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11901  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: August 03, 2016, 06:58:32 AM
I think today bitcoin can be regarded as an investment and the bank is a place to store the fiat money right? basically we can use both
( bank and bitcoin wallet) because we need to save bitcoin in  bitcoin wallet. and we still use fiat to pay everyday life. I think we need both

Yeah, as I have said before is we really do need these two things. Bitcoin wallet to save our bitcoin, while the bank used to take bitcoin that we exchange with fiat Smiley Because we know there is still sparse physical stores that accept bitcoin and the way this is done by most bitcoin users.
Our interest with bitcoin now is not really to transact online because we are more interested on the investment side of bitcoin, I know banks offers deposits but it is really not good than the possible amount we can earn with bitcoin if we are risking our money by putting it as investment.
11902  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: August 03, 2016, 06:52:28 AM
I'm not, why? I dont have the funds to do so. Anyways, if I had the funds to buy btc, I still wouldnt do it.


Well for me even today is the good time to buy bitcoins today, I am not still going to buy bitcoins today even though the price is going to be low at all.
Because I don't have enough budget for buying bitcoins too, but if you have enough funds then it is going to be a better choice for you.
And you and he saying do not have an enough fund for buying btc and same still not going to buy bitcoins. but what are you doing to giving advice for another to buying bitcoin in this time?
It is just an advise man and no big deal with that, we can always give an advice though we have not tried and experience it in our lives. If we are a good reader we have a lot of information which will add up to our knowledge and we can share a very interesting advise here for the benefit of all.
11903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 03, 2016, 05:42:38 AM
Exactly. Even working for an employer has a little bit of risk.  You can get fired or get in an accident on the way to work. There are always risks in life.

I do agree with you , even if you have a job  theres still risk on losing it, as you say  you may be get fired or  get an accident, no one really knows what happen next. Back to topic i wont really gamble even if im rich, money is important  on living in able to survive and you can buy your needs dont waste it  on playing gambling.
Definitely true, therefore we should not only rely on one job and as much as possible we have to established our own business to experience the freedom of making money, we will have a great chance to progress in the future if we are managing a business that we owned.
11904  Economy / Speculation / Re: The future of Bitcoin on: August 03, 2016, 02:43:54 AM
I am getting quite skeptical about the future of Bitcoin. The usage and adoption is not increasing, and at the same time, the altcoins are stealing more and more users away from the BTC. A few days ago, Ether became the first altcoin to achieve a $1 billion market capitalization. And this was achieved despite a major robbery occurring in the DAO.

Bitcoin was the first cryptocurrency to exist and after that many versions of virtual currency have popped out and some are not included in the  coinmarket capitalizations. But bitcoin will continue to exist, as long as other coins exist bitcoin will continue to be the standard coin. It will be considered as the primary and the official cryptoccurency that will represent dollars online.
With the present achievement of bitcoin, I can say that we have a big market and will soon be stable. It will not just die very easy as we have already survive the previous economy crash and in every crisis survived bitcoin is getting stronger and time will tell until we have the massive adoption that we all long to happen.
11905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 03, 2016, 02:30:12 AM
i think i will still gamble if i were rich because i have a lot of money and come to think of it that i can win more but the important thing is you need to control your self from spending a lot of money. just be observer and make it just for fun, not for seriously like loosing all your money or worst, maybe your properties and investment? well no thank you.
There is no problem in your side to gamble because when you are rich you have the liberty to do whatever makes you happy. To be rich is a privilege and that privilege should be properly use and we have to be careful in gambling as rich people have so much to lose than the poor people in gambling.
Yes, I agree with that and how I wish I am a rich person so I could go all around the world and gamble as I can. Gambling is very risky for those who cannot afford to do it while with the rich people they all have the capacity to do it and they will enjoy the most. Some people sees gambling as a way to make money but they don't know there chances so they lose in the end.
11906  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: August 03, 2016, 02:19:57 AM
Before today I only saved my bitcoins, but today tried to gamble on slot machine. I didn't save too much and when I lost all I wasn't so disappointed haha. Well, at least I tried to, now I am more sure that gambling is not the way to increase my bitcoins. But this commenting gives me  regular profit, so I will continue to save, cause of that way seems more saved to me.
Spending is just fine regardless on how you spend it but you should put limit. I have to understand that we all have to feel relax after a long hours of work just to earn bitcoins, for me that is how to balance life and we should not only focus to working alone.
11907  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to sell? Or to buy? on: August 03, 2016, 02:07:43 AM
Again, another big price fall back today, I guess this is the time to buy more bitcoins to earn in a short term investment as definitely the price will be back again in the next few days. For those who panic you are free to sell but mind you this is just a game played by the whales and the price will be back to normal again.
11908  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: August 03, 2016, 02:03:40 AM
Many factors that preventing to count how much bitcoins do you need, i don't know how much money will cost bitcoins soon and also i don't know what will happen in 20 years.

True to some point you must have some amount of bitcoin stored no matter how much you think the price will be
Well certainly we need bitcoin as much at the time, because we will not be able to guess what will be the bitcoin at the time, the price is down or up, we do not need to worry about that if we have very many bitcoin. I guess it would be the same, but I think at the moment it is only bitcoin already really high
Since we are talking here for a long term investment, we should not panic for any market crisis with bitcoins, our goal should only be one and we should focus on that goal, let us save and save until we reach the number of bitcoins to accumulate base on our goal.
11909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: August 03, 2016, 01:57:00 AM
You can invests BTC and 40+ cryptocurrencies in this site: www.cryptosdice.com, It is new, but is here for the long run!
How can you be sure that they will be here for a long run, that is the promises of most new gambling sites but trust is earned in this kind of venture and that is the most important element for a successful gambling business.
11910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 03, 2016, 01:53:18 AM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin
More losess when i meet gambling that is the worst thing i never forget in my life because all my earnings in trading got lost in 2 hours that very bad i'm very sad that time and i want it to get it back so i deposited it again. Then i lost it all so i decided to not go in gambling because gambling ruin my life. Now i do focus in trading and here in forum.
That is the possibility that will happen to you if you cannot control yourself, it is just normal for a person to be rage in gambling because when the outcome does not favor us, we always make ways to recover our loses and without self control we will be force to spend our money that is not intended for gambling.
11911  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What stuff you buy when you win gambling? on: August 03, 2016, 01:38:50 AM
I usually pay for my subscription services like netflix and hulu as soon as I win. The rest I put into investments and a bit I use for games or ingame items. Sometimes I can turn the in-game item into a lucrative purchase so that's a nice bonus ^^
With the current price we should put our our earnings in bitcoin as investment because the moment the price will start to pump, we might even win at least 50% of our investment which is not possible to make in gambling in a safest way.
11912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Starting Bitcoin based Casino on: August 03, 2016, 01:31:57 AM
I think online casino will require much higher amount of money for starting, especially the advertising need much more money, the better choice will be that you start an offline casino, with that you will earn more profit.

Could you elaborate? I'm not sure I follow you here. Offline casino?
There is no such thing as offline casino unless you are making a casino in your area. It is already known that the casino business is profitable but you cannot just start simply start with your business because you need to put up a large capital to make that kind of business.
11913  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 02, 2016, 07:42:37 AM
If you want too get rich then work hard on different programming languages.learn to code in elegant manner.then in no time you will be rich.
Code in elegant matter and in no time you will be rich.It sounds really easy as you are saying no body can be rich in no time.
Hard work for long time and having patience is the key
Just big Jackpot can make rich in a day otherwise you need to do hard work with good planing to become rich many done hard work for long time but still not become rich because they are wasting time without proper planing
I think the only people who do not have the spirit and not working hard enough just to rely on the jackpot to get rich. You would not know you're a
lucky person or not so I think do not be too dependent on the jackpot and luck. you have become rich from your efforts alone

Those people is one time millionaire if they win millions of money it will disappear in one click because that money take it in easy way without exerting effort that is very different to those people who are working so hard to get rich they will manage their money well.


From rags to riches and back again
Definitely, we cannot be poor again it we come from rags to riches situation because we will surely protect of our wealth as we don't wanna get poor anymore. Being rich is only easy when you win the lottery but the hardest part now is to protect your money.
Agreed if we rich for our being hard working our wealth will be protected by us but if we getting rich in gambling i think that will not be last long your wealth will be disappear easily. that is why we do not rush every thing to get us rich.
If we are rich in gambling because of our luck we will surely be poor again but if we are rich in gambling because of our skills we will continue to make money in gambling and that is the benefits of being a professional gambler who can get their living from gambling.
I love gambling and I dream to become a professional gambler but it is just gambling for money is not really for me, to be honest I am at currently in the losing side of my gambling career but I have accepted that a long time ago and would never be tempted to gamble more to get back my loses, I am enjoying now and that is enough for me.
11914  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do bitcoin accepted in your country? on: August 02, 2016, 07:37:33 AM
Technically bitcoin is legal in my country.
But too few shops really accept it.
So I hve to stick to the online payments.
I think if there are no shops yet that will accept bitcoin then we can easily cash out it into fiat, that is not necessary if you are not a spender, you just simply create an account at the exchange sites in your area and then cash out or if you want you can still save it for the future.
11915  Economy / Speculation / Re: PANIC BUYING !!!!!!! on: August 02, 2016, 07:21:59 AM
Isn't it smart to buy when the price dips like this? Then when the recover happens you are sitting like gold with a profit that you pulled in when you are ready to sell.Smiley
I think the panic buying will raise the price of bitcoin. I pikirhal right when the prices down is to see in advance when the volume
began to swell. you can try to buy because I'm sure the price will go up. and you can benefit from the price increase
Now is actually to buy if you want to make money in short term investment, the fall back of price will not last and it will go back to 600+ in the next few days, believe me I have seen this before and I am more focus on the future so I would not do panic selling and with just do the opposite.
11916  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 02, 2016, 07:05:22 AM
invest at bitcoin and holding it until reach price $100.000  Cool Cool Cool Cool
You cannot just do that without a definite time, what if after 100 years the price will not achieve yet? In that case, are you still holding your bitcoins? As a real investor we should have a good plan in investing and follow that regardless of the outcome of our investment.
11917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: August 02, 2016, 06:58:21 AM
Never lost money when investing in gambling sites.

Technically, unless the site robbs you or get hacked, you can't statistically lose anything you know ^^
That's the worst possibility to happen because we don't know the site owners, the only thing we have with our investment is just the word "TRUST", and sites do need that too because without it gamblers will not patronize and our investment will not profit that would lead to the owner to scam the investors due to the losing operation.
11918  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: August 02, 2016, 06:54:00 AM
Bitcoin wallet is better way to save our money
no higher fees, full privacy

right it, i agree with your opinion, it's full privacy, but for buying anything we can't use it. we need to withdraw our bitcoin to fiat if we want use it.
so better to using bank too, don't leave it.
But, a lot of people in here never thinking about the guarantee for their money. whether bitcoin has a guarantee for your money? ok,for you sentence, never leaving the bank. because the one parties are covering the another party.
For me i choose the bank for securing my money because it has insurance.
And also i choose bitcoin for spending online and also it can be use as an investment.
We cannot live with only one, banks will just safe keep our money and I have not find away ways in the bank to make a good investment with a decent return, only in bitcoins where we are given the opportunity to invest less with an expected good profit margin in the future.
11919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever won a unexpected amount with a small amount ? on: August 02, 2016, 06:46:15 AM
you can win a lot by playing multiple bets: of ocurse you would need to get all your bets.
Three times I was able to win around 1 btc by betting a very small amount on more than 10 games (I used to play on football like that).

You can try
Consider yourself lucky that time, I have to tell you that you small bets technique will not take you anywhere in gambling and for me that is just how to play if you are having fun. On the other hand, if you like to make money in gambling then putting a decent bankroll is required and consistent winning in the long term is a must.
11920  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 02, 2016, 06:36:05 AM
You can stay away in gambling if you have self contol. Sometime you think your lose so you can think to go back again in gamble. Maybe its hard to do that but i know you that turn to others get busy do not think gamble for you to stay away in gambling. Do trading or get busy in your work so you can not do gambling.
Staying away in gambling is the desperate decision for every gambler, once a gambler wants to stay away that means he is addicted in gambling and he is not doing great in gambling, maybe he is not enjoying or making money in gambling or could be both reasons.
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