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121  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: How many 6970's per 1500W PS on: September 29, 2011, 05:20:37 AM
I'm a little confused..  if you really meant 5970 you might want to edit the topic and OP Wink
122  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: How many 6970's per 1500W PS on: September 29, 2011, 04:14:07 AM
I currently have 4 6970 cards to 1500w Strider power supply...
and was wondering if i could add a 5'th one.

I don't think you will get another 5970 though.

I'd wager you're right Tongue
123  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: How many 6970's per 1500W PS on: September 29, 2011, 03:46:35 AM
Ah, multi-rail fail.  Appears that PSU has 8 12V rails, each capable of ~300W.  So 1 card per rail (~190W each).

I'd wager you've got 1 rail dedicated to the CPU 4/8pin, 1 to the 24pin ATX, and the other 6 divvied up between peripheral connectors.

As long as you can balance the rails properly, yes.  5 6970s is going to be ~1000W.
124  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: PCI to PCIE Bridge Adapter on: September 23, 2011, 11:36:30 PM
I read that there are those who remove the bracket on one side of the 1x so that they can plug in the 16x card and it still works.  Is it true?   Anyone else tried?

Yes, that works fine.  Cablesaurus' original 1x -> 16x extenders were exactly that; 1x -> 1x extenders with the end of the connector cut off to allow the card to seat properly.   I'm currently usisng 4 of those.
125  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: PCI to PCIE Bridge Adapter on: September 23, 2011, 06:07:17 PM
You *absolutely must* use powered PCIe extender cables on these PCI -> PCI-e adapters!

The maximum power output on normal PCI slots is 35W (I believe, couldn't find a reference offhand), where PCI-e must supply 75W.

Its a gamble whether or not your card requires that much from the slot, but worst case scenario is the card won't power up.

Get extenders with molex power and save yourself some headache.
126  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Question for the PCIex extension cable on: September 21, 2011, 12:37:55 PM
I guess you've bought a PCIe x1 -> x1 cable extender Huh

Which would be perfectly fine.  You do not need a full 16x connection to mine.  I have 4 cards running well on 1x -> 1x extenders.

[Edit] NM, I see where the OP mentions 1->16x extenders where the illustration indicates otherwise.
127  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: MINING RIG QUESTION on: September 20, 2011, 01:40:47 PM
I picked up a bunch of momentary NO (normally open) push button switches, a couple of mini breadboards, and some jumper wires from sparkfun.com

They sell male-female jumper wires that fit the motherboard header perfectly, and plug right into the breadboard.  10 seconds later and I've got a 'real' power switch Smiley

It's not the cheapest solution, and these parts can probably be found cheaper elsewhere, but I had picked up all this stuff for another project.  The jumper wire is perfect for quick prototyping.

Wires: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9385
Switch: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/97
Breadboard: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/7916

These guys are more or less in my backyard so I didn't have to pay shipping either, which saved a bit.

If I remember I'll grab a pic of the switch when I get home.
128  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: PCI-E Extenders all bad? Lots of problems. on: September 20, 2011, 05:02:51 AM
Great find, aluminum tape is so useful Smiley

Will definitely be giving this a try.
129  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: PCI-E Extenders all bad? Lots of problems. on: September 19, 2011, 09:32:29 PM
I bought a Cablesaurus 1x-16x. They delivered quickly but it doesnt work for me at all, even with the shorting-to-recognize trick.

Since you're talking about shorting, I assume you mean you're using it in a 16x slot.

Does it work in a 1x slot?  It could simply be a bad one.
130  Economy / Speculation / Re: mtgox bots on: September 19, 2011, 06:29:46 PM
So what I'm seeing: an 88.69 BTC purchase props the price up .04 BTC, and a sale of .17 BTC dumps the price .03 BTC. What is missing here?

The 'current' price is the last transaction price.  If that 0.17BTC had sold for $1 instead, you'd have seen the price drop $4.30 until the next, hopefully sane, transaction. 

The price stays relatively even only because a) nobody will buy for more if they don't have to, and b) it doesn't make sense to sell for significantly less (unless you're just dumping 'free' or 'cheap' coins without regard to price)

If you watch mtgoxlive.com, you'll see that kind of thing happening all day long.
131  Economy / Speculation / Re: mtgox bots on: September 19, 2011, 12:46:45 PM
Carefully re-read the first sentence of Cluster2k's post.

If you have enough transaction volume, the fees decrease enough to make those transactions profitable.
132  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 5830 PROBLEMS on: September 19, 2011, 01:41:00 AM
There are lots of factors in play that determine your max stable clocks.  On one of my boards, anything over 960 causes hard locks.  An identical board runs the same cards at 1010/320 with rock solid stability, and could probably go higher.  Yet another different board tops at 970.

OP needs to give more info if he wants any useful answers.   
133  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Sapphire 5830 reaches 90C, but fan speed stays ~50% on: September 18, 2011, 05:13:29 PM
5830 sapphire extreme 995/325 mhz 1.63 core volts generally 60C  (uk avg temps now 15C, rig is in my garage)
5830 XFD 950/325 1.63 core generally 62C

Whoa, isn't 1.63V waaay high?  Maybe you mean 1.163V?
134  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What is the best Graphics Card for mining? on: September 18, 2011, 05:01:20 PM
Heh, now this is getting a little off topic, but the OP seems to have disappeared anyway.

I do think this deserves it's own thread, a nice fat DIY watercooling guide would be amazing Wink
135  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Refurnished Graphic Cards on: September 17, 2011, 05:32:50 PM
I have seen a lot of those even 6990 for sale in Alibaba, but they require quite huge volume minimum of 100 each or sometimes 1000.  Maybe for those who are using a lot of such graphic cards, we can join together and order a batch (for me I just need 3 or 4  Smiley ).  But I had never deal in Alibaba before, not sure how reliable the China sellers are.  Anyone tried?

That's quite a large order to gamble, especially when even the major retailers have had trouble finding these cards.
136  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What's the latest on 7xxx series from radeon? on: September 17, 2011, 05:30:00 PM
Speaking of talking out your ass... aren't you the one with the 6850s running at 420 MH/s each?

Been running it two hours now.  Seems solid so far.
Hashrate improved ~1% using cgminer  (840 MHash/s vs 832MHash/s on pair of overclocked & shader-unlocked 6850s).

You're getting 420 MH/s on a 6850?

Yeah.   Well I am running them as 6870s.

Replace all the 6850/6870 with 6950 / 6970 and that all makes a lot more sense.

I nearly ordered 6850s instead of 6950s for the same mistake.
137  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: New 5970's (Newegg) For $400 Shipped! on: September 17, 2011, 04:53:49 AM
Yeah, don't understand why investing in hardware is a good idea now.  Also the amount of Bitcoin per block will be having at the end of the year.

Not exactly - as of this post we're at block 145669, and the size of the block reward doesn't halve until 210,000 blocks.

There are 64,331 blocks until we reach that point, and difficulty adjustments attempt to keep blocks generating at the rate of 1 every 10 minutes.

64,331 * 10 min = 643,310 minutes until that point, or

10,721 hours
446.74 days
~14.9 months

There's well over a year before you have to worry about that, though at current exchange rates ($4.87/BTC) it may take well longer than that to pay off your hardware.
138  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 5830 PROBLEMS on: September 17, 2011, 01:08:32 AM
330mh/s is pushing a 5830 pretty hard.  If your temps are hitting ~90C that could easily be thermal throttle.
139  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUIDE: Five easy things to screw-up and overlook in heavy duty mining. on: September 16, 2011, 11:09:52 PM
What is it converted to?  Ignoring LED's and fans of course.

Bitcoins, silly!
140  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: help needed in fpga (actually enlightment and instructions...) on: September 16, 2011, 08:14:48 PM
This is back-seat-driver, off the cuff stuff, with-no-experience-in-these-things, but:

The vendor that produced this card likely a) has their FPGA instructions stored in a memory chip, and usually these are re-programmable (aka 'firmware update').  If not, it means they're b) loading the instruction set on the fly, usually as bytecode contained in their driver software.

If the card happens to have an open-source driver, and you're really lucky, it may be possible to figure out either a) how to update the firmware with your own instruction set, or b) figure out how they load it on the fly, and load your instructions instead.

If you're unlucky, they don't have any open-source driver or equivalent, or the bytecode they use is signed in a particular way to avoid people doing exactly what you're trying to do.  This is more common in, say, a smartphone than an off-the-shelf video recorder card.  In either of those cases, your only choice is to interface with the FPGA directly as EM suggests.

Regardless, it's going to take some work and a lot of trial-and-error to get anywhere with it.  By the time you do, the 10-15mh/s may no longer be worth the power it consumes.
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