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11921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 07, 2016, 01:41:15 PM
Yes. Absolutely yes. Thats the reason why I earned almost 80% of my bitcoin. That's because of my gambling styles. Yes, I encountered many loses but still I am earning bitcoin on gambling sites. I usually tend to play everyday, everynight.
Well, it's good for you since you actually won 80% of your bitcoin but many users here lose 100% of their bitcoin, I play sometimes in some gambling site but I did not win 50% of my balance in fact I lost 20% - 30% of my balance so gambling is not profitable to earn bitcoin, if you want to play it needs a luck and knowledge to gain your winning.
The majority of the gamblers have an opposite experience than yours because majority of the gamblers are losers and they keep losing while they are still playing to at least prove their method that they can win. You are lucky you belong to the winning side of the gamblers.
11922  Economy / Speculation / Re: Be sure, this will drop hard soon... and here is why... on: August 07, 2016, 03:34:12 AM

yes, you are right, yesterday when I saw the price at $516 and I found that t is because of bitfinex hack, then I thought that it will once again rise sooner and so I bought some bitcoins at that price, I was a little worried about my investment also but today when I visited to price i saw that the price is now at$536, that is a very good news for me and I earn a profit even in a bad situation for the bitcoin market

Today, the price is $570. I think there is nothing wrong with the bitcoin itself, just one exchange, so the price will rise again.
yes that is a fact and now the price of bitcoin is raising again, the bad news about the bitfinex really effect the whole market and the prices felldown too much but now the people understand the reality and now they start buying bitcoin again , and hope that the price of bitcoin is going to reach to its previous position very soon.
It was a big amount that was stolen but the overall market is still stable, we have witness a lot of crisis that happens before but here we are, bitcoins is still improving and there is a good future ahead of us, so hold tight fellow investor and strengthen our faith in bitcoin to experience a good future with our profit.

The bitcoin price has recovered about 20% from the recent bottom. The price will rise again to $600.

The price might go above $600 in the next few weeks. Then it will consolidate there for a few more weeks.
That would be probable to happen base on the current trend now, we should be more positive as it will really happen. The price is increasing and that is a great sign that we can recover to the price of $600 in the next few days and we may even witness a price increase as a halving effect also.
11923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 07, 2016, 03:26:53 AM
Although there are some who actually get rich from gambling, like lottery winners, in general I think you have a higher chance of getting broke than to get rich. So to answer the question, yes there are people who are lucky enough to get rich from gambling but that is a very very very low percentage compared to most gamblers that get broke.
Yes maybe their are some who became rich from gambling but i guess only few. its hard to earn in gambling what more to be rich. i think they were just lucky or they bet big amount and win thats why they became rich.

I am sure that people who are getting rich with gambling are the house edge only. I don't know if there is someone that is a normal player or gambler that did became rich with gambling. Maybe those people or individual that really have a very lucky win and won a big amount of pot as they are gambling. But for the house edge they are really the ones who are becoming rich with it.
Only those people with real interest on how to make money in the gambling have the chance to become rich, in one will take gambling as a form of investment which he will put up a capital or bankroll for his gambling career then he will do necessary measures to minimize his loses and to increase his winning percentage.

Treating is like a business would mean you need to track your record and do not integrate your personal expenses to your business.

I totally and 100% aggree with this. If we are serious of getting money and be rich through gambling, we should do our homework and calculations. We should treat it as a business and work.

To start off, we should have big bankroll and divide it into many sessions and then follow a system that you will not involve emotions on it.
We can find a lot of methods and techniques in the internet about how to become successful in gambling. The problem with most of the gamblers is on the implementation process as they are more easily affected with the emotion in gambling and they cannot implement the procedure effectively.
Well i don't think any of those method found on the 'internet' will ever work for you, you need to have luck to get success in gambling. if you play games like poker or pvp games  you might have advantage against weak player and make money.

It is then best way to build many sessions to increase your chances of becoming lucky. With only 1 session, you are just have 1 chance of 1 to get lucky but if you have many sessions, then you will get more chances of getting lucky.

P.S.: The number of sessions and amount of bankroll is dependant on the payout calculations. you don't want to have many sessions in a very less liely winning chances.

Yeah your right,


Paying game in more sessions rather than in just one all in game do multiply the luck you may get or experience,
But also keep in mind that you also do multiply the risk that are always besides those lucks you may have.

But for me I do play in more sessions rather than just all in betting.
Play only on more sessions if you want to enjoy the game in the long run but if you will aim for money it is better to play all in so you will not be taken advantage so much on the house edge, if you are lucky for the day then you win and if not you will lose, that is how simple gambling when you aim for money.
11924  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: August 07, 2016, 03:14:51 AM
That's really our goal to see a stable price in the future, if we see a consistent increase of the price of bitcoins, we are feeling happy with that because that implicates that new users are coming in which makes the price eventually increase.

When the bitcoin price is stable, more people will use it as investment or currency, the price will rise further.
There is no chance for us already to make good money when the price will be stable, that means the early phase is done already. Right now is actually the best timing to invest since we are still in the young age and we have more room for improvement that will affect the price to  rise.
11925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do bitcoin accepted in your country? on: August 07, 2016, 03:10:25 AM
Yes it is getting more popular everyday than before hope to get more companies pay salary for their employees only in btc


It will take long time to happen that all companies will start paying salary in bitcoins, but it will be more popular in future and many companies will start using it for sure.
yeah I think it will take a long time maybe 5-10 years in the future so that bitcoin could be more popular and well known that many people will begin to adopt and use bitcoin. mayne include many companies that will adopt the bitcoin. we wil waiting for it

Yeah the future of bitcoin is bright and it will be widely used and accepted in future we just need to wait for the right time for it to happen and we would be able to spend it hassle free.
Not all the things we can buy with bitcoins especially when the amount involved is a considerable amount of money, sometimes we prefer to know who our transacting with to feel comfortable in transacting online, only when there is a platform that would be supported by the community to comply with the KYC policy will the transaction on online shopping will increase.
11926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 07, 2016, 03:02:00 AM
gambling is based on luck not on stratgy. if you are using maths to win sometime then you can not win in a long run you will have to face the house edge at the end which no one can win
I do have to say that there can be some strategy involved some of the time.  Think about it.  if the house have a .1 edge, then $1 of every $1,000, the house will keep.  So there is the other $999 that is out there.  What some people do not realize is that the house edge is 99%, in this example, this does not mean your chances of winning are 99%.  It does not work that way.  you have to take into consideration everyone else who is playing to make a better play strategy.  Just my opinion though.
My opinion is I think outside of the box and will not overthink to get more chances to win in gambling especially in dice, there are other games that we could master in playing like sports betting and skilled base games, we should focus on that rather.
11927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: August 07, 2016, 02:55:53 AM
One big thing you should worry when investing in casino is fake winnings. Owners of casino can just pose as players to steal investors funds. They can either make a big win (a huge chunk of a bankroll at once) or just make small fake wins each month, keeping you in profit, but less than you deserve.

Invest only in gambling sites with perfect reputation.
Problem is that the sites which are so trusted like primedice and others don't even accept investment and for the right reason, why will they allow their profits to be shared ?
I think investing in new sites is like playing with ponzi sites.

I agree that established sites like primedice don't offer investment for ordinary investors like us because they already have covered their grounds and can sustain losses from high rollers. Primedice has limit as to max amount of bet and has a number of patron gamblers that play to their sites almost daily which makes them daily profit they can take - it would not make sense for them to share to other investors what they are enjoying right now.
You actually don't need an investor if you are the owner of primedice because they have matured in the market already and they were able to protect their reputation in the industry that is why they are consistently making money from the gamblers who patronize their site.

Not completely. Stunna is a long-standing member of the bitcoin community. He/She probably invested a fair sum of their bitcoin into the site and has slowly been building it up.

You only need an investor if you don't have the bankroll.

Primedice already have a good amount of bankroll by themselves. That is why they dont need anymore. Even if they need, they will ask from private funding from some rep members. It also means that casino has been in good business and people are profiting from it. Primedice sure want to profit the most for themselves and that is why they dont ask for investment. It is the other casino that does not have a good bankroll that they need investment.
Definitely, they lose sometimes but the overall result is they are winning, you cannot beat the dice game because of the house advantage therefore they are more willing to risk more as additional pot money if necessary because they know they will also get good profit.
11928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt coins worth buying on: August 07, 2016, 02:52:54 AM
Ethereum could be a good coin to buy. You have the choice of buying the  ETH or the ETC. Both are good.

When it comes to the price, yeah ETC and ETH are the ones that is best to buy, as you can gain profit from it. But, I think it is not best to long trade because we are not assured if the glitch was completely fixed with the Hard Fork. I think DRACO or CJ is best because the developers are currently responding to those queries and they are constantly updating how the project is going. I think that is a good indication that the coin will last and is safe to Hold for a Long trade.

For the long term holding or usage, it is better to buy the ETH as it has the support from Vitalik and big community.
ethereum will be done in small time, if i were you i would buy etc instead as it is going to have a better future, besides that i think that for a really long term only bitcoin will be profitable
I don't trust anything that starts with ET(H/C), they just for short term investment, I don't bother putting a big amount for the long term as I don't see they will have a good future unlike bitcoins. Other altcoins that are new now are just waiting for a due time to pump so we should focus on the better once like lisk and waves.
11929  Other / Off-topic / Re: What % of your Assets is Bitcoin? on: August 07, 2016, 02:43:12 AM
Less than 1% of my asset is in Bitcoin. But I think it will rise to 50% in the next ten to fifteen years.

I won't be voting either - less than 1% of my funds are in BitCoin and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
That's too safe my friend, if you want to make money with bitcoin then you should increase your holdings, you must have a least 20% of your total assets for your investment, never worry about the future of your bitcoins as that is just fair with a possible good return in the future.
11930  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 07, 2016, 02:42:13 AM
Best way for sure online income is using ptc sites and revenue share for invest and gamble on casinos without riaking own money to earn a lot and then free earbed mones risk for big win.

Well, if you invest big on a ptc i think it's a good investment for long term, but it takes long time to get profit. For me, signature campaign still the best way to earn steady income.
I don't consider ptc a good idea in making money online, sure it will generate money but the time you spent will always not that worthy if you have a big demand in terms on money, sometimes we need to risk to make a steady income and that could be done through trading.
11931  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 06, 2016, 02:17:00 PM
only save you can saving to bank but not growht significant your money
but you want growth you can investment, trading bitcoin altcoin  valas forex
buy saham obligation
not only in banks you can save your money, cold bitcoin storages are unhackable too so they are pretty safe, im keeping all my bitcoins in it right now and im happy about it
That's good, we should take all the steps to protect our savings as that would be a great value in the future, always remember that bitcoin is still young and the real benefits will be felt in the future. The continuing adoption of the new users are very promising that it would lead to future success.
11932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: August 06, 2016, 02:09:40 PM
One big thing you should worry when investing in casino is fake winnings. Owners of casino can just pose as players to steal investors funds. They can either make a big win (a huge chunk of a bankroll at once) or just make small fake wins each month, keeping you in profit, but less than you deserve.

Invest only in gambling sites with perfect reputation.
Problem is that the sites which are so trusted like primedice and others don't even accept investment and for the right reason, why will they allow their profits to be shared ?
I think investing in new sites is like playing with ponzi sites.

Investing in new sites might indeed not be that wise but there's a few good ones to choose from.
It is too risky as they can easily run away when there operation will not be successful and they will take your money, online gambling does not offer the real information of the operator so it is hard to track them when they will scam the investors.
11933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: August 06, 2016, 02:03:43 PM
I think the hope to win. one who has lost everything in gambling opes to earn some money back from it, but one deos not realise that its a double edge sword, we may lose more than before and the risk involved in gambling. We should consider all possiblities and be ready for worst outcome.

When we gamble, we always hope for the best but expect for the worst. We can mitigate losses with creating many sessions. Having many sessions will cover our losses and give us more chances of hitting our target profit.
Of course, we should not be bias with our decision in gambling and we should rely base on the accurate statistics rather than on superstitious belief. Only when we are so realistic will we have a chance to win in gambling in the long run.
11934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 06, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
Although there are some who actually get rich from gambling, like lottery winners, in general I think you have a higher chance of getting broke than to get rich. So to answer the question, yes there are people who are lucky enough to get rich from gambling but that is a very very very low percentage compared to most gamblers that get broke.
Yes maybe their are some who became rich from gambling but i guess only few. its hard to earn in gambling what more to be rich. i think they were just lucky or they bet big amount and win thats why they became rich.

I am sure that people who are getting rich with gambling are the house edge only. I don't know if there is someone that is a normal player or gambler that did became rich with gambling. Maybe those people or individual that really have a very lucky win and won a big amount of pot as they are gambling. But for the house edge they are really the ones who are becoming rich with it.
Only those people with real interest on how to make money in the gambling have the chance to become rich, in one will take gambling as a form of investment which he will put up a capital or bankroll for his gambling career then he will do necessary measures to minimize his loses and to increase his winning percentage.

Treating is like a business would mean you need to track your record and do not integrate your personal expenses to your business.

I totally and 100% aggree with this. If we are serious of getting money and be rich through gambling, we should do our homework and calculations. We should treat it as a business and work.

To start off, we should have big bankroll and divide it into many sessions and then follow a system that you will not involve emotions on it.
We can find a lot of methods and techniques in the internet about how to become successful in gambling. The problem with most of the gamblers is on the implementation process as they are more easily affected with the emotion in gambling and they cannot implement the procedure effectively.
11935  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the next halving really matter that much? on: August 06, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
Every halving is matter, cause bitcoins is not endless and some day it wil become limited and very expencive currency, and also every halving is investing time Grin
You could be right if we see a big pump of the price now to see the effect of having, as of today we have not experience that yet and many investors are longing for it to happen, I just hope it will happen this year so we will have a great bonus this year end, and that would only be the time I will conclude that investing right every halving is profitable.
11936  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin halving is real? on: August 06, 2016, 01:20:01 PM
I will buy 1btc now.
Halving is true and it happening now, but if you will have profit in this halving no one knows , it depends on the value supply I'd more continue to buy bitcoin it will continue to increase.
It is not actually happening because it already happened or took place earlier this month. However, the effect has not yet been felt by the investors and we are still patiently waiting for that time to come and harvest our profit from our investment.

The halving effect could be felt 10 to 15 months after the halving. The mass adoption is an important factor.
No, it can be felt this year alone and we should think positive that it will happen, the current price surge is a good thing after the hard fall. And this is a good sign the we can achieve our speculation that after the halving the price will increase, we just need to wait for more now.
11937  Economy / Speculation / Re: PANIC BUYING !!!!!!! on: August 06, 2016, 12:33:24 PM
Now may not be a bad time to buy a bunch. Actually about 12 hours ago was the best time to buy a lot. It looks like it is recovering nicely now but there could be another drop.

Yes, its recovering quite sometime  now. Its a opportunity to buy as sooner or already started prices are slowly  on the uptrend move.

Those bitfinnex attack which affects the bitcoin price to drop is also an opportunity to buy more. Wink
Sometimes crisis help the the wise investors because they see it as a big opportunity to buy more bitcoins to increase their holdings. I also see that, although I have only a little amount of investment with bitcoins and I am willing to hold it for a long period of time as I believe it will more valuable in the future.
11938  Economy / Services / Re: Up to 0.035 BTC weekly for YOUR SIGNATURE *New rules on: August 06, 2016, 12:20:24 PM
Weird. It works absolutely fine for me.
I hope it will be fix soon and I hope the moment it will be fixed it would also give another opportunity for the new entrants to join. Some of the signature campaign that uses bot does not accept new entrants anymore and it was just recently that yobit does not allow also. Maybe people are just desperate to find another new campaign with better rates so you cannot blame them monitoring this campaign.
11939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 06, 2016, 12:14:32 PM
gambling isn't wrong but if you're addicted to it and it would ruin your life then it's wrong. remember gamble moderately
yeah, if you are starting to get addicted then just quit it until it is not too late in order to avoid losing your money, i never do too much gambling to be honest

Hmm. You don't really notice when you start to get addicted, only when it is too late. Gambling is fun because you are dreaming of getting rich. Casinos just explore this desire and make you porrer in the end. Try to limit your gambling days to a few per year.
Yeah, some people didn't notice that they are already addicted in gambling, but I am sure that some of us also actually know that they are, cause I also realize it on my own that I am already addicted in gambling, but of course I am a type of person that can handle myself or control myself so, I decided to stop immediately, so that I will not lose more money in the end.
Well, for me I was just so lucky when I was addicted with gambling in the past because I don't have much to lose that time, and I am thankful that I have learned from my mistakes and until now I am already enjoying gambling. Learning how to control your self is really the most important as it the way to discipline ourselves.
11940  Other / Off-topic / Re: What % of your Assets is Bitcoin? on: August 06, 2016, 12:10:50 PM
Right now with the lower price the value of my net worth in Bitcoin has declined quite a bit, making my current holdings look like this: 42%BTC, 58% fiat.
Wow! you have a great portfolio of bitcoins, I was really surprise that someone can trust bitcoin that much, that just show how big your trust with bitcoin. People like you is what we need in the community to last because even with the crisis we are still optimistic about the future of bitcoin.
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