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11821  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 14, 2016, 02:10:59 PM
best way for that is to invest your bitcoin in good mining or other site
Bitcoin mining was a good think until the last halving came which messed things up for the people that were busy with mining.
Now it is better to just get a job and do Bitcoin on the side, best way for a steady for income.

Yes full time job is the best to have an steady income as you can plan your expenses according to that and you also know what amount of money you will be able to save on regular basis.

I will give + points on having a full time job since it is thr most ideal way to earn passive money will you can really on and also you can make sure for your job that your future is more secured since regular job is cannot be replaced by any other past time income like bitcoin, thats why we should thinl many times for this, bitcoin is not forever anything can happen for thjs one if bad odds will be happen so better to have a regular source of income so we cannot cry if bitcoins will die(hope not)

Yeah lets hope that bitcoin doesn't die in future but its always good to ready with an back up so if bitcoin doesn't work for us in future, we have enough savings that can take care of us.
As long as we continue to support it bitcoin will exist and it may even progress or improve, we are the one who control the life of bitcoin, without us bitcoin is nothing. As we can see, bitcoin is so progressive now as evidence by the continues price increase and that just prove that we are supporting bitcoin.
11822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: September 14, 2016, 02:05:39 PM
It can be considered gambling when the investor is only based on chart analysis, forgetting to follow the development of the project in which the investment is made.
good point if the investors is just reading the charts and not dealing with the real project and developments they are just staking to what they believes charts will bring them so its gambling to their fate.
How? Charts are very good companion for every trader. If you are able to read charts, then you can predict the market directions very accurately. Because visual things are easy to interpret and will be helping for decision making. I guess only when a trader believing on his luck, he will become a gambler but with his trades.
Yes, I too believe, only the factor luck will differentiate between trading and gambling. Charts are intelligent tools. So it cannot be excluded from traders' success formula. But, lacking of knowledge in trading and blindly placing orders are definitely moving your trading into gambling.
Yes, luck and knowledge differentiate trading and gambling. When you are having enough knowledge about your trading, you need not to dependent on luck factor. As long as you are not trading based on your blind decisions or simply based on your luck factor, you will not find your trading equivalent to gambling.

Well i think they're a bit similar when you're just new to trading and you're just trying to familiarize yourself with how it works but as you are able to understand and learn in the long run, chance and luck plays a lesser part
when you are new in trading you need to explore all the possibilities to gain, but you do not need to start with a bigger amount of money as definitely you are like experimenting in the early stage. In trading the longer you do the job the more you improve which is a different story for gambling.
Exactly, because experience is the best teacher and if you will not apply what you read in the book you will never learn and not all written in the book right and we will know that if we use it when we trade. Trading is risky therefore we need to be cautious and do not jump to any investment without careful planning.
11823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: September 14, 2016, 02:01:38 PM
Yes I do imagine most of the time, how my life would have been so prosperous if I was not introduced to gambling. No one is to be blamed but only the opportunities that internet has brought to our life style. Gambling is so dangerous even for the matured people then it would be highly injurious to kids to their studies as well as for health.
I also would not have been into gambling if there is no Internet access in my city. Because we do not have any physical gambling houses in our city. But, I do gamble a lot online.

I started gambling for free money but out of failing to control my emotions I do bet with my hard earned money too. Same thing is applicable to all kids, because they do not know how to secure their savings if they got introduced into gambling.
We are just victim of our weaknesses as a human because we fall for the trap of gambling, although we cannot blame gambling but when we play and we lose that is when we changes everything, our game plan was not being followed because we let our emotions dictate the game, so how much more the kids.
11824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: September 14, 2016, 01:51:30 PM
It is not just because someone is addicted and have no control over himself. It is greediness which provokes the player to maximize his profit or break the house using his best time. I am very calm player but couple of times I also went through similar condition. I successfully made profit and went off then in few minutes came back and lost all.

Are you playing dice game sir?  I my self experience playing it lol and sadly i really can get the self control i've always wanted so in the end i would lose and think also that the gambling site dice game isn't fair at all.
We can never know when we will win or lose, for me there is no assurance if you can win in gambling or not. This is always base on our luck and of course we need to be brave enough that we need to accept the outcome of our game when we lose. And for me acceptance is also important, so that we can accept the reality and we can move forward Smiley
If we can become professional in gambling we know how to control our feeling but we are not, we are subject to fooling our emotions and although the statistics is telling that we have no chance to win in the long run.
11825  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: September 14, 2016, 01:46:20 PM
Bitcoin can disappear?
And if bitcoin is a scam, what will happen in world?
People will panic?

Bitcoin is not controlled by a single person or organization. It in not in jaba if anyone. All over the world people are mining, using, trading bitcoin and it's totally impossible for bitcoin to get vanished at instant.

Bitcoin is not scam it's a cryptocurrency. If it's a scam them why we millions of bitcoin user are getting our profit.

People will not panic became bitcoin is not going to disappear and it's not a scam. Hope you learned something
Well, people who trust bitcoin will not disappear so basically bitcoin will still exist, it can only disappear if using bitcoin is a crime but I do not see that happening in the future because that is too unconstitutional, bitcoin has given benefits to its users so surely we might be legalize in the future.
11826  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: September 14, 2016, 09:09:23 AM
I think if you start trade in altcoins then you will be able to earn a bigger amount and if you will have a good investment then I hope that you will get 1000 BTC .
Hoping is not enough 1000BTC is a lot of money; you need knowledge, seed money, time and skill, besides while there is the possibility of earning big with altcoins there is also the possibility of losing big.
You need to do some actions then because you cannot reach that big amount if you will not work to get it, it is possible to get 1000 BTC which I think is the mission of everyone here but we need to do all the possible way to make consistent money online.
11827  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: September 14, 2016, 08:36:55 AM
I think that luck i more useful then skill since we won't know what the price of whatever you are trading in the future. If I was  trader, I'd like it the way it is right now because there would be room to get a high amount of profit(or loss), but I wouldn't mind a stable price s well, to prevent me from losing too much money.
Skill is more important in my opinion, but when luck, whether good or bad comes your way then you are like a boat on the sea, completely dependent on the sea.

Yes ,skill is the most useful on trading than luck . Skills are based on trading experience right? So if you have a more experience from which you learn from the way you use to trade ,losing ,or selling and buying early then your experience will be your skill so you will know the consequences on that move as the trading goes in the same way.
yes it is but even you have skills but if you are not lucky regarding to your prediction it will not give you a lot of earnings but even you are not really have skills but you have some luck you will earn still so better to have the combo.
The thing is there is no such person that has no luck in his life, I think we should only focus on our skills and let the gift of God be with us in times we need up, luck can be anywhere but we cannot rely on it everyday so we need to be more focus on developing our skills on the job we wanted to do or the profession we wanted to become.
11828  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 14, 2016, 08:28:02 AM
I pick bitcoin for now, because i think bitcoin have a good future and i'm sure the price of bitcoin will increase. That's why i choose bitcoin than gold and i'm sure it will give much profit by invest on bitcoin.
That's right as I think we are more investing here for bitcoin rather than gold, it is hard to invest in gold if you do not have a decent capital and I think gold is only for the people who have more money and they have more room for investment, for us, we should only focus and prioritize what is best for us and that is gold.
11829  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: September 14, 2016, 08:23:31 AM
Join a signature campaign,start trading,start lending BTC to people
You can also offer a service in the service section and get people pay you BTC for the exact service
Just try something,that's all
I think signature campaign is the most viable job here for individual who does not posses the skills which are in demand in the online world like programming. If you understand bitcoin it would be easy for you to join the campaign available here and it would help you to understand more on the necessary information you need to learn to start a most advance job like trading.

Yeah, signature campaign is the best way to earn money for me. You only need posting to earn money and there are also many ways to earn bitcoin. Like trading, join a giveaway, do a little task.

You cannot expect good income from giveaways and small tasks, as the payouts are too low but you can expect descent earnings from signature campaign and that is the best of all.
Of course,but you can use those bitcoins you get from giveaways to invest or trade just to learn the basics, once you know how to do it that is when you will need to invest on real money and then you will start to earn. Every information is here, so learn to read to develop your skills and your knowledge.
11830  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: September 14, 2016, 08:15:00 AM
It is easy to save money what you need to do is make a list of the things that you really need to buy and don't include the things that you want. Settling up your wants and needs is going to be important and you must prioritize first your needs for it. And once you are going to spend your money with it you are going to properly save money.

It's easy enough to save money, the question is how long can you last without giving in to temptation and spending your savings on something?  Grin Personally, I need to have a goal otherwise I'll start saving just fine but then I'll see something I like and dump everything on it. If I have a clear objective, like I need to save up $x,xxx for a trip then it's not a problem.
Well, it's going to be your  problem if you cannot control your self, saving money is very important to realize our goal in the future, remember tat we are not getting any younger in this world, we all grow old and we might not be effective as we used to be in the future so it is better to have an amont of savings that we can use to start up our own business and to spend in times of emergencies.

You can force yourself to save 1% of your monthly income every month. After 12 months, you will have some saving.
Well, that is a good start if you really want to save, when you are successful in saving 1% of your income then you can gradually increase it until you can reach your ultimatum in savings, it is good when you do it slowly but surely.
11831  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: September 14, 2016, 08:09:52 AM
Altcoins trading can be a good alternative these days... with the high volatility you may have considerable gains, but the same volatility may also cause you losses. It is therefore important to know the market before investing.

I agree that altcoin is one of the fastest way to earn or lose money.  You just need to be a bit careful and research thoroughly if you want to bet  all your capital in one coin else, diversion is a way go.  Invest in several altcoin at the same time.  This might be a bit safer because if one is not profitable maybe the others will be.

he better way to avoid any lose in altcoin is to not to invest in those coins which will have anonymous developers or will have lazy developers who will not care for their coins and will only be happy wit what they get with ICO.

all you said are only factors that may or may not be true about a particular coin or another.

the important thing you should always remember in any investment that you make is that you should investigate each investment closely and individually.
this means you should look at the altcoin announcement, check the coins code if you can, check out the developers team and see if they are competent enough, also check to see if other people are even interested in the coin or not.
It is the responsibility of a certain investor to investigate or study a certain investment because it is his money is at risk, when we are investing with a big amount of money, it is just right to make the right study before jumping in because even how good the investment is there are still flows that would make it unsuccessful if we will not be able to minimize the risk.
11832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 14, 2016, 07:52:02 AM
if i am rich, i would not gamble again but i want to make my own gambling site so i can make more money  Grin if the one site is success, i will make another site and invest my money on that site to build gambling site again. its just my dream, don't know if could be realize or not.
i think it is difficult to stop gambling just for the reason that you have become a rich person. because wee can see more richpersons in casino playing gambling, i have seen so many people who increase gambling when become more rich.

then i will apply for myself. i don't want to play gambling because i know i will become addicted if i am often to play gambling. so maybe making a gambling site is another way to earn more money for me.
Being honest to your self is always a good move. It is true that when you are rich and you tried gambling you will be risking your big money if you are not really into gambling you will be easily fooled by the emotions you will feel and may result to stupid decision of gambling the money not for gambling.
11833  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: September 14, 2016, 07:46:22 AM
They both come with their pros and cons. Investments always come with some risk which means more stress and you also need to constantly keep an eye on what's going on. But reward is usually high. Saving money is almost risk free and there is no maintenance work you need to do other than make sure it is secure. But your money doesn't grow as fast.  

Why can't we just do them both? Both of them give good benefits to us. Saving makes our money secure and investing makes our money grow. We cannot just invest and not make savings. That is putting our money inaccessible at some times when it is still locked on an investment. And if we put them all in savings, inflation will eat our money away. So, do them both and we are well taken cared.
The answer is obviously both, we need to save but investment is just optional. Investment are only for the people who are ambitious and are still longing to have a better life in the future because they are not contented with the present situation while some people who want to live simple life would be fine saving money consistently.
11834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: September 14, 2016, 07:35:27 AM
Someone just argued with me that gambling can be done by kid too.. Huh

What? Really?! That's not true dude! Its not for kids why do someone wants to make a kid a gambler they don't even have any job or they can't even get proper learning in gambling if they are smart they can and also if they are rich they should but in the right way smart or rich kid they must not be able to play gambling for their brighter future unlike us joke! if they play that's really a big trouble for their generation..
maybe this is the cause why some countries banned online gambling because they don't want kids became an addicted from gambling because for do gambling is very easy people could do it everytime and anywhere without giving their personal ID

government and the law usually don't put laws like this and ban online gambling because there is only a fear of kinds gambling online.

they only put these kinds of law in action and for example ban online bitcoin gambling because they can not regulate these sites and they can not take taxes from them because they are online and using bitcoin.
Well, I think you got it right, our government are run by corrupt officials who's main interest in just to make themselves rich through corruption, I believe a certain politician can easily make money when the online bitcoin gambling will be regulated because they will surely take advantage on the weaknesses of the operators to force them to pay.
11835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 13, 2016, 07:48:44 AM
Gambling is actually not wrong if you gamble  only for fun and do not spend to much or play to much. As we all know that all too much would always be not good.
Yup I agree. Because for me gambling is bad depend of a person who play this kind of activity. If you are out of control then you should not continue playing this but if you know how to handle everything I guess it's fine for you to play.

It's hard to handle it when you're losing. Very hard, because you want to get the money you just lost back.
That is true, but when you feel that you really don't have luck, it is better to stop or stay away in gambling immediately for you to not lose more money.
I hope that is the scenario all the time but most gamblers does not stop when they experience loses and they will only stop when they ran out of money. Really hard to control ourselves in gambling because of the mix emotion that we are going to experience.

This thing could really happen most of the time because of the person's mind set. As i have always said that the kind of thinking of person could really affect their actions. If you experience losing most of us believe that we could when after that but the truth is no this is really merely happens.
All of us should have a self-discipline especially when it comes in money or financial because once you've entered gambling we can really temp to play again and again especially when we get easily hooked with it. And the truth is it is really hard to quit in gambling when you are already addicted into it.
Because money is the most important to us to live a wonderful life in this world, having a discipline to manage our money is good although we are also gambling and we consider that as fun for us not to risk our finances and might ruin our life in the end.

Yes really manage money is very important for our lives in the future. In gambling is very important to be able to manage money for betting. If we can manage and have control yourself well probably will not be a problem. Because of the problem with gambling is if someone has become addicted and do not have good control, because it will make us lose.
That happens all the time when we reach on that level as a gambler, addiction is main reason why rich become poor and poor become poorer, if we could only gamble responsibly then we will have no problem in the future and we will continue to enjoy and appreciate gambling.
11836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 13, 2016, 07:25:16 AM
You need to find another hobby to occupy your time and attention. It's important to have the willpower to do so. If you continue with the problem, it may be better to ask the help of someone.

Nothing beats a day job if you want to be busy... That way your whole day is in program that you need to follow and if you care enough for your job, then you would religiously follow the rules, that way you almost don't have a time to think about gambling...  Mostly a person gets into gambling addiction because he is bored which can be solved by being busy in work and having a financial problem which can also be solved if you have a job..
letting your mind free of thinking about gambling that's correct and your whole self will adopt and you will start to forget about gambling.
That is not easy to do, when you are addicted all you want is just to gamble, take it from me because I have experienced that once in my life, when you have to regret after every big lose and then when time comes you have the money you still go back in gambling, regret are just temporary until such time you lose a big amount of money that will leave a remarks on you.
11837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: September 13, 2016, 07:19:02 AM
No gambling is not made for childrens.it is only for 18+ peoples.if you are under age of 18 then k request you to quit gambling.
You do not quit because in the first place you are not allowed to gamble, kids are dumb in gambling because they will think they can beat the system and since they do not have a job, most likely they will steal money from their parents which will make them a bad kid.
11838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: September 13, 2016, 06:53:51 AM
If you could filter out all posts containing the words "scam", "FUD", "troll", "cheap", "soon", "long term", "buy more", "x10", and "absolutely", this thread would be like 5% of its original size. Seems like the BCT altcoin section can't be saved Grin
Well they could probably close this thread and open a moderated one. Closing all threads on BCT would be ill-advised..

They said they would lock the topic long time ago, but it is still open. Actually they won't do it, because more and more people will shout this is a scam if the topic is locked
Well, this topic was once lock before and it was just re opened and as far as I remember when the thread was re open the price also surge but still below ICO, anyway, if this is a scam then panic selling would happen, it is just some people cannot wait for the development of this project.
11839  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 13, 2016, 06:50:30 AM
Why quit if your earning big amount of money on your job. You can only quit if your already tired on your work and decided to have a homebased job which is bitcoin.

No need of getting tired, If someone already knows he can earn more with bitcoin than what he is earning from his day job then he can simply quit his job for sometime and stay in bitcoin full time, but if someone is earning good enough then he should not do that at all.
Yes indeed every person is different. There are people who leave the main job for full time in bitcoin and usually they have more expertise. But there are also people using bitcoin only in my spare time alone and to keep working at a job the next day. But if I am better off using bitcoin in my spare time and keep working on the job every day, because it will be very profitable.
I know most of the people here are more focus on their job and bitcoin is just their side job and I commend those who are doing that at least they know the risk, really hard to defend on bitcoin alone when you cannot ascertain the future especially when you have a big family that you would support.
11840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 13, 2016, 04:56:44 AM
No there are no safe methods to gamble but its also logical there are no safe methods due to the fact that gambling is risky.
You cannot gamble safe because there is always a risks that you will lose a certain amount of money.

I agree with you there is no safe method in gambling because you are the one that is going to make money as you gamble. And if you are thinking that gambling is a good source of income then change that thinking because gambling is not made for having a good source but only for making it as a good source of entertainment.
We know that there are no safe method but still we are gambling regularly, that reason is because we are not only addicted but also we enjoy gambling and we consider our loses as part of the expenses to be paid just to get entertained.
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