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11861  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: whether bitcoin help you when you have financial problems? on: February 03, 2017, 05:20:32 AM
Something that might help, would be to move your income from Bitcoin, directly to a paper wallet and then giving that paper wallet to someone you can trust. This way, you will not be able to get to that money, if you do not have the private key.

This is like having a savings account, but you do not have the password. Alternatively you can use something with multi-signature. ^smile^

Bitcoin is a currency, not the solution to the worlds problems.
11862  Other / Meta / Re: Where Do I post? on: February 02, 2017, 06:56:42 AM
Thanks for the guidance and directions guys...

Ill try to get a post up keeping to the rules..



Do not post your referral link in any thread, because it will just be deleted by the mods. The forum rules do not allow for that. < ref spamming >

If this is a legal business and not some ponzi scheme, then you can do a review or a write up of this service and place it under the service announcement section. They might remove the ref link, if it is posted there. I would suggest posting the normal link without the ref, and then posting your ref as a choice option.   

If you post your referral in your signature and you spam the forum with non-constructive posts, just to advertise your ref link, then those posts will be deleted and your account banned.
11863  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: How saturated is the betting market. on: February 02, 2017, 06:36:03 AM
The market is very saturated with the same boring dice games. In another thread I suggested that people create something exiting and new, like hosting a "nude" gambling site. A lot of people thought it was a good idea, so there are a need for this.

There are 1 site I know of, that does this and they charge $400 subscription fees for people to join. If you can create something that people want, and not what you think they want, then you will be successful.

Bustabit <crash sites> is boring and to create it with another theme will just be as boring.

How can you go wrong by combining two markets? < Gambling & Adult entertainment >
11864  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: February 02, 2017, 06:10:08 AM

Both the faucet and gambling side, pay very little these days. This site was one of the best, but are below average these days. Look like they just holding on to survive from day to day. ^hmmmmm^

It's still the same mate because bitcoin price is way higher today.

Back when freebitco have a hourly rewards ranging from 500 to 1,000 satoshis, the price of bitcoin that time is around $200-$300. Now the lowest tier (in my area) is 200+ satoshis followed by 2,000 satoshis with the highest tier of BTC0.2. And if you convert it with the current price of bitcoin, still no change and equally the same back then if you do the math.

Valid point, and I know they adapt the payout for the faucet based on the Bitcoin price, but it is still lower than most faucets out there. < That said, these other faucets, do not last long > The thing is, faucet users are not bothered with the liquidity and long-levity of these faucets, but rather how much they can get from them. So they jump between the high paying faucets, until they close down. < There are many to choose from these days >  

So Freebitco.in might offer multiple features, but as a faucet it fails miserably in being competitive in regards to the payouts. < Yes, they will last longer, but the faucet users do not worry about that >

A "faucet only" site is built on Ads and loads of users accessing that site regularly. Why would people return to Freebitco.in, if the payouts are this small? < Freebitco.in is now a gambling site, with a faucet >
11865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How To Make Bitcoin A Better Stable Currency ? on: February 02, 2017, 05:54:31 AM
The only way for us to bring more stability in the Bitcoin markets, would be to distribute more bitcoins to more people. We currently have some whales with a lot of coins that can shift the markets at will. If those coins were distributed more evenly between more people, then you would have less volatility.

This is not a problem for day traders, but surely a problem for merchants that accept Bitcoin as a payment method, and those who do not convert to fiat regularly. < The price might have dropped, before they converted to fiat >

Some merchants use payment processors, so the volatility has less impact.
11866  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I-Am-Not-Anonymous; Am I ? on: February 02, 2017, 05:45:17 AM
I can't get what you're planning to mention in this thread. Simply described about few of the developers relating them with Satoshi. Finally have raised a question Am I anonymous?, it doesn't make any sense. Be clear with what you need to express.

What he is trying to say with a massive wall of text, is this : If you cannot bring concrete proof that you are Satoshi Nakamoto, just stop trying, to save yourself from the embarrassment. The community will scrutinize every claim you make, and if there is only 1 hole in your claim, they will discard the whole thing.

CW had many holes in his theory, and they ripped him a new poophole. ^smile^   

--== We are all, Satoshi Nakamoto ==--
11867  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: money or not? on: February 02, 2017, 05:37:47 AM
The buzz word in the industry lately is : BLOCKCHAIN technology. Bitcoin is the currency token being used on top of the Blockchain, but the Blockchain technology can be used for much more. < Example : Smart contracts > The FinTech world is changing now, and a lot of this is being pushed by investments into private Blockchains.

This move is stupid in my opinion, but try telling that to people who has very little knowledge on what makes PUBLIC Blockchains successful. 

If I were you, I would concentrate on public Blockchains. < cut your teeth on a new Alt coin >
11868  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [SEC] Ponzi schemes Using virtual Currencies on: February 02, 2017, 05:29:59 AM
You have to admit that Bitcoin as a global electronic payment method are making Ponzi's like this much easier. Just compare this to say, WIRE TRANSFERS. You would wait days for your money to go through, but with Bitcoin it is much faster, so Ponzi's can run more efficiently.

The main question is, what would they have used if Bitcoin was not around. Look at MMM as a perfect example :

МММ was a Russian company that perpetrated one of the world's largest Ponzi schemes of all time, in the 1990s. By different estimates from 5 to 40 million people lost up to $10 billion. The exact figures are not known even to the founders.
Founded: 1989
Ceased operations: 1994

Where was Bitcoin then {Bitcoin started in 2009}, and this was one of the biggest Ponzi's. ^hmmmmm^
11869  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: February 01, 2017, 06:38:15 AM
lately when playing usual dice i have only looses
Same happening to me I try many times but most of times I fail to bring any good amount because its mostly unlucky site for me in recent times I won some good amount on few other sites but this one is very hard to bring some good stuff for yourself

Well, you can check the provably fairness of each bet, so there are no sinister things being hidden. They have a high house edge, because it is their only source of income for the faucet these days. They previously had huge advertisement income, but they lost that or rather decided to stop that. < It was too much effort to administrate it, and easier to fund this from the lottery and gambling >

Both the faucet and gambling side, pay very little these days. This site was one of the best, but are below average these days. Look like they just holding on to survive from day to day. ^hmmmmm^
11870  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: The new generation of secure email on: February 01, 2017, 06:23:44 AM
I am curious, how are you going to penetrate a market, if you have to compete with similar sites like ProtonMail ? They have the same business model and funding structure and they barely survive on donations. They are also under constant attack and protected by Swiss privacy laws. < This has also been influenced by talks between them and the USA government >

ProtonMail has over 2 million users and in November 2015, ProtonMail was under several DDoS attacks that made the service largely unavailable to users.

They maintain two redundant data centres in Lausanne and Attinghausen (in the former K7 military bunker under 1,000 meters of granite rock).

How are you going to compete with this?
11871  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Western Union is getting destroyed by Bitcoin in Switzerland on: February 01, 2017, 06:03:26 AM
Remittance can only work, when people can send money from one destination to another at the same fee. The Swizz WU branch might have zero fees, but what about the person on the other side? How much is he paying on the other end, to receive that money?

WU/MoneyGram still have the advantage that they have on-ramp and off-ramp services globally for Fiat conversion, and this advantage is gradually eroded by the ease of use and user-friendly apps that are being developed to transfer Bitcoin globally. ^smile^
11872  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC How To's for Noobs - Buying on Coinbase, removing funds to external wallet on: February 01, 2017, 05:48:27 AM
Why Coinbase? I am not a big supporter of any centralized exchanges, and for this reason I buy most of my coins directly from people. I go to meetups and build relations with people there, and then I start trading with them. Localbitcoins is good, but tricky.

I would like to move away from the dependency built on third party services and exchanges, because they are the single most vulnerable point of failure, as was shown with MtGox & Bitfinex.

Deal directly with people and avoid third parties. ^smile^
11873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Yet another reason to hate and reject SegWit altcoin on: February 01, 2017, 05:39:08 AM
Just before Hearn left he floated Bitcoin XT as a scaling solution.  While it got a significant showing of 'votes', it never really took off.  A major reason was due to all the DDOSing of XT nodes. 

This is pure and simple corruption.  If we are taking a vote, we have to let the vote be free and fair or we won't know the true result.  The Blockstream team is full of this kind of corruption and BS.

Same goes for this forum.  The heavy censorship here is totally corrupt.  They were trying to silence any opinion against SegWit. 

Even if I loved SegWit technically, even if it did provide some good advantage, I wouldn't go that direction.  The people behind that side of the story have repeatedly proven themselves untrustworthy.  SegWit/Blockstream/Core/Lightning are corrupt.  They will lie, cheat and steal to take over the network.  I don't want them in charge. 

We need to get Blockstream out of the Core influence.

Politics 101 - Everything goes, just ask Trump. ^smile^

First, Mike Hearn was not a victim, he tried a hostile takeover and even tried to slip some "backdoor" malicious code into XT and it failed. They even faked some nodes, to inflate their node count, and that failed too.

The goal of this forum is to discuss Bitcoin, hence it's name : Bitcointalk, not to promote Alt coins or to tolerate discussions that would harm the experiment. < They leave room for constructive criticism, up to a point >

If you feel strongly about Blockstream, then rally support for BU somewhere else and let consensus make the final decision.
11874  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price ready to increase ~$25 USD per day during this year. on: February 01, 2017, 05:26:29 AM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-will-reach-10000-might-take-another-year-tim-draper

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Three years ago, Draper predicted the Bitcoin price to reach $10,000 by now. He remains optimistic regarding the increasing Bitcoin value and expects it to reach $10,000 in a year:

“I predicted a $10000 price on Bitcoin in three years about three years ago. Might take another year.”

That equates to 9,000/365 = $24.66 per day. Luckily, the blockchain is now able to handle all them transactions. It is able to ain't it? Surely, them behind-close-doors meetings were producing such solutions, attendees only taking breaks to advance a rumor or two as fodder for respective trade rags, eh?

We all so wish it increases by that margin on a daily basis but realistically and historically looking at the first month of the year it's been a forward and backward dance and so I don't really feel it will soar up by $25 daily but it can of course rise by that margin some days.

Bitcoin can be very volatile my friend. We have seen massive increases and decline in price, within a few hours. The smallest thing, sends the traders into a panic frenzy and then the bots kick in and everything goes to shit around here. A Chinese government official can only fart in his office, and it starts a ripple affect and eventually ends in a shit storm.

I do not think a increase like this will happen over a long period, it will happen in several days after a major announcement. ^smile^  
11875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Possible outcome if Bitcoin do not implement SegWit and LN on: February 01, 2017, 05:14:50 AM
Blockstream did not dump all of that money and time into SegWit and the LN for it not to be used. People are already talking about the possibility that SegWit/LN could be adapted to be incorporated into other Alt coins, like LiteCoin.

So let's consider this for a moment :

LiteCoin or some other Alt coin use SegWit/LN and it is a huge success as a Peer-to-Peer payment network. Bitcoin users migrate to this Alt coin, because it is cheaper and faster.
 

STOP! Ok and why do you think BTC users will migrate to LTC? And also which BTC users are we talking about? The casual buy and hold types or the hardcore darknet market user types?

Your reasoning to support your hypothesis is asinine. BTC users will not migrate to a segwit activated altcoin just because.

You know, I would rather be pre-emtive and forward thinking, to be prepared for whatever might happen than being a sheep and being close-minded to the possibility that things like this might just happen. LiteCoin would be the obvious choice for most people, because it has been around for many years and has shown that it can step up to take Bitcoins place.

LiteCoin has a bigger Coin cap and it is faster too, so watch this space in the future. ^smile^

https://news.bitcoin.com/segwit-litecoin-soft-fork-road/
11876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Possible outcome if Bitcoin do not implement SegWit and LN on: January 31, 2017, 07:19:45 AM
Blockstream did not dump all of that money and time into SegWit and the LN for it not to be used. People are already talking about the possibility that SegWit/LN could be adapted to be incorporated into other Alt coins, like LiteCoin.

So let's consider this for a moment :

LiteCoin or some other Alt coin use SegWit/LN and it is a huge success as a Peer-to-Peer payment network. Bitcoin users migrate to this Alt coin, because it is cheaper and faster.

Bitcoin is left with a few hoarders that occasionally make transactions, but are mostly interested in it's store of value properties. The question is :

1. Will it still serve as a store of value, if it lost a large portion of it's active user base? < less demand = lower price >
2. Will the remaining users generate enough tx's to make it profitable for miners to continue mining in the future, when Block rewards become unprofitable and increased tx's is needed to generate enough miners fees for miners to continue mining?
3. Will Bitcoin increase the Block size, when they see this happening or will there be no need, because tx's will drop?
4. Less nodes = weaker decentralization. < People leaving >

What are your thoughts?
 
11877  Economy / Speculation / Re: What the price would be if there is no Bitcoin scaling in next 5 years? on: January 31, 2017, 06:43:26 AM
The answer is simple, Blockstream will apply SegWit and LN to another Alt coin like LiteCoin and it will function as a true Peer-to-Peer digital payment system, and Bitcoin will loose users to whatever Alt coin that incorporated this. So you will have a 3rd division in this community.

Bitcoin will then serve as a store of value for the hoarders, until it lose enough value that they too will also abandon it. Miners cannot survive in a scenario where mass hoarding takes place. No tx's = No mining, and NO mining = NO Bitcoin.
11878  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Mass Adoption even possible.. on: January 31, 2017, 06:33:29 AM
Well Bitcoin is defined as a commodity and commodities are usually traded on stock exchanges. The average person on the street might find it difficult to comprehend the fact that Bitcoin can be traded like a stock and used as a currency. We have a new technology here, that are not clearly defined yet.

People are lazy, and will over think this without spending the time to experiment first, and this will cause problems with future adoption. 
11879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Chinese miners fucking stupid? on: January 31, 2017, 06:15:51 AM
What am I missing here? Apart from the Block reward and the miners fees, a additional income stream are added for the miners, if they host a hub a  hub manager will receive income from that, and this income might even be more than the income that was lost from reduced on-chain transactions.

Why would a miner not accept a change in the protocol that could possibly increase his income from fees?  

Have you done calculations that compare Miners Fees VS Hub hosting fees? < or potential fees >

Hub Hosting Fees will cause the Miners to lose onchain Fees to any LN hub they don't host.
LN is a scam. Might as well just use a Bank.


 Cool




What is stopping anyone from hosting a hub? If the miners are not hosting hubs and losing income, then they should just blame themselves, not the people hosting the hubs. I think some people are making this more of a issue than what it is supposed to be.

I am not a strong supporter of SegWit or the LN network, but I can see the value and the solutions it might bring to some issues we have now.

Until I see a direct impact analysis that compare the "possible" loss in miners fees, compared to the financial gains that can be achieved via Hub hosting, I cannot make a clear decision. Some has obviously made these calculations and they have shown their support for this. ^hmmmmm^

Hmm,
If you don't understand LN will cost the Miner fees, you really have not looked at it.
I suggest you research it so you know what you are talking about next time.
You should get a clue , that is why the Chinese Miners have been blocking it.    Tongue

A blocksize increase would fix the transaction issues without involving the shenanigans of LN offchain processing.

 Cool

I have a pretty good understanding of what is being attempted with the LN, but I think the miners are just as uncertain about the outcome of this, as many of us. Has anyone projected the possible impact of this based on tx growth that would be made possible and what income will be generated from hosting a hub?

Xapo is also making use of the same principle, the only difference being that their off-chain tx's are not part of the Bitcoin protocol.

A block size increase has it's own risks, but I guess that is what Satoshi anticipated. < small natural increases >
11880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Heading for a brick wall. SegWit failed. on: January 31, 2017, 05:52:58 AM
FUD. I have made many transactions all with .0001 to .00015 each in fees and I have never encountered a transaction that took more than a day. Sometimes it took a few hours longer but it did not take very long. If what you say is true then there should be hell in this forum going on right now. Relax everything is alright.

The only reason there's no 'hell' on this forum is because the vast majority is delusional and everybody keeps telling everybody else to look the other way and everything is fine. Meanwhile the house is burning.

Explain to me how the refusal of SegWit adoption and currently continuous full blocks are not a big problem, please enlighten me!



It should be obvious to everyone that the full blocks have very little to do with natural increased usage, and more with "Spam" attacks targeted at influencing people's minds to simulate a situation where SegWit/LN is urgently needed.

The miners actually thought very little about this, and nearly wiped the inflated backlog in a day or two. Yes, we need to scale, but not when it is forced down people's throat. ^hmmmmm^
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