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121  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin is an Agent on: June 29, 2015, 07:19:57 AM
Absolutely NO. I voted for it  Cool
122  Economy / Gambling / Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ? on: June 29, 2015, 06:48:03 AM
Firstly, roulette is about luck and there is a house edge to make sure the house will win more likely than to lose. The more you play, the larger the effect of house edge will be.
Secondly, even if there is a winning method, you should use it on dice sites which have lower house edge.

So, there is any wining method for dice Huh I have no idea about dice game actually. I've played several times Roulette, Blackjack, Poker & Slots in the non btc gambling sites.
123  Economy / Gambling / Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ? on: June 29, 2015, 06:05:09 AM
The Labouchere/Cancellation method is a good alternative to Martingale that is more resistant to long losing streaks.  Instead of incrementing by double the last bet, it just adds one betting unit until you win and then it subtracts one betting unit if you win until you finally win the original bet.  It's sort of like going up and down a ladder.

So, if all you were trying to do is win "1" unit and started betting 1 here's an example of that:

1 - W
1 - W
1 - L
2 - L
3 - L
3 - W
2 - L
3 - W
2 - W
1 - W

End of sequence.  In this you can see the +1 progression on Losses and -1 digression on Wins.  At the end of this example sequence the bettor would be up 3 units.

Usually, there is a more complicated sequence of bets such 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1.  The sequence doesn't finish until each starting bet is finally won.



wow good idea. now I'm going to try this method ......
124  Economy / Speculation / Re: If Greece leaves Euro - effect on BTC? on: June 28, 2015, 08:41:04 AM
no, if Greece leaves Euro then there is no effect on BTC ......... but .......
if Greece adopts BTC then the price of BTC will rise ......
125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Good time to buy? on: June 28, 2015, 08:31:03 AM
Is it a good time to buy now?

Or would it be better to wait until it goes under $300?

Will it go under $300?  Huh
YES! It's a very good time to buy now bitcoins. After 2017 the price of bitcoin has never comes under $300 again.
126  Economy / Economics / Re: Which country looses the most when Bitcoin becomes the Currency of Planet Earth on: June 28, 2015, 08:23:30 AM
Russia  Grin
127  Economy / Economics / The Greek Dilemma: Hyper Inflation, Austerity, or Bitcoin? on: June 28, 2015, 08:08:13 AM
The never ending tragedy known as the Eurozone is flirting with disaster and the unknown consequences of what would happen if Greece is ejected by brute force or leaves by sheer will from the EU. Interestingly enough, the first Bitcoin ATM has arrived in Athens just in time.

4 options

The clear lesson being learned is the recipe of political and social integration before economic integration makes a terrible meal.  A lot of noise and overcomplicated explanations have been put forth as to what will happen.

In reality, there are four options left as to how this can play out:

  1.  Greece gives in;
  2.  Greece digs in and demands more concessions, the EU listens and agrees;
  3.  Greece defaults, which may lead to the EU pulling the plug on commercial banks in Greece and massive bank restrictions which would probably result in capital controls to stop bank runs in Greece and a total collapse in the monetary base;
  4.  As a result of this, Greece begins printing its own currency in order to ease the massive blow of default which will be extremely painful at first and could lead to hyperinflation.

Bailout proposal

The latest news from Athens is that Prime Minister Alex Tsipiras has announced a referendum to be held on July 5 to accept the bailout proposal  given by Greece’s foreign creditors.

This directly contradicts the weekend deadline that is needed to make a viable deal happen and is just more of the same from Greece to buy extra time. Expect fireworks this weekend.

Below is a key timeline of events for Greece over the next month:



Option 1) Give In

As the chart above shows, Greece needs to make a EUR1.6 billion debt repayment to the IMF. Creditors have offered to release EUR15.5 billion of funding, EUR1.8 billion would be available immediately conditional on Greece carrying out more reforms.

To receive this money, the EU is asking Greece to take on more cost cutting and austerity measures, which include the following:

    more cuts to pension payments and wages (particularly in the government sector);
    get rid of a special benefit paid to low income pensioners (a big sticking point);
    The IMF wants deeper spending cuts accompanied with higher tax payments;
    As well as a wider Value Added Tax (VAT) base to include medicines, electricity bills, hotels and restaurants.

Meanwhile, Athens wants a concrete commitment to debt relief, which creditors are not offering.

This is a hard pill for Greece to swallow, as Tsipiras ran on a platform of avoiding more cuts and higher taxes at all costs. Accepting this proposal will leave Greece a zombie country not able to control its own economic and financial destiny. However, in reality, it gave this up when it joined a flawed Monetary Union.

Option 2) Dig In

Greece could refuse to accept the terms being offered and ask for a different set of reforms that are less stringent and don’t choke off the entire populace.

Alternatively, they can flat out refuse to accept a deal and hope the EU caves in since it certainly fears the implications of a Greek default i.e. contagion. According to many pundits, a Greek default will be “contained.”

The Guardian has reported that “eurozone finance ministers and Greece’s creditors are to draw up plans for emergency measures to ring-fence the country’s financial system unless the Greek prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, accepts the creditors’ terms for a five-month extension of Athens’s bailout on Saturday.”

Imagining a Greek exit (Grexit) can be contained is a pipedream. This is not about Greece at all but about the other countries that will follow suit if Greece leaves (Spain, Italy, & Portugal). Not too far in the future (September) is an upcoming Spanish election, in which the far left party, Podemos, has a commanding lead.

Spain has suffered a similar fate to Greece since entering the EU and is still in the midst of a deep recession. It would be highly likely that other countries would follow suit so this could play into Greece’s hand in negotiations.

Option 3) Default

In anticipation of the real possibility of default, people have been rushing to withdraw money from Greek Banks.

As the chart below shows, this has been going on for quite a while and not due to the most recent events in Greece. Deposits have fallen to their lowest level in 11 years, dropping by 3.7 billion pounds to 135.7 billion pounds, according to data from the European Central Bank.



Default will have its obvious implications: a complete collapse in economic output, a run on banks, Greek commercial banks being weened from the EU, capital controls being placed on Greece’s citizens as the banks have to deal with implications of default, unemployment rising even higher (see chart below), and complete social chaos.

Inflation will rise dramatically and could potentially spiral into hyperinflation as Greek Central Bank will need to begin printing its own currency, since it will have to drop the Euro.



Note: Those figures imply 1.4 million unemployed (according to official records) out of a population of ~10 million. Unemployment Levels are at their highest levels since 2006, and will increase exponentially in a default.

Greece may choose to swallow this bitter pill as Iceland did, which led to a lot of short term pain, followed by eventual growth and a return to some kind of economic normalcy.

Meanwhile, a run on the banks is already being reported. According to a CNBC article written by Holly Ellyatt and Everett Rosenfeld:

    “Hours after the call for a referendum, reports about long lines for cash machines started appearing on social media.”

First Bitcoin ATM in Athens

It will be interesting to see the numbers around of how many Greeks are using the first bitcoin ATM to launch in Athens this past week.

While using bitcoin as a national currency may be a bad idea for Greece, using bitcoin as an alternative to the Euro and the Dollar in fears of a default, might be something some Greeks decide is a reasonable strategy as they panic to access their money and try and decipher what exactly capital controls might mean.



The world will find out soon enough what unfolds. What might not be clear, despite the result, is the aftermath of the decision and its impact on the entire global macro economy. Interesting days ahead.

Original Source : http://cointelegraph.com/news/114683/the-greek-dilemma-hyper-inflation-austerity-or-bitcoin
128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ..Who owns this wallet?? on: June 28, 2015, 07:53:48 AM
I guess it's a cloud mining company ....... Grin
129  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 2x BTC/DASH/DOGE in 48h on: June 28, 2015, 07:48:14 AM
it seems to me 100% PONZI SCHEME  Tongue Be aware  Cry
130  Economy / Gambling / Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ? on: June 27, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
after reading all replies in this discussion , now, I realized that there is actually no wining trick for roulette. Thanks to all  Grin Cheesy Smiley
131  Economy / Economics / Re: if buying 100 BTC doesn't get the price to go up then what will on: June 27, 2015, 10:32:07 AM
probably you need to buy at least 4000 BTC for impacting on btc price  Huh

you would impact it only for one day, then the dumping will kill you, you need a constant influx of new money to rise the market price, not a single little pump

also a surging of the price in one sit only, will just lead to a brutal dump, for the weak hands

some bots in mtgox manipulated the price in 2013. I am amazing .... how much bitcoins they had used to manipulate the market ?

some times they use a strategy which involve fake walls, to rise the price, whitout actually selling/buying anything

for example top seller is selling at 250 and top buyer is buying at 240, the top seller and top buyers are bot, the top seller rise his sell to 260, then the top buyers rise it to 250 and so on...

but, what about trading fees ? buying & selling repeatedly will cost nothing ? I think they only paid the fees to manipulate the market ?

trading fee are negligable, they are around 0.25% and with big volume like 5k btc per movements, they fall around 0.1%, so they lose 5 btc, which may look a tons of money for us, but not for someone that has 5k btc...

thank you for your valuable information Grin
132  Economy / Gambling / [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ? on: June 27, 2015, 08:36:53 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
133  Economy / Economics / Re: if buying 100 BTC doesn't get the price to go up then what will on: June 27, 2015, 08:17:08 AM
probably you need to buy at least 4000 BTC for impacting on btc price  Huh

you would impact it only for one day, then the dumping will kill you, you need a constant influx of new money to rise the market price, not a single little pump

also a surging of the price in one sit only, will just lead to a brutal dump, for the weak hands

some bots in mtgox manipulated the price in 2013. I am amazing .... how much bitcoins they had used to manipulate the market ?

some times they use a strategy which involve fake walls, to rise the price, whitout actually selling/buying anything

for example top seller is selling at 250 and top buyer is buying at 240, the top seller and top buyers are bot, the top seller rise his sell to 260, then the top buyers rise it to 250 and so on...

but, what about trading fees ? buying & selling repeatedly will cost nothing ? I think they only paid the fees to manipulate the market ?
134  Economy / Economics / Re: if buying 100 BTC doesn't get the price to go up then what will on: June 27, 2015, 07:33:37 AM
probably you need to buy at least 4000 BTC for impacting on btc price  Huh

you would impact it only for one day, then the dumping will kill you, you need a constant influx of new money to rise the market price, not a single little pump

also a surging of the price in one sit only, will just lead to a brutal dump, for the weak hands

some bots in mtgox manipulated the price in 2013. I am amazing .... how much bitcoins they had used to manipulate the market ?
135  Economy / Economics / Re: if buying 100 BTC doesn't get the price to go up then what will on: June 27, 2015, 07:13:48 AM
probably you need to buy at least 4000 BTC for impacting on btc price  Huh
136  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin will collapse in price. on: June 27, 2015, 07:04:51 AM
I don't agree with you. Bitcoin has more potentiality ! And it'll never collapse in price  Undecided
137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updating graph of fees for unconfirmed transactions on: June 27, 2015, 06:35:26 AM
just awesome ...... continue it  Smiley
138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Climb to $400 once Ethereum is released (August) on: June 26, 2015, 07:16:26 AM
maybe not ... Cry ..... but, we hope ....... Grin
139  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is there any genuine cloud mining company on: June 26, 2015, 07:06:24 AM
what's about eobot ?
140  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is there any genuine cloud mining company on: June 26, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
try cex.io ...... I know it's the only genuine cloud mining company ...... others all are basically ponzi schemes  Huh
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