I am not sure this a suitable to be on by default. This will cause a great amount of lost bitcoins because unsophisticated users are careless.
+1 This is fine living in a separate branch. Being able to recompile a branch is a nice barrier of entry for the tech. clueless. This SHOULD be included in the default client. Reason being, it is incredibly useful for people who know how to use it, and not all of us know how to use linux or feel like spending hours on Windows attempting to compile the source with all of the dependencies. Discluding a feature like this from anyone who doesn't know how to compile c code would be a terrible thing. +1 I'm actively using this feature and I would love to give out qr-codes (sealed) of privkeys to friends. Actually I gave one to a friend, but he's not supposed to open it before 6/17/2012. So I'd really love to have the feature in default client by that time ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Otherwise I'd have to compile bitcoin for windows, which I really would like to avoid. Most "normal" users don't even know they can use RPC commands. I think compiling a branch is too high a barrier. This is also needed for bitbills, btw, which is a pretty cool project as I think.
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I just go my yubikey from mtgox. It's awesome.
I wanted to use it with online password store lastpass.com, but they want USD 12 / year to become premium member.
I suggested they should accept bitcoin payments. Would be a nice fit, since they're already heavily into crypto and they could really grab up some security-aware bitcoiners with yubikeys.
Not expecting any bounty.
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2. To use as a transactional currency. This is the real appeal of the bitcoin. But there is no reason for someone to convert dollars to bitcoins and buy something unless it is illegal. It is inconvenient and provides zero protection against theft or fraud.
You've clearly never purchased anything using bitcoins. It beats the crap out of paypal or credit card purchases in the convenience department. Yes but it offers zero protection against scam sellers. And paypal is super convenient for the buyer, just sucks for the seller. That's another HUGE issue. If I pay someone in Bitcoins, I have zero recourse once they're sent. I can't even prove I sent the money to the seller because it's all anonymous. If you can prove the merchant showed you a certain address, you can easily prove you sent money to that address by showing the transaction id. The first part might be a problem, though, maybe a good merchant should sign a bill including the payment address so customers have proof?
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Any merchant who accepts Bitcoins needs to cash out really fast. We're seeing 25% changes in a day, and 10% changes in 10 minutes. By the time a Bitcoin transaction is confirmed, it may have lost 10% of its value. You can't run a business on that.
Calculate with +3% lower rate, then, right after payment, automatically try to cash in the money at mtgox. If success: all is good, ship order, if unsuccessfull: tell user you can't sell at that price any more, offer new price or to abort order or return the BTC.
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I must object. Hight supply is a problem if you want the price not to drop (which is implied by OP). A lot of miners decided to join when the price was at $30. They mostly joined for a quick buck, not because of bitcoin and it's features (see troll post above). These people have to throw their mined coins to the market, to recoup their investment and pay utility bills.
But people are continuing to mine, the network hasn't stopped running because a few decided to stop. Even after the cap is hit, transaction fees will get people to keep mining. I didn't say anyone stopped mining. Mining is still profitable, even at an exchange rate of $5. I said many miners must sell their mined coins. Just 3-4 months ago, one could mine 20 BTC per day with a €700 EUR machine. You need something like 20 GHash/s for that nowadays, that'll cost you $10.000, and if you look in this thread (watch out, hardware/cable porn): http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7216.msg321184#msg321184, you can see that people are doing this. I don't think they make such an investment with some "spare fiat money" they have laying around and then just keep the coins, they sell them. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) This must be a misunderstanding, I'm not saying anything against bitcoin, and I never said it would fail. Yes, miners sell coins. What is your point? How is this a mark against Bitcoins at all?
Of course miners sell coins, if they sell more, the price will fall: normal. Not a mark against bitcoin. Oh no, gold miners sell gold!!! Gold will fail!!
Honestly, what point are you trying to make?
My point was to object to your saying that (high) supply is not a problem (for the bitcoin exchange rate, I assumed), which I objected to, because high supply will lower the price. Maybe I misunderstood and you meant supply is not a problem (for bitcoin itself)? If so: I agree.
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I just pasted version 0.2. It should: - Fix the regular expression problem reported by pyna and molecular.
- Add support for multi-pattern searching.
Does this mean I might've generated invalid addresses? I imported one (the one that had "molec" in it correctly) using importprivkey. If that works, does it mean the address is ok?
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In contrast to your analysis, I believe that we are on the right shoulder and that is strongly negative, should that pattern be completed.
When I read the original post I thought: yeah, looks like a guy with 2 shoulders who is looking right at me, so the price will drop (his left shoulder is on the right hand side of the chart).
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I must object. Hight supply is a problem if you want the price not to drop (which is implied by OP). A lot of miners decided to join when the price was at $30. They mostly joined for a quick buck, not because of bitcoin and it's features (see troll post above). These people have to throw their mined coins to the market, to recoup their investment and pay utility bills.
But people are continuing to mine, the network hasn't stopped running because a few decided to stop. Even after the cap is hit, transaction fees will get people to keep mining. I didn't say anyone stopped mining. Mining is still profitable, even at an exchange rate of $5. I said many miners must sell their mined coins. Just 3-4 months ago, one could mine 20 BTC per day with a €700 EUR machine. You need something like 20 GHash/s for that nowadays, that'll cost you $10.000, and if you look in this thread (watch out, hardware/cable porn): http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7216.msg321184#msg321184, you can see that people are doing this. I don't think they make such an investment with some "spare fiat money" they have laying around and then just keep the coins, they sell them.
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Supply:
Supplied by miners. Any serious operation NEEDS to sell to pay utilities. That creates a steady supply of bitcoins offered at market price on a regular basis.
No they are introduced by miners, and supplied by miners and anyone holding Bitcoins. Supply is not a problem. I must object. High supply is a problem if you want the price not to drop (which is implied by OP). A lot of miners decided to join when the price was at $30. They mostly joined for a quick buck, not because of bitcoin and it's features (see troll post above). These people have to throw their mined coins to the market, to recoup their investment and pay utility bills.
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maybe I found a bug, or maybe I'm using regex wrongly:
"./vanitygen/vanitygen -r [Mm]oL[Ee][Cc]" gave me 1H3fttgZCe89zhViCRmk7DX8JmoLJ2mvTV (missing "ec")
found 1BYYdM3vfndwmoLec6tQjcx7sAeLRxTvTq with the same command
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sucks to have a name with illegal base58 characters in it ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Will try "vanitygen -r [Ww]iLL" (no need to use [Ii] and/or [Ll] because l (small L) and I are not in base58, I think. EDIT: found one in seconds: 1NZED7AR8hb wiLLkTWwXgZvM89FZqFiXnj
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More difficulty = higher BTC price
There's (at least) two ways to change this assertion in order to make it true (instead of false, which it is): - 1.) higher difficulty => lower price
- 2.) higher price => higher difficulty
1.) is easy to argue: difficulty rises when people freshly investd in mining hardware. They want to recover their investment so they put the bitcoins on the market => higher supply => less value 2.) is also pretty clear: a high price creates incentive to mine and makes mining more profitable => people invest in mining hardware => difficulty rises I never understood how higher difficulty would drive the price up.
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I'd like to present a standalone command line vanity address generator called vanitygen.
awesome! thanks!
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Why don't you just mine -testnet. You can bust a laptop CPU out on that thing and get 2700x as much in testBTC as you would in crappy regular namecoins.
Shhh, silence! Testcoins are the new bitcoins, but don't tell anyone until I have hoarded enough of them.
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The geek in every family can set up the family's own bank using some open source bitcoin banking software.
Dude, wait! Being responsible for all the friggin' computers and everything that ever happens to them is troubling enough already and I'm more than glad I quit that job a long time ago. Being responsible for my families money being safely stored in some opensource wallet? No thanks!
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All Bitcoins will be pegged to virtual credits in a database, like current payment processors.
Rewind a couple of centuries: we have gold, but it's too hard to be used by "normal people" (divisibility, safe storage), so we store the gold safely for them and write down in our books who owns how much gold. Additionally we hand out slips of paper (notes) representing certain amount of gold that can be used by people to trade much more easily than gold. We can also start a bank and lend this new money to people so they can start businesses. (Of course we will demand interest to cover the risks) We can even lend out more money than we have bitcoins for, because only a fraction of people will demand to have their bitcoins at any given time (why would they want them anyhow, since you cannot conveniently buy anything with them) This also gives us a great tool we can offer to people who wish to stimulate (certain parts of) the bitcoin economy: we simply increase the money supply and lend out the fresh money by lowering interest rate and therefore pump more money into the economy. Of course they will also have to pay us back at some point. Well, "history repeats itself". It is clear we have currently a problem with adoption of bitcoin and it is unclear wether or not bitcoin can make it without help of sub-currencies. I sure hope it can: bitcoin is more promising than gold, because - it's easily divisible
- it's easily countable
- it's easily transferrable
I would really like to avoid the problems that would come with such a solution (and are actually overcome by bitcoin): - accountability (privacy issues, taxability, need for money laundering)
- trust requirements, security issues
- possibility of fractional reserve banking
I'm not saying you shouldn't go that route, Atlas, but I'm still hoping for naked bitcoin adoption... it'll take a lot more time and effort, though (mobile clients, wallet security, shared keys,...). I'll be patient.
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I made a simple trading client for the mtgox trading api a while back: https://github.com/molecular/traidor I gave it an overhaul and I thought I'd share it, maybe someone likes it. Features: - display market depth and recent trades
- display mtgox balances (BTC, USD)
- manage own orders (view, buy, sell, cancel)
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyBkRQ.png&t=663&c=Y2TVHvC9Jwf-tQ) To get started, first checkout the code: #> git clone git://github.com/molecular/traidor.git #> cd traidor
then prepare config-file and start traidor: #> cp traidor.conf.sample traidor.conf #> edit traidor.conf #> python traidor.py
The most important commands: -----------command------------- | ----------action------------ | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | a | toggle auto-update on/off | b <amount> <price> | enter order to buy <amount> btc at <price> | s <amount> <price> | enter order to sell <amount> btc at <price> | o | view your order book | d <index> | delete order at <index> from orderbook |
Note: you must use a decimal point (".") when entering the <price> of an order. If you dont, <price> is interpreted as an index in the depth table (1st column "[IDX]") and the order is placed just above/below the price at that index. If you use and like it, consider a small donation to 1Ct1vCN6idU1hKrRcmR96G4NgAgrswPiCn
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Some value in mtgox's database are counterfeit coins now? I just wrote "$ 1.000.000" on a piece of paper, arrest me! I just "faked Dollars"! If bitcoin taught me one thing, it's that (most) journalists are lazy, weak and possibly corrupt opportunists with no self-respect - not to be trusted.
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