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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 07, 2018, 06:53:03 AM
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122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 07, 2018, 06:32:32 AM
The current distribution methods, as already argued, do not lead to a significant further distribution and certainly not to a desirable circulation.

I am curious how many months it will take this time for management to come to this conclusion.
But I bet there will be another wrong decision afterwards.

Many technically interesting projects were ruined because the laws of marketing were not observed.

And here the daily assessment of the project according to chart technical aspects:
"Byteball Bytes price equal to 44.947 USD at 2018-11-07, but your current investment may be devalued in the future."

No ray of hope in the short term either:
"Historical index for the Byteball Bytes price prediction: D"

https://walletinvestor.com/forecast/byteball-bytes-prediction
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 06, 2018, 04:26:30 PM

However, for now the fastest way to bring users/investors on is appeal to the main group that have any interest in CC at all. This is 99% speculators and sadly you must appeal to their greed. This is not a place for just idealists right now - in the long term yes.


I've quoted this line of yours in black because that's a sad, cynical, but alas tragically true reality check. While some of us dream of the possibilities of a wonderful world, Sturgeon's law reminds us that "ninety percent of everything is crap" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law) - and this unfortunatelly is true also for our beloved crypto community.
In the light of this, you are right on the fact that to ensure the success of a coin one may have to take advantage also of all available "dirty tricks". That's called Realpolitik, my fellow Byteballers. As for which "dirty tricks" exactly should be thought and adopted so as to widely spread adoption also to the 90% of crap people which are living in the crypto space and on earth in general, the discussion is open.
Since I no longer believe in the success of bite ball anyway, I can only agree.  Grin

To be better than the competition you should do it just like the competition.
Sounds logical or not?
Cool
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 06, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
The creation of use case is the only and most meaningful thing that pushes up the value of this project sustainably and not only the price.

Hundreds of other projects vie for speculators. But almost none of them can really be used.

What we finally need is a paradigm shift in the thinking of the developers.

The orientation towards the fiat-focused regulated markets (Amazon) is much too exhausting.
With unregulated markets, on the other hand, there is still a lot of room for improvement. Furthermore, this would have a social benefit.

125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 06, 2018, 10:19:29 AM
Twitter (retweetet):
"So far my Smart Voucher gave me 40% ROI, yes you read that right: 40%. Also want to make money by introducing people to the easiest to use crypto platform in existence? Read this article to find out how. ..."

That's what bite ball fanboys want: "to make money". - Of course $, €, ... Roll Eyes

It only increases speculation, but not use and certainly not adoption.

And where do the sold bites finally accumulate?
Rewards in bytes for spread the word and help for real world adoption, perfect stimulation! or not?
People works better with rewards, that's a nature law.
Without use case there is no "real world adoption".
Result: The bites are turned into Fiat and the project is forgotten.

126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 06, 2018, 08:56:55 AM
"All You Need to Know About Decentralized Cryptocurrency Exchange Bisq.Network"
https://btcmanager.com/decentralized-cryptocurrency-exchange-bisq-network/

A "BISQ" integrated into the wallet with bite ball as base currency would be a unique selling point compared to all other projects. One that finally also has a real benefit.

Another group of developers should be working on the programming of a marketplace in parallel.
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 06, 2018, 07:07:00 AM
All these objections lead to nothing. 
The needs of users are obviously still being ignored.
The bite ball dictator prefers to surround himself with submissive courtiers who talk after his mouth.

Fantasy must enter this project again. A roadmap in which the required points would be considered would not only increase the price of the currency but also its value.

At this point, everyone's just disillusioned.

"Byteball Bytes price equal to 45.458 USD at 2018-11-06, but your current investment may be devalued in the future."
https://walletinvestor.com/forecast/byteball-bytes-prediction
128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 05, 2018, 02:47:19 PM
Twitter (retweetet):
"So far my Smart Voucher gave me 40% ROI, yes you read that right: 40%. Also want to make money by introducing people to the easiest to use crypto platform in existence? Read this article to find out how. ..."

That's what bite ball fanboys want: "to make money". - Of course $, €, ... Roll Eyes

It only increases speculation, but not use and certainly not adoption.

And where do the sold bites finally accumulate?
129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 05, 2018, 12:43:59 PM
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What small amounts and what "lot of people" are you talking about? http://transition.byteball.org

I say that the distribution should have been reduced to small amounts, not that it was small amounts.

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Byteball has around 1000 active users daily and you think that it should distribute the rest of 22% with this same shitty method that has got it to 1000 active users? Where are all those 70 000 Bitcoin addresses (not users) who should be using Byteball at the moment?

They gone, because Tony removed airdrop to balls holders before the network got use cases to support needs of all these holders. They gone, because Tony removed the only reason of hold.
I have been waiting for more than a year to sell my products for bites/blackbites. But there is still no marketplace for it, and such a marketplace is probably not yet in sight.
I strongly doubt that this is the direction in which they are thinking at all.
Yeah airdrop to OB merchants and users with balls or even black balls integration would be sweet. Purse integration would be nice as well.

Or a completely own market place, integrated as a function in the wallet which starts the browser.

The witnesses would be ideal for this (as long as they are not limited in number, routed through TOR and randomly connected to the net).

The "cashback" action for merchants could be ingeniously integrated. Customers get a discount, traders get more attraction, and since they get the discount refunded through distribution, they don't suffer any loss, which means that more traders become aware of this project.

More traders = more products = more customers = even more traders = even more customers ...

If then there would be the possibility to exchange Fiat directly into bites/blackbites (of course also integrated into the wallet) all other projects would be quickly outflanked.

For the development of the past mischief with which people like me got annoyed, there would still have been time.
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 05, 2018, 11:52:32 AM
Twitter:
"(Japanese post) Byteball news in #Japanese for our growing community in #Japan "

Nothing's growing at all.
If something were to grow there, the price would also rise. But it can't, because the currency have no value.
131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 05, 2018, 11:34:05 AM
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What small amounts and what "lot of people" are you talking about? http://transition.byteball.org

I say that the distribution should have been reduced to small amounts, not that it was small amounts.

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Byteball has around 1000 active users daily and you think that it should distribute the rest of 22% with this same shitty method that has got it to 1000 active users? Where are all those 70 000 Bitcoin addresses (not users) who should be using Byteball at the moment?

They gone, because Tony removed airdrop to balls holders before the network got use cases to support needs of all these holders. They gone, because Tony removed the only reason of hold.
I have been waiting for more than a year to sell my products for bites/blackbites. But there is still no marketplace for it, and such a marketplace is probably not yet in sight.
I strongly doubt that this is the direction in which they are thinking at all.
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 05, 2018, 10:14:23 AM
Sectarians tend to go around the world with activated perception filters.
They see and hear only what they want.

One of them asks what a better distribution could look like, but the answer is a few posts above... and in many contributions of the past.
Arrogance and ignorance.

As a reminder:
"Adoption can only be achieved by a product that can also be used.
The first step would have been to ensure the usability of the product.


In the consequence then a meaningful distribution, which orients itself exactly at this use. Distribution therefore only to those who take part in economic processes, purchase and sale of goods and services against bites. Of course in a market segment which was created for Cryptos: the unregulated market."
133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 05, 2018, 09:29:45 AM
Whales are completely useless for the development of a currency. They have the opposite effect.

The distribution was and is a disaster.
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 05, 2018, 08:26:37 AM
Adoption can only be achieved by a product that can also be used.
The first step would have been to ensure the usability of the product.

In the consequence then a meaningful distribution, which orients itself exactly at this use. Distribution therefore only to those who take part in economic processes, purchase and sale of goods and services against bites. Of course in a market segment which was created for Cryptos: the unregulated market.

The current distribution does not distribute anything. The receivers of the free Bites exchange these with next opportunity again in Fiat (or forget/loose them).
Who will be the buyer of these bites, with continuously falling prices of course? Exactly! The hardcore sectarians. There everything accumulates... until they also lose faith.

"Byteball Bytes price equal to 45.582 USD at 2018-11-05, but your current investment may be devalued in the future. "
https://walletinvestor.com/forecast/byteball-bytes-prediction
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 04, 2018, 12:17:50 PM
You are right in many points, but he depends on the tone.
You say we are not enough objectively and you use words like "The bite ball regime", why?
Because here you can't get any further with friendliness.
The demands, which I repeat from the view of a manufacturer and trader here in every second posting are now more than a year old and are arrogantly ignored. That means you don't even get an answer to your objections, not even by email.
Now I am, considering the unnecessary omissions, just angry.

Since I am probably the only trader here with corresponding needs, I feel like a caller in the desert. The other critics rather complain about points that don't affect me and my colleagues so much.
136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 04, 2018, 10:03:49 AM

Ask your neighborhood why they are not interested in Cryptos and analyze the reactions.

You should also remember to ask your neighbothood what they think about crypto once the financial market will have crashed worse than 2008 - as it surely will, and they will have lost their beloved FIAT money. I see many people now saying Byteball (as all of crypto) have no real world use. That's quite true... for now. But don't forget why Bitcoin was allegedly created in the first place: to create a form of money which would not disappear by magic as FIAT money DID disappear and in big quantities in 2008.
We're now just setting the foundations for the future. And compared to other coins Byteball's tech is outstanding in this process.
Who exactly is the bite balls target group?
Mine, i.e. the producer and trader at least not. As a result, not the consumers either.

My customers pay with Bitcoin. The customers of others especially with Monero. The latter in particular is becoming increasingly important. Monero has the highest turnover on BISQ.

When Fiat crashes also the regulated markets crash.
The already exponentially growing unregulated market will then gain enormous popularity and correspondingly the currencies that dominate this market, mainly because there is an infrastructure for it.

So who should be interested in bite ball?


We will see. No real predictions can be made for the day FIAT will crash. We'll then enter a stage of extreme chaos and therefore total unpredictibility. It's reasonable to think that the easiest to use coins will at that point eventually get sudden adoption by those unable to deal with more complicate coins and thrive. I find Byteball one of the most easy to use around, even though that aspect still can improved.
This consideration has more to do with religion (hope and believe) than with facts.
Depending on the wallet, the use of Bitcoin may not be more complicated. - But here there are clear, prominent features:
They trade Fiat directly for Bitcoin. Why? Because it is possible.
You exchange Bitcoin for goods and services. Why? Because there is a growing infrastructure for it.

None of this can be offered by bite ball. Worse still: The bite ball regime has so far consistently ignored the naming of both factors. Rather one deals there with the development of useless nonsense.

Consequence: Although technically better it will undoubtedly sink in the flood of other Altcoins, simply because the benefit is missing or cannot be convincingly conveyed. The demand is missing, and with a dumb distribution policy it is not increased either.
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 04, 2018, 07:21:14 AM

Ask your neighborhood why they are not interested in Cryptos and analyze the reactions.

You should also remember to ask your neighbothood what they think about crypto once the financial market will have crashed worse than 2008 - as it surely will, and they will have lost their beloved FIAT money. I see many people now saying Byteball (as all of crypto) have no real world use. That's quite true... for now. But don't forget why Bitcoin was allegedly created in the first place: to create a form of money which would not disappear by magic as FIAT money DID disappear and in big quantities in 2008.
We're now just setting the foundations for the future. And compared to other coins Byteball's tech is outstanding in this process.
Who exactly is the bite balls target group?
Mine, i.e. the producer and trader at least not. As a result, not the consumers either.

My customers pay with Bitcoin. The customers of others especially with Monero. The latter in particular is becoming increasingly important. Monero has the highest turnover on BISQ.

When Fiat crashes also the regulated markets crash.
The already exponentially growing unregulated market will then gain enormous popularity and correspondingly the currencies that dominate this market, mainly because there is an infrastructure for it.

So who should be interested in bite ball?
138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 03, 2018, 02:02:00 PM
it's a pity, i hope the Project can survive.
If everyone is just waiting for the next mischief of the regime, that certainly won't happen.

Moving the Alps to the North Sea is certainly an impressive achievement, but what is the benefit?

Ask your neighborhood why they are not interested in Cryptos and analyze the reactions.
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 03, 2018, 10:50:18 AM
A turnaround is not yet in sight.

"Historical index for the Byteball Bytes price prediction: D
[..]
Byteball Bytes price equal to 45.329 USD at 2018-11-03, but your current investment may be devalued in the future."


https://walletinvestor.com/forecast/byteball-bytes-prediction

The development of prices is an indicator of demand. Without a fundamental basis there is no demand, and speculators have no interest at the moment.
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 03, 2018, 08:41:40 AM
Regulated markets do not want crypto.
Unregulated markets do not want Fiat.

Where does bite ball orient itself?
That's right. Towards the regulated markets.  Grin
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