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Well I can tell you that if they were poker players doing the casino circuit then that was probably all their cash. Gamblers are notorious for not keeping a stash. There argument will more than likely be they settled under duress. I haven't even read that article I just know there is so much of this going on I did a quick search and that was the first link from a credible source.
It is a great example and it illustrates why this can work very well for the state as long as they can bluff their way to a settlement. In fact you seize $100 with the objective of obtaining $10. There is zero deterrent effect here. I stand by my position that the only way to stop this kind of thing is to call the bluff right at the start, and refuse to settle. Now here is an interesting question: Do they even have to answer the question of how much cash they are carrying? It also illustrates the value of having a secret and legal stash of XMR in order to teach the state a lesson in the courts should the need arise. Now don't quote me on this (yeah right  ) But I think I remember reading that the first question people are being asked is, "How much money are you carrying", and if they do not give an answer then that is considered probable cause that a crime is in progress. And then a search is conducted. And if they do answer and some I read were as little as 1k they get there money seized right on the side of the road. |
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In the case of the two poker players in Iowa, months after their money was taken, they reached a settlement in which most of the money —$90,000 — was returned. They told CNN they believed it was the best deal they could have made at the time. Now, however, they are suing to get the rest of the money back and have asked for unspecified damages. The state of Iowa isn't giving it back and is not backing down. This is the classic mistake: To settle for getting 90% of the money back. Now they are suing after the settlement. The question becomes are their chances of success more or less now? Well I can tell you that if they were poker players doing the casino circuit then that was probably all their cash. Gamblers are notorious for not keeping a stash. There argument will more than likely be they settled under duress. I haven't even read that article I just know there is so much of this going on I did a quick search and that was the first link from a credible source. |
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...In these cases when the victim does has the resources to fight back they also have the ethical and moral responsibility to not only fight back but to also make an example out of the law enforcement agency or corporation involved in the courts.
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You must be bored.  I'm not sure I believe the OP but as was stated. laanwj commented on Jan 17, 2014
This is a problem with wrong information from a third-party site.
I'm sorry that this happened to you, but we cannot realistically solve this as bitcoin devs.
If you don't want your IP to end up on some stupid service on the net you could use Bitcoin from behind TOR.
I have no idea about the various comments on that issue. Many of them are nonsensical. But the issue of it being a third party site collecting the data is the whole point. Anyone can scrape the Bitcoin blockchain and to various degrees spy on the p2p. That information can and will be used in various ways and even 100% innocent people will get hurt by it. That is how mass surveillance (and big data generally) works. False positives are rampant. The best defense against this is to deny the data in the first place. EDIT: clarify mass surveillance as opposed to just surveillance Ahh, Ic. Thought you were pointing out a BTC flaw. This is by design. I'm always amazed when people think a unencrypted ledger cannot be read. Lol ...
I think that disclaimer was added after this happened. In fact I think it was added because of this case.
This may be correct, but regardless in this case the fault lies solely with the law enforcement agency involved. If they do not understand how the technology works they have no business using that same technology as the basis to launch raids. LEA does not fact check and does nothing when it's failures ruin people's lives. If you cannot afford the lawyers to fight the system then you have no rights. As such a large percentage of the population cannot defend themselves there is no incentive for them to change |
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What port for 4 270's
and also for 1 HD7950?
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You must be bored. I'm not sure I believe the OP but as was stated. laanwj commented on Jan 17, 2014
This is a problem with wrong information from a third-party site.
I'm sorry that this happened to you, but we cannot realistically solve this as bitcoin devs.
If you don't want your IP to end up on some stupid service on the net you could use Bitcoin from behind TOR.
AFA o-jasper commented 24 days ago
I'm sorry that this happened to you, but we cannot realistically solve this as bitcoin devs.
This is about having a secure network of peers. It is not Sybil-proof in terms of information that can be harvested. Given that apparently "tar pitting" is a term now, it might not be sybil-proof in terms of nodes not co-operating. The good news is that no hard fork is needed to change how the network works. You can just make a second one and have a sufficient number of nodes play in both networks. I don't quite grasp what he's saying about tarpitting having anything to do with BTC? Something new? And is he recommending Sidechains as a solution? |
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We've been waiting for the DB/GUI for almost a year. Smart mining is not going to happen anytime soon, we are talking years here...
Unless more competent developers take over...
And this is why I have him on ignore. Don't even bother quoting him. LOL, Must enable java script. Hah why so they can surveill? |
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I don't believe I have argued against this point at all in any of my posts
I'm of the opinion that the dev has picked the *right* anonymity approach to suit all those monetary priorities. Your stating that the basis for the rebranding is because the dev picked the "wrong" anonymity approach and that it can't stand on its merits as the leading "anonymity currency". But what you miss from your case is that before it can stand on its merits as an "anonymous currency" it needs to stand on its merits as a "currency" in the first place.There's no point in making the world's greatest "Hi-Def" TV if it can't receive a signal  This much is true (the bolded part) but I in no way stated that the Dev picked the wrong approach as at that time I think it was the only approach. I suggest that he has come to the Correct conclusion that mixing will not stand up the scrutiny of time nor the concerted efforts of dedicated Cryptographers (Just our Gov has enough of them to crack any mixing solution it want| hell they cracked TOR) and therefore rightfully made an adjustment to DRK's marketing to open up a direction that Dash can fill. Do you see the difference of what I said and what you think I said? |
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...I cant really understand French, is that a DDOS equipment reseller?
I've also found talking to The French causes an instant Disconnect. |
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^^^ Why is all this info so easily found out after the fact, that the accounts are all burnable and connected to scammers? I swear people do not do due diligence anymore.
This was the exact reason I posted what I did in the link I posted above.
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One of the great entertainments is reading the troll posts (and various other provocations)
A thread with harmony and no dissent (including imbeciles) induces no indignation and emotion (boring)
They certainly are a form of entertainment! This scene is never boring.  |
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This point will not be agreed on even though any cryptographer will tell you the same.
It's not a question of cryptography nor the "view of cryptographers", it's a question of monetary suitability. Cryptographers have done their job in ivory university towers and software developers are free to choose from a menu of options available to them across the board that best suit the task at hand. Contrary to the agenda that some people round these parts are trying to push, the "task at hand" isn't trying to hide from the NSA. It's producing an electronic token of solid practical, monetary and convenience value. I don't believe I have argued against this point at all in any of my posts, if I have please point that post out. I personally believe there are various uses for variously tailored forms of v-currency. If you are just saying this to argue against me then that is referred to as a logical fallacy specifically a "Red Herring". |
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If in fact DRK had been adopted as the anonymous king then it would have failed miserably as soon as the Gov wanted it to and it would have become worthless in one fell swoop
I don't agree with this point of view at all.... This point will not be agreed on even though any cryptographer will tell you the same. |
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A very well thought out post, but this is wrong. If in fact DRK had been adopted as the anonymous king then it would have failed miserably as soon as the Gov wanted it to and it would have become worthless in one fell swoop. The Dev did the only thing he could and rebranded. He is not stupid, he did this to save the coin and the hard work. Mixing will NEVER be safe, try to get that through your head.
A well thought out post on your part as well (it's designed to appeal to the uninformed masses to your own financial advantage), but it's also wrong. I was not going to go there. I try not to troll. Added: Also it was not designed that way, when the mixing was first started on, BTC was trying to go that route for anonymity and naturally Evan just decided to build it into his coin. Completely natural progression. |
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... Darkcoin, as the fantastic brand, should have been left alone, to grow among the lunatic fringes of societies, it should have been offered to Occupy where anonymity is needed, it should have been a part of Wikileaks, it should have grown among the people that fight for privacy, for our right to property, to our right to be anonymous when we want to be, it should've been a part of Tor, and it should've been a tool to help us fight for our freedom. And all over the world the people live in a much more oppressive societies than ours (USA or any other Western country) where we still have some wealth and some illusion of freedom, and them, in communist, totalitarian, murderous countries would've benefited greatly form what Darkcoin offers. It would've been an instrument for the said freedom. It would have a fucking stance, it would've been a contender ... A very well thought out post, but this is wrong. If in fact DRK had been adopted as the anonymous king then it would have failed miserably as soon as the Gov wanted it to and it would have become worthless in one fell swoop. The Dev did the only thing he could and rebranded. He is not stupid, he did this to save the coin and the hard work. Mixing will NEVER be safe, try to get that through your head. |
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@S4VV4S @xandry @iHashFury Please don't forget I'm from China, I use Chinese time format, haha These responses are also not suitable: 2014-07-22 2014-07-24 2014-08-26 2014-09-02  I thought he asked "Time" not "Date" but maybe something in the translation was lost? I forget and am too lasy to go back and look. |
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Paying for be listed in a exchange seem to me to be ilogical, the exchange must earn of trading fees only, while more coins more trading and more profits, really ufly the exchanges world
I think so too! An exchange that demands money for listing a coin should not be taken seriouly! Very true, Craptsy takes bribes and thats where coins goto die. |
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I am not saying that I'd want to make my transactions public. Rather, there isn't enough incentive to switch to monero JUST because you can keep such trivial transactions private. It's not a big enough motivation for most people.
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Of course I admit I have things I never want other people to find out about me. In fact, in comparison with the world (not the crypto community) I believe I lean towards the side that values privacy. That said, if in the future there is technology that can completely eliminate crimes before they are committed, because everything about the criminal's mindset is known, and that a computer can analyze exactly what I want, for example, what movie would interest me the most at that particular time, instead of having me search google for recommendations, read dozens of them then end up getting "tricked" by a misleading review/rec and wasting my time on mediocre movies.
I can certainly see benefits in having info collected.
The net sum of data collection is to build a prison around you 24/7 monitoring. It is the slow creep of it that is the insidious part most just don't see. It's just like slowly boiling a frog, it sits there and dies. Those born today are born into a prison they cannot even see. Have you ever been stopped by a cop and asked where your going, where your going to and why? These are infringements of your liberty and what if you don't want to answer them or lie and they have your surveillance at their fingertips? Maybe we should all just carry our movement papers with us. Letting these infringements pass without fighting them is doing yourself and more importantly your descendants inexorable harm. |
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I don't see monero being needed in day-to-day services. I really couldn't care less if that Aero bar I bought was anonymous or not. I think monero's niche is in *cough* blackmarket *cough* (quite unfortunately), but also in some large items that might garner public/friends, relatives and neighbour's interest. For example, buying/selling a house. It is also likely to be used as a store of value, since it is convenient in that it hides your net worth. I think this is where monero is stronger than bitcoin.
Perhaps in the future, when/if monero's market cap is significantly higher and more liquid, it could be an easy way for lottery winners to hide their assets, at least the ones who are/want to be anonymous. Lottery winners probably don't have the prowess, knowledge or network to effectively hide their winnings, and monero might offer a surprisingly easy way to do so. We've all heard of stories where lottery winners receive thousands of letters begging them for money, distant relatives who's great-great-great-great parents were cousins and "friends" they've met once at a coffee shop all come out to pester them with business opportunities and so on. They certainly have an incentive to use monero.
So what I'm trying to say is, I'm not even sure monero needs services, at least not the same services that are trying to make bitcoin mainstream, because I don't think monero's place is to function as a currency but as a store of value.
Really? Sorry for the rhetoricals, but do you want you health insurance to make statistics on your chocolate bar consumption? Do you want your boss to know when you stop buying prophylactics, or what you're buying at the pharmacy? Do you want merchants knowing your willingness to pay a certain price compared to other customers? Do you want to be censored/excluded/persecuted because you supported the democrats (insert any other political fraction) or wikileaks? Would you like for your customers to see the price you pay for the goods you sell them (and where you buy them)? Would you like that people can see you're visiting the psychiatrist - and which medicine he/she prescribed because of price correlation? Would the local diner like to see that all customers can see that some of the regulars get discounts? Do you want people (thieves e.g.) to see not just that you go to the movies - but when you go to the movies (so you are out of home), or that you are paying for things overseas (i.e. you are away on holiday). The examples are endless in my opinion. Very well said! ...
I don't want anyone to know anything about my finances without my consent. I guess other people don't feel strongly about that yet. Otherwise, XMR would be #2. I hate to wish for bad things to happen, but perhaps it will take a privacy/fungibility-disaster for people to finally wake up. Someone will be arrested by the police because of taint or targeted for theft or kidnapping after they reveal a high balance. Something will happen that will be big in the media and they will be forced to confront the issue.
Those that don't understand this and that the continuing data collection of every part of an individuals life is threatening to them just do not grasp the concept, or are part of the problem and profiting from it. |
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