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11941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: August 08, 2021, 09:39:04 AM
That is not a bad price considering it costs $75 to watch the fight in the US. With the huge purses the fighters are making the cost gets passed down to the customer but the downside to charging so much is that many people will just opt to stream the fight illegally.
With some few searches away, they'll see those streamers that are illegally doing it.

But don't support those if you're capable of purchasing to watch through PPV. You know that you're part and contributor why boxing keeps going and those PPV won't be out since there are many that still watches through it.

I'm sure that such hefty prices per view for a single match is hurting the industry more than any number of "pirates" who view the event for free. In my opinion, this is some kind of backwardness and I do not know how to explain it. A huge amount of entertainment content is now free and has smart monetization methods like advertising, selling extra stuff, etc.
When I find out about the prices for watching such a match like $ 75 (even in the rich USA), I get angry and think first of all about what they should pay me to attract and not vice versa.
11942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What does it take for a game to "hook" people on: August 08, 2021, 09:30:59 AM
I actually think that simplicity is one of the key criteria when it comes to getting people hooked.

In general, people have pretty short attention spans, and they don't really like to have to learn a game inside out before being able to play it. That's why you see stuff like video poker dying out - because that actually requires skill and people just can't be screwed to have to learn the optimal strategy.

That's why simple games like dice, even though they are quite "boring" in the graphics sense, have made it big in the crypto world.

Why do you think video poker is dying?
If you mean poker in slot machines, then it hardly ever had a large share in games in general, but now their number is increasing and it is losing its share only because of this.
If you mean online poker with real people, then despite the fact that the hype went through it has a huge constant gaming audience. The only problem I know with this kind of poker is the software that collects statistics on the players, which allows professional players to have an edge.
11943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions on: August 08, 2021, 09:19:11 AM
I still confusing why Rusia is different from other countries, why they use ROC (Rusian Olympic Committee) why not only Rusia?.

Because in Russia the state system of doping and deception of the regulatory authorities was revealed, in addition, Russia refused to admit this fact. This scandal has been going on for many years, haven't you heard about it?

I don't know if this is possible or not, but it will be very funny if the US team overtakes the Chinese team in gold medals on the last day of the Olympics  Cheesy It would be an epic result of this race. In one day, the difference decreased by 3 times and now amounts to only two medals.
I am surprised that the Germans were not able to collect the normal number of gold medals - at the last Olympiad in Rio they had 17, and now they are almost two times less. It seems that those teams that performed above average (especially Japan) did it at the expense of Germany.
China and the USA still have the opportunity to get Gold medals until the closed ceremony.

Game today:

USA; Women Basketball, boxing, volleyball
China; boxing

If I can see, Possible USA will defeat china position. hopefully, they don't add silver medals in the last minute because there are too many.

It happened after all! The USA confidently took the first place in gold medals on the last day of the Olympiad. Given the huge advantage in silver and bronze medals, this can be called total domination.

11944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions on: August 07, 2021, 10:18:54 PM
On the medal front, China still has the most gold, while the USA has a clear advantage in the total number of medals at Tokyo 2020.



I don't know if this is possible or not, but it will be very funny if the US team overtakes the Chinese team in gold medals on the last day of the Olympics  Cheesy It would be an epic result of this race. In one day, the difference decreased by 3 times and now amounts to only two medals.
I am surprised that the Germans were not able to collect the normal number of gold medals - at the last Olympiad in Rio they had 17, and now they are almost two times less. It seems that those teams that performed above average (especially Japan) did it at the expense of Germany.
11945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Man lost £20,000 in one night after becoming addicted to online gambling! on: August 07, 2021, 09:35:40 PM
To be objective, this amount is not critical for developed countries. In fact, this is income for 5-6 months (I can be wrong, but not much). Therefore, I would agree with the statement that it is just money. They can be earned again. And by the way, everyone who, for example, did not buy Bitcoin or Ethereum cheaply has potentially lost much more  Grin Cry
The annual salary will be around £ 30,000 and loosing £20,000 is a huge amount in any developed country and even if you have a good bank balance it can derail your plans. What you are saying is not even hypothetical, how can someone loose anything if they did not even invest to begin with, what kind of logic is that and no one will calculate their profit loss percentage like that  Cheesy.

Ez  Grin
For example, in the era of ICO, many participants in this forum received tens of thousands of dollars for performing simple actions or for wearing a signature. How could you lose this easy money? Sometimes it was an exit from an asset at the wrong time, sometimes on the contrary - you remained in the asset and it became very cheap. This happened to me several times, so I do not look back (take care of my psyche)  Wink but the fact remains - potentially I lost a huge amount of money.
When I wrote that message, I kept this script in my head, so maybe you did not understand me.
11946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Man lost £20,000 in one night after becoming addicted to online gambling! on: August 07, 2021, 01:27:42 PM
To be objective, this amount is not critical for developed countries. In fact, this is income for 5-6 months (I can be wrong, but not much). Therefore, I would agree with the statement that it is just money. They can be earned again. And by the way, everyone who, for example, did not buy Bitcoin or Ethereum cheaply has potentially lost much more  Grin Cry
You have the point but I'm detailing about the pointer about that "it's just money". Well, with such amount, if you're okay to lose 5-6 months of your income within a single night within a few minutes, that's still would hurt you. But you have to carry that on and just move on after wards and it's true that you can earn that again.

Once I started a business and worked quite hard (at first things were going well) but after a year of work I had to close it and I realized that I have as much as I had when I opened this business. Thus, you can say that I lost a whole year  Smiley
And this is true, in fact, such a loss is not much different from a quick loss in a casino. By the way, I can't say that I really regret it - in order to succeed, we must take risks and temporary losses are inevitable. Perhaps that player reasoned in a similar way, another thing is that a casino is not the best place to give fate a chance since having received a win in a casino, you have nothing but money, but in the case of a business, if you are lucky you get a system that will be guaranteed to bring you income for a long time.
11947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions on: August 07, 2021, 12:58:26 PM
The odds for Brazil were to generous and anybody that knows this should have staked some coins on them, I was expecting Brazil to have a price of 1.5 there about but they got priced at over 2.5 odds.
Half time scores between Brazil and Spain (1-0) and as expected Brazil are currently in the lead thanks to a goal from Cunha despite Richarlison missing a penalty earlier on, match remains evenly contested,can Brazil hold on to their lead ,let's watch and see.

After Brazil failed to realize some of the hottest moments in the second half, Spain was able to score a return goal and now you have a chance to bet with a much more generous odds than before:
3,95 - 1,80 - 3,95
There is more than 20 minutes until the end of regular time and the chance that someone will score is very high, especially considering that many goals are scored in the last minutes.

I must admit that the old football rule worked: "If you don't score, they score to you."

11948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Need beginner guide in gambling. on: August 07, 2021, 12:48:02 PM
In gambling, there is not just a risk of losing, but practically a guarantee that you will lose your money at a distance. I think this is the most important thing to understand. Knowing this fact will save a lot of time, nerves and money for any gambler who is trying to make money on gambling.

Maybe most gamblers will lose money in the long run but not everyone, otherwise, gambling is not winnable and it's opposite to my belief and to the people who are making a living in gambling. Though it's hard to prove that there are people who really makes a living in gambling, but based on what I read and see, I believe it really exist.

You read and see stories that make you believe in the possibility of winning because casinos pay to spread/make up such stories  Grin
In fact, this is a simple mathematical problem, the smaller the variance of the random variable (the higher the distance), the more guaranteed the casino will win.
In fact, you can only make money if:
1.) You have found a bug in the casino software and you know how to use it.
2.) You created this error (hacked casino software). It's illegal.
3.) You use multi-registrations and botting to receive bonuses and other promotional offers. This is also illegal.
11949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions on: August 07, 2021, 12:37:59 PM
Men's Olympic Soccer Final Odds Comparison:

Spain vs Brazil (Final)
7 Aug 2021 at 11:30 UTC


|Brazil|Draw|Spain|
BetBTC|2.54|2.87|3.29|
Betcoin.ag|2.6|2.9|3.45|
BetFury|2.55|2.8|3.35|
Bitsler|2.51|2.74|3.26|
Cloudbet|2.59|2.91|3.36|
FortuneJack|2.49|2.72|3.22|
Nitrogen|2.44|2.74|3.17|
Playbetr|2.6|2.9|3.45|
Sportsbet.io|2.56|2.86|3.25|
Stake|2.55|2.75|3.3|
Trust Dice|2.5|2.75|3.25|
Wolf.Bet|-|-|-|


5 minutes before the start of the match. I think Brazil looks like a favorite only because of the name and the fact that they are the reigning champions. In fact, the chances are most likely equal, therefore, if there is a desire, it is more profitable to bet on Spain. I will wait for the result of the first half and think about betting.

So, Brazil still came out ahead in the last minute and now the odds are as follows:
1,47 - 3,75 - 8,75
On another day, I would bet on Spain (in the end, they should definitely win one such match out of seven), but the way they play now suggests a big loss rather than a comeback  Undecided
11950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motivated by "breaking the code" on: August 07, 2021, 12:18:35 PM
I can’t understand on what basis you claim this? If someone does not give me money that I honestly won, then this is an obvious fraud and he will be forced to do it according to the law.

Look, maybe you missed something in my post, because I wasn't exactly talking about honestly won money. I was talking about the case when "it was stated in T&C that changing the bet size after receiving a "hint" wasn't allowed". So, if you changed the bet size, ignoring T&C, it would basically mean that you broke the contract, and that's why they would have all the right for not giving you the money.

Okay, I understand your point and it really should work like that if there is such a condition in ToS. But as far as I remember, there was no information about this in the ToS, that is, it was a pure algorithmic error from the manufacturers of slot machines.

How about this?

Russians Engineer a Brilliant Slot Machine Cheat---And Casinos Have No Fix

In fact, flaws in slot machines were always and often more obvious when special software was not required to identify them. I'm surprised you didn't know about this.

Actually, I had read the article, but I completely forgot about it by now. So, thanks for the link, and catch a merit from me! Wink

I'm a fan of WIRED, and reading their articles, even for the second time, is pleasure for me, but when reading again the article from your link and a related one, I remembered why could I completely forget them: the main characters in the story disgust me, and I think it's kinda defense reaction of my brain to forget them as soon as possible.

Take this part from a related article, for instance:

A Russian casino hired him to learn how to tweak machines manufactured by Novomatic, an Austrian company, so that their odds would favor the house more than usual: The machine had been programmed to pay out 90 percent of the money it took in, a figure that Alex’s client wanted him to adjust down to 50 percent.

It says a great deal about Alex and also about that Russian casino, and it's really frustrating that there are still people who don't know that cheating is bad. I mean, none of us is a saint, and when I was younger I had no clue either. But, c'mon people, grow up FFS!

But thanks for the link anyway. Smiley

No problem! Thank you too. I came across this article when I was looking for another example for you (exactly about that error in the algorithmization). I remember exactly that in the article I was looking for there were many interesting cases that could be discussed, but I cannot find it because it was something like a post in LiveJournal and now paid articles and advertising do not provide an opportunity to dig out the necessary information from the depths the Internet  Cry
11951  Local / Майнеры / Re: Условия хорошего старта в Майнинге on: August 07, 2021, 11:40:23 AM
Всем привет. Я новичок в инвестиции и всё этой суете, но хочу узнать, какие первоначальные вложения потребовалось у вас на старте?

Какой смысл смотреть в прошлое если раньше и 10к битков за пиццу можно было получить?  Cheesy
Если рассматривать вход в майнинг сейчас, то это пару миллионов рублей + помещение с адекватной розеткой.
Студенческие/школьные варианты типа купить ноут/карту и отбить ее и "получить бесплатно" всерьез не рассматриваю.
11952  Local / Майнеры / Re: Донеси на майнера в Китае on: August 07, 2021, 11:32:48 AM
Кстати, хешрейт уже пошел в альты другие? Вчера на майнингклабе читал что на Эрго в моменте прибыльность была больше чем на кефире. Будет интересно посмотреть как быстро хешрейт всяких ворон, эрго и т.д. раздует от движений на эфире (а самое главное полезно с точки зрения понимания перспектив майнинга).
Профит как правило выровняют быстро.Ворона горячее кефира.
Это  делают новички, которые в моменте хотят получить на пару десятков центов в сутки больше.
Наверно лучше майнить кефир из за его дефляционной политики я не пытаться собрать пару лишних долларов.

Мы прикинули ситуацию по монетам с кефиром
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996518.msg57637450#msg57637450
потенциальных иксов в кефире больше.

Да это понятно, у меня чисто академический интерес увидеть раздувание хешрейта щитков  Cheesy
Эфир да, фактически уже топ-1 в крипте. Если вдруг я буду заходить в крипту (этот вопрос буду рассматривать только после криптозимы) то это будет только Эфир.
11953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions on: August 07, 2021, 11:29:56 AM
Men's Olympic Soccer Final Odds Comparison:

Spain vs Brazil (Final)
7 Aug 2021 at 11:30 UTC


|Brazil|Draw|Spain|
BetBTC|2.54|2.87|3.29|
Betcoin.ag|2.6|2.9|3.45|
BetFury|2.55|2.8|3.35|
Bitsler|2.51|2.74|3.26|
Cloudbet|2.59|2.91|3.36|
FortuneJack|2.49|2.72|3.22|
Nitrogen|2.44|2.74|3.17|
Playbetr|2.6|2.9|3.45|
Sportsbet.io|2.56|2.86|3.25|
Stake|2.55|2.75|3.3|
Trust Dice|2.5|2.75|3.25|
Wolf.Bet|-|-|-|


5 minutes before the start of the match. I think Brazil looks like a favorite only because of the name and the fact that they are the reigning champions. In fact, the chances are most likely equal, therefore, if there is a desire, it is more profitable to bet on Spain. I will wait for the result of the first half and think about betting.
11954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What does it take for a game to "hook" people on: August 07, 2021, 10:02:43 AM
Daily, weekly and monthly lucky winners or the one who wagered more will receive the rewards is one of the most used strategy to promote the gambling sites in the recent times.

In general casinos doesn't need great designs and animations because casino with simple design is having the huge bankrolls so those customers are having different requirements which are trust factors, availability of games, withdrawal speed and promotional contests.

I think the statistics of these players will rather scare off most gamblers, since the amount of money that appears there is frightening for an ordinary player  Grin If such promotions work, then only for high rollers who spend a lot of money and want to receive a reasonable reward for their spending.
11955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions on: August 07, 2021, 09:57:09 AM
Oddly enough, but these are expensive sports - running requires systemic training in good conditions, and not just a street where you can run. Football is an even more expensive sport - you need a field to play, a ball, a goal, a football boots and a lot of partners ready to train regularly.

I have always considered football as one of the most affordable sports. You can use any field to play football, and only minimal modifications are required. And it is not necessary to have boots and other equipment at amateur level. When I participated in intra-university matches more than a decade ago, many of the players didn't had sports boots. And this is one of the reasons why Latin American nations are always on the top when it comes to football. On the other hand, some of the other sports, such as cricket and golf requires more expensive equipment.

Yes, football is relatively cheap (I myself played a lot in my childhood and spent practically zero money on it), but in comparison with chess it is still more expensive. You don't need a lot of space or partners for chess, and you can play chess even at night, which is quite difficult in the case of football.
11956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: August 07, 2021, 09:52:28 AM
Spence has fully recovered, that crash happen a long time ago, he is fully healthy now and he can fight toe to toe against any opponent. In fact, people believe that he is the stronger fighter here, hence making him the favorites, and that's enough confirmation that he is back as a champion.

Sure. I don’t think that incident has any consequences for Spence now. In general, athletes throughout their sports careers go through cycles of body recovery from past loads/injuries, and some kind of unplanned cycle does not have any serious significance.
Does anyone follow the odds from the bookmakers? They seem to have stopped changing in the last days.
11957  Local / Майнеры / Re: Донеси на майнера в Китае on: August 07, 2021, 09:43:00 AM
Пока не знаю стоит ли брать оборудование в Китае.
На кефире  профит снизился на 12-15 %, а с низкими комиссиями будет еще меньше.
Новички будут выходить из майнинга и будут возможности покупать небольшими партиями видеокарты с документами и гарантией.
Крупные перекупы привезут партии и снизят цены на авито и юле.

Кстати, хешрейт уже пошел в альты другие? Вчера на майнингклабе читал что на Эрго в моменте прибыльность была больше чем на кефире. Будет интересно посмотреть как быстро хешрейт всяких ворон, эрго и т.д. раздует от движений на эфире (а самое главное полезно с точки зрения понимания перспектив майнинга).
11958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Need beginner guide in gambling. on: August 07, 2021, 09:39:46 AM
You should put in mind that that's the risk of gambling. There's no assurance that you could always win and there's no specific technique or strategy to win over it. The best thing that you should do is to control and discipline yourself. Just allocate enough funds and just gamble what you could afford to lose so you wouldn't have regrets in the future.

In gambling, there is not just a risk of losing, but practically a guarantee that you will lose your money at a distance. I think this is the most important thing to understand. Knowing this fact will save a lot of time, nerves and money for any gambler who is trying to make money on gambling.
11959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 💰 Summer Tokyo 2020 💰 Discussion and bet thread 💰 Summer Game 💰 on: August 07, 2021, 09:33:23 AM
the current standing for top 3 is China-38, USA- 33 and Japan-24. it Looks like China will dominate the Olympics as the county with the most gold. if China can retain its current spot this will be China's second time to be ranked first in the Olympics.


just out of curiosity has anyone seen a sportsbook posting odds for whoever becomes the top 3 on the Tokyo Olympics?

At the moment, the gap has narrowed to 4 gold medals. In any case, I would not talk about domination - this is a small gap in quantity. In addition, the United States is confidently leading in the total number of medals. Japan has made an impressive leap forward and seems to guarantee itself the top 3.
11960  Local / Майнеры / Re: Снижение цен ГПУ on: August 07, 2021, 09:19:03 AM
Памп пока тормозит распродажу  Smiley
Выдача по запросу "майнинг ферма" на авито выдает все те же 7 500 объяв. Посмотрим как будут развиваться события в случае отката курса эфира. Хотя я так понял обнова достаточно сильно порезала доход майнеров и ростом курса это не было компенсировано?
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