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1161  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think Bottom is gone on: January 25, 2023, 12:50:36 PM
As we know there are no accurate predictions for bitcoin at this time too many are opinionated, and subject to speculation.
I think the lower value that we are waiting for has already been exceeded at 16k, I'm not sure it will reach below that more than, so far Bitcoin is still above 20k, I think this is better. and we can see the current situation is as there seems to be a force that is constantly pulling the bitcoin price up and down. So you have to be careful before deciding to enter the market.
Being careful is mandatory at all times, both for traders and for investors in the short term in order to keep their capital safe. But for investors who are investing long term in Bitcoin in particular I think there is no need to feel anxious or panic or even afraid of the corrections that still occur frequently in the market for Bitcoin as in yesterday's example.

Because a correction before the next increase is a very natural thing, and besides that Bitcoin also doesn't often stay stable at a certain price level for a long period of time, so those who invest in the long term must also be careful. And for now I even believe that Bitcoin will be more likely to increase than decrease because I see a small correction did not make Bitcoin drop below $ 20K now.
1162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 25, 2023, 05:43:03 AM
Everyone seems to have to admit that Napoli will win the Italian league this season, seeing that many of their competitors are unable to catch up, milan is playing badly and even conceding 4 goals against lazio and juventus lost 15 points, it seems that the title this season has been confirmed by Napoli and everyone has to admit that
It is indeed worth admitting that Napoli is a candidate who will get the title in Serie A this season. Because with a gap of 12 points from their rivals at this time, of course it will be very difficult for the rivals to catch up because the rivals need to hope for four defeats against Napoli in order to match Napoli's points. And that is something that is not easy to hope for, although it is not impossible to happen.

The Lazio team looked extraordinary at home this time where they were able to win a lot over AC Milan and make Lazio move up to 3rd place in the standings by beating Inter Milan and AS Roma even though the points are the same. This is really extraordinary for Lazio because they are still able to compete against strong opponents.
1163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 25, 2023, 05:13:00 AM
Previously, against Leipzig, they also got a draw and against Koln also got the same score as a draw, even though one additional point was enough to maintain Bayern's position at the top of the standings with 36 points. Meanwhile, Koln has climbed to 10th place in the standings with 21 points. I think Bayern need to change their game to be able to win in the next game.
This is very surprising and I don't even know what is happening with Bayern Munich drawing two matches after this break even though Bayern Munich can still maintain its position at the top of the table, but if Bayern Munich continues to draw like this and their rivals continue to win, then there is a possibility that the top position he currently occupies will be taken over by his rivals.

And for FC Cologne's ranking there is also the possibility of dropping again if Wender Bremen is able to win at home today. Although Wender Bremen's opponent in today's game is Union Berlin and it is also not an easy opponent for Wender Bremen.
1164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: January 25, 2023, 04:05:07 AM
I know about level and different competitive between Primer League and La Liga but can't be comparison thing, several time La Liga team success dominance than Primer League teams not only in Europe League but also in Champion League. Have difference atmosphere with Europe League competition and all teams want to get great achievement.
Who is to say you do not know about this? Did I discuss with you before on this one? Because yesterday I discussed this with @Rabi3 and I did not mention anyone about whether or not they know the level of the Premier League and La Liga. But this is actually not a problem because anyone can discuss it here even though with a slightly different tone. Ok this is Europa League and I was talking about Europa League with @Rabi3 and we didn't talk about Champions League because everyone knows how level Champions League is. So I'm not going to talk about the Champions League but only for the Europa League.

As I recall, Barcelona also failed in the Europa League last season, even though the chances are almost the same as this season and I think you know who won the Europa League title last season. If Barcelona is strong enough this season Barcelona should not be in the Europa League but in a competition that is greater than the Europa League.

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I don't sure with Primer League higher level than La Liga will make Barcelona loss compete against Manchester United at playoff round, seem Barcelona more favorite lead to next round than Manchester United based on domestic league achievement by both teams.
In the Premier League this season Arsenal have looked very consistent in winning matches and I don't think you have missed the Manchester United vs Arsenal match which took place three days ago either. It was clear that they played fiercely by scoring goals in the first half and also in the second half even though Arsenal benefited greatly from that match because Nketiah was able to score again in the 90th minute.

This means that Manchester United this season is better than last season so when they meet Barcelona in the Europa League, I think the match will also be more exciting and fierce because the strengths are almost the same and the chances of winning the game are not much different for the two.
1165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: January 24, 2023, 01:29:31 PM
with the current conditions Man United are better than Barcelona, but I still think that Barca could beat them in the 1st leg and It will be enough to qualify, keep in mind that the style of play is different and Man utd can find it difficult against Barca if they take control of the match.
The level of play in the Premier League and the level of play in the Spanish League is very different this season and I see the style of play in the Premier League looks a little faster than the players in the Spanish League and that will certainly make the match more exciting to watch because each team will run their strategy during the game. Because Barcelona will also find it difficult if Manchester United players are able to control the ball more.
1166  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving one third what you earn monthly is not that hard, isn't it ? on: January 24, 2023, 11:27:05 AM
It is true that saving from a third of the income we get from salary is necessary, but not all humans can or can do that, because the work environment or the surrounding environment also has an effect. And one of them is the matter of prestige in repaying a vehicle, so there is little possibility for that person to be able to set aside his income.
This means that the problem lies in the person's prestige and in the person's inability to stem the influence of the surrounding environment. Because a successful person forms his own mindset and is able to withstand influences from the environment that may not be good for him, he is a very extraordinary person, so he never has any prestige to do anything that can bring good benefits to himself.

Because there won't be any change if he still has prestige and can't adapt himself to the environment and stay away from things that might be bad for himself. So in essence there are still things that some people need to change if they want to save some of their salary for a better future, because no one else thinks about it except themselves.
1167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the bitcoin price continue to increase? on: January 24, 2023, 11:16:43 AM
So far we can only say what has been concluded from some of the analysis that has been seen from the graph of increasing and decreasing value in the market, currently what is happening in the market is still not very stable, basically prices are never stable, maybe the predictions obtained by Bitcoin will be staying above $20k till the end of this January, now the Little Bulls are still trying to pump up the price.
It is very likely that in the near future the market chart will continue to increase even though with a not so significant increase soaring upwards.
Now the Bitcoin price is starting to run in the $23K area with a small correction in the market, meaning that the Bitcoin price is now in a very good area and still has a chance for a better increase this month although I only believe that Bitcoin will end this January on $23K+ assuming no further correction in the near future. Because some people think that this year is the time for price improvement for Bitcoin before going to a real bull.
1168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: January 24, 2023, 10:50:24 AM
The major challenge that is causing Chelsea failure in this season is in the area of midfield because, since they removed the old midfielders and replaced with new ones has reduced Chelsea performance to zero level in this season. I guess, Chelsea can still get it right to improve in all their position to give their fans joy because, many people are not happy with their current performance. I believe they will beat Dortmund 2:0 to prepare the mind of people for a bigger victory.
It's still too early to predict the number of goals in the Chelsea vs Dortmund match, although it wouldn't be wrong to say it earlier because the match won't happen in the near future where both teams still have time to prepare themselves so they can be even better before the game Top 16 in the Champions League this season. Because Dortmund's appearance in the past two days in their domestic league also looked impressive with the victory that Dortmund got.
1169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: January 24, 2023, 10:13:08 AM
I didn't hear this. But that is the right of every racing team. I also don't know how the regulations that Dorna set out on this matter. But actually this is not a big problem. As long as the classification is met and still within the limits of the rules made I don't think it will put other racing teams at a disadvantage. Perhaps this is also because Ducati is releasing a new Aerodynamics for the season.
The spectators really consider this as normal and not a problem, but for each team that is developing new things in the tests and their developments are photographed by the media and then published through the media. In fact, this has provided an opportunity for other teams to copy it, so previously several manufacturers agreed not to allow media crews to enter certain areas of the circuit. Because they just want to develop things comfortably without anyone copying them before the season starts. And this has been posted by several local media that I read.
1170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Did you sell off during the 21k price breach. on: January 20, 2023, 09:32:20 AM
I did a little mate , yeah i sold half of my coin yesterday and yes also i am looking for opportunity to re enter buying when the bear comes back and I'm sure this is going to happen any time soon.
I don't wanna be rude here and i also don't wanna break your momentum but lets face the reality that this small bull is just here to stay low and will not going far for the time being.
Everyone has their own view of seeing the market momentum at the moment so the decision to sell coins like you did is also not the wrong decision to make because it certainly has very special reasons when you sell half of it. Likewise with other people who still maintain it and do not sell at all in conditions like now. This means that both are not wrong to do as long as it can still make someone feel comfortable and not become a problem in their life.
1171  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think Bottom is gone on: January 20, 2023, 09:17:13 AM
You can't expect bitcoin to go straight to 30k or 50k without any correction, even during the bull season, bitcoin will still correct a few times for stronger upside momentum. I don't predict that we are in a bull season, so if bitcoin goes down, I wouldn't be surprised either. But if you are expecting bitcoin to continue to rise, then you need not worry with such a drop of only a few %. In the short term, I think bitcoin will still rise and then fall again.
What you say makes a lot of sense because a slight correction for more increases has also occurred in the past, so it is also very possible that this year Bitcoin will correct in the short term before experiencing a much larger increase than the correction . And usually this moment is also very often used by investors to buy back before the next increase occurs in Bitcoin in the same year. I personally am still very optimistic about Bitcoin and will never doubt even if Bitcoin is being corrected.
1172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: January 20, 2023, 09:08:52 AM
Having a draw in their last match by Manchester united is still a good result, and shouldn't be used to judge their match with Barca. EPL is different and tougher than Laliga,which gives Manchester united  more advantage over Barca. It will be a difficult and interesting match,since it has been long since this two clubs clashed.
What's interesting is that the two teams, both Manchester United and Barcelona, are both experiencing an increase in performance in their respective leagues so that their full strength will definitely be seen in the Europa League matches this season and every coach from the two teams will also be very aware of this. they are facing is not a weak team and clearly needs more improvement before the game starts.
1173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: January 20, 2023, 08:57:02 AM
But the performance of the two teams in their respective leagues will be a reference for how likely they will play in the Champions League. We will definitely always see how their last performance is, and that is in their respective leagues. As far as I can see, there is always a difference between their performances in the league and in the Champions League, but it also depends on how they respond to matches in the Champions League. Motivated, it has to do its best here.
Chelsea in the domestic league has looked less consistent and is also not doing well, while Dortmund cannot be judged badly because the matches in the Bundesliga haven't started after the break even though it will work soon for today but not with the Dortmund team. And it could be that these two teams will look more balanced when they meet in the Champions League this season because usually the motivation for each team when competing in the Champions League is far greater than in their respective domestic leagues.
1174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 20, 2023, 07:50:11 AM
The first game after the break is not far away, and the first game we will see is the Leipzig vs Bayern Munich clash. Let's see how far they are prepared after this long break. This match will be held at the Red Bull Arena Leipzig, an advantage for the hosts because it is certain that they will have the full support of their supporters. Looking at the meeting record, Bayern Munich has the upper hand, but let's see what Leipzig can do in this match.
Bayern Munich are also better prepared to face Leipzig at the Red Bull Arena, because Bayern Munich themselves also want to see how they will perform after the break. Apart from that, Bayern Munich also wants full points in that match in order to widen the gap with Freiburg and also Leipzig, although the home team also has the opportunity to prevent Bayern Munich from getting points in that match.
1175  Economy / Economics / Re: Rich Mindset vs Poor Mindset : 6 key differences on: January 19, 2023, 03:03:58 PM
One distinction I've noticed over time between wealthy and poor people is that the latter are consumerists. They prefer to accumulate possessions in order to appear wealthier than they actually are. They will save money to boost their self-confidence by purchasing pricey apparel and accessories. However, those that are rich prioritize having money rather than appearing wealthy. They make an investment to do this. Contrary to poor people, wealthy people save money to invest rather than squander. They become wealthier through investing.
This is a very basic difference and is also very often seen by many people at this time, so that a poor person whose goal is to make his appearance look rich in the eyes of many people will still be poor in his life. Whereas for rich people who are still happier with a simple appearance, they will still be rich in their life by continuing to do every job that benefits them, as in the example you said, namely investing in some very good assets for their future.
1176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price with a 4 year cycle? on: January 19, 2023, 02:54:33 PM
yes as speculation and poll that has been collected in this Utas that people say yes that this cycle will work again to do the umpteenth time, so this is an inseparable faith by the crypto community and I must appreciate it
And it is still very reasonable for the crypto community to believe about the next cycle in Bitcoin because it has seen evidence of passing the previous two cycles every four years. So if speculation about the next cycle can really happen again, of course the crypto community, especially those who still hold Bitcoin, will be very happy and it can be a very big fortune in their life. So just pray that it can happen again in Bitcoin.
1177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: January 19, 2023, 02:42:49 PM
There were a number of rumors regarding the prohibition of media crews by Dorna Sports from seeing the Shakedown test in Sepang on 5 -7 February as stated by motorplusonlinedotcom. Because this was requested by the MotoGP team itself so that each manufacturer could not copy anything that was being developed by its rivals at that time.

But it wasn't long before reports emerged from local media saying that "After the 'controversy' caused by the decision to ban media from the Sepang Shakedown Test, five MotoGP manufacturers have now agreed to allow media onto the circuit, but not the pit lane."
1178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: January 19, 2023, 02:32:05 PM
The chance to win for Manchester City is indeed very big in this match, especially Tottenham after the world cup break this time really haven't created good conditions for them now.
But on the other hand, if the reality of this match says otherwise and Manchester City can't get 3 points, it doesn't mean they have lost the competition for the title. Chances will be increasingly difficult, that's for sure, but that's not the end because they can still keep trying, especially with the current conditions, the game is still very long.
This time, Manchester City will really try to win at home to Tottenham Hotspur, considering that their own number of points is the same as their eternal rival (Manchester United). So Manchester City will play their best in this match and will try not to make any mistakes in order to win, because the three points in this game are very important for Manchester City to stay in second place and can continue to close the point gap with Arsenal if In the next game Arsenal suffered defeat.
1179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 19, 2023, 01:26:22 PM
Unfortunately Bayern Munich is always looking for players at a young age, whereas if Sommer's age is over 30 years old, it is certain that Bayern Munich will not buy him. So far Bayern Munich has special characteristics, to make its players have special characteristics with a young age and very strong stamina so that it will make it difficult for opponents to beat.
It is part of the team's strategy and there is nothing wrong with continuing to implement it as long as it can have a very good impact on the team because the team's goal is to be very strong and be able to make it difficult for their opponents to beat them. So it is a very good thing for the Bayern Munich team to be able to continue to compete with other big teams in different competitions.
1180  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Start of a Bull Season on Bitcoin? Or a Trap? on: January 18, 2023, 11:33:01 PM
The Bitcoin price jumped from the ~$17k range to the ~$21k in the last 7 days. I'm not aware of any good news about Bitcoin, but the price seems moved so strongly, breaking its previous resistance.
There is no good news specifically for Bitcoin at this time, as well as recent bad news that also does not exist for Bitcoin so that Bitcoin is still able to maintain a price level that is much better than last year's decline. Even though currently the price of Bitcoin has also started to be under $ 21K again, I still think that the next increase can still occur in the near future for Bitcoin. Because in general there's been some good news coming out for the crypto space at the moment and it could definitely be a good leverage for Bitcoin right now.

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It could be because the next year halving, but it seems too early. If the trend continues, Bitcoin price will break ATH later this year so it does not make sense IMO. Therefore, I don't think the pump can be sustained for too long and the price will soon drop to the ~$19k range and then the ~$17k range again soon. But who knows...

What do you think?
Why do you say it's too early for the halving next year? I also don't think for ATH at the end of the year on Bitcoin, but it's not unreasonable that Bitcoin could be at a price level very close to ATH at the end of the year if the price increases outweigh the falls. Because the price resistance of Bitcoin this year will probably be so different from last year that I don't think Bitcoin will be at $19K or $17K anytime soon.
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