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1181  Economy / Economics / Re: Bad impact when You carry out Online or Offline Loans on an ongoing basis on: July 08, 2023, 08:05:35 AM
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Avoiding getting into debt as much as possible needs to be done.
Debt is a burden that will hinder people in their activities because it will disturb their minds.
Many negative cases have occurred due to debt and the worst is the loss of life.

There are places where debt can help grow the income earned, such as in many big businesses.
Businesses go into debt because they see the potential profits that can be earned in large amounts when calculated at the end of the year.
If the capital is sufficient from the profits earned, then that is when they decide to end it by no longer continuing to be in debt.
Indebtedness is not not allowed, but it must be patterned properly and should not be forced to continue.
1182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Factors that make Bitcoin determine price of other cryptocurrencies on: July 08, 2023, 06:36:55 AM
I am aware that the value of other coins is affected by the price of bitcoin, which is the first and most well-known cryptocurrency. How and why various cryptocurrencies respond to variations in the price of bitcoin baffles me. 
Bitcoin dominance in the market is one of the reasons altcoin prices follow Bitcoin price movements.
In addition to trading with stable coins, many exchanges trade Bitcoin with altcoins such as BTC/ETH and BTC/BNB.
When the price of Bitcoin rises, the price of altcoins can also rise following the price of Bitcoin.

Investors and traders who are experienced with the crypto world realise that the ultimate goal in investment and trading activities is to get as much Bitcoin ownership as possible so altcoins are used as an alternative to getting Bitcoin.
1183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Accepting Bitcoin on: July 07, 2023, 05:52:09 PM
Since I joined this forum I have always wanted to invest in Bitcoin however Bitcoin investments in my country is not easy because of our currency value and the government is not in much support am currently working on convincing my mom to accepting Bitcoin in her tailoring shop i Also intend on hodling those Bitcoins
Not much support means leading to a ban. Is it true?
If it's true that your country doesn't support Bitcoin, don't force Bitcoin to be accepted as payment for businesses.
You can still do Bitcoin activity if you wish to continue using Bitcoin as an investment as long as the internet network can still be accessed as usual.

The value of your country's currency with my country and the countries of other friends is not the same, but it doesn't affect those of us who want to buy Bitcoin.

P.S. don't be because of your desire to get Bitcoin trying to convince your mother so that it can have a negative effect on Bitcoin [more people are wrong in judging Bitcoin just because of your mistake].
1184  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tentang Konten Berkualitas on: July 07, 2023, 05:02:02 PM
Kita kembalikan kepada masing-masing dalam menilai.
Jadi dalam sudut pandang konten yang berkualitas/berbobot, meskipun kita sepakat atau tidak sepakat dalam hati kecil kita akan bisa menilai bahwa konten itu memiliki nilai atau tidak, terutama konten-konten yang sifatnya analisa. Kalau untuk konten deskriptif biasanya cenderung ke arah penuliasannya, enak dibaca, enak dipahami, dan memiliki kualitas semantik
Ini sudah mengarah kembali ke isi diskusi karena sempat berbelok ke ChatGPT.

Tidak salah jika saya mengatakan semua kita kembalikan kepada masing-masing dalam menilai sebuah postingan berbobot atau tidak.
Kualitas dan kuantitas beda.
Sederhananya, sebuah postingan tergantung pada isi yang memenuhi unsur penulisan sehingga melahirkan rasa enak saat dibaca, mudah untuk dipahami oleh pembaca maksud dan tujuan postingan dan tidak bertele-tele seperti yang agan sebutkan.

Jika agan sebagai OP sudah menemukan tujuan tentang konten berkualitas, lebih baik dibuat kesimpulan akhir.

Dalam sudut pandang merit, merit diberikan bisa sebagai apresiasi atas sebuah konten (kualitas), ucapan terimakasih, dukungan, pertemanan, atau kadang malah sebagai pemanis joke
Ya benar gan.
sMerit bukan untuk ditimbun, tetapi didistribusikan. Itu yang lebih benar.
1185  Economy / Economics / Re: What's is daily budgets or expenses as a bitcoiner? on: July 07, 2023, 04:33:13 PM
I know everybody is not in a same class but still we all do budgeting, expenses and impulse.
Keeping track of outgoing budgets and incoming budgets is important for anyone, not necessarily reserved for bitcoiners.

How much do spend a day? Do you think is possible to program your daily expenses?
I might say that in one day it can reach $25. This number may decrease or increase depending on the needs of my family (wife and children), myself and my parents.
For other people living in my country it may not be the same number either. For those who live in other countries with different currency exchange rates, the numbers can also be different.
There are those who live their daily lives alone because they do not have other dependents such as a wife and children.

I record financial records in Microsoft Excel with a description format, expenses (cash out) and income (cash in).
1186  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Teknologi AI, OpenAI, ChatGPT itu benar Pintar? on: July 07, 2023, 04:02:08 PM
Kecerdasan AI ini anugrah jika di manfaatkan dengan baik, tetapi potensi di pakai penipu lebih mengerikan.
Alat yang baik akan menjadi semakin baik ketika diarahkan pada tujuan yang baik. Sebaliknya, teknologi yang baik akan menjadi buruk jika tujuan penggunaanya dibawa kearah yang jahat.
Ane menyadari bahwa kecanggihan teknologi seperti AI, ChatGPT dan lain-lain merupakan anugerah karena memudahkan kita kepada sesuatu hal yang bisa meringankan pekerjaan.

Menganai alat ChatGPT, sekarang alat tersebut sudah memiliki plug-in Bitcoin yang berspesialisasi pada penulisan kode untuk pengembangan Bitcoin dan lightning network[1].




[1]. https://twitter.com/BTC_Archive/status/1677308911131475974
1187  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The exit plan on: July 06, 2023, 10:47:06 AM
What are your exit plan and what exit plan have you used that work well for you.
Be patient and don't keep pushing. The exit plan is quite simple using the dollar cost averaging method and it's a very basic strategy in measuring and analyzing basic technicals behind many other strategies that most great investors might do.
The market is preparing for a fortress run as the current developments are starting to look good enough to continue to hold on to the assets already in the portfolio, if the current budget is enough to buy then this is still a good opportunity to add to the portfolio.
1188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Whats your thought on: July 06, 2023, 10:17:40 AM
Do you believe it was primarily driven by positive news, investor speculation, increased mainstream awareness, or a combination of these factors? How do you think this pump will impact the overall cryptocurrency market?
It can be said to be driven by positive news and demand.
For example, BlackRock proposed a spot Bitcoin ETF even though the SEC is still on their stance, but it had a very positive impact on Bitcoin's price movement.
A few hours ago, most of the day traders were already making profits as I monitored the price moving a little slowly towards $31,479 from $30,441.

As others have argued that we are very close to the halving, so hold.
1189  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Education and money as the key to Bitcoin adoption. on: July 06, 2023, 09:33:57 AM
Lack of education, technical knowledge, and awareness has been the major challenge for Bitcoin enthusiasts, it is high time we kick-start the mass eradication of Bitcoin illiteracy in our society, preach about Bitcoin, but don't force it on anyone, ... ...
First, convince yourself.
Second, tell the closest people like your wife [if you are married], sister, brother about Bitcoin. The things to tell them are the advantages and disadvantages. Tell them how to buy and store Bitcoin.
When everything about Bitcoin has been told to them, let them think before they decide to involve themselves or not.
With clear and directed delivery, they can judge for themselves the negative information circulating.
Rest assured, from them Bitcoin information will be widespread with good purpose.

Preaching about Bitcoin cannot all be done openly in certain countries. Maybe in my country Bitcoin and crypto are still given a chance as commodity assets, what about countries that prohibit their citizens from being involved in all forms of crypto and if caught will be given strict sanctions.

I always support efforts and efforts related to informing about Bitcoin to all circles with the aim that all humans understand and know about Bitcoin.
1190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kyc for accounts or wallets on: July 06, 2023, 07:21:55 AM
According to my Bitcoin understanding Bitcoin is an asset that should be owned by an owner anonymously  now my point here is Bitcoin investors especially newbies should be very careful with wallets and crypto accounts that requires kyc for verification most newbies may be shocked or confused but the reasons are for your safety
 kyc puts you personal information and privacy at risk it also gives ability for your transactions to be monitored.
So please before making wallet registrations always read through terms and conditions as well as privacy policy
Or rather get a hard ware wallet especially if you have large amounts of Bitcoin or other crypto currencies

Part of the Bitcoin idea was anonymous identity of users
 so as an asset owner you should support this notion
DON'T FORGET TO KEEP YOUR KEYS SAFE MATE!!
It's for the account not for the wallet.
KYC (Know Your Customer) is the initial requirement for users who want to register an account on the exchange. Multilevel KYC levels with different purposes are designated as withdrawal limits.
Not all exchanges require KYC, but most exchanges require KYC like the exchange operating in my country.

Asset owners already know that keeping Bitcoins is not in exchanges, but in wallets.
Do you already have a trusted wallet? if not, use Electrum and HW.
Privacy and security are the main elements that need to be considered by asset owners.

Don't store assets online, theymos says.
1191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin maximum price on: July 05, 2023, 10:09:58 AM
Let's see the market prediction by crypto community.
Of the 4 maximum value choices you made in the poll, $40,000 is the price I think will happen this year.
Despite the normal market activity of rising and falling prices, starting in June and now already in the first week of July, the chart position is very convincing to end up at the desired level later in the year.

Of course, some incidents can hinder the movement of the price chart, but from the few incidents that have occurred in the last few months such as the BinanceUS case with the SEC, there is not a big change in the color of the chart.
This is my optimistic stance in choosing $40,000 as the maximum year-end price.
1192  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I become a successful Bitcoin investor as a newbies? on: July 05, 2023, 09:43:30 AM
How do I become a successful Bitcoin investor as a newbies?
Desire -> knowledge -> experience -> consistency

For me, there is nothing too special if someone wants to become an investor for beginners.

From my experience, just the four things I mentioned will bring a beginner to become a successful investor.
From desire will give birth to knowledge in someone who wants to become an investor. Armed with the knowledge gained by continuing to learn, they will understand that in investing there will be such a thing as the risk of losing money so that it will become an experience.
Experience will bring someone to understand when the best time to buy and sell and others.

For those who are not ready for the risks that will be accepted, they will stop there. But for those who continue to be consistent, then they will continue with the belief that they will reach the desired goal.
1193  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: What Wallet Do You Store Your Bitcoin? on: July 05, 2023, 04:35:10 AM
Wouldn't it be best to store the BTC in a wallet that pays high interest?
It is considered good as long as the assets in the wallet are safe and it will be a regret when the stored assets are lost and so on.
Don't joke with wallets as a place to store Bitcoin.

If someone was to buy and hold, why would they get a wallet that doesn't pay interest?
Expecting profit when storing is not more important than security, privacy, control.
It's better to expect a return on the price than to expect a return on the interest paid.
1194  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [info] Bagi yang memiliki dana di Binance, segera pindahkan dalam waktu dekat. on: July 04, 2023, 05:46:34 PM
Sejak diberikan 10 hari untuk memindahkan aset namun untuk hari ini khususnya bitcoin telah berada di jalur yang lebih hijau, kekhawatiran sebelumnya terhadap aset bitcoin telah mereda dan orang tidak lagi melihat kondisi seperti ini dapat membahayakan pertumbuhan bitcoin khususnya, sehingga hilangnya kepanikan di pasar membuat semuanya seakan di lupakan.
Kita yang menyadari bahwa Binance dan exchange lain bukan tempat untuk menyimpan Bitcoin tidak boleh melupakan begitu saja meskipun grafik harga Bitcoin masih bertahan dijalur hijau.
Pengingat yang OP sampaikan selain karena masalah BinanceUS mengalami masalah dengan SEC, terdapat pesan penting agar tidak menyimpan aset di exchange karena kita tahu tidak ada jaminan.

Kekhawatiran akan hilangnya dana dan aset yang tersimpan di exchange harus diperhatikan jangan mudah terlupakan karena situasi.
Sudah banyak insiden yang terjadi karena pada awalnya mereka menganggap tidak akan terjadi apa-apa .
1195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Seniors vs Kids — in the future of Bitcoin on: July 04, 2023, 05:03:00 PM
I saw a news saying that in "2022 Crypto scams against seniors surged 78%", you might agree that one of the reason why these happened is the lack of knowledge in cryptocurrency. But a lot of seniors contributes to the success of Bitcoin.
Targeting people aged 60 and over because scammers are aware that the average thinking ability of people of that age is weak so they can easily cheat.
This is different from those under the age of 40 who still have a fresh mind in understanding technology and looking for updated information on new knowledge, so it is appropriate and natural for young people to be crowned the next generation.

If the context of fraud is addressed to all cryptocurrencies, maybe in general they also think Bitcoin is the same. I do not agree if generalized.
If the cryptocurrency in question is not Bitcoin but altcoin, on the one hand there are many altcoin projects that end in fraud and have a sad ending.
Bitcoin is not a cryptocurrency that will provide fraud. Bitcoin is very clear on its way.
1196  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Dengan adanya crypto apakah ekonomi anda terbantu? on: July 04, 2023, 04:30:32 PM
seperti yang kita ketahui sekarang nama bitcoin atau crypto semakin terkenal bahkan sampai ke pelosok desa pun mulai banyak orang yang tahu tentang bitcoin dan crypto. tentunya dengan adanya crypto dikalangan masyarakat menimbulkan pro dan kontra karena ada yang menganggap kalau crypto itu adalah perjudian atau penipuan dan sebagainya, namun adanya pro dan kontra itu adalah hal yang biasa.
Perjudian dengan penipuan adalah dua jenis kata yang berbeda dengan makna yang berbeda pula.
Bagi yang menganggap Bitcoin adalah penipuan, mereka pada hakikatnya hanya mengetahui Bitcoin melalui apa yang didengarkan dari mulut ke mulut bukan mengetahui Bitcoin dari sumber yang terpercaya.

Kita yang sudah mengerti tentang Bitcoin, maka meluruskan dengan jelas informasi tentang Bitcoin merupakan tugas kita.
Pro dan kotra bisa dimaklumi sebagai hal yang biasa, tetapi membiarkan hal yang biasa bisa berujung tidak baik.
Biasakan yang benar, jangan membenarkan yang biasa karena yang biasa belum tentu benar.

kalau saya pribadi jujur dengan adanya crypto membuat ekonomi saya terbantu karena menurut saya dengan adanya crypto itu bisa dianggap ada lapangan pekerjaan yang luas, dan tentunya dengan adanya crypto kita bisa mencari keuntungan, namun tentunya dengan syarat kita harus mempelajari dulu ilmunya dan tentunya siap mengambil resiko, dan yang paling penting harus menggunakan uang yang siap hilang atau bisa juga dengan menggunakan uang yang menganggur karena berinvestasi di crypto sangat beresiko, dan tentunya kalau menggunakan uang menganggur akan membuat pikiran menjadi tenang.

dan saya ingin mendengar cerita dari anda semua, apakah ekonomi kalian juga terbantu dengan adanya crypto saya ingin mendengarnya,, dan saya juga ingin tahu apa kunci sukses anda di crypto?
Sangat terbantu dengan Bitcoin dan sering merugi dengan kripto lain.

Menggunakan uang menganggur tidak selamanya membuat tenang jika digunakan untuk berinvestasi pada jenis koin yang tidak jelas.
Ketenangan bisa didapatkan jika konsep berinvestasi bisa dipahami dengan baik dan benar.
1197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: July 04, 2023, 08:38:37 AM
Yeah and what's there to wait for? Because for the past twelve months the whole community, including altcoins, has experienced LUNA crash, FTX bankruptcy, other centralized services bankruptcies, the bank runs in the U.S., and the SEC FUD. Bitcoin is still above $30,000, close to +100% since November!
It's not that I'm too arrogant, yes, regarding the matter of certainty, for me altcoins cannot be placed on long-term expectations and returns cannot be expected like Bitcoin.
Altcoin holders can argue that my opinion about the altcoin is wrong because more than twelve months I have seen several of them that are considered to have the potential to actually cause big problems, such as FTX and LUNA.

It is not impossible that other altcoins that have looked good so far and have the potential to suffer the same fate as the two types of coins we have said.
In contrast to Bitcoin which is still and will continue to be used as a hope.
1198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2024 will determined bitcoin fate on: July 03, 2023, 01:09:45 PM
Many expectations of bitcoin this year failed, but I notice that bitcoin always breakout into a new price after interval of five years, the last massive explosion of price was between 2017-2018 and since then, bitcoin has not record major price increase.
You just need patience and strength if you're still holding it. Make sure your grip is strong so it doesn't come off easily when there is a shock.
Who knows the big increase that is expected will not occur in 2024 which will make us have to be patient again for another year (2025).

Improvements always occur but not on a large scale. The effect of the highest price that occurs can be one of the causes for new people to have high hopes after the historic achievement occurred so that when the current price situation makes him think Bitcoin failed to meet expectations.
1199  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why Not Just Buy BTC? on: July 03, 2023, 10:38:59 AM
I've seen over one dozen websites believing that BTC will skyrocket in the upcoming years.
The platform I use is Coinbase.
I'm thinking of just buying BTC-USD and just leaving it be.
Any thoughts on this strategy?
Buying BTC-USD using the dollar cost averaging method is still very relevant to do, but don't let BTC be stored on the buying and selling platform.
Whatever platform you are going to use to buy Bitcoins and choose to just leave it on the buying and selling platform without moving it to a trusted wallet, then that is not a positive strategy but a strategy of handing over the safe keys to robbers to take your money.
1200  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tentang Konten Berkualitas on: July 03, 2023, 09:41:22 AM
Tetapi di kondisi lain melihat beberapa hal yang terjadi tentang AI ini sebenarnya saya juga sedikit bingung tentang apa yang benar-benar menjadi patokan dalam hal ini.
Saya membaca utas ini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448111.0 dan disana ada beberapa situs yang bisa menjadi sebuah referensi untuk AI Detetctor tetapi ketika saya mencoba mengecek sebuah tulisan disana ada beberapa hal yang janggal dan berbeda.
Sebagai contoh saya mengambil salah satu postingan saya dalam hal ini Contoh yang saya ambil dari postingan saya dari beberapa hasil yang saya lakukan dalam pencocokan dengan beberapa situs AI Detector hasilnya adalah seperti ini.

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Dalam kondisi inilah kita harus benar-benar untuk meneliti lebih jauh apakah memang tulisan dan beberapa orang yang dicurigai AI itu benar-benar AI atau mungkin ada beberapa tools yang digunakan di beberapa website yang memang menunjukan hal itu karena dengan kondisi ini saya pikir ini juga bisa menjadi perbandingan bahwa setiap situs memiliki cara kerja sendiri dengan penilaian apakah tulisan itu buatan AI atau manusia.
Sekitar dua hari setelah topik itu dibuat dan dari 5 situs yang tercantum di topik yang dibuat oleh nutildah atau pada link topik yang agan sebutkan, sudah saya lakukan ujicoba guna mengecek seberapa besarnya persentase sebagai human. Ketika saya melihat hasil seperti yang ditampilkan pada gambar agan Ryu_Ar1 cantumkan sambil tersenyum sendiri.

Saya pikir hanya saya saja yang bingung dengan hasil yang ditampilkan karena itu dibuat oleh kita sendiri walau tingkat persentasenya tidak terlalu besar.

Untuk bersikap hati-hati dalam meneliti tulisan yang dicurigai AI karena kita bukan penutur asli bahasa inggris, coba lihat seberapa sering kita gunakan kalimat yang tertera disini.
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