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Listen Im not really interested in have a flame Woar. Lets just say, you got your point across and i got my point across and call it a day.
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PS: chained VPN > Tor
Don't even get me started... |
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*sigh* this is one of those conversations...  If you read my response again I never actually accused you directly of accusing me directly of being a scam. So if you're not accusing me of accusing you of accusing me of being a scam, attention to detail and professional communication is not your strongest suit. But , lets not play these, he said, she said games. Its possible to build trust while being pseudonymous, I have a reputation going back a while, if you care to investigate. Satoshi was anonymous yet people trust him. I would say he has quite a impressive following despite the fact nobody knows he is. But whatever you clearly don't want to use it, I wish you the best. Accusing me of running a scam has no weigh, I am committed to transparency, if you have any question feel free to PM me I would be happy to talk to you and answer any questions to the best of my abilities.
I'm sorry that you don't like how I talk, if you don't like my service. Feel free to stick to poloniex by all means. Still i think the concerns I point out are valid. Just because currently they allow deposits now it doesn't stop them from changing their ID rules or blocking tor nodes without notice like they did last time. They are operating a Finsen business, how long do you expect it will take?
They would never, what? Blocking tor exit nodes or forcing accounts associated with them to register is in the interest of the financial authorities. If you think you are anonymous using clearnet financial services, that they would never betray you, then I have nothing to sell. But, did they give notice last time? Just a thought.
Also pointing out that we have been hacked less times (0) than they have (50k USD ). We have security measures in place like ACID databases. I'm sure they do now after the fact. And yes they paid them back, they were pretty transparent about it.
Its clear that poloniex is moving to become more established and offer more mainstream services, that kind of business will inevitably turn its back on the privacy community.
If you read my response again I never actually accused you directly of being a scam. I said you were untrustworthy which is 100% fact (anons are untrustworthy be definition). So if you're not a scam, attention to detail and professional communication is not your strongest suit. Satoshi invented a trustless monetary system, yet here you are asking people to trust you. |
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It will be 15 Nov soon but ETH has not risen much like CLOAK. If your prediction is true, ETH would have gone up to 0.01 BTC by now.
Well, It looks like this coin in the short term window that I had called out was only good for an initial .0016 to .0040 (about 2x). The dip/rebound during 4-Nov was good for .0015 to .0030 (about 1x) if you grabbed it low and got out on the peak 09-Nov. The first run up was obviously a good chance for many to get some loot. The second run was more of an "awesome at timing" opportunity which would have been much harder to get. Summary: there was no "Cloak" and the answer to my question given the time period was "no". ETH seems to be in the bargaining phase right now. I shall now stand in the town center so that citizens can throw rotten tomatoes at me. * entertheabyss throws rotten tomato at Sir Alpha_goy |
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what happend with meeh?
also who are active devs now?
meeh is still somewhat semi-active, right now gnosis is working on memory leaks on 969, original is working on i2pd, cryptoslave is working on legit perams for the new "PID" kgw replacement https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_teamas of last meeting a week or so ago, main focus is finishing up 969 and getting that released asap, then gnosis and ssuag will work on integrating the existing ZC stuff into the new client for the latest join our irc2p dev channel: #anoncoin-dev |
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I don't think that the DOGED dev is anonymous, fwiw.
Anyway, maybe one way to get people to use your anonymous exchange is to offer some trading pairs of coins that aren't simple Bitcoin clones. For one, it would demonstrate that you're at least technically capable of working with different APIs, and that you're not just copypastaing some other (shitty) exchanges code. More importantly, since you promote yourself as a privacy-centric exchange, you'd be able to offer (imo) the most advanced family of privacy-oriented coins, Cryptonotes, and others with privacy features such as Bitshares 2.0 and NXT (not sure if NXT has released their coinjoin release yet, but if not it's coming soon).
Built from the ground up in Django. We have lots of unique features like option GPG passwordless/usernameless accounts and GPG 2FA which is pretty neat, and also I2P-Bote integrations, I2P bote is an anonymous, end-to-end encrypted, distributed email service. Our trade API also does some pretty neat tricks. I talked with the bytecoin and monero guys, but they dont support socks so I'm waiting on that. ATM I'm working on finishing the Trade API up (currently in public testing) and the translation framework. NTX and Bitshares will happen eventually, we are also working on integrating bitmoney, which an i2p native currency, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1241229.0Main focus isn't accepting 100s of coins but building a broader range of services, we are hoping to release a localbitcoins type service in early 2016 |
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Accusing me of running a scam has no weigh, I am committed to transparency, if you have any question feel free to PM me I would be happy to talk to you and answer any questions to the best of my abilities. I'm sorry that you don't like how I talk, if you don't like my service. Feel free to stick to poloniex by all means. Still i think the concerns I point out are valid. Just because currently they allow deposits now it doesn't stop them from changing their ID rules or blocking tor nodes without notice like they did last time. They are operating a Finsen business, how long do you expect it will take? They would never, what? Blocking tor exit nodes or forcing accounts associated with them to register is in the interest of the financial authorities. If you think you are anonymous using clearnet financial services, that they would never betray you, then I have nothing to sell. But, did they give notice last time? Just a thought. Also pointing out that we have been hacked less times (0) than they have (50k USD ). We have security measures in place like ACID databases. I'm sure they do now after the fact. And yes they paid them back, they were pretty transparent about it. Its clear that poloniex is moving to become more established and offer more mainstream services, that kind of business will inevitably turn its back on the privacy community.
ith public and verifiable owners like Poloniex (that allows you to withdraw $2000 worth of coin every 24 hours completely anonymously) Your exchange looks like the classic long con scam. Build up reputation for a while, then disappear once you have enough coins to make it worth your while. The perfect crime. I was interested at first but the way you attack poloniex in such a crude manner makes it pretty obvious that you're completely untrustworthy. What does "vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" even mean? I'm attacking Poleniex, so I am a scam? Isnt what they are doing going against Satoshis vision? Something about a free unregulated currency without govt control? Freedom and privacy mean no institutions, and no AML. Its my opinion that all clearnet exchanges are bad and this idea that complying with institutions makes you more reputable just depends on where you stand. Most people dont care about privacy, but for the ones that do I am offering a solution. Its possible that I am running a long con scam but it is also possible that I am providing a unique service to the cryptocoin community, that I care passionately about Privacy and about Freedom, and that running off with everyones money is something I am morally apposed to. But dont take my word for it, check out the exchange for youself "vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" means that they encourage their users to use ExchangeD.I2P, and they trust me. Financial privacy is important. Instead of complying with institutional demands that can and eventually will lead to a loss of your liberty, people should to commit to using darknet options, yes it is more risky, but the freedom is worth it Yes, the tactics you're using to slander poloniex and scare users into depositing coins onto your 100% untrustworthy exchange make it seem like a scam. Professionals don't use crude comments like "sucking regulators dicks since..." to defame their competitors. Maybe you didn't intend that, but there it is. Furthermore, you still don't even address why anyone should trade on your nameless darknet exchange when you can already trade 100% anonymously on Poloniex, a trusted exchange, and withdraw $60,000 worth of coin per month completely anonymously. This will be sufficient for 99.9% of crypto users, and I doubly the other 0.1% that need to withdraw more than $60,000 / month will trust some nameless exchange that can (and eventually will) go offline at your whim. So the "devs" of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark, who are anonymous themselves, encourage their users to use ExchangeD? Who are these people and what make their 'encouragement' carry any weight whatsoever? Are they trustworthy because they cloned their own shitcoin? Pointless marketing spin. You "caring about freedom" and being "morally opposed to running off with everyone's money" are just words on a forum. I'm sure I don't need to point out that statements like these are exactly what a scammer would say in the first place, making them utterly pointless. Personally i doubt you yourself would ever deposit coins on an exchange such as yours.. there is absolutely no reason why anyone should trust an anon such a yourself with their funds. |
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ith public and verifiable owners like Poloniex (that allows you to withdraw $2000 worth of coin every 24 hours completely anonymously) Your exchange looks like the classic long con scam. Build up reputation for a while, then disappear once you have enough coins to make it worth your while. The perfect crime. I was interested at first but the way you attack poloniex in such a crude manner makes it pretty obvious that you're completely untrustworthy. What does "vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" even mean? I'm attacking Poleniex, so I am a scam? Isnt what they are doing going against Satoshis vision? Something about a free unregulated currency without govt control? Freedom and privacy mean no institutions, and no AML. Its my opinion that all clearnet exchanges are bad and this idea that complying with institutions makes you more reputable just depends on where you stand. Most people dont care about privacy, but for the ones that do I am offering a solution. Its possible that I am running a long con scam but it is also possible that I am providing a unique service to the cryptocoin community, that I care passionately about Privacy and about Freedom, and that running off with everyones money is something I am morally apposed to. But dont take my word for it, check out the exchange for youself "vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" means that they encourage their users to use ExchangeD.I2P, and they trust me. Financial privacy is important. Instead of complying with institutional demands that can and eventually will lead to a loss of your liberty, people should to commit to using darknet options, yes it is more risky, but the freedom is worth it |
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Why aren't you using shapeshift.io, no hassle at all, just converting yyeeeaaahhhhh  Shapeshift is great and has no "fees" except they convert at like 10% under market rate. Do the math on that one. Not knocking it, just saying. |
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your concerns are legit, i get asked this specific question multiple times everyday so i'm kind of working on a canned response, forgive me: Are you going to run away with my money? Exit scams are rightfully a concern, being on the clearnet does not prevent this, check out, mtgox, vircurex, ect I have been active withing the i2p community for 18 months, and have been vouched for by the developers of anoncoin and dogecoindark, I also run another i2p eepsite, arc.i2p, (anarchist research center) its a bit in the early stages though. I am motivated by ideology more so than by money, if you spend any amount of time chatting with me on irc this is apparent. I envision a world were the darknet financially self-sufficient, where people can use the darknet exclusively, without having to launder their coins though clearnet exchanges. I want to make that vision a reality, that is why I built ExchangeD.I2P and i will continue to work until my dream is a reality. I want these services to exist more than i want to make money off of them. I intend to release the source code for my exchange if ever i suffer a debilitating hack, so that someone else build off my work and my failure, or once my service is successful where i dont have to worry about much competition and my code is properly audited by security professionals. W also run a generous donation program. using our exchange supports opensource privacy projects, and the development of altcoins. http://exchanged.i2p/donations-Abyss As far as volume goes, we still are getting the marketing bit down (this post is part of that). ATM volume is a bit low but we are planning on releasing the trade API this weekend and we have begun soliciting market makers. Check us out yourself and decide if you like it or not. Instructions for connecting can be found by clicking the image below:  Feel free to ask me any questions that you have I want to be as transparent as possible. ExchangeD.I2P (sounds interesting)
Ya we have been running for about 6 months, anonymous darknet exchange, no AML ect, 100% privacy. Ive been active on bitcointalk for over a year, when regulators have been cracking down, and I decided it was time for an exchange that doesn't suck Active in the anoncoin community and been vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and Dogecoindark. Its a great service for privacycoin traders that think requiring an ID to trade is bullshit. like how Craptsy is omitted from the poll Ya, lol nobody is even suggesting... ExchangeD.I2P (sounds interesting)
Polo ... LoL ... gonna need to see your ID if you want to buy these anon coins son.
Sucking regulators dick since... 10. BSA / FinCEN
Poloniex is registered with FinCEN as an MSB (Money Services Business), registration number 31000055869515. Poloniex may be required to file details of account activity to this organization from time to time.
11. (AML) Anti-Money Laundering & (KYC) Know Your Customer Policy
Poloniex protects itself from involvement in any activity that facilitates money laundering or other criminal activities by following the FinCEN guidance for MSB’s operating in the United States.
Poloniex aims to reasonably identify each user by cross-checking user data against governmental watch lists such as OFAC, as well as 3rd party identity verification and authentication services. If a user or a user’s transaction is flagged as suspicious through our internal controls, Poloniex will require additional proof of identification from the user and has the right to not permit any trades, deposits, and/or withdrawals until additional and verifiable proof of identity is received and the Compliance Officer has approved the user for use of the Platform.
By agreeing to our Terms, you acknowledge and understand that Poloniex maintains verification levels which require user participation and verification in order to obtain, with leveled permissions based on user-supplied information, our ability to verify it, and our internal policies. You accept that you may not be able to achieve a desired level of verification, and Poloniex reserves the right to determine, at its sole discretion, the appropriate Verification Level for any user, as well as the right to downgrade users without prior notice. Poloniex may, from time to time, implement policies restricting Verification Levels by nationality, country of residence, or any other factor. This may affect your ability to withdraw funds in your account and you indemnify Poloniex against any losses associated with an inability to deposit and/or withdraw funds based on your verification level.
AND:
17. PERMANENT WITHDRAWAL OF SERVICE
Poloniex may (a) suspend or terminate your access to the Services, and (b) deactivate or cancel your Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if Poloniex reasonably suspects you of using your Account in furtherance of illegal activity. You will be permitted to transfer cryptocurrency associated with your Account for ninety (90) days after Account deactivation or cancellation unless such transfer is otherwise prohibited (i) under the law, or (ii) by a valid subpoena or court order. If any transaction is in a pending state at the time your Account is cancelled or suspended, such transaction may be cancelled and/or refunded as appropriate. You may not cancel your Account to evade an investigation or avoid paying any amounts otherwise due to Poloniex. Upon cancellation of your Account, you authorize Poloniex to cancel or suspend pending transactions and, after providing written notice to the you, return the funds associated with such transactions to your wallet address. In the event that you or Poloniex terminates this agreement or your access to the Services, or deactivates or cancels your Account, you will remain liable for all amounts due hereunder. In the event that a technical problem causes system outage or account errors, Poloniex may temporarily suspend access to your Account until the problem is resolved.
Interesting. How's the volume? Also tbh, I'd prefer a decentralized exchange accessed via Tor/I2P. We've seen exchanges run away with people's money on the regular internet. Not that I'm saying you're not trustworthy or anything... But you know what I mean. It would be easier for people to run away in the darknet. |
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also consider joining our irc2p channel. we have an active community down here;
its really easy to connect:
just start i2p,
server: 127.0.0.1
port: 6668
channel #exchange
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Exit scam worries are important.
But right now i think 2 more important issues must be solved:
speed
stability
I tried to deposit few FTC but exchange freezed few times.
Perhaps this is on I2P side and it will be always slow as...?
Traders like speed, just saying.
hey there are 2 things that you can do to speed it up, 1) adjust i2p bandwith * go to http://127.0.0.1:7657/config* increase the upload/download cap, the more the better * save 2) increase shared client tunnels count. * go to http://127.0.0.1:7657/configtunnels* scroll down to where it says "Client tunnels for shared clients" * change "quantity" for incoming/outgoing to 6 * change "backup quantity" for incoming/outgoing to 3 * scroll to bottom and hit save ----- With the above 2 changes you should be able to have a much quicker, more stable connection. |
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Reading through it now, it is very sophisticated and implementing would be very difficult, and then even if it were it doesnt prevent anything from happening. There is another approach that I like which is voting pools http://opentransactions.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Voting_PoolsUnder this system funds are held in a distributed multi-sig accounting system made up of many trusted nodes. |
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ExchangeD.I2P (sounds interesting)
Ya we have been running for about 6 months, anonymous darknet exchange, no AML ect, 100% privacy. Ive been active on bitcointalk for over a year, when regulators have been cracking down, and I decided it was time for an exchange that doesn't suck Active in the anoncoin community and been vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and Dogecoindark. Its a great service for privacycoin traders that think requiring an ID to trade is bullshit. like how Craptsy is omitted from the poll Ya, lol nobody is even suggesting... ExchangeD.I2P (sounds interesting)
Polo ... LoL ... gonna need to see your ID if you want to buy these anon coins son.
Sucking regulators dick since... 10. BSA / FinCEN
Poloniex is registered with FinCEN as an MSB (Money Services Business), registration number 31000055869515. Poloniex may be required to file details of account activity to this organization from time to time.
11. (AML) Anti-Money Laundering & (KYC) Know Your Customer Policy
Poloniex protects itself from involvement in any activity that facilitates money laundering or other criminal activities by following the FinCEN guidance for MSB’s operating in the United States.
Poloniex aims to reasonably identify each user by cross-checking user data against governmental watch lists such as OFAC, as well as 3rd party identity verification and authentication services. If a user or a user’s transaction is flagged as suspicious through our internal controls, Poloniex will require additional proof of identification from the user and has the right to not permit any trades, deposits, and/or withdrawals until additional and verifiable proof of identity is received and the Compliance Officer has approved the user for use of the Platform.
By agreeing to our Terms, you acknowledge and understand that Poloniex maintains verification levels which require user participation and verification in order to obtain, with leveled permissions based on user-supplied information, our ability to verify it, and our internal policies. You accept that you may not be able to achieve a desired level of verification, and Poloniex reserves the right to determine, at its sole discretion, the appropriate Verification Level for any user, as well as the right to downgrade users without prior notice. Poloniex may, from time to time, implement policies restricting Verification Levels by nationality, country of residence, or any other factor. This may affect your ability to withdraw funds in your account and you indemnify Poloniex against any losses associated with an inability to deposit and/or withdraw funds based on your verification level.
AND:
17. PERMANENT WITHDRAWAL OF SERVICE
Poloniex may (a) suspend or terminate your access to the Services, and (b) deactivate or cancel your Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if Poloniex reasonably suspects you of using your Account in furtherance of illegal activity. You will be permitted to transfer cryptocurrency associated with your Account for ninety (90) days after Account deactivation or cancellation unless such transfer is otherwise prohibited (i) under the law, or (ii) by a valid subpoena or court order. If any transaction is in a pending state at the time your Account is cancelled or suspended, such transaction may be cancelled and/or refunded as appropriate. You may not cancel your Account to evade an investigation or avoid paying any amounts otherwise due to Poloniex. Upon cancellation of your Account, you authorize Poloniex to cancel or suspend pending transactions and, after providing written notice to the you, return the funds associated with such transactions to your wallet address. In the event that you or Poloniex terminates this agreement or your access to the Services, or deactivates or cancels your Account, you will remain liable for all amounts due hereunder. In the event that a technical problem causes system outage or account errors, Poloniex may temporarily suspend access to your Account until the problem is resolved.
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I support their goal of privacy but when they say stuff like this: For one, a malicious or compromised member of a ring signature can break privacy. It makes you wonder if they truly understand how a ring signature works in current solutions of crypto that already exist. If you compromise the only party in the ring signature (yourself) then yeah you break privacy lol. When you mix with other outputs in Monero you are the only person who knows what is really going on especially if you are using a high mixin number. This is also based on new cryptography (not tested for a long period of time). But if you want to risk using it that's up to you. They also do not address the drawbacks of using a zerocoin system as described by Dr. Adam Back: (they fail to point out the cons of using zerocoin in its current form) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dAdI3Gzodo&t=32m46s Zerocoin still has a trap door (i.e. in the RSA accumulator) Its possible to implement Zerocoin using RSA UFO's without a backdoor. This has been pointed out many many times http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.28.4015https://wiki.anoncoin.net/RSA_UFOEDIT: not saying they did, just that it is possible to do. |
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Poloniex doesnt give a fuck about privacy, can you add ExchangeD.I2P to the list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1092682.0the fist and only Darknet Cryptocurrency exchange. also 5% of altcoin denominated fees go to each coins development fund |
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For everyone who you would like to have as smooth trading experience and not have to deal with wallet issues. Trade on ExchangeD.I2P Instructions can be found by clicking the image below: Here is a portion of my contact with BTC38. I leave it to you to judge if they are being honest or not. Unfortunately, the history isn't long enough to see the beginning portion. Needless to say, I won't be using their exchange again.  welcome to china |
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For everyone who you would like to have as smooth trading experience and not have to deal with wallet issues. Trade on ExchangeD.I2P Instructions can be found by clicking the image below: Here is a portion of my contact with BTC38. I leave it to you to judge if they are being honest or not. Unfortunately, the history isn't long enough to see the beginning portion. Needless to say, I won't be using their exchange again. welcome to china |
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Best way would be to either post at our subreddit or PM SyllaBear or Jabulon in freenode IRC #blackcoin. @digicidal You know that you replied to someone who does not even want to know the answer and has been spouting out his foul shit for 1.5 years now, do you? Good post, nonetheless. ty, i contacted Jabulon, lets see how it goes.  |
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