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11641  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: August 24, 2016, 09:57:24 AM
When i was new to bitcoin i also thought bitcoin can make me really rich and its really easy to earn money with it with some tricks or cloud mining stuffs.But soon i realised that all these easy investements are scam and there is no easy money so i dont plan to get rich with bitcoin right now and it provides me useful extra income with helps me alot and thats enough for me.

I think giving up on your dream to become rich just because of some bumps like being scammed by ponzi or hyip is a poor attitude. You do not give up on it. You learn from your mistakes and try again. Not all investment are scams. There are those who really provide good service and can make you money. You just need to learn how to spot them. Bitcoin can provide a lot of opportunity to make you rich, you just need to find them.
That's true, if we give me that means we do not have a chance to be rich, no matter what happen to us we should be firm with our goal to be rich investing in bitcoin or any method you will think that is bitcoin related. We are in the community where more people are sharing good ideas so we need to apply that in real life and do not let your fear control you in reaching your dreams.
11642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 24, 2016, 09:54:52 AM
who will win the next Nba:

Golden State Warriors 1,85
Cleveland Cavaliers    4
San Antonio Spurs     10
Boston Celtics            20
LA Clippers               25
New York Knics         30
Oklahoma City Thunder 30
Toronto Raptors           35
Indiana Pacers             45






I am convinced that this year will win Golden State


I think the golden state warriors will win also but how in the world can you bet it at those odds? the season is so long and anything can happen with
injury and stuff. Also warriors lost all their depth and minute grinders. its gonna be a little harder than i think people realize
I would choose the san antonio spurs in that situation. I don't want to go with the public when in gambling as public loses most of the time. It has been my method to use in gambling where it is effective if we fade the public all the time and since warriors are a public play I would not be on them.
11643  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: August 24, 2016, 09:51:07 AM
Nope, i can't do this cause it's not accepted in my country and all i can do is online shopping but i don't like to buy stuff online so i am not using bitcoins actively.
i cannot do that too unfortunately though i hope that in the near future there will be way more bitcoin shops that will allow me to do that
Also yeah I'm not too Often in spend bitcoin on offline. yeah of course with the same problem. I hope bitcoin could be accepted again in the future and I hope in the near future start popping merchants who accept bitcoin. but I always try to Transact with bitcoin in online


Well, as a bitcoin supporters I would be happy if that will realize in the future. With continuous support of bitcoin it will be globally accepted by the people who sees the benefits in using it, and more and more businesses will be willing to accept bitcoins as they see some opportunity to increase their profit.
11644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 24, 2016, 09:42:43 AM
i think it depend  on your way of playing gambling, if you have no limit and play gambling with all your investment at one time and every time you faces lost then it is really wrong for you, but if you have a limit and you play gambling up to the limit you can bare then gambling is not wrong for you.
yes if you have the control in your gambling habits and can limit yourself from gambling more aften loosing or even winning then gambling can be alot fun and gambling is not wrong gambling addiction is wrong and which depends only on the person to control himself and you cant say gambling wrong.
True we have to restrict ourselves in order not to become addicted to betting and harm us. Very dangerous if we have been very addicted to gambling and certainly will affect our lives. So long as gambling has a limit was not wrong.
And as long as we enjoy doing it it would be a good form of entertainment, this can be wrong for people who are greedy in gambling as they will make this gambling as their way to earn money rather than working hard to make money. If your gambling hobbies will not be properly manage you will face trouble in the end.
11645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 24, 2016, 09:31:57 AM
Just gambling that you expert or at least good on it, for the example like me, i'm good and know at sports betting. So i only gamble on sports betting and so far it's the easiest one to earn a profit on gambling.

yeah i am agree with you. i think sports betting is include in easy gambling, because if know about the team and we know almost everything about the team, not just one team but almost half of all team, then its good to play sports betting and we can make our predictions work and win with easy on that sports betting.
Sports betting is my game and I am having fun doing it, though sometimes I lose big but I can guarantee you it's a different level of entertainment you can get in sports betting, if you can master your method you can make profit but I would not say it is easy.
11646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 24, 2016, 09:13:12 AM
Well not exactly rich, but definitely getting something from betting certain sports like MLB, eSports (especially Dota 2 and CS:GO) and sometimes, tennis. As long as I can, I avoid luck-based games like dice and slots and just stick to what game/s I know a lot about.

I think this type of sports betting also depends on luck, although it is a strategy and knowledge greater role, let alone bet on eSports like dota2 and CS GO, it may be easier to predict than football and it's purely about knowledge.
every gambling games are need luck , and become rich with gambling is possible , but only in very few case it's happened. gambling are more popular as a fast way to become poor instead rich. as if you gamble in the long run you would never have a chance to beat the house edge.
yes it is possible to become rich, but if you have lots of money to bet. but if you do not have a lot of money and expect to become rich from gambling it will obviously be difficult to achieve. at least need a good strategy and great luck.
someone who have a lot of money wouldn't stop and call themselves rich enough once they won $100,000 when they have trillions dollar , this is the human nature , the journey to become rich would never end , unless you have nothing left to bet which it's bad.
There are people who are easily satisfied with their money but I certain that gamblers cannot be easily satisfied so they will still gamble even though they have won a lot of money already, without a goal we will lose in gambling as timing is very important to bag a profit.
11647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What stuff you buy when you win gambling? on: August 24, 2016, 08:58:39 AM
i am not buy anything because i am not win so much, its only small amount that only me that can use that money. maybe i will buy with my other earning from trading or other online business. i want to buy wallet for my mom from my trading so i think my moms will be happy with this gift.
That's a good way of honoring your mother who conceived you on this planet, and we can buy rare items online if your moms loves to collect rare items and I am pretty sure she would be happy. On the other hand, since you are earning that would already be a great help to your mother in terms of finance.
11648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: August 24, 2016, 07:32:12 AM
I see no difference between trading and gambling. I think the only difference is the time frame. In gambling, you can get your results in an instant. While in trading, you can wait for days/weeks before you sell your coin. The instant of you selling your coins in trading will decide if you get profit and how much or you get less than what you've invested. Nevertheless, trading would always be better than gambling because you can do tons of research first about a coin before you invest on it.
I see somehow there is a similarity in trading and gambling because there are gambling games can be studied or research to gain some knowledge that can be useful for you to get the advantage, and I am saying sports betting gives you that opportunity. In addition, sports betting provide a leverage for the bettors to do sports arbitrage which has no risk which will guarantee you a win everytime.

Yeah but how can dice be researched and studied? Its pretty much basic probability. Only method that doesn't quite work well is martingale and usually leaves most gamblers with no BTC after they hit a huge losing streak.

Sport betting is the only game that you could study the probabilities of such games. With that you could lessen the risk and would win that bet but dont forget that you also need luck in able to win because no matter how good your team is but luck doesnt  support you then its a sure lose. Dice is a matter of luck game and martingale is busted  already for a long time which is not ideal to use already.
Let us take dice the picture because it is hard to compare dice against trading. Sports betting and trading has a similarity as sports betting can be called like sports investing sometimes, I am pretty sure you guys here of betfair for sports arbitrage.
11649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Earning Gambling Site? on: August 24, 2016, 07:27:31 AM
Gambling can be profit, but if you gambling for long run, it will be a problem. Because you will be greedy and want win more. I think it's better you use some strategy like don't gambling again when you reach your target.

But before reaching that target amount don't know how much money one need to spend in gambling and recover those loses people again start gambling so it is never ending process. If you want earn some profits then it is better to find some other ways to grow your money and spend money in gambling to get entertainment.

They already have spent to a point that it is impossible for them to redeem their losses, unless they strike huge jackpot like lottery. Even though, it will take around 10 lifetime to hit a jackpot once. So these people that has gamble so much that is part of their habit.
It could be a problem for those people who has a bad habit in gambling, I am pretty sure they are already losers as of now. But I commend those people who are making big money in gambling with continuous gambling but I am uncertain if I can find one here.
11650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 24, 2016, 07:21:34 AM
If I have much money,I still played gambling,but not looking for profit .I will play with lowest stake.
The activity like chat with others,or play chat game is more fun I think

That's good if you are not into profit when gambling, but for sure, gambling is always after your money...  Grin It might end up doing the same when you are rich... As much as possible I think it is much better if you have money you should avoid gambling sites specially if you know to your self that it became a part of your life...  Smiley
If you do not have the capacity to control yourself then you are not illegible to gamble even though you are rich. The more money you have the more money you lose or at risk. Gambling is well played if you do it with discipline and I am pretty sure you will be satisfied with the entertainment you get.
11651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: August 24, 2016, 07:15:40 AM
because Im stupid, back to gambling after lose is stupid action, just wasting my money, my time and my energy. now i stop gambling and focus to other real project
You are not stupid, and I think you are a greedy person. So you lost also you came back and played gambling. Your reason to return must be either to make a profit or to earn back your loss in gambling. Because of this two reasons, you came back. But finally took decision, stopped gambling so how's your life now?


Don't say to yourself that you are a stupid you just really can't help yourself at first to come back again and again with gambling. And it is one of the hardest enemy to fight for, the addiction of gambling. But good to know now that you are now in good path and you are now more focus to something that is for real.

some people need to stop gambling, because they are not exactly in control of their habits. it is different for each person, some are getting too excited and emotional when it comes to gambling so they lose control over their funds and overdo it so they end up losing more every day.

I agree with you especially when they are on losing streak they tend to feel worst and wants to play again and again until they are going to get winning.
That is really a true problem for addicted gamblers. And their emotion is dragging them back to gamble again they can't just accept the fact that if they lose they want to recover their losses.
Most problem of gamblers is we do not want to stop with a big lose, we want to chase our bets or go all in just to take back the loses that we have not notice anymore that we are letting our emotions control us in the game.
11652  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 24, 2016, 06:53:02 AM
we must calculate each scenario, we must have 2nd plan if our investment failed or our bussines fail.
so we must spread our money for saving and investment, not all plan will running smoothly, so we must save our money too.
If we have a good amount of savings it will take care us when our investment fails, in investment it is not always that our expectations will be realize although we have seen a great investment that has a good potential to be successful that would give us money.

A back up plan is always good to rise again and continue the journey.
11653  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: August 24, 2016, 06:48:00 AM
I have a big plan and my plan is very simple which is holding bitcoin for a long period of time. Right now, I am slowly filling up my investment and I buy most of the time especially when the price is cheap, it is not necessary that I need to spend all my earning in investing but most of it are save for the future of bitcoin.
11654  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: August 24, 2016, 06:44:10 AM
Signature and avatar campaign is the best way to earn money on bitcointalk, please visit this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0
you can try it ! But I think that with your activity you can not do much.

He is already a member now so I think he can earn a good amount of money if his demand is not that big, actually for a signature campaign considered as a way to earn money that is already a blessing on our stay here but we cannot just focus on that as there are more opportunities here that we can earn bigger.
11655  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 24, 2016, 06:39:27 AM
iam choose both, gold is longterm investment because value posistion gold is equal dollar
in fast growth money iam choose bitcoin
bitcoin is a long term investment either and it can make you some really good money in my opinion

agree with you, bitcoin is long term investment, maybe after 10years we will know the real rate of bitcoin, im sure in future the price of bitcoin can be $1000 again Smiley
so better we keep our bitcoin at bitcoin paper wallet for future reference.
for long-term gold may be safer, because it is definitely. while bitcoin has an uncertain future.
so all this is just the confidence and trust someone to bitcoin. so I think bitcoin grow better than you buy many bitcoin for the future.
but the long-term investment in bitcoin could also be more profitable when the price was rising very high. so do both quite well.
For me, it depends on the amount of money you have right now, if you have a decent amount of money you choose gold because that is too expensive investment but it guarantees you profit as back by the history of profitability but if you only have a little amount and you are a risk taker bitcoin is good for you.
yeah it depends on your financial condition at the moment and your courage to use or wear that risk. true what you say. I think if you just have a slightly better capital you invest in bitcoin. because you're more likely to get a big profit despite small capital


Well, that would be possible to earn good profit despite of the small capital but you need to wait for a long period of time. Bitcoin is the most stable coin now in the crypto currency and since it has a good volume the price will not skyrocket that easy unless something insane happen with the demand of supply.
11656  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: August 24, 2016, 06:35:14 AM
I buy bitcoins because I hope and believe it has huge potential to change many industries in our daily life and therefore it's value can rise to an unimaginable dimension. Furthermore I buy to spend it although this is compared to the hodling very small.

That is the good thing in investing in bitcoin as the price has no limit when it will rise due to the fact that the supply is only limited but when this become successful the demand will always increase, it is good to ride with the current cheap price so we can see some good profit in the future.
11657  Economy / Services / Re: [Free Service] Divination future telling on: August 24, 2016, 06:20:06 AM
I wanna try, I am male and my birth date is December 27, 1994. Can you tell me about my future. I will tell you if you are right. Please no more joking, I want a serious answer, I might give you a tip if I am happy with my future.
11658  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 24, 2016, 06:16:04 AM
I am only currently earning a little from signature campaign and would not consider giving up my day job for what I make with bitcoin. And with bitcoin's price being volatile, it's a little hard to go consider going full time on it. It's a great form of extra income and investment and I would still continue to do this as long as my day job isn't taking up too much of my time.

Earning from signature campaign is not enough for us to make a living... Actually it would consume most of our time if it is the only source of our income... We should have an alternative or as much as possible we should have atleast a good job that pays bitcoin equal to our salary in our day job or more, if it is lesser than that, I think that won't be enough to go full time in it...  Smiley
Absolutely right, depending your income in signature campaign is not a good idea, it is just something that will give us a little amount of money to spend on our wants, our needs should be catered by our job which we earn a bigger salary base on the cost of living in a certain area where we live

Well it is going to be insufficient if you are going to hope for your earnings with signature campaign. But if you are in a signature campaign and you are doing other sources of income as well as trading, mining and buying and selling of goods. Then that is going to be a good time to shift full time with bitcoin if it gives you better income with your job.
It is easy to quit your full time job if you are receiving a good amount of money in bitcoin and in order to receive that amount through working you need to have the skills to do some kind of programming job or coding, or you will be a full time for trading as it would provide you a consistent income once you know the techniques.
11659  Economy / Services / Re: Rent my signature (looking for sportsbook, daily payments) on: August 24, 2016, 03:31:50 AM
There is no sports book who paid daily here, some of them paid on a month basis. Apparently, only yobit is paying on a daily basis but unfortunately they are not accepting new entrants for now. I hope you can find a better signature campaign and check on this section,, there are still many who are accepting.
11660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: August 23, 2016, 01:27:01 PM
IMO gambling is gambling as long as it's purely depending on luck and no support for it on other aspects "knowing methods of trading, best methods and ways to earn, specific market analysis", if the trader doesn't know these then it's merely gambling.
Nicely said, because when we are gambling most likely we are just reliance in our luck but when we are in trading we could do pure gambling which is not researching and investing which is a more positive approve as we will take effort to get the necessary information to analyze the market movement well.
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