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11641  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Okex - One of the largests crypto exchange in the world is deslisting 50 coins on: October 29, 2018, 12:33:57 PM
no, this is just business!

they get paid to list these coins so they win because they make money
the ICO devs spend a tiny amount compared to what they are being paid to get their useless token be listed on some exchange so that they have a place to dump it and get the money out. so they win too.
users get a place so that they can dump or possibly participate in any possible pump and dump and make some profit so they win also.

when everyone is done making money and wants to move on to a new token they should get rid of the old one.
everyone is happy...


What you are describing is a Ponzi scheme (whoever came on the base of the pyramid is making money and the others on the top losing). It's a scam.

Everyone ia happy, except those who lost a lot of money.
This kind of"business" is forbidden in many places in the world. It is illegal in Brazil

They sell you something 100% useless, that the creators know is useless, promising to do a lot of things. But it's just a scam to get people's money.


Of course there are some projects that are not scam , they just didn't make what they want... But most of them are not that.
11642  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Okex - One of the largests crypto exchange in the world is deslisting 50 coins on: October 29, 2018, 12:01:28 PM
everything that is pumped should eventually be dumped.
during that pump these exchanges were adding dozens of altcoins at a time in a short period of time as they were being created then paid the exchanges to list their shitcoins.  but as I said this can not last forever. it will end at some point and when it does and the dumps kill the coin, there is no more volume hence no more profit for the exchange to keep these coins listed. everyone is done with them so they are delisted !!!

That's right, most of those exchanges charge to list a coin
They probably make a lot of money during those pumps, just to dump them now..

This is market manipulation.
11643  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Top 10 Cryptocurrency 2018 | Best Cryptocurrency Exchanges on: October 29, 2018, 11:25:19 AM
In general, the best cryptocurrencies are the top 10 in CMC (by market capitalization).

They are more valuable BECAUSE they are the best. They also have more money to pay for development.

However, due to high volatility, some of good projects are not in the top 10 now in CMC anymore. Such as IOTA and NEO.
11644  Other / Meta / Re: Alternative clients section on: October 29, 2018, 11:19:22 AM
I think your suggestion is good for organization, but the number of posts does not justify a new sections for all those wallets and subsections.

A breadwallet board  would have so few posts per year that it would be a dead board.

It is also hard for new legit users to find it. Sometimes people that doesn't have a bitcointalk account need to create a brand new to ask something technical. This user would have a hard time looking for the right section, and he would probably post in "Bitcoin technical support" or other more generic board.

It is even harder for posters, who will answer him, to find his topic and provide lots of replies from different users of the forum (which is good, as many different solutions pop up)_
11645  Local / Brasil / Re: BOLSONARO ELEITO NOVO PRESIDENTE DO BRASIL on: October 29, 2018, 11:15:03 AM
Agora o país toma jeito
IMO, em pouco tempo teremos uma quedar vertiginosa do dólar perante o real, o que vai refletir no preço do nosso bitico em reais
Eu mesmo desde a semana passada já venho liquidando parte das minhas participações

Olha realmente isso vai acontecer. Estão prevendo dólar perto da casa dos 3,00 e os mais otimistas ainda abaixo de 3,00. Poderiamos ver na casa dos 2 e muitos...

Porém, essas variações de 30-40% são pouco pro BTC. Se BTC volta a 10k, ou mesmo 15k 20k, essa variação cambial não tem grande importância.
11646  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Brazil Presidential Candidate Jair Bolsonaro Is Stabbed on: October 29, 2018, 10:48:38 AM
Bolsonaro was elected president yesterday, with 55% (its believed he had much more, like 70%, because the electronic ballot boxes are not reliable).
Brazil was in party yesterday, looked like a world cup final game.

I believe this will lead us to a new era, free from socialists from the worker's party (they were in power since 2002).

As I said in another post, his personality is similar to Trump, and people here compare both presidents.
They are also both nationalists and agains globalism.

I hope Brazil now willl approach free countries and stay away from Venezuela, Cuba and Angola.

It's terribly  sad to see our neighbors in Venezuela coming as refugees to Brazil, and at the same time see the Worker's Party making alliances with Maduro and even so managing to receive 45% of the votes (the got very close to get ellected again, with Lula in jail, the president of the party)
11647  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BRAZIL HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT: JAIR MESSIAS BOLSONARO on: October 29, 2018, 10:36:37 AM
Serious question, do people in Brazil think Trump is Facist?  Is it a small number of people that think this or is it a wide spread belief/assumption?

In Brazil, the biggest media players are all associated with the liberal media worldwide. Our biggest journals (like Globo, Epoca, Estadao, Folha de Sao Paulo) are basically all the same and they use as reference:

-The New York Times
-The Guardian
-The Economist (The Communist, as we call here in Brazil, because they support Lula)

And so on.... nobody says anything about FoxNews for example.

So yes, the media here in Brazil call Trump a fascist.

However, the social networks like Facebook, Tweeter, etc, are allowing us to have access to different point of views. So  I believe Trump is not that unpopular here. Most of the people who voted for Bolsonaro view Trump as an "American Bolsonaro".

I believe that now Brazil will get closer to US, as both presidents now have a similar personality and objectives (both are nationalists and against globalism)
11648  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: PoW vs PoS- Proof-of-Stake Might be the Winner here (Save the Environment) on: October 29, 2018, 09:58:22 AM
Plus which POW coin that had switched to POS had any success?

CLAM was a POW coin that switched to POS.

It's also POS based on POW.  The Clamcoin itself was 100% premined with POW, then distributed to BTC, LTC and DOGE addresses, and then POS was enabled.

It's not been overly successful though, but it hasn't been successfully attacked either.  You literally couldn't attack CLAM with all the computing power or fiat in the world today (maybe tomorrow after we all sold our shit to you and ran for the hills!  Grin Kiss)

DOGE, CLAM........

wtf man, wake up.

Do you want to compare bitcoin to those projects? Those networks are barely used.

Do you know how many transactions are made daily in bitcoin network, and how many are made daily in CLAM?
CLAM marketcap is 800 BTC, on rank 488. This means that the whole CLAM project, all CLAM coins, are worth 800 BTC.

CLAM is basicaly a testnet, to test crazy ideas. And that's it. a Dead coin.


Bitcoin needs to be more conservative. Bitcoin cannot risk those untested protocols, based in vague ideas like "Save the environment", or "Pos is the future", based on vague arguments.

If Bitcoin adopts PoS or any other fancy protocol and there is even a smallest problem, the whole market will crash so spectacularly and probably never bounce back.

So, go spread those ideas in Altcoins board. Bitcoin needs to develop itself slowly and safe.
11649  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Your Ideology Affects You what Tokens to Support? on: October 28, 2018, 11:28:09 PM
When I saw this topic, the first altcoin that came to my mind is Stellar.

Stellar says in its website

Stellar.org connects people to low-cost financial services to fight poverty and develop individual potential.

I believe this is the most "ideology" project I know.

However, Stellar founder is a former Ripple founder, Jed McCaleb.
Ripple would be a coin totally against that ideology?

I believe that buying and holding bitcoin is already an ideology act by itself, against the financial system.
11650  Economy / Trading Discussion / Okex - One of the largests crypto exchange in the world is deslisting 50 coins on: October 28, 2018, 10:37:41 PM

https://support.okex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018396732-Delisting-of-Trading-Pairs

Delisting of Trading Pairs
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    Thursday at 05:53 Created

Dear valued customers,

 To create a robust trading environment and offer the best trading experience to our users, we will delist several TRADING PAIRS with weak liquidity and trading volume according to the OKEx Token Delisting / Hiding Guideline. The affected tokens and trading pairs are as follows:


then comes a list with over 50 altcoins, which I don't know any.

Bad times to be a holder of those coins....

They explain, at the end of the document, that owning crypto is risky lol

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Please be reminded that trading digital assets involves significant risk and make sure you fully understand the mechanism and risk involved. You should always consider your investment ability and risk tolerance before entering the market.


Early this month Okex announced trading pairs with other Stable coins, like USDC and TrueUSD, which a good step. We are not so dependent on tether anymore.
11651  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which coins or tokens will be profitable within this month? on: October 28, 2018, 06:54:06 PM
In my totally unqualified opinion, the market correlation is strong between cryptocurrencies. All of them goes up and down at the same time, with very local exceptions.

I believe btc must recover before any big gains.
11652  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Lockbox Blockchain Hardware Wallet - Powered by Ledger! on: October 28, 2018, 06:45:17 PM
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The Blockchain Lockbox supports all of the same cryptocurrencies as the web interface. Currently, these include: bitcoin (BTC), ether (ETH), and bitcoin cash (BCH). With Lockbox, you can store, receive, send, and exchange all of these cryptocurrencies
wooo THREE whole cryptocurrencies!  Roll Eyes



Lol
Not a whole 3. Bitcoin cash cannot be called a whole cryptocurrency. It barely have a name of its own.

So that's what the countdown was for. I'm very disappointed. A Segwit support must've been much better.

The way I see it is that they are simply taking advantage of their platform to make more money because they have a lot of users.

They will have a shapeshift integration, like blockchain.com has. This way you can exchange coins inside your own wallet (sort of)
However shapeshift woll now demand kyc... So not so great..
11653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Most of the Icos are failing main reasons on: October 28, 2018, 06:34:13 PM
That's right, all of these are  reasons for the failing.

There are other ico that invest a lot in hype, try to appear they are going to make a lot of partnerships, and the Price goes up. Then later it just fail spectacularly.

In my experience, most of ico are just pump and dump... Of course there are many legit projects, but they are very few
11654  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: wallet securing !! on: October 28, 2018, 11:20:47 AM

which one is the best wallet in these all wallets , which one provides high security ??  
i just want to know about high secured wallet ..

For newbies, hardware wallet is the best and most secure choice.

A paperwallet or an airgapped pc are definitely safe Wallets if you know what you are doing.

As you probably don't know exactly how to do them, just buy a hardware wallet, it's worth.

Mobile and desktop are somewhat aafe and if you keep your seeds in a piece of paper offline, you are ok.
11655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mastering Ethereum by Andreas M. Antonopoulos and Gavin Wood on: October 27, 2018, 06:22:32 PM
I didn't read this book and I wouldn't. I have to say that I was disappointed with Andreas when I saw this book. After his great book "Mastering Bitcoin" and after his defending the case of bitcoin so vigorously, why would he go into Ethereum at all? What does Ethereum have to offer over Bitcoin? Maybe it was about the money, who knows.

This makes no sense. This is not a competition. Both coins can coexist. If someone likes bitcoin, it doesn't mean he can't support ethereum as well.
11656  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Mastering Ethereum by Andreas M. Antonopoulos and Gavin Wood on: October 27, 2018, 05:02:06 PM


I have just found that you can read Mastering Ethereum,  by Andreas M. Antonopoulos and Gavin Wood, for free on their official github.

https://github.com/ethereumbook/ethereumbook

Below, the first page of the book, defining Ethereum as a "world computer".

This is a book for everyone who loves cryptocurrencies and altcoins. Maybe even interesting for those who only care about bitcoin, as bitcoin may also adapt and adopt some of these functions in the future.



What Is Ethereum?

Ethereum is often described as "the world computer.” But what does that mean? Let’s start with a computer science–focused description, and then try to decipher that with a more practical analysis of Ethereum’s capabilities and characteristics, while comparing it to Bitcoin and other decentralized information exchange platforms (or "blockchains" for short).

From a computer science perspective, Ethereum is a deterministic but practically unbounded state machine, consisting of a globally accessible singleton state and a virtual machine that applies changes to that state.

From a more practical perspective, Ethereum is an open source, globally decentralized computing infrastructure that executes programs called smart contracts. It uses a blockchain to synchronize and store the system’s state changes, along with a cryptocurrency called ether to meter and constrain execution resource costs.

The Ethereum platform enables developers to build powerful decentralized applications with built-in economic functions. While providing high availability, auditability, transparency, and neutrality, it also reduces or eliminates censorship and reduces certain counterparty risks.
11657  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How is a day of a crypto trader? on: October 27, 2018, 12:34:12 PM
When do you start trading? Do you look at the screen and read all the time? And if it's not too private, can you estimate how many percentages of profit you earn a day? ...

I think that daytrading is very stressful, and you will look at the screen many times a day.

A longer run like a swing trade will be much less stressful, but less lucrative.
11658  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: PoW vs PoS- Proof-of-Stake Might be the Winner here (Save the Environment) on: October 27, 2018, 12:27:29 PM
@OP don't take it personally , atfirst i thought PoS is better than PoW , but the consequences are bit more harsh.

PoS is more Shit than PoW

Proof of Stake prompts centralization, with more awful outcomes than PoW

It would be ideal if you let me introduce this by saying PoS is a specialized enhancement past PoW. It enables the system to utilize altogether less assets in mining. This is great since it doesn't require the vitality necessities of a little nation to keep up the system.

So, when it connects with this present reality and financial matters it is no superior to Proof of Work.

Proof of Work depends on a numbers session of who has the most hashing force while proof of stake depends on a measurably reasonable round of whoever has the most crypto. Every ostensible unit of coin has parallel chances to be picked for its wallet to be the following mineworker. One stipulation of PoS, be that as it may, is that the wallet must be on the web. To be on the web, it requires assets (hardware, electricity, and internet connection). Assets have a true expense. Because of the reality PoS doesn't expect you to battle with hashing power, the vitality cost and hardware costs don't ascend with chances of being mined the following square (the mining lottery).

Along these lines, bigger stakes, have a less expensive expense to mine than littler stakes. To delineate this reality, envision you have a PC in your home with 1 ETH and your neighbor has an indistinguishable PC setup in his home however with 2 ETH. The vitality requires to run the two setups are actually the equivalent and the overhead hardware are the equivalent so the expense to run every one of your mining activities is the equivalent. In any case, your neighbor has 2x chances you do since he has 2x more ETH. Since each square will offer a similar mining reward paying little heed to your stake estimate, the normal esteem (odds*payout) for every unit of ETH is the equivalent, you and your neighbor both have the equivalent expected EV. In any case, in light of the fact that those machines have an expense to run, their profitabilities are unique. Your neighbor has 1/2 the expense for every unit of generation, as you.

Given the way that the bigger stake holder winds up with a bigger net revenue, as a normal financial specialist, he would keep a greater amount of the mined ETH to expand his generation capacity. So a bigger stake holder would develop his ETH stake quicker than a littler stake holder.

After a point, the expense of being a piece of the mining task would be too high with respect to the payout for little stake holders and they would reasonably drop out of the mining business, taking their wallets disconnected.

This prompts centralization of mining and the rich get more extravagant, quicker.

The option would be for littler stake holders to gather as one and move the majority of their wallets to a focal administration at that point share all mined ETH and running expenses as it would diminish the per unit cost of the activity.

This is called economies of scale. We saw this right off the bat in Bitcoin. The distinction with Proof of Stake is that it would require the majority of the littler holders to put their stakes in a similar area. This makes a helplessness not exclusively to hacking yet to outside jurisdictional power, for example, direction, tax collection, and so forth.

So one way or alternate, PoS will prompt centralization a similar way PoW does because of economies of scale. While it ends up diminishing the vitality cost to run the foundation of the system to a small amount of what PoW requires, it winds up presenting a lot of new hazard which cryptos aren't intended to deal with (i.e. outside direction and jurisdictional control).

This text is a plagiarism from:
https://unblock.net/cryptocurrency-consensus-algorithms/

He just changed identical words like "home" to "house" and imagine with "envision"
11659  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Ledger Will Let You Trade Crypto for Crypto on: October 27, 2018, 12:25:06 PM
They had integration with Shapeshift, like Coinomi.

This integration was amazing, even better on coinomi, as anyone could trade between different cryptocurrencies very easy, fast and without any KYC verification, and inside your own wallet.

Can you elaborate on this a little? The article states that the Lockbox wallet will support "support bitcoin, ethereum, and bitcoin cash". How can it support trading between a variety of cryptocurrencies if it only supports three (and no sane person would want to trade BCH anyway). Is it literally just BTC/ETH trading only, or is there more to it than the article suggests?

I just googled about it, I found this (it really looks like a ledger nano wallet):

https://www.blockchain.com/lockbox



The Blockchain Lockbox supports all of the same cryptocurrencies as the web interface. Currently, these include: bitcoin (BTC), ether (ETH), and bitcoin cash (BCH). With Lockbox, you can store, receive, send, and exchange all of these cryptocurrencies.

They will only supports those 3 coins as you said, just like blockchain.com/info wallet does.
Its shapeshift integration only support the exchange between these 3 coins, no ERC20 an no other... Even thought shapeshift supports lots of others.

Coinomi wallet supports a lot more (i think all supported by shapeshift).
11660  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Ledger Will Let You Trade Crypto for Crypto on: October 26, 2018, 10:15:21 PM
It looks and sounds like a dumbed down version of a Ledger Nano.

It only works with Blockchain.com.


I used a few months ago a blockchain.info wallet, which is the same as .com now.

They had integration with Shapeshift, like Coinomi.

This integration was amazing, even better on coinomi, as anyone could trade between different cryptocurrencies very easy, fast and without any KYC verification, and inside your own wallet.

I think this kind of integration could be easily done with Ledger Live and any other shapeshift-like service.

However, Shapeshift is now demanding KYC, so I hope they get some other partnership.

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https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/shapeshift-will-now-require-basic-personal-details-new-membership-program/

ShapeShift Will Now Require “Basic Personal Details” for New Membership Program
The digital asset platform plans to make AML/KYC mandatory for all later this year.

This is probably the future for many services, but if we can avoid it using other services, better.
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