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1181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 02, 2024, 07:11:50 PM
It will be hard for Paris Saint-German to win the Uefa Champions League trophy. Paris Saint-German has built its team around Mbappe, and if Mbappe is not in form Paris Saint-German will not perform well.

Maybe most of what we see only focuses on Mbappe, even though Enrique actually plays a game of collectivity and teamwork. so far, in the PSG camp, Mbappe is the player who is truly an established player, especially as he is a goal bomber. even if Enrique relies more on him, it would be very natural because Mbappe is the one who has so far been the focus of the team. with the scenario, he can provide a lot of experience to other players, especially those on PSG's front lines. I think gradually, if Ramos and Kolo Muani are able to adapt quickly and reach a level in their game. these two players can be as dangerous as a sharp sticker to break into their opponent's goal.

Talking about winning trophies this season, I'm sure Luis Enrique is very aware of the squad he is currently coaching. in other words, PSG is not in the capacity to target the Champions League trophy. just imagine, when PSG play matches in the group phase, sometimes they have difficulty in away matches. I am also sure that his current team is not as ideal as he had hoped for. that's why, it seems that PSG will bring in several new arrivals this January. in other words, Enrique wants to patch up the weaknesses and shortcomings of his team. however, this team will not immediately become a strong team with instants. what is certain is that a process is needed and as a coach he is very aware of that. so, the task of Enrique and his squad is now to play as hard as possible as far as they can do it. or at least, PSG should be able to beat Real Sociedad in the round of 16. the rest, let them answer with the matches they play.
1182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 02, 2024, 06:44:17 PM
It seems João Félix had a poor performance and his performance was weak enough to make Xavi mad at this player. Before João Félix joined Barcelona he said how loved this team and he wanted to play for Barcelona but this player mostly couldn't have good performances since he started playing for Barcelona,
In the game between Barcelona and Almería, the performance of João Félix was weak enough to make Xavi not use this player in the best squad in the game against Las Palmas.



For me, Felix is ​​the differentiating player at Barcelona at the moment.  Even though he didn't score a goal in every match, his role at Barcelona was quite good. let's just look at the statistics, Felix has started 13 of the 15 matches as the main starter for Barcelona. even though he only scored 3 goals and 2 assists, so far he is better than Ferran Torres. yeah, we can refer to the statistics that Joao Felix underperformed in the match against Almeria, but that is not a fair benchmark for what he has done while playing for Barcelona. after all, if a player experiences ups and downs in his performance, this is very normal. the most important thing is not to play badly as long as he plays with Barcelona. however, I agree that Joao Felix's performance cannot be said to be stable. and maybe, he needs more time to reach his playing level. for the Barcelona vs Las Pamas match, if I refer to several statistical predictions, Felix will still be included in Barcelona's starting eleven.

Well, by the way, Barcelona actually has a quite competitive squad. be it Joao Felix, Lamine Yamal, Gundohan, Joao Cancelo and other players, they can be really relied on. well, this is where Xavi's role is to show that he is a competent coach who is able to bring his team back to the right track. even though there are several players injured, and all of that is important for Barcelona. but still, as head coach Xavi must find the ideal formula with the available players. now Barcelona has a wonderkid from Brazil, Vitor Roque, and to be honest, I'm very curious about his performance. anyway, Barcelona still has lots of opportunities in the La Liga competition, at least there are still lots of games left until the end of this season.

1183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 02, 2024, 05:55:01 PM
How this season is progressing I believe Liverpool will win the Premier League because they are in real great form this season, whereas Arsenal is not in great form and is losing matches, which is why football can be predicted. When Arsenal started this season new, many people predicted that they would win the trophy because they were winning matches and even defeating Manchester City, who were giving them a headache in the competition. However, they are currently losing to minor clubs that no one expects they will do that.

I hoped they would do well in the Champions League versus Porto, because Porto are in terrific form and have more Champions League experience than Arsenal, who use to qualify every season. So I think Arteta needs to tighten his bet and improve his players performances, but I don't think they'll win a trophy this season because they've missed their chances. I think they'll have another chance to top the league table if Liverpool misbehaves, but that won't be an easy task because I don't believe Liverpool will lose any points now.

Remember, there are still at least 18 games left until this season ends. along the way, the ups and downs of a team are sometimes unavoidable. yeah, like Arsenal who were able to beat City, but fell to a team that was far below their ranking, either based on player depth or based on standings. and this is football, sometimes it's hard for us to guess. plus, it's not uncommon for the coach to make a mistake by underestimating his opponent. against Fulham, we really regret Arsenal's defeat. moreover, Arteta did not play his core line-up. but that fact doesn't apply, after all Arsenal lost at home for the first time. City is currently in 3rd place with 40 points, 5 points behind Liverpool. but City have one game postponed which they might use in good time to get full points. plus, City has one meeting at Anfield, Liverpool's headquarters. this match is a crucial match that can widen the point gap between the two. moreover, the competition in the top four currently still looks exciting because the difference in points is not significantly different. which means that if Liverpool slip up in the next two matches, this will give the team below them a chance. talking about Arsenal's match against Porto in the Champions League, actually this match still has a time lag. so, Arteta will prepare his team and try to find his opponent's weak points. based on the temporary odds provided by the bookies for these two teams, Arsenal is superior to the home team. at least, we have some idea for now about both teams. although usually, before the match, what the bookie offers has the potential to change. let's just follow and enjoy everything Arsenal does. moreover, this squad is my favorite team in the premier league.
1184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 02, 2024, 04:48:30 PM
FCBInside, a site that is usually very well informed about FC Bayern, reports that Xabi Alonso is to succeed Thomas Tuchel after Real Madrid extended Angelotti's contract. Although Alonso still has a contract with Leverkusen until 2026, he would be free to leave the club if he could move to one of his former clubs. It could be as early as the summer if Tuchel does not achieve the goals that are expected of him.

Source: https://fcbinside.de/2023/12/31/trainer-beben-in-muenchen-xabi-alonso-will-offenbar-zum-fc-bayern/

That's going to happen only if xabi will be agreed to join in the bayern munich but it's not yet clear whether alonso was willing to leave from leverkusen before his contract will end. Im doubting xabi to leave from leverkusen earlier if he will able to get a lot of achievements with leverkusen.
So, bayern has prepared itself to sack tuchel once he will not be able to deliver for the club this season? that's a harsh hand from bayern. Tuchel may be in a very big pressure at this moment. It seems his position is not yet safe at all.

Did kane's transfer give another burden to him? I meant since bayern has spent a lot of money and the club needs the manager to deliver more for bayern. Another big challenge is awaiting him.

Referring to the link report shared above, I did not find any official statement that Xabi Alonso will replace Thomas Tuchel. on the same page, the big boss of Bayern Munich only included Xabi Alonso's name on their wish list. that's the scenario if Thomas Tuchel fails to bring Bayern Munich to a title, especially the Bundusliga title which he usually has in recent years. so, I think this is just an ordinary rumor which is not necessarily true. if that is the case, it is not certain that Xabi Alonso will be willing to become head coach at Bayern Munich next summer. although, actually Xabi has an agreement with Leverkusen that he can move at any time according to the agreement with the club.

From the same source, it seems this rumor is circulating after Don Carlo extended his contract at Santiago Bernabeu. then, BILD reported that even though Alonso has extended his contract with Leverkusen until 2026, it is not impossible that he will leave the club at the end of the season. well, things like that could happen, especially if Thomas Tuchel fails to make Bayern Munich better. regarding Kane, I don't think that's the situation. in fact, previously, the club really wanted Kane's services to join Bayern Munich. maybe it could be due to other factors, or the most logical thing would be if Tuchel failed. but I still have great confidence that in the end Bayern will return to the top of the Bundesliga standings. I'm sure it's only a matter of time, so let's wait and enjoy as football fans.
1185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? on: January 02, 2024, 01:42:49 PM
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

There is a saying, don't judge a book by its cover. so you see, what you see does not necessarily reflect what you actually think. so, remember that thinking like that is not true. personally, I have encountered many characteristics of people like what you said in this thread. although not in the exact situation and conditions as you say, I mean not like the case we are discussing. A person can style according to what he wants, even though he looks like he has mental problems. but we never know for sure, especially since the man acted like a normal person. unless you really know the person. in this thread, you say, the gambling shop claims that he is a regular customer and he has never behaved badly.

My question is, what should we debate with this person, isn't he/she has the right to what he/she wants? in fact, many people have mental disorders. even people like us who look neat, but have personality problems. many also have another side with mental problems, especially those related to gambling. IMO, referring to what you said, it seems there is no written obligation for the shop to ban it because of its appearance problem. on the contrary, your moral obligations will be questioned first, by welcoming them well and then asking about several things. if winning doesn't indicate a mental problem, why ban someone. physical appearance does not determine a person's identity, in fact we cannot judge based only on our eyes. the problem is different, if this man comes to a top casino which requires its customers to dress appropriately and in accordance with the regulations implemented by the casino. if it's just a gambling shop and the person is able and willing to risk his money, then that's his right. as long as it's not disturbing, as long as it doesn't violate the rules, everything is fine.
1186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves? on: January 02, 2024, 11:48:23 AM
I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

Well, actually I really understand what you said in this thread. however, it seems there is a different meaning and essence between me and you. first of all, I want to say first, what I said does not mean I am comparing. so, please understand. the title of your thread, is really very interesting to me. I will quote him, "Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves?". there is a big question that you seem to be struggling with, especially regarding gambling and the idea of ​​having fun. at this point, many people actually have the same questions as you think. however, both you, me, we, have different definitions regarding what gambling is. first, what does pleasure mean to you? so, what does this have to do with the gambling you do? you can answer it, but keep your answer to yourself. for me, pleasure has a broad meaning depending on how I respond to it and condition it to the situation and conditions. now, what is gambling to you? for me, gambling is expensive entertainment and contains a lot of risk. then, what allows us to have fun and get pleasure. yeah, the answer depends on each individual.

So you see, the idea of ​​having fun doesn't have to be what you mean in the title of this thread and neither does what you say in this post. before we gamble, either you or I, must first spend capital as a medium for playing and betting. at this point, you are willing and aware to do it. the question is, are you thinking about something bad instead of having fun? Of course it's not like that. besides, it doesn't mean that with the idea of ​​having fun we don't expect to win. as you said, even if you say it seems like we are lying to ourselves and this is where the difference lies. pleasure doesn't have to be winning, even in situations where you lose, you can learn lessons in the form of pleasure. for example, I bet on Arsenal "football" a team that is my favorite. then, the fact is that Arsenal lost the match.  meaning, I also lost. however, because Arsenal played the game very well, neatly and impressively, I enjoyed it even though they lost. even though I lost, psychologically I got the game I wanted and the results from the bets I made. and this, is a form of pleasure. so each gambler can define his own pleasure, and it depends on how he reacts to it. so, we don't need to lie to ourselves. regarding winning or losing, isn't that part of the risk of gambling? well, enjoy it according to your own version.
1187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and health concern on: January 02, 2024, 11:00:00 AM
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My question is :
Do you know the status of your health while gambling and what do you do if you happen to suffer a mild or hard stroke?

This is why I make it a point to open my messenger and have my loved one that I can contact in case, whenever I'm playing alone.


Actually, I don't know where to start commenting, but what is certain is that I don't know the person and don't know for sure what really happened. I mean, before he gambles and after he wins. at the same time, he had a heart attack. in fact, if we try to trace it, cause and effect, maybe the initial trigger didn't actually come from winning some money at the casino. in the world of medicine, there is a diagnosis. however, this is not my field so I don't dare to speculate. and based on what you said, this person has a history of the disease he is suffering from. the fact is that this person likes gambling, maybe he forgot to prepare to take his medicine before doing his activities. whatever the activity, whether in work, entertainment and so on. so, it's not just because of gambling. however, because of the situation, he was gambling, and by chance won a very large win, his hypertension was high and uncontrolled. in the end, he had a heart attack like the story in this thread.

I'm trying to conclude if the man or woman we are discussing in this thread is elderly, anyway this is just a personal assumption. referring to your question, in fact I never thought about such things. however, it can be a reminder for us if our condition is not fine. it would be better to rest and not do any activities before completely recovering. overall, especially the content of the title of this thread, "Gambling and health concerns". once again I say, a situation like the one you describe can happen to anyone, it doesn't have to refer only to someone who likes to gamble. so, prioritizing health is an important part. and gambling should entertain us and not bring problems to all of us.
1188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling. on: January 02, 2024, 09:41:02 AM
Gambling whether you play it online or offline is a mental game there are a lot of mixed emotions going on while you play
Excited when you're winning, anxious when you're chasing your losses, ecstatic when you won a big amount but have anxiety about cashing out.

It's a roller coaster ride when we are playing in casinos whether online or offline that is why we always come back to gamble because we feel alive and we have mixed emotions.

But after finishing the game what's your overall feeling how did you overcome this feeling and how many hours or days did it last?

Be honest with yourself and vote on the poll on What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling?

Honestly, I like what you have to say in this thread. for me, what you say is purely based on what you feel without any interests or anything else. the point I like the most is, we feel alive because we have emotions like a roller coaster, going up and down without even planning it beforehand. most people rarely learn from the sensations we get in gambling. this is not just about winning or losing, chasing losses, or so on as you mentioned in this thread. our adrenaline rushes rapidly when we play, especially in situations that we don't expect. we get all the feelings in just one moment of the betting session, regardless of winning or losing. now let's discuss what you asked in this thread, "What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling".

Honestly, how should I answer it because in each session we sometimes get different experiences. except, if the question you ask is more specific. for example, how we feel after we finish gambling in a situation where we lose big.  or it could be the other way around, when victory is approaching us. but okay, I'll try to answer what was asked in this thread. firstly, I cannot answer specifically and definitively. because, it all depends on the situation and conditions. but let's just say I lost, if I say I'm happy it's the same as lying to myself. on the other hand, when I win, I don't need to tell you because we can guess it I guess. so what's the point, there is no other word than I move on to do other activities regardless of the situation after the gambling session. or, I can rest with the remaining time. so there is no definite answer for me to your question, because for me it is complex and difficult for me to say with just words. in essence, I have to neutralize whatever it is and get back to doing what I have to do.
1189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 01, 2024, 09:49:29 PM
Personally I don't consider Liverpool team as favorite for Europa League because Premier League title is very difficult to win. They have to compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for the Premier League title. If they lose a point in any match, they will be relegated. Liverpool have underperformed in the Premier League in the last three seasons. This is why they will try their best to win the Premier League title this season. And I've seen teams like Barcelona and Liverpool win the Europa League in the past.
  However, Liverpool are still favorites for the Europa League title.

I agree with what you said, that the important point is to win the Premier League trophy. more precisely, how does Klopp keep his team on the right track and continue to maintain its ranking on the Domestic League standings. the reason is, competition in January will be even tighter. City will be more serious about playing their matches, especially if several of their players have fully recovered from injuries. apart from that, City has 1 match which will face Liverpool at Anfield. this match will not be easy, especially if City plays with its full core of players. apart from that, Arteta will also study and improve his squad so that it remains able to compete in the race for the Premier League trophy. the Premier League competition will become increasingly difficult in terms of competition for trophies, especially as we approach the end of the season. which means, each team will try as hard as possible to avoid losing even minor points. well, will Klopp be serious about continuing to target this trophy? if yes, their focus will be divided, especially as the crucial rounds approach and at the same time the competition in the Premier League will become tighter. in fact, we know that Liverpool has been fasting for a Premier League title for quite some time. so what they have achieved so far, reaching the top of the standings in the Premier League, will not be wasted, especially for Klopp as coach. as for this competition, no one can deny that Liverpool is one of the strong challengers in the race for the Europa League trophy. however, we cannot confirm with certainty which team will win the Europa League competition. there is no other choice but to always take part in every match presented by this competition.
1190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 01, 2024, 09:19:57 PM
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Because the club owners have a lot of money, they were able to put together a front line that was quite dangerous in the previous few seasons. But in reality they are not able to provide anything different and that is not about Ligue 1 but other competitions that are much higher. Other clubs don't have the finances like PSG so not many can afford to buy quality players and when that can't be done then PSG will continue to dominate Ligue 1 without such strong competition.

PSG needs to build a more solid squad and maybe not just talk about a number of quality players because the previous season they had quite good strength. Now long-term projections need to be developed where Luis Enrique must be different from the previous coach and this will be a difficult job that Luis Enrique needs to do.

As far as I know, Paris Saint-Germain is a club supported by Qatar.  If I'm wrong, please correct me. it would be very natural if they had unlimited financial conditions. referring to what you said, yeah, PSG was able to bring in the players they wanted, especially on the front line. just like last season, PSG has a mega project of top stars to realize their dream of winning the Champions League trophy. unfortunately, there are several factors that become obstacles for them to realize their club dreams. the problem is, it's not just great players that they need. but, a competent trainer. able to handle his squad both on the field and in the dressing room. moreover, PSG's problems last season were quite complex from my personal point of view.  Neymar's injury was one of the factors. the coach's lack of experience, and the coach not having complete control over his players. in other words, everything has been arranged in such a way by PSG management or the big boss of Paris Saint-Germain.

Now PSG is in the hands of the right coach, that's how it should be. so, the problem this time is whether the club is willing to fully involve Enrique either in terms of recruiting players or other things and so on. but at least, PSG's philosophy this season has changed. it seems like they are starting to follow in the footsteps of Manchester City. btw, this is just my personal assumption. regarding other teams, as you said, almost most of their financial conditions are not like Paris Saint Germain. so it would be very natural that the competition for trophies would be very difficult to break the dominance of the French League giants in this competition.
1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 01, 2024, 08:55:09 PM
Last night was a victory that Al-Shabab really missed because in the last 6 matches in the Saudi league, Al-Shabab have never tasted victory again. They did this when they hosted al-Wehda at home and the win with a narrow score of 1-0 allowed Al-Shabab to breathe a sigh of relief to be able to move away from the relegation zone again. Abdullah Radif was a hero for Al-Shabab's victory in this match and if he had not scored a goal in the 86th minute then it is certain that the two teams would only be tied for 1 point.

Al-Shabab is indeed one of the teams that has experienced a drastic decline this season and they are very doubtful of being able to return to the top flight. But if they close this season without being relegated, that would be the best achievement they could do.

After the 2023-24 season is held, one of the strong teams that competed in last season's competition. in the competition, the minimum was to finish in the top four, experiencing various obstacles. in fact, in the last three seasons, Al Shabab has always been in the top four of the Saudi Pro League standings. unfortunately this season, Al Shabab is the team that stands out the most in terms of a very significant decline in performance. now, Al Shabab is in 11th place after overthrowing Al Wehda by a narrow score. at least, for the time being Al Shabab is in a safe position. this team's performance is really fluctuating, which last season was able to provide competition. this season they were only able to win 5 of their 19 matches in the Saudi Pro League. 6 draws, 8 with losses. even though, this team is not an ordinary team. I mean, Al Shabab has a pretty good financial condition. however, to compete with the other 4 clubs, it seems that it will be difficult and requires hard work apart from spending money to bring in several top European players.

Speaking at the Al Wehda match, Al Shabab was able to end its bad results after not winning in its last 6 matches. even to overthrow Al Wehda, which incidentally Al Shabab is playing at home, they have to work hard to win even though they have many opportunities. in fact, this competition still has a lot of matches left. however, it seems that it will be difficult for Al Shabab to finish in the top four until the end of the 2023-2024 season. at the very least, the Al Shabab coach must continue to correct weaknesses and improve the quality of his players.
1192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 01, 2024, 08:15:59 PM
It is a bit surprising that Ancelotti extends his contract for 2 more seasons. We know that he is projected to be the coach of Brazil national team. But now, it is clear that Ancelotti will stay in Real Madrid until 2026. I think it is not a bad idea to stay in Real Madrid, Ancelotti can maintain what he already builds in Real Madrid squad. The young players in Real Madrid need help and motivation from Ancelotti, he is a perfect coach to support Real Madrid players. Well, it is true that Zidane or other coaches won't have the chance to manage Real Madrid.

To be honest, I wasn't surprised after Romano reported that Carlo Ancelotti had extended his contract at Real Madrid until 2026. I was trying to interpret whether the club management, or Perez, were actually considering the ideal coach as Don Carlo's successor. however, because they did not find the right and ideal candidate, perhaps the two parties communicated and ultimately found an agreement with the option to extend the duration of the contract. in the end, as we heard today, Carlo Ancelotti remains the head coach at Real Madrid. Ancelotti's side, he may have hopes with his new young squad to bring more solidity and toughness. that's also why he is considering staying at Santiago Bernabeu even though there are rumors that he will become coach of the Brazilian national team in 2024.

Actually, there are many competent coaches out there. the difference is, Ancelotti is a charismatic coach and he can lead his squad both on the field and in the dressing room. as far as I know, it is almost rare to hear of conflict between players or coaches occurring in the Real Madrid dressing room and that is one of the great things about Don Carlo. so, it would be very natural if Madrid kept him. moreover, Madrid's current young squad can be said to be playing quite impressively. furthermore, Ancelotti will only bring in players according to his team's needs. and it could be that Madrid will be even stronger with several new arrivals. maybe this January, or next summer. well, let's just wait.
1193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 01, 2024, 07:50:32 PM
If Dortmund have not been consistently selling off most of their players, I'm certain they would have been able to stay ahead of Bayern Munich much enough to be able to able to win the league titles especially last season when they were close to winning and later lost form and Bayern Munich as usual won again.
They have to sell players that do not want to stay, and they are paid so well for these players by the clubs that buy them, so Dortmund can also invest that money in other players, they didn't lose their players for free. Bayern Munich are so strong in the German league and Dortmund wouldn't have been able to stay ahead of them even if they haven't sold any player in the last 3 years or so. I want some other team that's not Bayern Munich to win the league this season, Leverkusen are doing very well and they are top of the German league, but i still think that Bayern will come back to win the title.

None of that is certain, in fact nothing is certain even if Dortmund does not sell its players. but at least, the big rivalry will likely be more competitive between Dortmund and Bayern Munich. unfortunately, Dortmund doesn't plan to do that. because, as we all know, how Dortmund does business in this industry. apart from that, they can't just rely on ticket sales income alone. that's why since Dortmund almost went bankrupt, they changed their direction in recovering their financial situation. and currently, Dortmund has produced many star players who are currently playing in various leagues. with that, Dortmund experienced an increase in its finances based on the sales of its players. what's unique is that in recent years, even though they sold several of their players, Dortmund was still able to finish in the top 4 of the Bundesliga. and what I said, we have discussed many times especially in this thread.

Talking about competition this season, Bayern Munich still has a high probability of defending their title for the umpteenth time. although, now Leverkusen is at the top of the standings. like it or not, Leverkusen must continue to appear on the right track. a difference of 4 points does not make Xabi Alonso's squad safe from Bayern Munich, especially since Bayern has one match postponed plus one match against Leverkusen. in the match between these two teams, it will be very crucial. I won't speculate too far, just follow every development, especially now that the competition is at least more exciting and competitive.
1194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich, average or poor. Who loses more? on: January 01, 2024, 07:11:05 PM
Honestly, for me, gambling is the same, the only difference is the size of the bankroll that each person spends to make a deposit. whether he is rich, poor or just an ordinary person, losing and winning are part of gambling, there are no castes regarding luck, winning, or even who loses more. basically, every gambler has their own portion when it comes to gambling. we will bet as much as we can afford to bet, many of us bet with small bankrolls, not a few also use large bankrolls according to the limits of their respective abilities.

In fact, I have never compared who loses the most from gambling, and who wins the most from gambling. ordinary people or rich people, for me it's all the same and it's just a matter of numbers, nothing more. but I agree with what you said, "Is it not the other way around that the more the rich spend on gambling, the more money the rich will eventually lose". the answer is simple, because they spend more money than gamblers in general. and if they lose, it means they have suffered a big defeat. but in return, they get results commensurate with the money they bet. in essence, gambling does not know whether you are rich or not. if you lose you lose, if you win you win.
1195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 01, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
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Newcastle United is a pretty tough opponent for Liverpool, but that doesn't mean Liverpool isn't tough enough when competing at home in today's match. Because even without Salah, Liverpool still has to be considered as a strong team this season because so far Liverpool's strength is still visible, so it is not worth underestimating Liverpool just because one of their mainstay players is going to the Africa Cup of Nations. Today's match for Liverpool will probably be much more interesting because Liverpool really need to distance themselves from Aston Villa who are currently starting to continue to show their fangs and skills in every match.

If I refer to several local newspapers, Liverpool coach, Jurgen Kloop, confirmed that Mo Salah and Wataru Endo will leave the team after the match against Newcastle. Salah goes to the African Cup, while Endo goes to the Asian Cup. well, we'll see whether these two players will miss the match against Newcastle. apart from all that, Liverpool needs to win in this match to widen the points gap from the teams below their ranking. in this match, three points is the result that must be achieved by the Red. moreover, this match was held at Anfield, Liverpool's headquarters. well, Liverpool shouldn't have any problems in this match when they host Newcastle. the reason is, Newcastle's condition and performance are not in a good condition. in the last five matches played by Liverpool, Eddie Howe's squad was only able to win 1 match. in the two matches before this match, Newcastle lost to Luton and Forest. obviously, this situation was not pleasant at all for Eddie Howe and his squad. moreover, Newcastle will visit Anfield, Liverpool's home ground.

Now we refer to betting options, Liverpool with odds @1.46 and while Newcastle @6.20, there is a quite obvious gap between these two teams. my guess is that this match will offer quite an exciting and tough fight. even so, we also have to see what Eddie Howe and his squad will do. what is certain is that both teams want full points. Liverpool wants to widen the points gap from the teams below them, while Newcastle will try to get back on the right track and at the same time improve their ranking in the standings. my estimation, the result of this match is only a slight goal difference. there are several factors, it is very likely that Liverpool will win this match with a score of 2-1, it could also be the other way around. or, this match ends in a draw.  ideal option for me handicap -1.5 @1.73 Newcastle. well, let's wait for the final result of this match.
1196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 01, 2024, 12:42:23 PM

Despite being in financial crisis, Barcelona team managed to win the title last season. Because their squad was strong enough. But there are several weaknesses within their squad this season. Players are facing injuries. As a result, Barcelona's defense is now quite shaky. Together they depend on Lewandowski to score. If Lewa does not perform well, it will be difficult for Barcelona to win the match. The team is not getting the expected performance from Gundogan. Barcelona will need to prepare big funds in the winter transfer window if they want to stabilize the squad. If not, they will not be able to fight for the title this season.

In fact, Barcelona has a competitive squad from all levels of players, even though currently Gavi is suffering from an injury and has to receive treatment which requires a long time, Gavi is also one of the important players in Xavi Hernandez's squad. apart from that, Pedri seems to be injured again. also, goalkeeper Ter Steger, who was injured. these three players in particular, are very important for Barcelona. meanwhile, the substitute players did not appear with a stable performance, such as Inaki Pena, Fermin Lopez, whose performance was still up and down.

So far I have not followed Barcelona's progress in the hunt for the players they want, especially since Barca is hampered by their unstable financial condition. but what is certain is that currently Barcelona has Vitor Roque who might be a substitute for Lewandowski as a center forward. at least, Barca have overcome one problem they are trying to fix. for the other players, IMO, it's all about how Xavi prepares his squad when he plays the match. because, personally, Barcelona has Gundohan who is rich in experience, mentality and well-established. apart from that, there is still De Jong who can be relied on in midfield. the point is, I don't know whether Barcelona will bring in new arrivals or not. because so far, I haven't followed every development. but coming back to what I said, in this current situation, Xavi has to maximize the existing squad to continue showing his best game. in this phase, Xavi must find a way and create an ideal system to remain competitive. as a Barcelona fan, I hope that Xavi is able to maximize his potential as a worthy coach. with or without newcomers, he must try and give his all as a competent coach.
1197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 01, 2024, 11:53:52 AM
The Champions League is always unpredictable. It is difficult to say which team will be the champion. No wonder an underdog team wins. A few years ago the Chelsea team won the Champions League title. No one imagines that a mediocre team like Chelsea will win the Champions League title. This season, Madrid, City, Bayern Munich are naturally favorites. However, there is no surprise if any team wins the title outside of these teams. Each group has strengths as well as several weaknesses.

We agree, because after all the Champions League is different from other domestic leagues. in the round of 16 and the next round, each team will play 2 matches, either home or away. in this phase, each team will maximize its strength when competing against other teams. one mistake made by a player can have fatal consequences for the team as a whole. even if it's a strong team, they have the potential to be overthrown by teams that we don't expect. currently, the teams that are predicted to be strong competitors in the race for the trophy are Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. for me, these three teams have a chance to appear in the Champions League final. it's just that, we never know until it's time for the final round to be held. it could be that the three teams I mentioned were defeated by other teams who are also still involved in this competition. after all, the round of 16 had not yet been held. so, it is still not possible to determine which team will enter the final. so far, we can only assume and speculate because it is based on the team's strength, performance, and also how they play their matches in this competition. for me personally, I prioritize the beauty of the game in modern football.  Whoever the team is competing, let's just enjoy it. moreover, ahead of the crucial rounds until the final round. and there is no other way, but to follow every development until the end of this competition.
1198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there long-term profitable sports bettors? on: January 01, 2024, 10:17:16 AM
I wanted to open a new discussion on this issue. I recently watched a video about gamblers. There was a presenter who helps gambling addicts get out of the dark streak in their lives. He worked in the bookmaking business for many years. He believes that there are no long-term profitable players in sports betting. This is impossible by definition. If you start to win often, the bookmaker company begins to cut your odds, either reduce your winnings or block your accounts. It's as if the bookmaker is telling you, "You're not here to get rich." The presenter claims that he does not know any profitable players over a period of several years. There are rumors that such players allegedly exist. But where are they and who saw them? What do you think? Are there profitable players in sports betting?

Are there long-term profitable sports bettors?, I'm not sure and don't have the answer. because, I don't know how anyone is with their sports betting. we don't even have authentic data related to what you said in this thread. specifically, the claims made by a presenter said in this thread. I would also underline his statement, that he believes there are no long-term profitable plays in sports betting. I tried to think rationally, what the presenter meant. I mean, overall. because in gambling, especially sports, there are many options that we can do. if there is no ideal betting option for me, I will not have a betting session.

In addition, the presenter provides statements for other points. I ask again, what percentage of gamblers win compared to gamblers who lose? there is no need to even limit someone because of their winnings, because gradually someone will experience a phase where they will lose and this applies to gambling. then, why should a casino bother restricting every movement of its customers. especially, if the casino has a very trustworthy and credible reputation. and, wouldn't that have an impact on the big name they have built so far? back to what I said at the beginning, I can't answer that. because I gamble only with a limited bankroll within my means. so far, I have been betting on football for quite a long time. if you win you win, if you lose you lose. nothing limits me from betting even when I consistently win every bet I make. the question is, is there any validation provided by the presenter? or, this is just based on his opinion.
1199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 01, 2024, 09:45:12 AM
A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

let me express my opinion, if you like betting on any type of betting. especially if you like sports betting, for example football. there are many references that can make us rich in knowledge, whether it's about systems, patterns, player performance, rotation and everything that might be discussed by pundits who are experts in that field. for example, I always follow several experts, especially in the field that I like, namely football. we will get a lot of the latest information, which I might not have thought of before. usually, I will also try to look for other references from several experts. it's important to remember, I never compare one expert with another. why?, because all I need is the information they provide, especially that which gives me the latest knowledge or information.

Regarding when we choose to bet, we have our own resources and combine them from the information we get. this is very important for me to minimize losses in betting. the final stage, I will research it and analyze it from many aspects. after that, choose the bet with the ideal option. believe it or not, it's not uncommon for matches that I previously predicted to be almost close to the results of my analysis. although sometimes, what happens in the field is different from the scenario I described previously. my point here is that someone can believe and follow some predictions from experts and there is nothing wrong with that. what's wrong is that when they lose, most gamblers turn angry and annoyed at the expert. in fact, we ourselves are the ones who make the decision to believe it and follow the advice of its predictions. we should also remember what experts predict, even ourselves. nothing is truly perfect, precise and accurate. so, it all comes back to you how to deal with it. because for me personally, I prefer the results of my own predictions. whether it's losing or winning. well, for me that's where the art is when we bet.

1200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your New Year's resolution? on: January 01, 2024, 08:14:57 AM
Gambling has been a part of our lives if you are an active gambler, and as this year is about to end, I would like to know your New Year's resolution.

Please share it with us here, and please don't make your new years resolution like you will not gamble again, that's against the rule of a gambler.

Also, I like to greet you all, HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!


Before commenting, I also want to say to the community happy new year to all of us.

For me it remains the same, as in previous years. gambling for me, cannot be separated from life and what I like. there are times when we experience consecutive losses, and many are even unable to control themselves to end their gambling session. let's try for a moment, divert attention to something else. we all experience the same situation, especially active gamblers. personally, I don't have big expectations in my gambling either in 2023, or this new year. the essence is, do it with joy and have fun in it.nwell, many are unable to understand the meaning of the word having fun. this is just a tip from me, as a gambler. having fun doesn't mean we will always have fun in every gambling session. in fact, we are well aware that there are many other factors involved in gambling. the peak of pleasure is not just an achievement or big victory that we have. in fact, small wins can make us happy and forget our previous sadness which was caused by other problems such as fatigue at work. let's just enjoy it, but don't get carried away and end up getting us into problems that lead us to something bad. gamble as much as we can, if there is something more important. focus first, because someone will not get pleasure if their heart situation is not good. enjoy, enjoy and make it entertaining.  Don't focus too much on every defeat we have experienced in gambling. however, there are times when we will win, perhaps even a victory that is truly beyond our expectations.
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