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121  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. on: December 10, 2014, 01:30:51 AM
Can you not begin by being honest ? Death treats dont make your miners in iceland disappear

rofl
122  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. on: December 10, 2014, 01:30:32 AM
That's a shocker. I never thought it's possible to destroy a business by harassing its owner.

His mining rigs are very sensitive to emotions
123  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Buying bitcoin for MoneyPak Vanilla and NetSpend at 15% over bitstamp. on: December 04, 2014, 02:34:42 AM
Vanila and greendot in stock

GDMP x 100 x 2
GDMP x 120

Vanilla x $130
Vanilla x $150
124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2014, 02:02:30 AM
so. hard. to. not. troll. you.

Why do you take others beliefs so personally man. Chill, live and let live.


125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2014, 11:40:45 AM

more drivelling nonsense


You completely ignored the fact that there are a lot of different platforms out there to trade any instrument you can imagine on. The only reason to adopt OKcoin is because they want to trade bitcoin somehow.
126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2014, 04:27:18 AM
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3bn hedge funds decide to borrow software from some random btc site to trade other stuff? makes sense, because multi billion dollar hedge funds couldn't possibly buy their own servers or write their own software without involving a third party if it had  nothing to do with bitcoin.
...

100% with you bro.  Because software produced by any Bitcoin-related company will always be utter shit.
What self-respecting company would even touch such garbage if they weren't planning to do something really ghetto, like trade Bitcoin?


They just wouldn't, they could produce anything they needed inhouse or buy it elsewhere. There are dozens of better, more established and reliable companies if they're looking for trading software. Okcoin has nothing going for it that they couldn't buy elsewhere from a better supplier, or produce inhouse. The only thing they have going for them is their access to bitcoin liquidity.

option 1) buy proprietary, relatively new and relatively untested trading software that no one except a few thousand bitcoin fanatics have ever used off some bitcoin exchange with a plan to use it to trade other assets.
option 2) buy reliable, well tested, proven software off one of the thousands of companies who produce platforms for trading other assets and supply it to banks, hedgefunds and other financial institutions already.

It's pretty fucking obvious to everyone, including you and stolfi which is more likely, however it doesn't fit in with your constant FUD, manipulation of facts and blatant lies to admit that a hedgefund might be trading bitcoin.

It'd be a better angle for you to take that the hedgefund is probably going to short bitcoin and manipulate the market all the way to zero than it would be to claim they're just borrowing their software to trade another asset, because that is frankly stupid
127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2014, 02:55:29 AM
There was talk about OKCoin taking on some major hedge fund trades -- supposedly something like $3 billion. However, it turned out that, although they were using OKCoin's platform, they weren't looking to trade in Bitcoins.

Yeah, JorgeStolfi has confirmed this several times.

Not quite... I just pointed out that the fatal sentence could also be interpreted as "the fund will use our software and/or servers", rather than "the fund will trade bitcoin at our exchange".  

However, since there was no further confirmation of the "will trade bitcoin" interpretation, and the price collapsed right away, I think that the alternative interpretation is now quite likely.

Not very scientific of you stolfi. Unless you have actual evidence to suggest that this 3bn hedge fund is not going to use bitcoin on OKCOIN then well done on becoming an out and out FUD'er.


3bn hedge funds decide to borrow software from some random btc site to trade other stuff? makes sense, because multi billion dollar hedge funds couldn't possibly buy their own servers or write their own software without involving a third party if it had  nothing to do with bitcoin.

jorgestolfi is one of the stupider trolls in here, but he genuinely believes he's smarter than everyone else, he's staked his reputation and ego on bitcoin being a failure, so now he's desperate for it to fail rather than end up looking the fool.

I worked with high frequency trading firms, who were in the same sort of valuation league as the afore mentioned hedge fund, these are companies that will spend $2000 on their lunch order and hire the best network and programmer guys in the world on salaries of hundreds of thousands of dollars *per month* in order to gain just a millisecond or two advantage on the market, to think they'd just co opt third party software or even borrow a server is absolutely stupid.

The only possible explanation for a hedge fund trading on a bitcoin exchange is that they have something they want, and cannot simply buy for themselves, and the only thing okcoin possibly has that they do not have or cannot buy is access to bitcoin market info, or the liquidity they need to play.

It's not neccessarily a good thing like some of the more myopic believers in here think, they could just plan to HFT the market and suck every penny out of everyone until btc is worthless, if they can. hedgefunds, HFT firms and the like do not *need* the market to increase in value to turn a profit, so the fact a hedgefund is involved doesn't neccessarily mean the price has to spike, as professor stolfi seems convinced should have happened if it were true.
128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 28, 2014, 05:31:35 AM

Oh, OK. Please ignore the post and put all your bitcoins in a blockchain.info wallet, with their default security.

You should smoke while filling your gas tank, because Chernobyl was much worse than any gasoline fire.

lol you're so stupid
129  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: November 27, 2014, 11:46:10 AM
"Maybe the largest unknown store of physical gold in the world is the Vatican Gold. For nearly two thousand years the church has been hoarding gold gained from wars and conquests in the name of God. Throughout the ages people have been shoveling vast amounts of gold into the collection trays every Sunday. The Vatican gold hoard is a closely guarded secret but I believe that it may be the largest collection in history if you take into account all the gold used in the artwork, crosses, trinkets, coins and cups owned by the church. The Vatican is all about privacy, secrecy and power and I guarantee you they know the true value of gold."

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/181.cfm

Didn't Italy have money problems? Wink

The Pontifical Swiss Guard is in between the Vatican gold and the Italians.



Wow ..... impressive Wink

I don't think they will last a full minute.

Despite their silly uniforms, they'd wipe the floor with the Italian army, who happen to be a lazy bunch, utterly useless for the most part.
130  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling CPanel license for lifetime. Dedicated server development license. on: November 25, 2014, 09:27:22 AM
how much?
131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2014, 05:12:19 AM
Exactly. Buffett doesn't need to worry about the new technologies because he's mature and mature-means-old-and-old-means-dead.

Buffet is also full of shit and is a large manipulator player in the commodities market whilst claiming he never gets involved in commodities.

132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2014, 04:29:03 AM
I know the people who run a site in Australia where people buy bitcoins for cash deposit, they pay out hourly.

To anyone believing no one is buying

https://blockchain.info/tx/c24588e78dd72969baa7164e9a4ea40f0662498657fc90e2c4512260bfbad7b6

Thats 265 btc transacted in one hour through one site in one country.

I think it's largely darknet purchases, Australians love them some darkwebs, since their street prices for drugs are 2-3x what the rest of the world pays.
133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2014, 01:47:00 AM
The bear trolling is fair enough to be honest. Gox was a fuck up, China was almost a pump and dump, middle-men and miners are dumping constantly maintaining a vicious, self-perpetuating cycle of bearishness in the market.

However bitcoin will recover from all this. It will just take it's own sweet time.

Personally, I believe in it long term as a world changing technology.

Patience people.

spooderman you are in the UK right?
134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2014, 01:10:45 AM
goddamnit why is it so hard to swap from btc - visa??? you'd think it was easy i just need a prepaid visa yet it's fuckin impossible to find anyone trustworthy.

what happened to all the old btc - vcc places?
135  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: need $500 neteller, have btc on: October 31, 2014, 01:03:14 AM
Sorry but since no reply I need to cancel the offer made via PM.
Cheers.
C.


Sorry, when you said CET I thought you meant central US time, if we can do it today i'd still be up for it. can you SMS me i'll send you my number via PM
136  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: need $500 neteller, have btc on: October 30, 2014, 01:30:30 PM
I still need neteller for btc. happy to sell at bitstamp rate for neteller.

must have trust, prior trades, or someshit to prove you're not a scammer.
137  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: need $500 neteller, have btc on: October 29, 2014, 02:05:11 PM
Pmd

tried to add you on skype no response....get back to me
138  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: need $500 neteller, have btc on: October 29, 2014, 10:17:33 AM
Which price you buying PM me.

I dunno, make me an offer, i'll see who makes the best offer
139  Economy / Currency exchange / need $500 neteller, have btc on: October 29, 2014, 09:35:03 AM
Trusted/longstanding members only.
140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: October 28, 2014, 04:52:35 AM

ChooChooo alll aboard!
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