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121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you still gamble? on: August 12, 2024, 06:43:16 PM
The motive of this thread is for us to discuss what will be you stands if online casinos charges you fees on each game you play on them, same way excahges charges you on each trading position you open, and why should excahges charges fees and casinos not charging such fees, First of all the First objective of every business is to generate revenues, so at first I wasn't curious about this, but recently I began to wonder why the difference between excahges and casinos when both have similar features which are licensing and KYC.
If exchanges take trading fee's their call it value added taxes which some part get remitted to the government.
But online cryptocurrency casino's act in the same vain because both trading and Gambling are the same it all aim at either profits or lose, but while gambling plartforms let go of the fees, exchange charges us on each regardless wether we make profits or lose in the trading position.

One is just an exchange of crypto for entertainment while the other is the exchange of crypto with other cryptos. KYC and AML are probably much more scrutinized on actual exchanges because that is usually a  requirement, also a requirement by many casinos but some are probably more lenient on what exact KYC and AML policies are.
122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Consequences of greed on: August 11, 2024, 06:28:28 PM
Something happened earlier yesterday in my area and I would like to share it here so we can discuss about it to see if something similar to this has happened to anyone here.
Earlier yesterday a dude won 15 million naira on sport bet from a betting shop closer to my area.
How it happened was that the dudes friend gave him a betting code on sport games and the potential winning amount is 15 million naira and the dude played it according without removing or adding any other games.
But what surprised me was that the guy that predicted the game would have played the game exactly how he predicted it but he added some more games and he lost his while his friend won his own (to increase the potential winning amount).
What I want to say is that it's greed that made the predictor of the game to lose his chance of winning 15 million naira instead of winning along side his friend. So have you given anyone a booking code and he won then you lose?

Its such a crappy feeling the what ifs of gambling. What if I would have placed that bet and won 15 million? I can't believe I didn't place that bet & this other guy I showed how to place won the bet! They are probably thinking to themselves, why couldn't it have been me? Sucks to be in that situation. Hopefully their luck will make a turn for the better!
123  Other / Off-topic / Re: Risk or regret? (2) on: August 11, 2024, 06:10:36 PM
Considering risk and regret, which do you think will be the most painful for a gambler?

- the pain from taking a risk that they take on a bet and they lose, or the pain from regret of not taking a bet that ends up as the winning option, a life-changing amount?

Hmmm, personally I think its the regret from not taking a bet. At least from a bet that you lose you have a chance to come back from that and you learn a lesson perhaps. But when you could have made a bet that you didn't and see how you would have got if you did place that bet is pure regret. It brings taking action into perspective but also makes you more detail oriented and decisive in the future.
124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soldiers using gambling to cope with stress. on: August 11, 2024, 06:05:10 PM
Stress has been a reality for soldiers for millennia. Historically, they have turned to short remedies. King Richard Richard's ban on gambling aimed more toward keeping troops engaged than it did toward money. Today, its cellphones rather than dice. The problem is the possible consequences, not only in terms of leisure from stress. Why worry if performance is unaffected by gambling? Maybe worse than fighting itself since addiction + high-stress means terrible decisions.

And then there is the ethics. Businesses aiming at vulnerable soldiers using patriotism? That is simply exploitation,. Predatorial, employing technology to profitably control emotions.

This is about realizing the whole situation, not only about outlawing gambling. Policies that guard troops without compromising their liberties are much needed. Its about balance, folks.

Well in itself, things are very Important to see from the fucking good point of view , if that's how you say, you have to maintain a Balance , but personally I am a person who will always say, some entertainment doesn't hurt, however When we are seeing that things are in a war or something, it is Obvious that there will be no Danger of them Becoming addicted , because their Mind is Something that plays very much against them, the fear , the routine , well , what a Person can go Through when they are in the army , if you have Weapons and waiting to Attack or what to do or how to defend Yourself, I think that games of chance are an outlet sometimes Necessary.

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Well, it could be the very means of distraction that leads them to their peril! What if they were so immersed in the game and so addicted that they blocked out all other outside noise and were just completely sucked in - maybe with the new apple goggles or something-  Unrelated...probably the US has bought each ukrainian soldier at least two of those plus another 150k of gear per soldier. Some stupid figure like that sounds accurate. Now i'm actually curious what US aide to Ukraine would amount to per soldier & then at the citizen level.
125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's there a possibility of working in a physical casino and not gamble on: August 11, 2024, 06:01:45 PM
I was discussing with my friend that works in a physical casino yesterday evening. He lamented that his work environment has exposed him to gambling excessively that he hardly saves enough, if at all at the end of the month although he sees good funds from the tips he receives regularly from his clients that clinches wins. He also receives a manageable salary at month-end, but almost everything goes back into gambling.

He stressed that working in a casino exposes you to irresistible desires to gamble and you can do little about it.

I told him that it's possible to save part of the money and gamble with the rest and this was my strategy.
I asked him not to gamble until it's 6pm in the evening and by then he should divide his daily tips into five places, then go straight to a money collection point tho deposit 4/5 of the funds, then come back to gamble with the rest, he agreed to try it out from today and I'm yet to hear of his success as at now. We also agreed that he'll open a fixed deposit account where his salary goes in and remain untouched until every 6 months as his main savings since his tips are enough for his daily expenses

This got me thinking and I decided to share it here, is it not possible to work in a casino and not gamble?
Are there other behavioral patterns that could be employed to reduce gambling excessively while working in a casino?
Let me have your thoughts on this.

The only way that I can see someone working at a casino and not gambling at least ONCE they would have to be one of three things. Either deaf blind or mute! That would surely keep them from or at least make it very difficult, or if they had some sort of special needs employed by the casino maybe I am wrong but I would assume they would be less inclined to gamble maybe not, is not uncommon in some states to have special needs employed on simple jobs etc.
126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What if Gamblers had to go to Gambling school to learn? on: August 11, 2024, 05:59:05 PM
What if there was a legit gambling school that teach responsible gambling for maximum benefit in nearly every country that have gambling citizens, will it help to make gambling a profitable career or investment for potential new and old time gamblers?

Also, will the study or reading of books on gambling theories and strategies help to brush up one's understanding of how games are won, more than videos and podcasts would?

Hmmmm yes that would be interesting wouldnt it! A school for gambling, we would just hope that it isn't run by the government or else they will teach them all how to only make the house win hahahah in all seriousness that would really be interesting, a school that taught you all the tricks like how to count cards, how to bluff, how to increase your odds of winning! Very interesting idea.
127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 3000 letters sent to US senators to help approve strategic bitcoin reserve on: August 10, 2024, 09:46:05 PM
Amidst bitcoiners interest on the section 5 of the strategic bitcoin reserve bill ( The bitcoin purchase program of 1,000,000 btc) many had to send out letters to their local senators. A few days ago, about 2200 letters was sent and today nearly 3000 letters have been sent. I don't know if this will be of any effect, but I think that the recipients would feel they're been spammed.

Reading through this reddit post, I could say that not everybody would be able to draft out an appealing letter. When I went through the site where those letters are being submitted, I also noticed that a premade letter is on the site, as a template. But, people may send similar letters and senators will be receiving same type.

However, the community needs this in the sense that US buying bitcoin as a hedge against monetary instability can lead to more countries having bitcoin reserve to strengthen the financial condition of their nation.

I had to go through the strategic bitcoin reserve bill by Ms Lummis and noticed that nothing is decentralized about the concept. The secretary of treasury has more authority over all the private keys locations.

And from the look of things they'll be a collaboration with the secretary of defense and secretary of homeland security to help secure the physical locations where the cold storage equipment would be kept. Although in a way meddling with the funds would be punishable by law.

If it's passed, we'll watch how they'll be able to hold those btc for 20 years without amending the law.

Those who wish to participant in this scheme here is the site https://satoshiaction.quorum.us/campaign/strategicreserve/



It would honestly be really cool if all countries bought a strategic reserve of Bitcoin. I don’t feel like this is a new concept at all I feel like a lot of countries have already been holding and using crypto for several years now
128  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Crypto Tax-Free Countries in 2024 on: August 10, 2024, 09:41:40 PM
https://mudrex.com/learn/crypto-tax-free-countries-in-2024/
"How to Choose the Right Country for You?
Factors to consider include the legal requirements of the geographical jurisdiction and financial implications, lifestyle preferences, and personal or business needs. Each country offers a unique blend of advantages that cater to different priorities.

Conclusion
This guide emphasizes the strategic importance of selecting the right crypto tax-free country in 2024. By offering a comprehensive overview of the top destinations, the aim is to equip investors with the knowledge needed to optimize their crypto investments in tax-friendly environments."


Good info! Still feel like Cayman Islands is perceived to be one of the best places to live to not have to pay any crypto gains taxes. It surely would be a dream come true to have these taxes lifted but I live in the US.
129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Film industry attack on cryptocurrency on: August 10, 2024, 07:58:11 PM
I have seen this happening in at least three recent movies where main characters are refusing payment in crypto and additionally calling it scam/bullshit.
In one of the movies (can't remember the title) "hackers" told they don't want any crypto bullshit scam, they want payment in gold (LOL).

Below is an example from The Instigators (2024) I have watched yesterday (movie sucked):

Example:
https://i.postimg.cc/J7Yh08vF/1-m.jpg

I think this was just more playing off of the fact that crypto has been seen as synonymous with scams and a their with a very risky job as is would rather have physical gold. It definitely makes their job a lot harder tho payment in Bitcoin should have been fine lmao
130  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin getting in bed with Trump = BAD for Bitcoin on: August 10, 2024, 07:38:49 PM

Trump, in short, will go down in history as the worst president in US history.

Aren't you going too far with your hate towards him? Are you trying to tell us that Trump is worse than the president who lied about Iraq threatening the US with nuclear weapons and sacrificed lives of US soldiers to get cheap oil? Or maybe he's worse than the president who sent US forces to Vietnam? He must also be worse than the guy who took US off the gold standard.
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he will be remembered as a convicted criminal who betrayed his country and was extremely nasty to women...

Of course... he's more nasty than the president who inserted a cigar into his secretary's vagina and ejaculated on her dress...
You Sir seem to have a very short memory, or maybe it's the fault of poor education or young age.

I think its probably both Cool Coinz hahahah.

Anyhow Legitium is the standard run of the mill liberalist who hates Trump with a fire that burns brighter than the sun! I find it hysterical he would point out everything negative about Trump and completely ignore the incompetency of the Biden Administration in these last 4 years. Trump will go down as one of the bravest, strongest, and tough as nails President the US has seen. A real patriot. But how would you know Legiteum? With your head shoved that far up your rear end you're a real Donky freak m8! Good luck with all that.  
131  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: To the people who only see the downsides of HODLing Bitcoin on: August 10, 2024, 07:16:28 PM
We only need ordinary people like you and me to start using Bitcoin in any way each person would like.

Bitcoin is a movement that attracts "The Cabal" to where the people are. Currently, we now have Black Rock and the largest asset managers having investments in Bitcoin, and Trump and other politicians talking seriously about Bitcoin. Ten years ago suggesting that that would happen would be laughable.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Its definitely something for the history books, but to witness it first hand is very exciting. A lot of folks have mixed feelings about all of this, I think its great. Bitcoin is clearly heading in the right direction and anyone who says otherwise is missing the train. Bitcoin is incredibly famous and famous attracts famous for sure. Something that is unstoppable and can have no real interference is like having a superpower. Bitcoin is powerful!
132  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Common misconceptions about Bitcoin. on: August 09, 2024, 10:58:51 PM
>>They are so many misconceptions about Bitcoin, if I should start mentioning I could end up being bored while typing. The list goes on and on.
I had an argument with a friend just yesterday, who seemingly believes that Bitcoin is being controlled by a single entity and Bitcoin is not secure.
He said a lot to back his claims which although I can't remember his pin points though.
I knew once that he doesn't really know much about Bitcoin so I decided to back out of the argument.
Misconceptions like this are merely caused by lack of education (Bitcoin related) and sometimes education in general.
There even might be people in this forum who have similar misconceptions, the question is how do we tackle this misconceptions?


It’s so true there are so many misconceptions , most are held from word of mouth he said she said and aren’t based on anything but fluff. Those folks don’t do their own research or know the first thing about Bitcoin they just hate it the same way folks hate Donald Trump
133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Selling Bitcoin vs. Selling Gold on: August 09, 2024, 09:58:22 PM
Buying gold is very  easy. But the problem is when it comes to selling. The process of selling gold appears to be much more complicated.
You have to find a buyer...then you have to find a buyer that will give you a good price for it. Good luck with that.

Then you have to deal with the logistics of physically delivering the gold to the buyer, how to receive payment, etc.

You and the buyer have to meet to make the exchange, which can present security issues.
But if the buyer isn't near you then you have to deliver the gold by mail or shipping service.
But does the buyer pay you first? Or do you send the gold to the buyer first? The risk of getting scammed is very high for both buyer and seller.

The risk for the buyer is how does he know he is getting real gold and not fake or diluted gold?

In the US the fastest and simplest method of selling gold is to go into your local pawn shop but who will give you less than half of what its worth and you end up losing a lot of money.

By comparison, bitcoin is extremely quick and easy to sell with a few keyboard clicks on your computer or phone app.


Depends on what kind of gold product you have, is it a rare coin? Or just a chain that goes for melt value? Or is it a very intricately made wedding band? Usually depending on the item and the buyer they will always try to get melt value unless it’s something truly special and carries a premium. Bitcoin on the other hand is instantaneous!
134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't Be scared Use this Dip as an opportunity to HODL more. on: August 09, 2024, 09:55:13 PM
Many persons here never believed that bitcoin would ever go back to $50k however to everyone's suprise it didn't turn out that way (like $52k damn Roll Eyes) everyone seemed to have been thinking bitcoin was already past the $60k mark unfortunately it hasn't I was able  to confirm this from a couple of users including  The Sceptical Chymist (lol) Cheesy
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Well jeez, how long have you been watching the bitcoin market?  I never thought BTC would ever hit $1k, $10k, or even $50k in my lifetime, but that was way back when I was green and didn't realize how strong its user base was

For persons who trade many would check out on charts and be of the opinion that the market is dipping to likely mitigate some fair value gaps and Order blocks left behind from the most recent bull runs.
For alot of persons, including those who are new to bitcoin, panicking is inevitable and if you really want to HODL I think it won't be necessary.  Don't let FOMO put you in a position to panick and sell off your coins instead take this dip as an opportunity to HODL more coins by buying from scared HODLERS (be a smart trader lol I mean be a SMART HODLER Grin Grin) .
 I Suggest you sit back and watch the dip fade off.


DON'T FORGET TO KEEP YOUR KEYS SAFE   Cheesy Cheesy

We’re already back up to 60k ! Still a nice little discount if you can stack more chips but if you’re paying attention none of the big financial firms have sold any of their holdings which is indeed very telling about how they currently feel about BTC even though major price fluctuations
135  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Trump is Bluffing or Deceiving the Bitcoin Community? on: August 09, 2024, 09:52:20 PM
The upcoming US election has been the greatest thriller movie for me as I have followed it since this year. The chance of Trump becoming the next President is very high after Biden drops out of the race. Meanwhile, the Bitcoin community has extended its support to Trump and invited him to the Bitcoin conference in 2024. He had assured the community at his speech that he would and I quote below

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Yesterday in an interview he gave a new statement which I am quoting below.

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"Who knows? Maybe we'll pay off our 35 trillion dollars, hand them a little crypto check, right?" Trump suggested to Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo in an interview. "We'll hand them a little bitcoin and wipe out our $35 trillion."

Source


What do you think is he bluffing with the statement above or is he deceiving the community to gain vote and become the next President of the US?



I think he is definitely being strategic with his new stance on Bitcoin and that perhaps it’s a political strategy but when Trump makes claims and I mean big league claims he usually follows through with them.
136  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trump to enter the crypto business on: August 09, 2024, 09:50:47 PM
Trump Jr. has announced that his family will be entering the cryptocurrency business:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/donald-trump-jr-launching-crypto-platform-take-on-banks

Although the details are still sketchy (which is how they do everything), it's clear that Trump is making a big push into crypto personally.

I have sometimes been called "alarmist" in these forums because I have made predictions about what Trump would do if he wins the presidency. I predicted that Trump would introduce a competitor of Bitcoin, and then use his control of the US government to prop up his platform and pass laws to denigrate existing crypto platforms like Bitcoin.

Well, it looks like my first prediction is about to come true.

Trump already has built-in excuses to come after Bitcoin: he promises to criminalize abortion in the USA, which will require the largest police state created in the USA since the Prohibition in the 1920s (which is how the FBI was invented, for instance). Since Bitcoin and other cryptos can be used to pay for illegal abortions, it will make sense that Americans should be forced to use his "trusted" platform instead of "untrusted" ones like Bitcoin. (And if that excuse doesn't work, they could think of a dozen more).

I would like people to think about what a Trump presidency would mean to Bitcoin and crypto generally.

Trump, a convicted criminal and somebody who has been found guilty of running multiple scams all of his life, will have his own business that competes with Bitcoin and/or the crypto industry, and he will have the full power of the US government to give his own company unfair advantages over competitors. And Trump has demonstrated, over and over again, that he will absolutely use the US presidency to enrich himself at he expense of the American people.

Do you want to compete directly against the President if the United States and his political party with your business? Then by all means vote for Trump.


This is all just noise. Trump is trying to make some crypto plays something that no other president has done. News flash his businesses have lost money since he entered politics. He will try to form a company and profit from it like any businessman would. If you want to talk about a POS we can discuss Biden who has been laundering money for years and years and years though his handshake hush hush deals with China and Ukraine. Trump will at least do it in a legitimate way. I’m so sick of people bashing Trump, if you’re not voting for Trump in this election you’re not an American you’re probably foreign or have no clue wtf is actually going on here.
137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be played without greedy for the success on: August 04, 2024, 10:10:20 PM
The greedy was the biggest problem faced by the many of the gamblers,the reason for this was due to their continuous loss in the gambling game.If the gambler had face the loss,he should find the reason for the loss.If they find the mistake in the previous game,it will help the gamblers to make money in the upcoming game.If the gamblers had achieved their desired target,he should end up the game for that day and withdraw the funds.Because we never know when the game will get reversed to the losing.Many gamblers will continue to the next game after the targeted money was achieved in the betting.

Because after they achieved the target money,the gamblers get the over confidence towards their play.But they should remember they are playing with the algorithm based website.So anything occur in a short period and may leads to the loss of the entire money in the game wallet.So if you had better game on a particular day,you should end up with the withdrawal of that money before your mind would make you start the next game.Share your thoughts based on your experience in the gambling game with greediness.


Keeping greed at bay is so important and so is knowing when to call it quits! It’s something that I think is a skill to be learned. I feel that more experienced gamblers have a better gauge of this skill.
138  Other / Off-topic / Re: The real winning of gambling is withdrawals on: August 04, 2024, 10:08:32 PM
Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

If only we can turn our heads from greed and get what we already got and don’t let it slip. There is a saying that one bird in hand is better than two in the bush. This is something I think every body has a hard time juggling.
139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: $10,000,000 : Strategy or Trap, what do you decide? on: August 04, 2024, 10:07:10 PM
The use of additional technology is being very questionable today in many types of online PvP games, even in chess accounts are banned for this use of support technologies, poker is not exempt from this, in fact we have had interesting topics on this board like this:

Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling???
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449669.0

But only recently the "excessive" use of such technological tools reached the most important live poker event, in fact it was questioned that he cheated or violated the rules of the tournament, which is very specific that does not allow the use of technological support of any kind while playing a hand of poker.

It was $10,000,000 dollars, so the money at stake was important, the truth of the matter is that the use of these tools was questioned.

Some reference items to place them in the context of what is considered the most important event in the world of betting, and specifically in the world of poker
Event #81: $10,000 MAIN EVENT No-Limit Hold'em World Championship

Jonathan Tamayo wins $10M WSOP after controversial pocket queens decision
https://nypost.com/2024/07/18/sports/jonathan-tamayo-wins-wsop-after-controversial-pocket-queens-decision/


Daniel Negreanu

https://x.com/pokerorg/status/1814691779599388983/photo/1


Please keep your comments on the discussion topic, thanks.

Anything that can help you in a real match or give you an advantage should obviously be banned as it is not something that should ever happen and really is like a form of cheating .These are some big players and lots on the line there is some skill and strategy involved it’s not all chance!
140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tension that comes on the last game/s. on: August 04, 2024, 10:04:39 PM
I shared my thoughts on this thread yesterday. And I said I have another bet is on, and I will also share it if I won the bet. Though there was a cashout of 29k on the ticket yesterday but I didn't cash it out, and I was tempted to cashout the game.
Gamble is really fun when you win no matter whether you are gambling for fun or not. There is this kind of tension that always comes when the last game is on and they are not playing according to how you predicted them. Share your thoughts.
Just want to say lucky me.


Wow congrats those are some big numbers, for many this is life changing money. I hope that you use it well & continue to make good bets and prosper m8. Maybe some of your luck rubs off on the rest of us!
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