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11761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 16, 2015, 11:09:34 PM
OK, so I don't know if this is OT or not but here goes.

What's your opinions on BTC next stable price? I will have to be buying in again and obviously want to grab BTC as low as possible as it's nothing more than a vehicle to XMR for me.

I am very curious as to how many monero holders take this stance. Are you "All in" or do you hold some xbt?

I know it's heresy to ask how much btc deep these "all in"ers (or anyone) are as it infers approximate xmr holdings, but my curiosity begs the question still.

I don't believe in BTC and won't even be bothered to call it XBT as most of the world doesn't know or even care what XBT means and barely knows what BTC means. I think it's retarded to try to rename something that is just getting a foothold in peoples mind. But I think XBT (happy?) will be gone in under a decade as the Blockchain will (If it hasn't already) be completely mapped and when that happens then All hell will break loose as LEA and Lawyers will be going apeshit over who owns what. It's already been shown by Coins being blacklisted from exchanges and gateways like coinbase collecting user info, the writing is on the wall.

Nomenclature semantics aside, I simply find interest in the motivations of different xmr investors. I share many of your concerns for btc (happy?, Tongue) and have gravitated to Monero for similar reasons. I believe bitcoins fungibility is fundamentally broken. It's development has also failed to remain agile, miserably. However I still see significant gains to be made down the road. I still hold a strong belief that for Monero to make it, bitcoin has to make it first. The public will be too cynical of cryptocurrencies if bitcoin fails. If crypto is to happen, it rather needs to succeed then fade into the background as something superior takes over. Otherwise I think some kind of state sponsored cryptocurrency may be the more likely outcome.


EDIT: Don't want to be OT. Looks like 0.003 is quite determined to be the price of monero right now.

I don't disagree, I did not mean to sound like I think BTC will crach and burn. I just see it going the LTC route albeit slowly as it is not an abandoned project. I think Bagholders will be looking to diversify and that is one reason XMR got a nice shot in the arm recently and I fully expect that to continue. As time passes holders will continue to see the threads come apart and will inevitably drift toward XMR and/or other alternatives. AFA the bolded statement, I cannot see any scenario where that will happen. The writing is on the wall and the only reason it will not be a quick death is large holders (and stubborn true believers) will shore up their investments as they divest.

To address the "motivations of different xmr investors" I cannot speak for others but mine is simply the belief that it is needed for a free society and anything supporting that goal is where you will find me.
11762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BuyMonero.net - BTC cost averaging on: April 16, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
Watching with interest to see the adoption of this... I'm by not means a programmer but taught myself enough python to get a quite sophisticated bot up and running on Poloniex. So always good to see what the competition is doing!  Smiley

Nice to hear, why don't you post what points your bot purchased at in a few days. I'd be interested to see the results. Smiley
11763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 16, 2015, 10:50:23 PM
So once the database is released for all to enjoy (which is so soon its about to fall off the branch - fruit/github pun!!!) what're we going to start clamoring for / working on next? ...


Do to the dependencies what we need is a hierarchy branch structure of the development schedule. This would make the Teams goals much easier to understand for the layman. Visual representation is so much easier to point out than reiterating lists.

Something like a flowchart with arrows would be great for this in my opinion.

EDIT: The flowchart could also be updated with people who are working on it, that would make communicating a lot easier and the work will probably go a lot faster.

Really a simple Block diagram should be fine. this link might have the right template
http://www.breezetree.com/articles/flowchart-templates.htm
Flowcharting is designed to handle decision making.
11764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 16, 2015, 10:36:00 PM
OK, so I don't know if this is OT or not but here goes.

What's your opinions on BTC next stable price? I will have to be buying in again and obviously want to grab BTC as low as possible as it's nothing more than a vehicle to XMR for me.
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Today the btc I had on Polo vanished Shocked
I did however find more Monero there. Cool...

LOL, Thx. Smiley
11765  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN]Cryptovpn.me Signature Campaign | flexible payments on: April 16, 2015, 10:19:05 PM
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11766  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN]Cryptovpn.me Signature Campaign | flexible payments on: April 16, 2015, 10:14:45 PM
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11767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NODE Revolution: "Money is a means of payment, not speculation" (с) on: April 16, 2015, 10:02:32 PM
@update
New test clients, port 24755 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3Yj5G7gBeXIc2Rudk43YmRwakE/view?usp=sharing
http://nodemoney.com:24775/#/login
To begin testing, you need a volunteer from the community who distribute the coins to the test. Our team will work in two directions, network testing and reformatting code for the banking system.
What would the network worked fine for the start of testing should be minimum 5-7 peers in the network

Post the actual contracts and applications sent to the bank and how this is going to work out. The software is ok, where's the paper work though?

Contracts not yet concluded, and will be made before the end of summer
At this stage the reformatting of code from the old system which we wrote and split the Node into 2 parts.
In legal terms we decide which Bank to work with. But we tend to https://www.piraeusbank.com/sites/ukraine/ru/Pages/default.aspx (wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piraeus_Bank) but this is still under consideration. We also viewed the option of working with the system http://moneypolo.com/. The legal part is we have a lot of time and hinders technological process. We want to make the right decision that would then not be altered. We also study the principles of Western monetary systems, Leader, Contact

Still not a lot of patience and everything will get more information


The biggest bank in Greece will adopt some obscure cryptocurrency?  This seems more like fake information to pump a dead coin.

"But we tend to" = speculation, they won't return your phone calls or emails.  No point in mentioning any of these hypothetical or speculations or desires until you got results to deliver.  Don't pump and dump.  Don't turn NODE into scam.




I agree with you here, not to mention that Greece's economy is not doing good at all. This makes no sense.

While doubtful, actually a ruined economy would be more inclined to trying a different approach than a robust one.

IBM has been working on their own Blockchain for banking systems as Banks like to control the assets they manipulate. Smiley
11768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 16, 2015, 09:49:21 PM
OK, so I don't know if this is OT or not but here goes.

What's your opinions on BTC next stable price? I will have to be buying in again and obviously want to grab BTC as low as possible as it's nothing more than a vehicle to XMR for me.

I am very curious as to how many monero holders take this stance. Are you "All in" or do you hold some xbt?

I know it's heresy to ask how much btc deep these "all in"ers (or anyone) are as it infers approximate xmr holdings, but my curiosity begs the question still.

I don't believe in BTC and won't even be bothered to call it XBT as most of the world doesn't know or even care what XBT means and barely knows what BTC means. I think it's retarded to try to rename something that is just getting a foothold in peoples mind. But I think XBT (happy?) will be gone in under a decade as the Blockchain will (If it hasn't already) be completely mapped and when that happens then All hell will break loose as LEA and Lawyers will be going apeshit over who owns what. It's already been shown by Coins being blacklisted from exchanges and gateways like coinbase collecting user info, the writing is on the wall.
11769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 16, 2015, 09:31:48 PM
So once the database is released for all to enjoy (which is so soon its about to fall off the branch - fruit/github pun!!!) what're we going to start clamoring for / working on next? ...


Do to the dependencies what we need is a hierarchy branch structure of the development schedule. This would make the Teams goals much easier to understand for the layman. Visual representation is so much easier to point out than reiterating lists.
11770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 16, 2015, 08:52:37 PM
OK, so I don't know if this is OT or not but here goes.

What's your opinions on BTC next stable price? I will have to be buying in again and obviously want to grab BTC as low as possible as it's nothing more than a vehicle to XMR for me.
11771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOXT] - NobleNXT Proposal/Whitepaper - Noble's 1st Colored Coin on: April 16, 2015, 01:46:58 AM
Hey, I think it might be time to remove Mintpal and AGX. Smiley

https://www.noblemovement.com/marketplace/
11772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 16, 2015, 01:10:28 AM


Great post. I agree with everything that i know enough about to comment on. Though we might be pleasantly surprised. Especially if there is a catalyzing event such as people being kidnapped by the state as a result of block chain analysis.

Wow. Is that something that big bitcoin holders actually fear ?

I would think they would fear the day it loses all fungibility. The day when LEA start seizing coins for any previous iteration they were connected to.
11773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 15, 2015, 05:02:20 PM
I tried to spread the hash so I threw 5 gpu's at monerominers.net.

11774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 15, 2015, 04:04:14 AM
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{a bunch of crap I didn't bother to read}


I am not able to continue at this time.

I will now delete this account forever and never return to this forum.
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Good day.

Sorry for quoting but he put soo much effort into this dribble I had to.

AnnoyMint is special.  I doubt everyone gets the humor.

Yeah. I specially enjoyed the non-comb reverse Tupelo honey equation.

Now that was funny. So I went back and read the entire post and did get a few chuckles from it.

How would this handle it?
http://thestack.com/cornell-justin-cheng-troll-behavior-130415
11775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 14, 2015, 08:57:32 PM
The golden age of mankind in my understanding was about 1870-1912. ...

what about
11776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 14, 2015, 08:52:59 PM
...

{a bunch of crap I didn't bother to read}


I am not able to continue at this time.

I will now delete this account forever and never return to this forum.
...

Good day.

Sorry for quoting but he put soo much effort into this dribble I had to.
11777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: April 14, 2015, 06:03:31 AM
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9 months later!!! �

Jack decided to go skiing with his buddy, Bob. So they loaded up Jack's minivan and headed north.

After driving for a few hours, they got caught in a terrible blizzard. So they pulled into a nearby farm and asked the attractive lady who answered the door if they could spend the night.

'I realize it's terrible weather out there and I have this huge house all to myself, but I'm recently widowed,' she explained. 'I'm afraid the neighbors will talk if I let you stay in my house.'

'Don't worry,' Jack said.. 'We'll be happy to sleep in the barn. And if the weather breaks, we'll be gone at first light.' The lady agreed, and the two men found their way to the barn and settled in for the night.

Come morning, the weather had cleared, and they got on their way. They enjoyed a great weekend of skiing.

But about nine months later, Jack got an unexpected letter from an attorney. It took him a few minutes to figure it out, but he finally determined that it was from the attorney of that attractive widow he had met on the ski weekend...

He dropped in on his friend Bob and asked, "Bob, do you remember that good-looking widow from the farm we stayed at on our ski holiday up north about 9 months ago?"

"Yes, I do." Said Bob.

"Did you, er, happen to get up in the middle of the night, go up to the house and pay her a visit?"

"Well, um, yes!," Bob said, a little embarrassed about being found out, I have to admit that I did.."

"And did you happen to give her my name instead of telling her your name?"

Bob's face turned beet red and he said, "Yeah, look, I'm sorry,buddy.. I'm afraid I did.' 'Why do you ask?"



"She just died and left me everything."
11778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 14, 2015, 02:23:46 AM
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So no economic reasoning whatsoever to the choice of approx 0.9% inflation?

There is plenty of economic reasons, first being to secure the network,[/b] without network no transactions, like rpietila said its close to what gold is now. 1% is bellow the long-run ideal inflation on a large scale economy (believed to be 2%). 1% runs of the risk of deflation with eventual lost coins it will become de-facto deflationary in the long run.

I didn't say tail emission was a bad idea. I agree with it. It just shouldn't be a "magic number" value. And Monero is NOT gold. Most everything about it is quite different than gold. There seems to be no logical reason to choose that value based on "that's how gold is".

It wasn't logical, it was indeed a magic number (at least 1% was; 0.3 coins/minute is derived from the 1%/year) chosen at the start more or less arbitrary manner based on subjective views of what was useful to do. If it turns out to be a disastrous choice with horrible consequences, then Monero will fail. This is an experiment.



I really like the way you don't sugar coat shit. Smiley

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You mean he's busy pumping litecoin with the crappiest arguments you can find even in the deep bitcointalk mud?
(watch at 1'10): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLu1yAeWNtw


Well to be fair it was before ASIC's for Scrypt and the doggie explosion which really fueled the alt race. Which really was what killed LTC. Well that and the lack of Dev support.
11779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO]MANDATORY UPGRADE!Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: April 13, 2015, 06:34:14 PM
Can you please add my pool to the list?
http://monerominers.net (US)

It's still small with 6-10 kHash/s but some of the listed pools have 0 Hash/s.
0.5% Fee

Where did you go? I was mining there on and off for the last month. It's been about a week now.
11780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOXT] - NobleNXT Proposal/Whitepaper - Noble's 1st Colored Coin on: April 12, 2015, 11:14:06 PM
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He means guaranteed price for NOXT services, such as Noblepay. Though this price will be adjusted as the price of NOXT hopefully rises(by no more than +10% a month i think).

Correct. The amounts will be capped but hopefully increase over time. I want the utilities to be used and grown naturally as a means of promotion and real-world use over a long period (to attract new entrants - non-whales), not be taken advantage of over a week.

More updates today.

Nice maybe someday if it works out in your nation...
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