them very well to be taken if it is a business problem. although gold is a long-term investment, but I think it can bring many benefits in the future. but bitcoin is also a long-term investment, but because many have merit, sometimes bitcoin users are also looking for a quick way to get double the bitcoin they got. so if possible, I will take both
Gold and bitcoin has different usage but they are both valuable, gold is physical but bitcoin is gold in the internet. When it comes to investment, it's all up to the decision of a certain investor to choose what fits for him and capital is one of the important basis for decision making.
1162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: November 05, 2016, 07:49:47 AM
No ,that's why it is prohibited under 18 of age .Kids should learn how to value money and not to spend on gambling .iF they put it on gambling or played gambling on under age surely  when they age at 18 they are the ones who got addicted to it.
It's prohibited but with bitcoin anything is possible, if kids have an idea about bitcoin it would be easy for them to gamble as gambling sites are not restricted when you try to access, no required information needed so it would be easy for them.

1163  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: November 05, 2016, 07:44:35 AM
We can invest bitcoin i think we can change the dream into reality very easily, we just need to buy bitcoin and then to hold it for so time tell the price of bitcoin increase to a good level and then we can sell it for securing a good profit.

To make your dream comes true, Bitcoin should become a centralized currency at all the places. I think most of people will agree with this and expect this to happen soon. If bitcoin become centralized, We can start businesses which is related to bitcoins. I am sure, we people in the forum will get profited if it becomes centralized money.
Hopefully it will happen in the future that the price will substantially increase. By holding our bitcoins is way of showing our trust for the future of bitcoin and when the price will increase a significant amount we will make big profits. It would be easy if you have faith and you fully educated yourself on the potential of bitcoin.
1164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 05, 2016, 07:41:12 AM
The most amazing game for tonight was the Lakers vs Warriors game.

Lakers got a big win by defeating the warriors with a huge number, if they can continue to perform on their impressive performance they might be in the playoff for sure of maybe top the west.. I was so surprise they can do this to the warriors.

Public loses tonight because the line was a trap.
1165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: November 05, 2016, 07:36:44 AM
to get $50-$100 from casino is not impossible mate
its easy to reach if we do high bet and have big lucky
but if you feel your profit is enough, just quit it
play on long run sometimes will make us busted
It's good to have a long term goal in gambling because that would tell you to not to chase and you will always think that there's always tomorrow. Gambling should be treated like you are running a business so you will always be wise and clever and you will not let your business plan affected by your emotion when in down times.
I think rather than long term goals we must set some daily goals, like I would profit 0.005 and then stop no matter how lucky is the day and no matter how much is the temptation.
This way you at least will have some profits often while with a big goal you will loose daily winning too to get it.
You will just waste you time having that kind of small target profit in gambling, if you want money you should start with big money. I am quite sure in the long run you will get bored although you can consistently make that amount of money in a daily basis, remember that we are greedy by nature.
1166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: November 05, 2016, 07:32:24 AM
not just bitcoin is the future of online gambling, but the other altcoin is have the same opportunity like bitcoin. we can see that in many gambling site, we can make deposit with doge, ltc, dash, eth so i don't think that only bitcoin for the future of online gambling.
common people will not aware about altcoin existence.
they will only use bitcoin as too many confusing altcoin and not reliable too.
even some people still have a doubt in bitcoin , so i guess only bitcoin become the only cryptocurrency for future of online gambling.

Actually Bitcoin isn't really user-friendly and it was never meant to become something like this. Technically it's just a protoype.
So I doubt that mainsteram will ever use (only) Bitcoin and no other cryprocurrencies.

No actually to do gambling the Bitcoin is more user-friendly. That is why all gamblers prefer Bitcoin to use their gambling activities. And yes there are more cryptocurrencies are there in the market, but no one will become famous like Bitcoin. So I think in future this Bitcoin will rule the online gambling.
Exactly, we can choose different games from different gambling sites and that is the better way to enjoy. In addition the amount required to gamble is very low so we can enjoy more in gambling although we have only a limited amount of money.
1167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 05, 2016, 07:26:40 AM
In my opinion gambling becomes addiction because of if i have been losing it make me curious and that is make me addiction of gambling.
Gamblers are those people who are intelligent, you keep playing still despite of the reality that you always lose because you want to fin the method to win in gambling, and in a regular basis we want to try our new discovered method if it works or not.

Gambling makes our mind works and that can help to be active for a while.
What kinds of new method on gambling? I think you must show up, it will make good discussion because i don't know there are method for playing gambling. For me gambling is just for fun and entertainment and depend on my lucky.
I guess what he is trying to imply is that the method to accept loses so we can enjoy gambling in the long run as long as we have the money to gamble. Most gamblers do not accept loses so they lose more than they can afford to lose.
1168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: November 05, 2016, 07:24:34 AM
Chasing loses is not a really good idea when you are lose big then much better if you are not going to play and pushed to hard to just earn too much and win the profit again although yes it is easy to win but it easy to lose either if you are going to check don't idolize those veteran gambling that can really earn good profit.
But if you will not chase your losses you will simply loose more and more, I mean if you will not chase your losses then actually you have no motive and gambling without a motive would lead you nowhere.
If you have goal like I will dig up 0.1 from my loss and then stop, maybe that can help and also will make you less addictive, I think this way you can quit gambling too soon if you achieve your aims.

I agree, that chasing some goals are better than trying to recover complete loss because that's not possible at once and if you gamble with higher amounts just to get it back in one go, then chances are you may even lose that and that would be a double loss just to recover your single loss.
We usually resort to chasing bets when we rage in gambling, sometimes it happens when we lose big because we do not want to end our session losing. But if we do that all the time for sure our journey will end soon in gambling, it will be easy for us to wipe out our bankroll because we do not limit our bets.
1169  Economy / Economics / Re: What if US Dollar Crashes? on: November 05, 2016, 07:12:35 AM
You hear this all the time and yet a lot of the American allies are vested in the USD,even China is on board!
Hard to see this developing in a fashion where we are all standing with our hands on our head puzzled about what happened.
See a gradual decline but its just to inter linked with the economy to go south quick.

But lets say it does and we have a new super power or group I would presume running the world.
The USA has served a great role and without it I suspect a lot of issues getting out of hand like the parents have gone out for the night.
Who would fill that role? I do not see Russia wanting that role but China I could see wanting the power to run more of the world.
I bet on china this time as they are more capable than russia IMO. But, I cannot be more convince that dollar will crash soon, it's just a rumors that has no valid basis, I just consider it to be possible but with lesser chances.. let's just see what the future would bring.

I am confident that the dollar will not collapse, but all this is just rumors. Yes, I admit that in the US economy have problems. But these problems are not as important to talk about the collapse of
Dollar is a strong currency and probably it will continue to be dominate the international market. If the dollar will collapse there would be a major economic crisis and bitcoin will be hugely affected.
1170  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: November 05, 2016, 04:05:57 AM
Bitcoin is not beveling it is knowing, since its first appearance in 2008 bitcoin price has been going up and it will probably hit the 1000$ marks by the end of this year so if  you want to make easy money buy now and claim later.
In order to work with the money you need at least to believe what you wish. Assuming that all the positive forecasts will start running as early as this year, for 2017, we may see a new status cryptocurrency worldwide.


Just like what happened I am becoming more positive but what is happening now the price of bitcoin is some of kinda falling. But still I am believing in bitcoin, I hope that it can rise again and the price will get back to $743+. And if that happens for sure many of us here will going to get what they want and be happy for the bitcoins that they are holding.
Bitcoin definitely will return its position and will increase its value while increasing the number of bitcoin mining. After all, we know that the quantity is limited and therefore the price of bitcoin will soon go up anyway.
Higher price of bitcoin will depend on the user adoption, if more people start investing their money into it then no one can stop bitcoin in reaching to new heights and now bitcoin is gaining more attention from the people so we can expect 4 digit price in next year.

Maybe there are a lot of people who are now using and starting to adopt bitcoins as the price is keep on increasing. But as of now, it is kinda stable and that is a good thing for all of us. And if we are going to keep on believing for sure the price of bitcoin is going to increase and the profit we can get might have a chance to increase too.
Definitely we have more adopters as you can see it by the way the price move, when the price move which I believe not a manipulated movement, that means that the adoption rate has also increase, we should be happy as we are here to continue to make money on our ventures.
1171  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: November 05, 2016, 03:55:22 AM
Investing in other cryptos seems to be a very risky decision at the moment. In my opinion it's a good time to hold, considering the improvements that are being brought to bitcoin.

You may have a point here since people are dumping their coins right now because of high rate of bitcoin.But you may also think that there is also an opportunity here but just be vigilant and observed how low they can dump? After dumping, a real good coin will bounced back, and when you bought during the dump, you can gain profit after. But the question is, what coin to buy? Smiley
It is just a folish to wait for a dump as I don't think that now people will dump their coins you can notice that the price of bitcoin is increasing and in this situation everyone try to buy bitcoins as much as possible and at that situation the price of bitcoin only increases and do not decreases.


People will not prefer to dump their coins at this stage as they are aware that we are close to the year end and price will rise at that time so everyone will prefer to buy bitcoins and hold till the year end to make profits and if people continue to buy at a moment then it will certainly have positive impact on its price.
Usually in trading parlance, the close of the year is very risky because most of the traders will dump their bitcoins for some reason. One of reasons I know it that they will be spending it in holidays and some are due to superstitious belief.
1172  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you Still believe in Fiat? on: November 05, 2016, 03:52:54 AM
i believe in fiat in present time because bitcoin not approval by any government and we can not pay our bills through bitcoin and there is some company who do not accept bitcoin like as we can not pay our school fees or college fees with bitcoin because we still believe in fiat.

We believe in fiat because we are dependent on it for our day to day expenses as at a moment we cannot use bitcoins directly to buy anything or to make any bill payments and for that we need to exchange our bitcoins to fiat first and I think bitcoin will always be dependent on fiat too.
Nice powerful words for fiat, it's true we cannot live in this world without fiat so basically we believe in what will make us alive in this world. It is just a  means to live in this world but we can also use bitcoin as well, this two are good if it's part of our life.
1173  Economy / Services / Re: ★ Coinroll ★ Signature Campaign ★ on: November 05, 2016, 03:49:37 AM
excuse me, man. may i have a suggestion about preventing spamming? i am looking forward about the opinions. so you guys want to prevent spam, right? why not to increase the minimum symbol characters into around 100 or even 200? for that matter, you don't need to ditch the count of off topic posts. however would we need to increase the reward per post? that's a method to force spammers increase their quality of posts, right?

disclaimer: i wanna increase the quality of posting from the beginning, rather than all the way supporting SMAS.
Quantity does not equal to quality.  Spam is simply defined as noncontributing posts, which are not directly related to the length of a post.
Honestly, the first thing we have to do is filter out the non-English speakers that are unable to form a proper sentence.  (This is an ENGLISH-speaking forum)

Those -1 post entries are normal default entries to avoid mistakes. Since errors from when tracker campaign started, dev added this so at the start of crediting, it starts by making such a created entry before doing anything else for everyone. That way if credits are not processed for only some people it becomes very obvious to user (which might not be obvious to us otherwise, especially if it's only a few people at end of the queue, since without such a default entry, there would just be a few entries missing for that day and unless we counted manually entries for each day, we wouldn't notice a few missing one.) These entries make it easy to spot and easier to correct and reprocess failed credits

Dev added a lot of tracking/debug features since last issues and feature since the last problems. Tracker starting to become a really polished product. I got in touch with dev and issue will be looked into.

I got the error again today (4th time), please keep us updated!

i know, but people who has lower ability of English should be grown here so they can gain English skills faster. if we don't educate them English but filter them out, even if he she is not in any campaign, i believe it is a form of discrimination. manager is human to verify, but counter is a bot, after all. how about giving bounties of catching people who intentionally spam? would that a better choice to decrease spamming?

like what you have said, quantity does not mean quality, yet in fact quality doesn't mean quantity. for an example: people could post dozens or even hundreds of threads/replies in which all of the content in this situation are well organised, on topic, detailed, and constructive; they deserve rewards. right?
As far as I remember, there was already a ban that was happening in the past as announce by yahooo which makes the spots open but Namworld made it only limited for high rank members and trusted as well. I was actually hoping for  new opening in this campaign.
1174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 05, 2016, 03:42:57 AM
If you already win, don't play more or you will just end up losing. Control yourself from both winning and losing. Don't be greedy if you are winning. And control youself from betting more if your lossing. Also set a target profit everytime you play. A profit which is possible to obtain. That will help you to get greedy.
Me too, if I will win in gambling once I will be contented with it, because I really don't play because I just want to win, I just play because I want to just entertain myself.  Cheesy
I am not that greedy person, that I need to just wait my turn to win again and again.
But what is more important is to play for fun and to win at the same time, if we can have that in gambling I guess life would be easy. However, the reality will always happen that we cannot win in gambling so instead for forcing our goal we just have to enjoy it.
1175  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: November 05, 2016, 03:29:15 AM
I do revshares at the moment and a few other things so am trying to raise a little bitcoin to help move my coin along. I am hoping things will get better in this field of passive earning. So far got 3 passive income streams.

What is revshares can you let us know about it. Is it type of alt coin? Also you mentioned three passive income streams can you throw some light on those which are they and how much is the earning potential.


Revshares is somewhat kind of the same thing as paid-to-click sites but the fact that you must invest something first in revshare before you are going to earn. And it is just like someone is going to buy a booster for his ad, and once he bought and you are his referral then you will going to get profit out of that sale or if that is kinda confusing you can just simply google it.
Most of those turn out to be scams though, and the websites that offer this kind of program can be here one day and gone the next.  Sort of like  HYIP in disguise.
It's not a disguise because you can already tell when an investment will mostly likely to go scam, they have all the features like a HYIP and when you fall for the trap you will only earn in beginning but in the end you lose big, better be wise when in investing to avoid big loses.
1176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: November 05, 2016, 03:25:53 AM
yes i did, it was sick when i can stay away from gambling for 1 weeks than in the 8 days i try gamble again due i feel like something has lose in my life.
I think you are addicted already but not that kind of "out of control" because you can control yourself at this point maybe if you will never stop in just 1 week and every day you are in the casino, that's the time that you will be also called "out of control in gambling".
I didn't play gambling every day. I just gamble occasionally and that is fine for me even if I lose because I know how to manage my financial money.

Well I think your mind knows that gambling is missing in your life that's why you return to it, Because those are some symptoms of addiction as I see it, Because it is hard to stop when it is your habit to gamble. Just by you feeling sick by stopping shows that you are really addicted to it. What you need is rehabilitation in which it can try you to stop gambling permanently.
When you quit and you return, it's not always the addiction is the main reason. You will return because you are matured enough to understand the risk in gambling and you know you can control your self and you will be having fun unlike in the past.
1177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: November 05, 2016, 03:22:41 AM
To turn gambling into profitable, you must turn the house edge to your advantage. So one of the way is to invest in casino. In this way, when the players lose, you will have shared profits and the house edge will always make sure a lot of people are losing.
Which not always can be profitable. There is an experiment going on where someone invested in couple casino bankrolls - some of them instead of profit - generated losses instead.
There is no way to turn gambling into perfectly fine profitable activity - the only exception is matched betting. Other than than there are no shortcuts.
Some sites we have loses when investing but when you diversify it you will still end up profitable, for sure gambling sites win in the long run so it's just a matter of time and you cannot just get the success in investing in overnight.
1178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 05, 2016, 03:13:57 AM
In gambling everyone loses, i don't know any person that never lost in gambling, only thing you can do is to make your loses smaller, don't bet a lot of money anywhere
Yeah all of a gamblers experience losing. I don't know a person that is playing a gambling without loses right? And we just need to do is to control our self so that we can less our loses when we play gambling.
Well, make your defeat as experience with so you're bound to learn how to play a gamble with a good game, maybe so you can also get a safe technique that can make the gamble, because everyone has his own way to make a profit. so keep playing until you find it, even though people say there is no safe method
Learn from your mistakes and you will enjoy gambling in the long run, you should know what you can do to in gambling as this game is only for entertainment and if you gamble like the professional who aims money be sure you have all the requirements needed.
1179  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: November 05, 2016, 03:04:50 AM
Bitcoin is much safer and now also very easy to store. You can be robbed of cash, and that is not okay.
Bitcoin wallets are also excellent to use, and that is also critical for Bitcoin. And it is also free, so that is magnificent.

The best part of bitcoin is its anonymity, that even if you have millions of dollars no one would even come to know about it unless you tell someone yourself but if you have cash then they can be a threat for you in the world as anyone can try blackmailing you or doing something like that to get your money.

Methinks, if you have millions of dollars you could hardly remain anonymous even if you decided to enter Bitcoin with all your money up to the hilt. And it is not so much about keeping anonymity while having thousands of bitcoins, which is debatable itself, as spending these millions of dollars without leaving a trace when buying bitcoins, which is not very likely even if your millions are pure cash.
Actually bitcoin is more favorable to the rich so the government will not notice their spending or transaction using their money, when using cash the eyes of the government from the big spender is very hot due to the tax collectibles, in bitcoin there is no problem as there is no tax at all.
Because they are free to use it in illegal activities or having fun in the internet like gambling, with bitcoin they have more freedom to spend their money in the internet and that's make them more satisfied for having a financial freedom. With bitcoin, there's no limitation at all.
1180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 05, 2016, 03:00:32 AM

Yes, gambling can also ruin your relationship with your family and if you ignore it by not listening to their advice, you will not just lose your money but also your family. gambling is not wrong because its just a game or a way to entertain people its up to players how they treat it. without limitation can end up with addiction and that makes it wrong.


well definitely for me it is wrong. you can loose all your money (bitcoin) you work hard for, even family. a lot of people I know who played gambling everyday always says it was just a pass time. but its not. and later on they realize that they loose everything.

Always think of your family once they will be going to get affected of you addiction, all I know is that, family is more important than anyone, and even gambling is not important at all.
Sometimes we gamble because of our family and we know it's hard to win in gambling but still we are hoping we can win because we think that it's the easiest and fastest way to make money, the desperation to have a comfortable life or being rich in short is one of the main reason why we gamble for money.
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