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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 27, 2018, 10:38:41 PM
I've been reading a lot about this project and so far everything checks out. I also went over to Allcoin and bought some SPC. A simple process overall. Jeff Garzik said in the Reddit Q and A that they hope to get on more exchanges soon but with exchanges inundated at the moment this process may take time.

As far as I can tell the launch for the first satellite is happening on February 2nd. Very interesting project.

the launch is already on feb 2nd? thats amazing.i wonder if they will wait til the other exchanges are done before they start the pr machine. tim draper did retweet a spacechain post now so its official too.

i saw qtum is on a LOT of exchanges including the two exchanges spacechain is on,and huobi, binance, coinegg, bithumb, bitfinex and so on... so probably spacechain will get on all of those qtum is on, this will be amazing. i see an easy x10 or x20, and the steady growth for the next years.
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: People paying $1200 for 1 Ethereum are crazy... You only get rich buying CHEAP on: January 27, 2018, 10:31:48 PM
well paying 1200$ for one eth is not making them stupid because ETH is the 2nd best coin out there and many crypto geeks expect value of 2000$ for eth buy the end of 2018. it is hard to predict anything but eth really has a healthy team and technology.....would say they are on the right path.

I agree with you. Eth has a great roadmap laid out and its technology is being conaidered now by legitimate companies. And you don't necessarily have to but a whole eth to invest. Any amount invested in etherium would one day be well worth it for its investors

any amount invested in eth is dead capital when you can invest in new projects that can still go x10, x20 or even x50, x100 if you are lucky. crypto is not the stock market where the biggest are the best. this is an evolving market and eth technology will be replaced some day by better technology.
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Long Term GEMS on: January 27, 2018, 05:22:03 PM
SpaceChain its the ETH of the future and it will be $15-20 next month already...
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 27, 2018, 05:14:45 PM
looks like they are working on the website right now it would be amazing if the whitepaper is up then i will know what i do this weekend!
125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 27, 2018, 02:35:57 PM
and i can guarantee you its not a scam. i am very good with spotting scams..... i mean even jeff garzik talked about it in public (there is a video), the spacechain foundation tweeted to @timdraper ... they would be exposed fast if it was a scam... and they were at his space summit too , so.. Smiley if it was a scam they would have been escorted out lol....


well, on the website they do everything to make it look like a scam

you should have seen the old website Cheesy

the new website came up really fast after people complained about the old, so probably the new one gets improved quick also.i wouldnt worry about it. they are all working on the project.

but already then and now you can click on team and read their bios. then research them. thats what i did. and it all checks out. that was my strategy with neo, tron, verge and raiblocks which i bought early when everyone said they are scam... and it was a huge success for me. i hope this is too.
126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When can I expect my coins to recover? Feeling very depressed... on: January 27, 2018, 02:28:48 PM
nobody knows. i lost about 50% of my investment around august 2017. and they are still not yet recovered. if i didnt sell them i would be lost much more. Sometime we should check our portfolio and and sell some of them in loss.

thats bad bro.. very bad.... in this time since about august 2017 i have made x50 my money......

and i not say it to brag or boast i say it so people learn. you do not get rich buying the bubble. eth is all just hot air ....do it like the early bitcoin and eth investors and buy into cheap projects where you cannot know yet if its a success.... where you cannot know yet what it will be...

if you are the tenth million person to invest in eth how do you ever expect to see a profit? all those millions of people got it cheaper than you and will cash out before you bringing the price down.....

and eth does not only have the biggest risk.. there also is no upside.... no eth wont be valued as much as apple. you can already see it in last 6 months, eth has it very hard now to grow because so many people are cashing out their eth they got for cents or maybe $10.

i make my money investing EARLY in neo, raiblocks, verge, tron...... do i suggest buying them now? well maybe neo and raiblocks.... but of course they are now quite high. still not a bad choice and better than eth for sure. but if you want same profits as i u need the really cheap projects like spacechain, metaverse, opus, oyster pearl, zoin... or something that has a real business/value as waltonchain.
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: People who hold ETH are killing crypto, Vitalik only keeps it alive out of greed on: January 27, 2018, 02:21:45 PM
nobody even defending eth anymore Huh  Roll Eyes  Cheesy
128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / POST A COIN, post its current price, predict its price in 3 months. And why? on: January 27, 2018, 02:15:19 PM
example:

coin: SpaceChain Foundation
price now: $0.40
price in 3 months: $50 (x125)
why: tim draper of spacex is in it, and a millionaire ceo who dont do it for the money, they will disrupt space industry and blockchain industry with constant worldwide media coverage

use this formula please:

coin:
price now:
price in 3 months:
why:




129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: People paying $1200 for 1 Ethereum are crazy... You only get rich buying CHEAP on: January 27, 2018, 02:08:36 PM
we only need the eth to participate in some ico and we use eth so that we can send some token in exchange. but if you want to invest in earn profit also.. but i dont think that you can earn big profit from eth.. you are right that one should get rich in investing in some cheap coins. but it depends in you plan or in your strategies. You need to research about what token or coin you can get or earn big profit and then observe what token has a good potentials to pump up.

yeah but do we even need so many ico? many of the eth icos are just useless

it can be much better if eth just disappears and new startups have to make their own blockchain and bring real innovation. eth is killing innovation and crypto as a whole.
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOS Token (IOST) Ready to boom the market on: January 27, 2018, 02:01:52 PM
i think its really good.

tho ios token is not that cheap due to ICO regulations in china they actually went the route of venture capital. so a lot of venture capital companies have big stakes in it. it started already at about $400m which is a lot.

what i like about ios token tho is the team. they are all extremely intelligent people. this should be a charm to work in that team and they should be able to build great things.

its also DAG so thats another huge plus. see what happen to raiblocks.

i definitely can suggest to buy a couple, and i do hold some too, of course.

what might get even bigger i think tho is spacechain. its got tim draper in it, and a millionaire ceo who dont do it for the money but for the good of humanity. this may actually explode in 2018 even bigger than eth in 2017.

another good tip is metaverse i think, since they have an ex-neo founder in the team and its still even cheaper than ios token .

131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 🥁🆓Will SpaceChain be the next x100? Its by Tim Draper/Jeff Garzik/ISS/SpaceX on: January 27, 2018, 01:54:55 PM
The project is really interesting. I checked the coin on CoinMarketCap and it's $0.37 with 1.000.000.000 coin supply. I'd say the price it a little high, but it didn't increase much in price. It has good chances to moon a little.

Did you even look at the post right above yours? 

1. Their website is down and has been for some time.  Cached copied of their website claim big investors but do not link to anything to substantiate it.
2. Their website has grammatical errors and poor spelling in places (cached version).
3. The last time the founder posted on Reddit was an AMA 3 months ago- since then nothing from his account or any of his teams there.
4. The cached version of their website indicates a WeChat page- but there are several and no English Versions (and translator does not do a very good job).
5. No links to GitHub anywhere.

I really like Muenzes suggestions though so maybe he can show me I am crazy.

1. the website is up at http://spacechain.com/ and has always been for me. there was a fraudulent website maybe you were on that one?

3. the last info from the spacechain founder is from just a few hours ago. he spoke at tim drapers space conference/summit. also jeff garzik spoke on it. the videos are linked here: https://twitter.com/Space__Chain

5. github i dont think it exists yet. but the spacechain spaceOS is open source i think so it will be there sooner or later... there was mentioned about 50 people have worked on it in the past months and its ready to launch the first satellite which should happen quite soon.

there is also some info on the qtum reddit about spacechain. but the best read so far is probably to check out the twitter , because there they have been posting all news so far.

the founder of spacechain is pretty young. in his 20s. but he did launch a successful educational platform in china that he got from 0 to 10 million/year in sales. and then he sold it. i dont know for how much but surely a very nice amount. he then faced the question "what to do with my life", got mentored by tim draper himself, and found his calling: helping space exploration and space travel move forward. thats why its also a nonprofit foundation just like ETH is. so i think this could become really huge. the only risk i see is jeff garzik ruins it.

Thanks Hawaii2020 - it looks like their website was down yesterday and when I pulled website uptime records it said it had been offline for awhile- glad its back up!  I am reviewing their Twitter as well- not sure how I never found it during my Google Fu session.   Any whitepaper to review?



they just put a new website up. it looks much, much better. the link to the whitepaper dont work yet tho
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 27, 2018, 01:31:39 PM
amazing, but the email in "Contact Us" section is wrong




sapace.com is for sale..


maybe it's just a mistake...

but, no whitepaper, wrong email, no other google results for "Space Chain Foundation Ltd."...

its very interesting. they have all this spaceos already developed, created these many partnerships. are investing in other space companies. yet they barely make all this info public. i think it might be because they care much more for the actual project than about collecting funds like so many other cryptos. really curious about circulating coin supply now. i think it might be even lower than we think.

and i can guarantee you its not a scam. i am very good with spotting scams..... i mean even jeff garzik talked about it in public (there is a video), the spacechain foundation tweeted to @timdraper ... they would be exposed fast if it was a scam... and they were at his space summit too , so.. Smiley if it was a scam they would have been escorted out lol....

the biggest risk i see is it not getting a lot of attention in the begin by media....... but since it got tim draper who is always on nbc, cnn, bloomberg... and since it got another team member who is often in the media.. this should not be an issue..... i hope....... Smiley

tim draper ALWAYS gets asked "whats the next big thing?" since he invested early in skype, hotmail, badu... so i can already picture him talking about spacechain.... plus as of now barely anyone knows about spacechain, so once bigger people who invest in space(billionaires even) find out about it... i can see very large amounts going into this.

the second challenge is probably finding good ways to use spaceOS and getting it used by nasa, richard branson, spacex, jeff bezos space projects... i think richard branson will start tourist flights to space this year already.. so if he uses something by spaceos that would be huge already. also its quite a novelty that suddenly everyone in the world can create apps to be used in space, like for research or just fun projects. there is still a lot to discover..
133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / People who hold ETH are killing crypto, Vitalik only keeps it alive out of greed on: January 27, 2018, 01:20:13 PM
eth is the worst coin. the market *IS* going up and down because of overpriced eth. people are selling all of their eth thats why the market is falling scamming all the new investors who are excited for crypto and stupidly buy eth....and then get dissapointed by crypto and leave. its bad for crypto...you could see this when eth got to $1400 for a short time last week, all the millions of people who got 10000s of eth for CHEAP sold them.

eth is a bubble where the late investors will only lose. yes there is some good things about eth, there is many coming updates. but thats all already in the extremely high price of over $100 billion

i got into crypto because i wanted to support YOUNG projects. i wanted to support REVOLUTIONS. i wanted to invest in projects where you are NOT SURE if they will ever succeed. like bitcoin in the early days. like eth in the early days. now? now eth is fat & lazy and will never get a x50 so why invest in there?

eth has had their chance. all they brought up was shady ICOs and make their early investors rich who got it for 15 cent or $10. buying eth now at $1100 or recently at $1400? .. i have been following eth since 6 months in this time i x50 my money thru cheap coins..... you eth investors? you not even made x2...... do you see a pattern here? eth is DONE. bring it in the backyard and shoot it. vitalik only keeps it alive because he got billions in it. they cant even show your tokens automatically in myetherwallet and there is these stupid popups all over myetherwallet, how is this joke of a product worth $100bn? any student can make a better crypto for $5k

so if you wanted huge gains you needed something as neo, waltonchain or raiblocks. thats what made people rich now. and in the future what will make people rich is the coins that are cheap now like maybe metaverse, probably spacechain, ios token and so on...

thats also the only way that crypto will not die. keep bringing up NEW innovations not BUY THE BUBBLE
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can ETH make everyone poor? ETH price at $300 again soon? ETH bubble popping? on: January 27, 2018, 01:07:30 PM
I do not understand why you are so disappointed in Etherеum. Even now, when the whole market is in a big fall, the Etherеum cost has not fallen for a very long time. Then fell, but not much. Now Vitalik makes all sorts of improvements. I think it will lead to good growth. I think your conclusions are hasty. This is one of the best coins actually.

its the worst coin. you have a good thinking there, but the market *IS* falling because of overpriced eth. people are selling all of their eth thats why the market is falling scamming all the new investors who buy eth..its bad for crypto...you could see this when eth got to $1400 for a short time last week, all the people who got 10000s of eth for CHEAP sold them. its a bubble where the late investors will only lose. yes there is some good things about eth, there is many coming updates. but thats all already in the high price. i got into crypto because i wanted to support YOUNG projects. i wanted to support REVOLUTIONS. i wanted to invest in projects where you are NOT SURE if they will ever succeed. like bitcoin in the early days. like eth in the early days. now? now eth is fat & lazy and will never get a x50 so why invest in there? eth has had their chance. all they brought up was shady ICOs and make their early investors rich who got it for 15 cent or $10. buying eth now at $1100 or recently at $1400? .. i have been following eth since 6 months in this time i x50 my money thru cheap coins..... you eth investors? you not even made x2...... do you see a pattern here? eth is DONE. bring it in the backyard and shoot it. vitalik only keeps it alive because he got billions in it.

so if you wanted huge gains you needed something as neo, waltonchain or raiblocks. maybe even verge, tron and so on (tho verge and tron are probably not good for long term, but people who got them CHEAP got rich in last months). thats what made people rich now. and in the future what will make people rich is the coins that are cheap now like maybe metaverse, probably spacechain and so on...

thats also the only way that crypto will not die. keep bringing up NEW innovations not BUY THE BUBBLE
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: SYSCOIN most undervalued coin out of the top 50? on: January 27, 2018, 01:00:25 PM
it was a good coin maybe but mcaffee pumped it a few days ago so now its overpriced.

the stuff you mention sounds boring. its all not true values. any coin can do this really.

the team seems to be nothing special. maybe they are hardworking. hopefully they are.

but something as raiblocks is much more exciting. so is waltonchain as waltonchain got TRUE values.
they are not just hype.

the even better investment is something that is still cheap. thats where i make all my x20 profits.

like spacechain is still cheap but got the best team in crypto right now this will be x100 in february.

metaverse is still pretty low but could be really huge....

i am not hating on syscoin in particular but i think many of the bigger coins are just way
overhyped for what they really are.
136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Did I diversify too much? on: January 27, 2018, 02:04:28 AM
this is one of the worst portfolios i have ever seen

why are you in crypto? to lose your money in a crash? you have nothing that can go x50.

i actually make x50 on some of the coins you are holding but i already sell them.

if you want something with potential buy metaverse, spacechain, iostoken, tnt, titanium blockchain, zoin (privacy) .....

those are coins that can go x50 or more...... and those coins will not lose much if there is a crash like the big ones....

you buy really stupid.... you only can lose with your portfolio.... unless you think crypto market can print unlimited money with tether... but even then... you do realize millions of people bought your coins for much cheaper? they have thousands, ten thousands.. and they will all sell before you... and then there is nothing left for you to make earnings
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 27, 2018, 01:31:08 AM
How do I purchase the coin? If I had a Chinese/south Korean girlfriend then maybe she could translate the words for me. What exchanges are these coins available on?

if you look on coinmarketcap at spacechain, you can click on markets to see the exchanges. i am not from asia but i was able to sign up just fine.they are in english too.

they also have some other interesting coins.

here is also a small post on the vision of spacechain by its founder, and a little background on him. seems like a honest, hardworking and nice guy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Qtum/comments/6zdvyg/hey_i_am_founder_of_spacechain/

The project has attracted top experts in space and blockchain technology from the US, Europe and China and a large group of young people who aspire to make a difference in the world. It will further promote the application of cutting-edge space and blockchain technologies and explore the development of blockchain technology on the Moon, the Mars and in deep space. Also, the project will serve Space and STEAM education, wildlife protection, high-risk asteroid monitoring and other public welfare undertakings for making collective efforts to achieve sustainable development of human society and civilization and exploring infinite possibilities of outer space in the future.

he also mentions some partnerships already, with big companies, so i think this can be really big.
138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 27, 2018, 01:05:43 AM
Again, these scammers are Chinese!!On fire to burn them for cheating.Look at this crooked site ,even without the usual protection.There are no direct links to link people who are there recorded.I think with such people in the crew they do not need to sell tokens or something cares about the price of their tokens.This is clearly complete nonsense.

its a little funny you would think tim draper needs to scam people.... he gifted the world free phone calling, free videochat and free email.... and other things... maybe one day there will be free space travel, free communication thru satellites...

I finally invested a little into Spacechain. But i don't know if they are going to be successful or not. I think that the marketing team is not very good at selling this project. I am waiting for the launch of a satellite.

yeah nobody can know.... i hope they can be very successful...  at least this isnt like ETH where all future potential is already in the price.

i think the marketing has not started yet... we will have to see.

139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 🥁🆓Will SpaceChain be the next x100? Its by Tim Draper/Jeff Garzik/ISS/SpaceX on: January 26, 2018, 10:52:01 PM
The project is really interesting. I checked the coin on CoinMarketCap and it's $0.37 with 1.000.000.000 coin supply. I'd say the price it a little high, but it didn't increase much in price. It has good chances to moon a little.

Did you even look at the post right above yours? 

1. Their website is down and has been for some time.  Cached copied of their website claim big investors but do not link to anything to substantiate it.
2. Their website has grammatical errors and poor spelling in places (cached version).
3. The last time the founder posted on Reddit was an AMA 3 months ago- since then nothing from his account or any of his teams there.
4. The cached version of their website indicates a WeChat page- but there are several and no English Versions (and translator does not do a very good job).
5. No links to GitHub anywhere.

I really like Muenzes suggestions though so maybe he can show me I am crazy.

1. the website is up at http://spacechain.com/ and has always been for me. there was a fraudulent website maybe you were on that one?

3. the last info from the spacechain founder is from just a few hours ago. he spoke at tim drapers space conference/summit. also jeff garzik spoke on it. the videos are linked here: https://twitter.com/Space__Chain

5. github i dont think it exists yet. but the spacechain spaceOS is open source i think so it will be there sooner or later... there was mentioned about 50 people have worked on it in the past months and its ready to launch the first satellite which should happen quite soon.

there is also some info on the qtum reddit about spacechain. but the best read so far is probably to check out the twitter , because there they have been posting all news so far.

the founder of spacechain is pretty young. in his 20s. but he did launch a successful educational platform in china that he got from 0 to 10 million/year in sales. and then he sold it. i dont know for how much but surely a very nice amount. he then faced the question "what to do with my life", got mentored by tim draper himself, and found his calling: helping space exploration and space travel move forward. thats why its also a nonprofit foundation just like ETH is. so i think this could become really huge. the only risk i see is jeff garzik ruins it.
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 26, 2018, 10:45:22 PM
biggest risk i see is jeff garzik himself. tho he did work on bitcoin core with satoshi nakamoto. tim draper gets mentioned a lot and also mentioned spacechain at his summit in the opening speech. but there is no video of that i think.

in any case, tim draper has invested in 213 startups so far. only 3 of them are space related. one was spacex... a giant success. another i dont know which it is. and the third is spacechain Smiley
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