I like and support this approach with mining and master node rewards.
Regardless of algo, I completely agree with this... Masternodes and staking are what attracted me here in the first place. |
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Seems like you do not understand I am this corporation. I came to share with you MY PRODUCT but I expected trust & loyalty. Code is ready since last Friday, but as I have detected cheaters on board I have decided to proceed with them first to do not let them take benefits from my work. Meanwhile, on Sat masteretarded restarted his attacks (I ignored them) and tried again on Monday. No community reaction. So I no longer cares about abusing this network and stealing rewards, go catch failling knives as much as you want.
Everyone is accountable to someone... In your case, if you're the corporation... You're being taken to task by your "board of investors" for your unprofessional manner. And, your mixed loyalties with MTR... We don't care what they're doing, we are not part of that community, we're part of THIS one! So, your lack of performance, professionalism, and behaviour have become the biggest problem here. I'd also love to see some proof of this abuse... All I've seen is baseless accusations. |
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Who cares? You're a little bitch. Stop crying like a little girl.
Please continue. Nah. Everyone already thinks you're a tool. And he had a good argument. There are some striking similarities between the original dev and yourself. Your posting style, your temper, and your not following through/ abandonment of the community. Well, except unlike the original dev, 8-bit-party hasn't actually delivered a single line of code. 8-bit, I wanted to believe in you... part of me still does. But your petty, childish bullshit just doesn't end. Even if you did decide to finish your promised work on this coin, assuming you're able; How can we trust you won't flip out over something stupid again? Six weeks ago, I pointed out to you that all of our best chances for success here involved you being professional. And you responded with a rant about everything you think has been done to you. Meanwhile you continue to play stilly little games... Look, I've worked in advanced IT engineering roles for almost 20 years, and even if you have GREAT programming skills, in the corporate IT world, you'd be fired for shit like this. That said, I'm hesitant to jump on board with MTR without some real concrete information about what is being proposed there... I like the idea of hiring a new dev, except I'm unsure at the existing price we could do that without giving him/her such a big stake, that 8-bit is actually right, we might get royally screwed by that route too. I've got servers/bandwidth, VERY strong *nix skills, and some leadership/experience to offer... But, at the end of the day, I don't code C... Never have. So, I'm all ears as to ideas people might have about how we might go about independently hiring a dev that doesn't risk putting us in the same boat we're in with 8-bit now. I can tell you all this though, if I'm going to step up and start really helping with this community (meaning MUCH more than I already have)... We are going to lay down some rules, and there will be an expectation of professionalism, something we're sorely lacking here. I really like this coin, I can see a strong possibility that this takes off again, regardless of the FUD, so I'm not selling out my position, yet. But, I'd really, really like to see the community start to really discuss our options, and start to hammer out a direction. Doesn't everyone? Right?!?! So, maybe before we cough up a bounty... Let's figure out where we want to go, and then we'll figure out how we can get there... Anything I'm missing here? Cool? Bueller? Bueller? allZuckedUp, great to hear this. Like you, I don't program C. But I do work in the games industry, developing mobile games in C# on Unity3D. I love the 8BIT brand, I think it has great potential as currency / credits for gamers. I am prepared to put some time and $ into this too, but like you, I agree we need to do this 100% professionally, and it's totally the opposite now. About the bounty, what we could do is restart the coin with a Dash fork and do a coin swap (old for new), or integrate the latest Dash functions (if we can fix the checkpoint / sync issue so it's not an issue). That way, we get all the new Dash functions like Instant transactions, masternodes, and a funding system that could be used to pay developers then. With a clean version, and everyone acting professionally and with a vision, 8BIT could start to attract developers through the blockchain funding system. Work would be agreed / voted on through the blockchain funding system by masternode owners, so if they were unprofessional, they wouldn't get paid. what you think? EDIT: info on Dash blockchain funding system: https://dashtalk.org/threads/budget-proposal-promotion-reimbursement-core-team.6006/At least on it's face, I LOVE this idea... We need to get some discussion going about specifics though... Maybe a "leadership team" on slack or something? |
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Who cares? You're a little bitch. Stop crying like a little girl.
Please continue. Nah. Everyone already thinks you're a tool. And he had a good argument. There are some striking similarities between the original dev and yourself. Your posting style, your temper, and your not following through/ abandonment of the community. Well, except unlike the original dev, 8-bit-party hasn't actually delivered a single line of code. 8-bit, I wanted to believe in you... part of me still does. But your petty, childish bullshit just doesn't end. Even if you did decide to finish your promised work on this coin, assuming you're able; How can we trust you won't flip out over something stupid again? Six weeks ago, I pointed out to you that all of our best chances for success here involved you being professional. And you responded with a rant about everything you think has been done to you. Meanwhile you continue to play stilly little games... Look, I've worked in advanced IT engineering roles for almost 20 years, and even if you have GREAT programming skills, in the corporate IT world, you'd be fired for shit like this. That said, I'm hesitant to jump on board with MTR without some real concrete information about what is being proposed there... I like the idea of hiring a new dev, except I'm unsure at the existing price we could do that without giving him/her such a big stake, that 8-bit is actually right, we might get royally screwed by that route too. I've got servers/bandwidth, VERY strong *nix skills, and some leadership/experience to offer... But, at the end of the day, I don't code C... Never have. So, I'm all ears as to ideas people might have about how we might go about independently hiring a dev that doesn't risk putting us in the same boat we're in with 8-bit now. I can tell you all this though, if I'm going to step up and start really helping with this community (meaning MUCH more than I already have)... We are going to lay down some rules, and there will be an expectation of professionalism, something we're sorely lacking here. I really like this coin, I can see a strong possibility that this takes off again, regardless of the FUD, so I'm not selling out my position, yet. But, I'd really, really like to see the community start to really discuss our options, and start to hammer out a direction. Doesn't everyone? Right?!?! So, maybe before we cough up a bounty... Let's figure out where we want to go, and then we'll figure out how we can get there... Anything I'm missing here? Cool? Bueller? Bueller? |
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 8-bit avatar for anyone who supports this coin. I totally beat you to this!! Look at my signature on the left... "find / -name base -exec chown -R us \{\} \;" Is a really UNIX/Linux'ish way of saying "All your base are belong to us!"  |
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Holy shit!
Miss a few days and the whole damn world explodes...
Can someone please catch me up?
What the hell happened, and where are we hypothetically headed?
Wow... Just wow.
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Question: What's up with the 8bit Subreddit? Admittedly, I'm a redditor, but the 8bit sub hasn't seen a post in 3 months... I'm going to start throwing some stuff on there for shits and giggles, some likes and discussion could help us. Google scrapes the shit out of reddit, so some traffic there as well will create newer and more relevant results for "8bit" or "8bitcoin"... Which again, is useful in attracting more users, and keeping them interested enough to run a wallet and grab some currency. |
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Just to make sure, along with everything else, you are going to update the code to work with the current version of secp256k1, right?
Yes ... was not a correct answer. I have considered pros & cons again. So, first of all, even Bitcoin Core is not compatibile with current secp256k1. They bundle older version. Therefore we will follow same path. So instead of porting to latest version I will simply include working version to 8bit distribution. THAT, is totally an acceptable answer! I was just thinking of it from the perspective of a new user, and "git checkout a1d5ae1" is the point where it gets to be too much for folks who have never programmed before. (I've done a bunch of devops roles for work, so, I'm pretty well versed at where even technical but non-programmer folk start to get lost.) I wrote this up for the CRAVE community a few months ago... Now, these steps work just fine for the currently released version of the 8bit wallet on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 install and a fresh crunchbang++ install as well (both 32bit and 64bit). But, if you're finishing up the update now, please look at these steps below... The shorter we can make these steps on a fresh install, the more users with things like masternoding and staking in mind we can attract, and hopefully in turn even more folks with things like games, investing, markets, and services. - mkdir <directory you want this to live in>
- cd <that directory>
- sudo apt-get install build-essential libssl-dev libdb++-dev libboost-all-dev libqrencode-dev libminiupnpc-dev
- git clone https://github.com/bitcoin/secp256k1.git
- cd secp256k1
- git checkout a1d5ae1
- ./autogen.sh
- ./configure
- make
- sudo make install
- sudo ldconfig
- cd ..
- git clone https://github.com/8bit-dev/8bit
- cd 8bit/src/
- mkdir obj/crypto
- make -f makefile.unix
That also said, if you can get ALL the "non-standard repository" stuff truly included in the source, there's no reason we can't distribute a binary, or even maybe .deb and .rpm packages. (well at least for easy distribution on the linux side of things) Think about it, as yum and apt repos are not that hard to build, certainly in my skillset anyway... And, for almost all of the linux running userbase, the cutover would be as hard as "sudo apt-get --only-upgrade install 8bitd" ...Well, the NEXT cutover anyway... Easy to run platforms result in more users... Then we can concentrate on something like, "Remember when you could mine BTC/LTC/FTC in your basement with an old machine and just hear the money rolling in?" "Well, those days can be here again!!" Welcome to 8Bit, retro in more ways than one.  |
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8-bit-party,
Just to make sure, along with everything else, you are going to update the code to work with the current version of secp256k1, right?
I certainly don't have a problem downloading additional bits of code, downgrading it on git, and compiling it myself, but that can present a challenge for folks unfamiliar with that sort of thing.
Thanks.
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Can make a video after fork. i can do windows single masternode and windows multimasternode. Need to learn more linux before making that guide.
IW
That would be fantastic. I will extend the bounty another 200 to whoever makes one for linux. I would like to start a contest. To enter, you have to submit a badass signature in this thread for all member levels. We have plenty of members here, including myself, that would love to rock an 8bit sig. I haven't decided when the contest will be up, but the community will vote on what one they like the best. The winner gets 800 8bit. (If you really did go above and beyond (look at the cryptocircuits sigs or the shadowcash sigs...they rock)). If it's just good, you get 300. Get to it! I don't know about video, as that's not really my thing, but, I can certainly come up with an easy to follow guide to compiling an 8bitd wallet and setting it up as a masternode on both debian/Ubuntu/Mint and RHEL/Fedora/CentOS branches of the Linux world. |
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<rambling rant>
edited ...Soooo, in an effort to see how far we can push this, I'm asking the 8bit community, who among you is willing to donate time/effort to rock this thing?! Are you a web developer? Gaming guy? Do you have skills or an idea that's better than all of this?? Let's hear it! What resources/skills do you have, and how much are you willing to share that skill or resource? If we can bring this together right, an empire of ridiculously valuable businesses can be built here...
</rambling rant>
Am I late to a party? I have only been mining small time hobby for about 4 months now and it took cryptsy 3 months to fix a screw up they did and finally get me my 112 8bits. wait let me back up a little. I have been a QA engineer for 20 years and some of this stuff confuses me. What is a masternode and what is staking and how are they related to solo mining and for that matter the setup for solo mining does not seem to work. Is there like a super secret stash of info somewhere? vj I don't know about anything being super secret, but here goes... How to get 8bit. - Mining: Over, done, kaput, was in a different phase of this coin's life. New coins can be created by staking.
- Staking: New coins created and distributed as an interest rate (sort of) for leaving a balance in a wallet for a certain period of time. With my staking wallet, I earn 1-3 coins/day on a balance of a few hundred 8bit. You can see it visualized HERE on a page tracking the wallet of the 8bit faucet, click the graph to have it back up in time.
- Masternodes: For running a node that works in conjunction with the rest of the network to insure anonymity, a small fee is paid. It currently requires a balance of $112 8bit to set one up, and it's going to require $1024 8bit to set one up soon. Currently you'd earn on average about 3 8bit/day per masternode if you were running one.
- Faucet: Currently there is one 8bit faucet (disclaimer: I run it.) You can get small amounts of free 8bit from http://8bit.netspecto.com
- Exchanges: You can buy them for BTC or LTC on several exchanges, bittrex and cryptsy spring to mind.
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<rambling rant> The elephant in the room needs some discussion though... So we've branded around retro gaming, hey kick ass, I grew up on NES, I love this stuff! The tech in the coin is awesome, certainly on the forefront of what's out there. But, it's the logical path with the branding that's going to drive this coin's adoption/success. Meaning, I'm all about this adventure, and of course primarily 8-bit-party's efforts have been awesome, there does seem to the the underpinnings of a great community behind this. But, the fact of the matter is playing the coin game as most other coins play it, is never going to make 8bit hit the highs it's capable of. Now other coins talk about their economy, and I've thought of or heard some absolutely great ideas... Things like ebay'ish markets for gaming gear, brick and mortar vendors (something like a www.the-1up.com would be friggin' sweeeet), getting listed with things like phone driven multiwallets (maybe https://coinomi.com/?), multipools so miners will "touch" us again (great idea 8bit-party), we should pick up a sub-reddit, 8-bit-party's fork (yay!), and yea, I saw a need for a fountain in early stages of 8bit (and as something the coding I know lent itself to), and more. Now obviously these things need to happen, and as alternative currencies go, we do need to grow an economy in as many directions with as many users as we can. And with those things we can certainly carve out our niche and see great growth and in turn profits. But, if we're really thinking BIG, it's the killer app already in our branding. Physical games that either accept 8bit as payment (think at a brick and mortar arcade/bar), as a currency for an online game (that in-game purchase stuff for android/iphone games), or even as a prize for games (think if you could "cashout" your game money from one game to buy something in another). Those sorts of ideas are 8bit's "killer app", it's that sort of adoption that would set 8bit apart, and give us the growth/adoption we all seek. My only problem is most of that isn't the sort of code I historically do, so it's safe to say without me going back to school for a few years, I'm really not going to be just dropping a game on the community. Nor do I have significant contacts with arcade owners or professional game studios to set that up solo either. But, I have almost 20 years working in advanced technologies (I'm a professional UNIX/Linux nerd), and I organize well, so I guess I'm just trying to help anywhere I can to make this take off. Soooo, in an effort to see how far we can push this, I'm asking the 8bit community, who among you is willing to donate time/effort to rock this thing?! Are you a web developer? Gaming guy? Do you have skills or an idea that's better than all of this?? Let's hear it! What resources/skills do you have, and how much are you willing to share that skill or resource? If we can bring this together right, an empire of ridiculously valuable businesses can be built here... </rambling rant> |
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Testing the 8bit faucet now with an ad in it... Sorry folks warned about this from the start though, right?
It's not too bad is it?
WHEN 8bit really takes off, I'm honestly just hoping to eventually pay for my hosting costs.
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Thanks dbt1033, it's a good idea...
That said, I THINK the wallet.dat was corrupted.
Luckily, I took a backup of it shortly after I built the wallet in the first place (I always do that, linux sysengineer by trade, I have no excuses for losing data), and threw it up on google drive. I'm reloading everything AGAIN. and we seem to be in business. At least I've started reloading without the bootstrap file, and it was able to pull from the network after doing a 8bitd importwallet <file>, after the first 5000 blocks or so, I've restarted it again with the bootstrap file, and we'll see how we do as it completes... Wish me luck.
Good luck sir! Report back to base camp with the results Masternode is back in business! thanks. |
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I have a large wallet staking at this address. http://www.8-bit.party/BALANCE-8QmMx6FQc77ygcmm7HL35xsX6Nubox4dYeI will donate 500 coins to the dev at the end of each month to use as he sees fit (he can pocket it if he wants). The first donation will occur once the coin is successfully forked. The next payout will be at the end of September (assuming the coin is forked in August). This is contingent on continued development/transparency and at some point, innovation. I encourage others in this community to try and help out in any way they can, whether that be donating to the dev, funding the faucet, creating graphics, etc. If you have a contribution you can make, send me a PM and we can discuss potential funding for the implementation of that contribution. Stay classy 8-bit community. I can match that...And im sure my friend would do the same. So that's 1500 coins a month... You guys are bigger fish than I, a few months of that and I'd be tapped... But I'll continue to put effort, resources, and code towards it. |
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Thanks dbt1033, it's a good idea...
That said, I THINK the wallet.dat was corrupted.
Luckily, I took a backup of it shortly after I built the wallet in the first place (I always do that, linux sysengineer by trade, I have no excuses for losing data), and threw it up on google drive. I'm reloading everything AGAIN. and we seem to be in business. At least I've started reloading without the bootstrap file, and it was able to pull from the network after doing a 8bitd importwallet <file>, after the first 5000 blocks or so, I've restarted it again with the bootstrap file, and we'll see how we do as it completes... Wish me luck.
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So I've got this wallet, no worries, not the faucet's wallet. And the wallet throw's a bunch of database errors and fails. a getinfo call returns this... error: {"code":-1,"message":"CDB : Error -30973, can't open database "}$ ~/bin/8bitd.sh stop
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
what(): CDB : Error -30973, can't open database I see this in the db.log... BDB2517 Database environment corrupt; the wrong log files may have been removed or incompatible database files imported from another environment
BDB0061 PANIC: BDB0087 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery
BDB3027 wallet.dat: unable to flush page: 15
BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
BDB2506 file wallet.dat has LSN 1/1407867, past end of log at 1/2567
BDB2507 Commonly caused by moving a database from one database environment
BDB2508 to another without clearing the database LSNs, or by removing all of
BDB2509 the log files from a database environment And EVERY block in the debug.log is showing up orphaned. I've tried everything I can think of, even blowing away all the files except the 8bit.conf and wallet.dat files and reloading the entire blockchain. To no avail... The blockchain will load from the bootstrap ok, and then fail to update from the network at all. I have over 200 8bit in that wallet (was a masternode until it crapped itself)... Any ideas? |
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Anyone heard anything about the issue with cryptsy? I tried to withdraw a bunch of 8bit almost 2 months ago and they never showed up on the block chain. Cryptsy has stopped responding to me.
hmmm... I was also affected by the problems at Cryptsy a few months ago, but I was able to withdraw when they put their wallet back online. I hope you didn't lose much if that's the case. |
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