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121  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin for “Fake Rich”? on: December 19, 2020, 07:44:13 AM
There is indeed some truth in this because as everyone understands (even if they deny it on the surface, but inside they know for sure that this is so) that without relying on the same "fiat money", any cryptocurrency is just useless numbers that cost less than nothing.
everyone wants wealth in fiat money - dollars, euros - from cryptocurrencies, but they do not want to use cryptocurrencies as a measure of price in itself. no one wants to go to a restaurant and pay a conditional 0.2eth for dinner - they want to go to a restaurant and pay $ 100 for dinner, but through eth conversion.
People themselves have come up with a gasket between themselves and fiat money and believe that this is the real future and independence - but they do not want to understand that such actions simply kill what the cryptocurrency really is. and at the same time, they do not forget to say and write everywhere that fiat money is evil, that banks are evil, that the state that prints money is also evil.
And it's both very funny and very sad. Tragicomedy as it is.
122  Other / Archival / Re: ... on: December 19, 2020, 07:31:46 AM
no, he can't. Because everyone uses BTC based on the fact that it costs money - the same fiat money that is accepted in the crypto community mercilessly scold and blame them for all the troubles.
Imagine that tomorrow BTC will stop being worth at least some money and will become a means of payment by itself. Will you go buy coffee or bread for 0.003 btc? You are more likely to commit suicide because  tomorrow it may cost more.
Or do you want to say that you will only be happy about it? I think you will not deceive at least yourself.
123  Economy / Economics / Re: How will financial crisis affect crypto? on: December 19, 2020, 07:27:24 AM
Bitcoin was created in the midst of the financial crisis that occurred in 2008, Satoshi Nakamoto wanted to create a different system from the Bank.
So Bitcoin will not be affected by the financial crisis, because like Gold. Bitcoin is also very good as a store of value. The most recent example is
the economic crisis that occurred this year due to the COVID-19 pandemic which has no effect on Bitcoin, even the demand for Bitcoin is increasing
and the price of Bitcoin continues to rise. So Bitcoin is indeed one solution to overcoming the economic crisis.

You lose one very important fact. In order for BTC to work as Satoshi intended, you need to pay with it in isolation from fiat currencies and without looking at its rate.
And as mentioned above, if you want to use BTC equivalent to its value in fiat currency, then in a full-scale crisis, it will be difficult for you to find a buyer for your coins because no one will have money. Or, as already mentioned above, there will be such hyperinflation that even if BTC will cost an infinite amount of fiat money, but this money will either not be able to buy anything or the goods will correspond to inflation and will have a lot of numbers on the price tag.
124  Economy / Economics / Re: Tether's market cap is huge! (usdt) on: December 19, 2020, 07:21:18 AM
This because the investors now slowly realize that instead of converting their bitcoin to fiat currency it would be better to convert it to a stable crypto like tether. Well, it actually not a bad idea because an investor may be able to save money from the fees deducted in every transaction from the third party service like banks. High fees can be deducted compare to crypto to crypto conversion. It could save a lot of money especially if an investors has a huge bitcoin holdings during the conversion process. Even myself would use the stable currency to hold funds and wait again the best time to buy bitcoin.

But then you change an apple for an apple. You change the conventionally accepted means of payment for goods and services around the world to its full counterpart, but just in a different wrapper. Tether  (or any other stablecoin) can be printed as much as you want for the needs of the market - so the more BTC costs, the more users will need Tether and the more it will be "printed"...
You understand that this totally does not make sense? You just took and changed one wrapper to another and paid  fees for it, however essence remained the same.
125  Economy / Economics / Re: biden goverment have 2 ways to go fed printing money ways on: December 19, 2020, 06:57:35 AM
Here is a paradox - the more btc will grow in price, the cheaper the dollar will become, because due to the increasing popularity, the printer will have to work more and more. This is very bad, think about it. Look at Venezuela and say: is it good for them when BTC is worth an infinite number of bolivars or not?

I get what you're saying, but it seems disingenuous to compare a hyperinflating bolivar to a slowly inflating dollar. Apples and oranges.

I'm not convinced of the dollar doomsday theories that many gold bugs and BTC bugs are so fond of. I'm quite confident that BTC is going to the moon though. I see the two as negatively correlated, but I don't think USD devaluation is necessarily a significant causal factor for Bitcoin's rise.

I just point out that no matter how much BTC costs - if it costs 22k today and you can buy almost an entire Tesla, then in a week the dollar will catch up with such ups and you will not buy a Tesla anymore.

In a week? No.

More to the point, what you're saying applies to the dollar and not to BTC. BTC's gains blow inflation out of the water by many orders of magnitude.

Use other assets as a base pair instead of USD. BTC is rising against everything. That means it's rising in value, not just in dollars.

The real value of money is not tomorrow and not in 10 years, but today. And really the real value is that you can buy today what tomorrow will cost, in terms of return profit, as much as today. And I am very unsure that if I received 21k on BTC today, then in a year these 21k will be enough for me at least for a month. That's the point.

Maybe you should hold BTC instead of selling it for cash and sitting on it? Especially if you're so concerned about hyperinflation.

But no one, including you, wants to pay with BTC and not look back at the exchange rate of fiat currencies.
Come today to any place where cryptocurrencies are accepted for payment - there will be prices in accordance with the exchange rate and not just 0.01 ETH for a cup of coffee without looking at other currencies. Is not it so? And you yourself are interested in the price of cryptocurrency in dollars and not as an equivalent of the cost of goods/services.
If BTC was not tied to the dollar, it would not cost anything and would not be needed by anyone.
126  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bank need cheap loan as low as 0% to make profit?? on: December 19, 2020, 06:54:20 AM
Exactly. The Bank cannot survive with such rates because the Bank's money is divided, in fact, into two parts.
"Credit" - those that the Bank takes for storage from people as a Deposit and charges any % on these deposits so that it is profitable for people to carry money to banks.
"Loan" - those that the Bank just gives out as a loan to people who pay the Bank % for using this money.
The Central Bank can issue loans at 0% because this is in fact a repayable debt, not a loan, and the profit will be as taxes received by the state.
Banks can't afford this luxury - at whose expense do they have to pay salaries, rent, operating expenses, etc., etc.? Just go to the Wikipedia article about banks and understand why this is happening, but of course it is much better to ask on the crypto forum how banks work.

Bank can give thousands of reasons everything is normal, that mean nothing when we can see inflation is going rampant wild, the food price alone shoot through the roof and the person who regulate the money supply?? The person who regulate the interest rate? The bank just want to point finger at everybody else but not themselves for all the money problem in the economic, this disgusting bank don’t collude a single day I don’t feel normal, it has been their profession to collude and steal, they’re no different than robber, and can you trust a robber, a blatant liars who broke the market in 2008, a colluding organisation that promise will keep inflation in check, to make this world better? And you wonder why bitcoin is needed to wake this world of this bank threat?😂

by offering btc as a panacea, you are proposing to go from shaky order to endless chaos. Is that what you want? For any cryptocurrency, there is not even an infrastructure - and there is simply no desire to use it as a means of payment. Look around, what do you see? People are obsessed with cryptocurrencies not because it is some kind of progress and the present future, but because they can become millionaires in one day, or lose everything. For all of them, and most of them, cryptocurrency is just a gray kind of casino, where you can earn good money and come out a winner.
Do you remember that the casino always wins?

Michael Saylor the Microstategy was calling bitcoin a online gambling a.k.a the casino too, but look what his narrative today? Whether bitcoin is a scam or it’s a pin to debunk a greater scams, we shall see the result very soon, I’m not calling bank is the greater scams that required some rude awakening, just a guess work.

And what is the bank's fraud? The fact that he gives you the money you need today and asks you to return a little more for it? Or is it that he offers to take your money today and give you back a little more tomorrow?
What is your complaint against banks as such? Except for the failure in 2008-the fault here, I believe, is not that in the banks as a whole, but rather in the people themselves and in the fact that we all want to somehow earn a comfortable eldery and no more.
you don't go saving every homeless person from a thunderstorm when it starts. You are sitting in your own house/apartment with a cup of tea, do you?

Well that would be very obvious, nobody like getting lock down, nobody like getting pandemics, nobody like getting their food bill skyrocketing through the roof like nothing else (over 1,000,000% inflation rate), nobody like living a life that will constantly need to compete who has faster monetary velocity, nobody like to living on the hood that hey have a heavy loan just after leaving school this monetary system rarely reward the provider aka it punish the person who contribute to the world by being selfless, this system reward the crooked financial people, many university is under funded, many professor who invent great tech are under funded all of them need to living on extreme frugal yet need to make change to this ever rotten corrupted financial system, you can have plenty to hate on this system, how am I doing fare, good but I’m not doing great as before pandemics, because I’m always compete outsmart the system, for many of the people around me they’re not so fortunate, but would you want to help them? Smiley

So you want to destroy the economy as such simply because it is built on competition and movement? And what do you suggest? Give everyone money just like that and make products, training, all communications and many other basic things free? Or what is your suggestion? All that you have described is a reason to think once again about your actions before you commit them. Yes, mistakes are often painful and you have to pay for them, but this does not mean that you need to stand for universal communism and lack of competition simply because you do not have money for education here and now or because you can not buy yourself a marbled beef because you work at McDonald's.
127  Economy / Economics / Re: Our new economic model could be defi on: December 18, 2020, 03:50:33 PM
You look too narrowly at things only within your home/neighborhood and no more.
The existence of a fully decentralized economy is physically impossible because a very large number of enterprises are connected to each other simply through a sequential production cycle. And this is not to mention the General tax base, General accounting regulations and rules, and General principles of calculation.
In your beautiful world of a decentralized economy, everyone can do whatever they want with all this, and all this will very quickly get bogged down in a wild bureaucratic avalanche of all sorts of contracts on top of contracts, conversion processes, translation of documentation from one standard to another, and so on.
The economy cannot be decentralized also because the economy is built by the state and the people in it and the economy is almost the heart of the state. Just as the heart cannot be separate from the body, so the body cannot exist without the heart (for example, a human).
I only agree with you that every state is trying to adjust the monetary system, which does not always correspond to a sound economy. Comparison of the economy with the heart of the state is possible, but what about the heart affected by the disease of alcoholism or other objective ailments, where are the criteria that allow even the patient to strive for an objective recovery? Today, the world economy is ruled by the dollar, and tomorrow it is possible the yuan, but each of them strive for sole management with benefits, primarily for themselves, ignoring other participants in the world economy. Therefore, my opinion is that the world economy should be decentralized, the contribution to it should be adequate to the investment of each state of its GDP, and the total profitability will spread in proportion to the invested funds to all participants who agreed to participate in the new economic system. The main incentive is everyone's benefit in overall development.

The most successful countries with a good level of development are either absolutely giants, like China or the United States, or the European Union, which unites dozens of countries in one economic zone.
Decentralized development is when your neighbor has a stick made of metal, and you still have a wooden one. Yes, these are different things in composition, but they are essentially common. No large-scale projects have yet appeared through the efforts of only one state, they are all created in the union and mutually beneficial support. If all this were decentralized-only on one process of exchange, conversion and bringing to a common buffer whole of money, humanity would finish its large-scale projects, because this would cause an endless and endless bureaucracy.
You are the first who saw in my project a possible decentralized clipboard from a centralized currency to a decentralized one on a national scale. I do not agree with you about the bureaucracy, it can exist only through centralized management.

Project excerpt
http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html
37. In a world where there are negative rates on deposits, there can be no successful development of the economy, so I am sure this platform will be in demand by banking businesses. The smart contract allows the owners of the ETH deposit, together with the financial sector (banks, funds, insurance companies, exchanges), to manage the entire cryptocurrency market. ETH-WORLD tokens backed by ETH this can be (a new single world currency under the code name Phoenix, which The Economist wrote about in 1988, issue 306) https://cont.ws/@infobazasm/812374 This currency cannot be controlled and to regulate it obeys only a simple economic law.

i will not agree that negative rate is negative.
A positive deposit rate encourages savings among the population, which can eventually lead to a sharp increase in inflation in the future due to the release of a large number of these most accumulated money into circulation.
A negative rate, on the other hand, encourages spending here and now or curbs inflation by not allowing it to go as fast as it could. Any spending" in the moment " stimulates the general economic background and positive development, as any accumulation stimulates the printing of money to provide the economy with a stable money supply. just the same hoarding and the desire for it is the same "fiat bubble" about which everyone says so, but not vice versa.
128  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bank need cheap loan as low as 0% to make profit?? on: December 18, 2020, 03:47:53 PM
Exactly. The Bank cannot survive with such rates because the Bank's money is divided, in fact, into two parts.
"Credit" - those that the Bank takes for storage from people as a Deposit and charges any % on these deposits so that it is profitable for people to carry money to banks.
"Loan" - those that the Bank just gives out as a loan to people who pay the Bank % for using this money.
The Central Bank can issue loans at 0% because this is in fact a repayable debt, not a loan, and the profit will be as taxes received by the state.
Banks can't afford this luxury - at whose expense do they have to pay salaries, rent, operating expenses, etc., etc.? Just go to the Wikipedia article about banks and understand why this is happening, but of course it is much better to ask on the crypto forum how banks work.

Bank can give thousands of reasons everything is normal, that mean nothing when we can see inflation is going rampant wild, the food price alone shoot through the roof and the person who regulate the money supply?? The person who regulate the interest rate? The bank just want to point finger at everybody else but not themselves for all the money problem in the economic, this disgusting bank don’t collude a single day I don’t feel normal, it has been their profession to collude and steal, they’re no different than robber, and can you trust a robber, a blatant liars who broke the market in 2008, a colluding organisation that promise will keep inflation in check, to make this world better? And you wonder why bitcoin is needed to wake this world of this bank threat?😂

by offering btc as a panacea, you are proposing to go from shaky order to endless chaos. Is that what you want? For any cryptocurrency, there is not even an infrastructure - and there is simply no desire to use it as a means of payment. Look around, what do you see? People are obsessed with cryptocurrencies not because it is some kind of progress and the present future, but because they can become millionaires in one day, or lose everything. For all of them, and most of them, cryptocurrency is just a gray kind of casino, where you can earn good money and come out a winner.
Do you remember that the casino always wins?

Michael Saylor the Microstategy was calling bitcoin a online gambling a.k.a the casino too, but look what his narrative today? Whether bitcoin is a scam or it’s a pin to debunk a greater scams, we shall see the result very soon, I’m not calling bank is the greater scams that required some rude awakening, just a guess work.

And what is the bank's fraud? The fact that he gives you the money you need today and asks you to return a little more for it? Or is it that he offers to take your money today and give you back a little more tomorrow?
What is your complaint against banks as such? Except for the failure in 2008-the fault here, I believe, is not that in the banks as a whole, but rather in the people themselves and in the fact that we all want to somehow earn a comfortable eldery and no more.
you don't go saving every homeless person from a thunderstorm when it starts. You are sitting in your own house/apartment with a cup of tea, do you?
129  Economy / Economics / Re: Consumer Inflation Still Nowhere to be Found on: December 18, 2020, 03:46:55 PM
In which case will there be more money-when 10 people save it and one spends it, or when 10 people spend it and one saves it? Any accumulation encourages the issue of new money to make up for the loss of the money supply.

Again, if the money is not entering the consumer circle it will not cause anything!
An increase in the money supply does trigger inflation, but! only if that supply is actually used.

Think of Satoshi's coins! They are still there and not influencing the price, what if he starts spending them?


Correct, and we can find many historical examples of this, during world war one all countries got out of the gold standard and were printing money in order to sustain their war effort, but back home there was almost no inflation and this was because people were saving for a rainy day, they did not spend on anything but the basics, but when the war was over and confidence come back they began to spend their money and this caused massive inflation.

The main problem is not in the inflation itself, it turns out, but in the fact that the market does not have time to create the supply for which there is demand in such situations.
And you can already come to the conclusion that you should not criticize the monetary system as such and people who are inclined to waste, even to hoarding, but simply accept the fact that the market really quite copes with self-regulation and knows how to be alive and not controlled by anyone.
and it's not the merit of some smart people that they created such a system - and the maximum understood it and try to convey to others.
130  Economy / Economics / Re: biden goverment have 2 ways to go fed printing money ways on: December 18, 2020, 03:45:29 PM
Bitcoin's gains are not limited to the dollar's devaluation. Even if we account for the BLS's number fudging regarding real inflation rates, BTC's gains eclipsed USD inflation by multiple orders of magnitude after its first bubble in 2011, let alone the last two. BTC is rising in value way faster than the dollar is declining.

Here is a paradox - the more btc will grow in price, the cheaper the dollar will become, because due to the increasing popularity, the printer will have to work more and more. This is very bad, think about it. Look at Venezuela and say: is it good for them when BTC is worth an infinite number of bolivars or not?

I get what you're saying, but it seems disingenuous to compare a hyperinflating bolivar to a slowly inflating dollar. Apples and oranges.

I'm not convinced of the dollar doomsday theories that many gold bugs and BTC bugs are so fond of. I'm quite confident that BTC is going to the moon though. I see the two as negatively correlated, but I don't think USD devaluation is necessarily a significant causal factor for Bitcoin's rise.

I just point out that no matter how much BTC costs - if it costs 22k today and you can buy almost an entire Tesla, then in a week the dollar will catch up with such ups and you will not buy a Tesla anymore.
The real value of money is not tomorrow and not in 10 years, but today. And really the real value is that you can buy today what tomorrow will cost, in terms of return profit, as much as today. And I am very unsure that if I received 21k on BTC today, then in a year these 21k will be enough for me at least for a month. That's the point.
131  Economy / Economics / Re: Banks going in stable coins news its starting now on: December 18, 2020, 03:43:22 PM
However, banks are not switching to stable coins in the understanding of the crypto community banks are simply using existing technologies to improve the quality, speed and number of transactions without the need for continuous scaling of existing services.
Banks don't "make cryptocurrency" - banks just take what works from technology. Two different things that you quite often confuse, if you look closely.

Exactly. With the emerging tech like blockchain, banks can work with it and use this public domain for their internal use. I mean the transactions that are made with the help of blockchain will help banks to increase their safety and integrity of the data/transaction. This can help them master the data embedded in their servers and also the info would be virtually indestructible. That's the advantage of blockchain for our traditional banking system.



I am not so sure, if stablecoins really have to do anything with the banking system. I mean it's more or less nothing but fiat currency only in the crypto format. They might take interest just for the above stated para and nothing more. Stable coin can not fulfil the world's need since we don't have infra to overcome worldwide transactions. (Underdeveloped to developed countries).


This is quite a controversial issue, because the same Visa or MC still remain in the first place in terms of transaction speed on the network, including between countries.
My claim is rather that the crypto community is ready to eat everything where there is the word "blockchain" and praise it saying that "so we will win". In fact, they do not notice how happy they are about the development of what they were originally against
132  Economy / Economics / Re: Banks going in stable coins news its starting now on: December 17, 2020, 02:04:46 PM
Also the banks see that USDT not so trusted*
So they like stable coins but regulated ones*

They're more secure with the regulated stable coins because they are with the government. You can't expect decentralization coming from a bank unless they launch a service that's ok with decentralization but it's like a trading desk.
Not solely as a savings option for their customers who would like to expand into cryptocurrencies with assurance of safety from a bank.

The funny thing is that the" security guarantees " from the Bank are often associated with the fact that these same guarantees are provided by the state rather than by the Bank's good will.
And here we come to a very good question, which is better: legislative security or anonymity and the ability to hide from laws and govs.
I see it so that in the future, as a result, everyone will be happy to switch to the first option because they will get tired of playing these crypto games. Yes, there will be enthusiasts who will continue to use the same BTC and others, but it seems to me that this will be the sunset of history, but not a new monetary Renaissance.
We will never know what's with the future in terms of this matter. But it's just the stable coins that would be in their hands but talking about decentralization and assets that can't be handled by them, there will be us who would be staying on it.
The guarantee from the government seems to be secure for them but this all depends to your advocacy or what you believe or what you really prefer in these digital age and momentum of cryptocurrencies.

The problem is not faith, but confidence. I can believe in anything - even in BTC, even in the Macaroni Monster. But at the same time, I am sure that if tomorrow something happens to the bank or organization where my "fiat" pension is located, then I will have somewhere to turn, because all this is insured.
with cryptocurrencies, it is very easy to deceive people because it is still a gray sector of the economy and there is no question of any reliable insurance. today, this pension crypto fund is there and everyone is happy, and tomorrow it has already disappeared without a trace, and all investments are lost in the mixer. And then what?
133  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bank need cheap loan as low as 0% to make profit?? on: December 17, 2020, 02:03:43 PM
Exactly. The Bank cannot survive with such rates because the Bank's money is divided, in fact, into two parts.
"Credit" - those that the Bank takes for storage from people as a Deposit and charges any % on these deposits so that it is profitable for people to carry money to banks.
"Loan" - those that the Bank just gives out as a loan to people who pay the Bank % for using this money.
The Central Bank can issue loans at 0% because this is in fact a repayable debt, not a loan, and the profit will be as taxes received by the state.
Banks can't afford this luxury - at whose expense do they have to pay salaries, rent, operating expenses, etc., etc.? Just go to the Wikipedia article about banks and understand why this is happening, but of course it is much better to ask on the crypto forum how banks work.

Bank can give thousands of reasons everything is normal, that mean nothing when we can see inflation is going rampant wild, the food price alone shoot through the roof and the person who regulate the money supply?? The person who regulate the interest rate? The bank just want to point finger at everybody else but not themselves for all the money problem in the economic, this disgusting bank don’t collude a single day I don’t feel normal, it has been their profession to collude and steal, they’re no different than robber, and can you trust a robber, a blatant liars who broke the market in 2008, a colluding organisation that promise will keep inflation in check, to make this world better? And you wonder why bitcoin is needed to wake this world of this bank threat?😂

by offering btc as a panacea, you are proposing to go from shaky order to endless chaos. Is that what you want? For any cryptocurrency, there is not even an infrastructure - and there is simply no desire to use it as a means of payment. Look around, what do you see? People are obsessed with cryptocurrencies not because it is some kind of progress and the present future, but because they can become millionaires in one day, or lose everything. For all of them, and most of them, cryptocurrency is just a gray kind of casino, where you can earn good money and come out a winner.
Do you remember that the casino always wins?
134  Economy / Economics / Re: Our new economic model could be defi on: December 17, 2020, 02:01:42 PM
You look too narrowly at things only within your home/neighborhood and no more.
The existence of a fully decentralized economy is physically impossible because a very large number of enterprises are connected to each other simply through a sequential production cycle. And this is not to mention the General tax base, General accounting regulations and rules, and General principles of calculation.
In your beautiful world of a decentralized economy, everyone can do whatever they want with all this, and all this will very quickly get bogged down in a wild bureaucratic avalanche of all sorts of contracts on top of contracts, conversion processes, translation of documentation from one standard to another, and so on.
The economy cannot be decentralized also because the economy is built by the state and the people in it and the economy is almost the heart of the state. Just as the heart cannot be separate from the body, so the body cannot exist without the heart (for example, a human).
I only agree with you that every state is trying to adjust the monetary system, which does not always correspond to a sound economy. Comparison of the economy with the heart of the state is possible, but what about the heart affected by the disease of alcoholism or other objective ailments, where are the criteria that allow even the patient to strive for an objective recovery? Today, the world economy is ruled by the dollar, and tomorrow it is possible the yuan, but each of them strive for sole management with benefits, primarily for themselves, ignoring other participants in the world economy. Therefore, my opinion is that the world economy should be decentralized, the contribution to it should be adequate to the investment of each state of its GDP, and the total profitability will spread in proportion to the invested funds to all participants who agreed to participate in the new economic system. The main incentive is everyone's benefit in overall development.

The most successful countries with a good level of development are either absolutely giants, like China or the United States, or the European Union, which unites dozens of countries in one economic zone.
Decentralized development is when your neighbor has a stick made of metal, and you still have a wooden one. Yes, these are different things in composition, but they are essentially common. No large-scale projects have yet appeared through the efforts of only one state, they are all created in the union and mutually beneficial support. If all this were decentralized-only on one process of exchange, conversion and bringing to a common buffer whole of money, humanity would finish its large-scale projects, because this would cause an endless and endless bureaucracy.
135  Economy / Economics / Re: Consumer Inflation Still Nowhere to be Found on: December 17, 2020, 02:00:35 PM
Most likely, this is due to the fact that even those trillions of printed money went not just under the pillow and into the pockets and went straight into circulation - the reception is very confident. Buying food, medicine, salaries, utilities, and so on.

Nope, it's not that simple and it's nearly the opposite.
If all money goes into consumption you have a  lot more demand for goods which would trigger a rise in price since there are not enough of those to counter it and from that, you have a price increase. Furthermore, not having enough money in circulation around in an economy will actually trigger deflation since there is more stuff to buy and less money for it.

Inflation is more pronounced if the growth of the money supply is accompanied by universal accumulation,

People accumulating and not spending are not triggering inflation, quite the opposite.

Those people who are not inclined to save money do not cause inflation because they do not lead to the need to increase the total money supply, which would make up for the loss of funds due to hoarding.
In which case will there be more money-when 10 people save it and one spends it, or when 10 people spend it and one saves it? Any accumulation encourages the issue of new money to make up for the loss of the money supply.
136  Economy / Economics / Re: biden goverment have 2 ways to go fed printing money ways on: December 17, 2020, 01:58:37 PM
They don't care about propping up crypto, but they do have an interest in perpetuating economic growth through inflation, which has an important (if indirect) effect.

When the Fed absorbs much of the existing supply in the corporate bond market, it has a two-pronged effect: it indefinitely bails out corporations who should otherwise be liquidated, and it removes trillions of dollars of investment asset supply from the market. The goal is to perpetuate economic growth and prevent business failures, but in effect, it creates massive excess demand (excess cash) that flows into all other markets. Stocks, real estate, gold, crypto, etc.

As long as the money printer is on, BTC is going to benefit from it.

This is growth for the sake of growth, just for the sake of more numbers on the screen. Once again, what the hell difference does it make how much BTC costs in $ if the dollar sags in its purchasing power due to inflation?

A huge difference. Bitcoin's gains are not limited to the dollar's devaluation. Even if we account for the BLS's number fudging regarding real inflation rates, BTC's gains eclipsed USD inflation by multiple orders of magnitude after its first bubble in 2011, let alone the last two. BTC is rising in value way faster than the dollar is declining.

Here is a paradox - the more btc will grow in price, the cheaper the dollar will become, because due to the increasing popularity, the printer will have to work more and more. This is very bad, think about it. Look at Venezuela and say: is it good for them when BTC is worth an infinite number of bolivars or not?
137  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bank need cheap loan as low as 0% to make profit?? on: December 12, 2020, 07:04:48 AM
Honestly your question have raised even more questions than answers, but that's a good thing. Nevertheless, if what you say is true, then this only shows how cruel banks can be. Charging people more when they can actually get a loan themselves scot-free. If ever, your country's central government should be able to intervene regarding this situation and help with these microbusinesses struggling to make ends meet during this pandemic crisis.

And what is the cruelty? This is ordinary usury, the principle of which has existed for many centuries. You take [somewhere] money and promise that you will give them a percentage.
After that, you give [someone] money and say that you are owed a certain %for it.
And then you come to your king and tell him that if he gives you money at 0%, then after a while more taxes will go to the Treasury because you will be able to distribute more money at % for the development of your business or something else.
The scheme is as old as the world and there is no cruelty here, as for me. No one owes anyone anything for free.
138  Economy / Economics / Re: Banks going in stable coins news its starting now on: December 12, 2020, 06:51:37 AM
Also the banks see that USDT not so trusted*
So they like stable coins but regulated ones*

They're more secure with the regulated stable coins because they are with the government. You can't expect decentralization coming from a bank unless they launch a service that's ok with decentralization but it's like a trading desk.
Not solely as a savings option for their customers who would like to expand into cryptocurrencies with assurance of safety from a bank.

The funny thing is that the" security guarantees " from the Bank are often associated with the fact that these same guarantees are provided by the state rather than by the Bank's good will.
And here we come to a very good question, which is better: legislative security or anonymity and the ability to hide from laws and govs.
I see it so that in the future, as a result, everyone will be happy to switch to the first option because they will get tired of playing these crypto games. Yes, there will be enthusiasts who will continue to use the same BTC and others, but it seems to me that this will be the sunset of history, but not a new monetary Renaissance.
139  Economy / Economics / Re: Sweden Explores Moving to a Digital Currency on: December 12, 2020, 06:47:37 AM
So such situations should not increase the price of "classic" cryptocurrencies in principle. After all, States do not create their own analogues of BTC or ETH, but they move from one process of money turnover to another.
When you stopped using cash because you carry a card with you everywhere , it definitely doesn't mean that you started using some completely different money, you just started using a different exchange process.
I also do not think that digital state currencies will compete with cryptocurrencies simply because there are completely different areas of application and the principle of distribution and control. A complete transfer from cash is more good than bad, if only because it is convenient. But you can’t say that digital currencies will somehow directly affect cryptocurrencies
140  Economy / Economics / Re: Consumer Inflation Still Nowhere to be Found on: December 12, 2020, 06:44:17 AM
Most likely, this is due to the fact that even those trillions of printed money went not just under the pillow and into the pockets and went straight into circulation - the reception is very confident. Buying food, medicine, salaries, utilities, and so on.
Inflation is more pronounced if the growth of the money supply is accompanied by universal accumulation, but now we see that the money received immediately goes to the market and diverges through it. Rather, we can even say that for the market of ordinary consumer goods, printing money this year worked like an adrenaline shot-it stimulated demand and at the same time did not give free rein to the wild inflation that everyone expected.
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