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2-3 months for them to start thinking about making litecoin FPGA, then how long will it take for them to actually make a prototype? Soon as in BFL "soon"?
I don't know, probably not very long. They don't need to make a prototype, they already build FPGA modules and have lots of FPGA products. Nothing would need to be custom built for LTC, they would simply program it. it is not "just needs to be programmed". Scrypt FPGA are physically different from sha FPGAs (or else you wouldn't even need enterpoint, just a programmer). I don't think you understand what a FPGA is, FPGA's are reprogrammable logic arrays. They can be programmed to perform any particular task. They are like rewriteable ASICS. Scrypt is just an algorithm, any general purpose computational device of sufficient power can be programmed to handle it. There are no "physical" requirements or differences between a FPGA that solves Scrypt or one that solves SHA. As for additional ram, they have PCI-E mounted boards meaning you could just use the host machines memory. now we are getting into hyperbole. can you make an FPGA for scrypt, yes. Would you pay $300 for a unit that gets 100kHs, no. It'sn not if it can but if anyone really woudl use them and if the cost to develop woudl return a profit. Using system RAM is like flying to Idaho because you want french fries. Or paris to buy a bottle of wine. Why would you when there are places much closer that can get it for your faster and cheaper. That is what GPUs were designed for. They are built with ASICs that directly access high bandwidth DDR. The demand for these boards is so high that they can make them in huge volume and keep costs down. You wan tot reinvent the wheel. Now it is possible to build an FPGA for scrypt mining. But it wont use system RAM or DDR. I've seen the prototype in a demonstration with a scrypt like algorithm on an Altera board. But the cost puts it on par with a GPU. But it is an undertaking and to hire a team of developers and build them out makes the profit marginal. Now with LTC less profitable than BTC to mine and with the low market cap of the market is it really worth it? |
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2-3 months for them to start thinking about making litecoin FPGA, then how long will it take for them to actually make a prototype? Soon as in BFL "soon"?
I don't know, probably not very long. They don't need to make a prototype, they already build FPGA modules and have lots of FPGA products. Nothing would need to be custom built for LTC, they would simply program it. DO they have any modules that have high amounts of SRAM or QDR? If not then its not going to happen. |
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I for one am enjoying this thread.
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so we have a pool before we have a coin.
thats a first.
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guy is kinda full of himself. not sure why this is commented out of the website but its in the html
<!--<h1 class="plan-price">$49</h1>-->
<!--<span class="muted">Current Trade Price 100 ELC / 1 LTC</span>-->
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hi i own a MSI Z77 MPower Mainboard, i5-3570K, ATI5870, 8GB RAM, SSD ... just a solid gaming rig with a lightly outdated GPU... without any long pre-story: i was thinking about buying 2 more 5870s but it's hard to find, so i decided to buy 3x 7950s but... what about this baby: http://www.nallatech.com/opencl-fpga-accelerator-cards.htmli can't find any price and sorry for this beginner-question, but how can i calculate a expected hashrate of the card? or how do i even KNOW if it will do his job? is it as easy as i hope, plugin, install drivers, install (or config) cgminer, rdy2go ? those are $6k to 12k per card |
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ah trying to keep the value of FRK up.
this is an interesting experiment.
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I did the ROI on all the 5000 6000 and 7000 series. The result was that the 7950s outperform the better cards based on dollar value. There is usually a market up by hardware manufactured for the best of breed models to offset that fewer people will choose them over cheaper cards. There are a few best of breed 6900s and 5900s that do very well at hashing rates per dollar but fail to provide a cost benefit to 7950's lower wattage
As to the resale value. I'm writing off depreciation of hardware assets so it somewhat offsets the loss when these cards go back on the market in about 18 months. Factoring depreciation (not expected resale value) 7950s still do better.
I keep up on the price changes and if and when 7970s break into the sweet spot of the cost value curve I'll start buying them. Until then 7950s all the way.
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Here is what I would do.
1) Set up some kind of document formally defining the ethical standards involved in creating an alt, prohibit all the various scam activities, the cloning, the pre-mineing etc. Sticky it and make it clear that violating these standards will have consequences.
2) Get major actors like exchanges, profitability calculators etc to agree to not adopt illegitimate coins.
3) Have a network of rapid-response pools ready to attack illegitimate coins and some means of alerting/focusing them immediately when the need arises, such as an IRC channel, an e-mail pool etc.
soooo... regulate? who will be in charge. a standards committee. will you elect a chairman? |
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Diamonds in the rough. You hav eot sifft through a lot of posts to find them. Kind of like mining... |
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I'm starting to get the idea that making a new coin is no longer a viable method of generating wealth.
no shit that is good that is EXACTLY what should happen. As long as the community realizes that it is burning resources on bad executions it will be more cautious about diverting resources away from BTC and LTC. new coins will have to have better campaigns to be accepted. what we need is a sub forum for new coin announcements where new posts are locked to anyone that has not submitted a formal proposal to move a coin forward. the coin would have to be approved in this forum through a poll of existing members. once it is in the sub forum it must be there a week before launch. It must have all of its details reported and cannot deviate in anyway from the original specs otherwise the devs get banned. What happened to free speech? I agree, that would be too much. it is still free speech. the coins could be discussed in a forum. everyone would have an opinion as to what the coin should be and whether traits should be added or removed. it would also provide devs constructive criticism as to their proposal for a new coin. it is much better than them releasing this into the wild with no thought whatsoever. when a coin is believed to be read a poll is done. if the poll reaches a consensus then it can move on. again free speech. you can vote yay or nay. once it is in the staging period it has 1 week to launch. this give pool operators time to set up and everyone can be ready if they choose to mine it. I don't see where the free speech is being overridden. |
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alright guys move back along to mining royalcoin/yacoin/whatever else, nothing to see here
400 orphans is my limit. Poor kids. OP why did you do that to them... |
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I'm starting to get the idea that making a new coin is no longer a viable method of generating wealth.
no shit that is good that is EXACTLY what should happen. As long as the community realizes that it is burning resources on bad executions it will be more cautious about diverting resources away from BTC and LTC. new coins will have to have better campaigns to be accepted. what we need is a sub forum for new coin announcements where new posts are locked to anyone that has not submitted a formal proposal to move a coin forward. the coin would have to be approved in this forum through a poll of existing members. once it is in the sub forum it must be there a week before launch. It must have all of its details reported and cannot deviate in anyway from the original specs otherwise the devs get banned. |
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Does anyone know how to reduce orphans?
89 transactions in my wallet, 0 coins :/
238 orphans and 0 coins. |
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