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121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 27, 2024, 12:37:36 AM
It cannot be denied that Bayern Munich is indeed the number 1 club in the Bundesliga, it is still a widespread club. Even though they were ultimately defeated by Leverkusen and it is Leverkusen who are at the peak of their success at the moment, actually there are several things that must be understood.

Bayern Munich were quite good at the start of the season, however, their inconsistency made Leverkusen succeed in overtaking them and actually became top standing to win. But for next season, we will still have to wait and see. Because after all, Bayern have learned from many things that happened last season, things that made them finally recognize Leverkusen's greatness this time. And they will definitely get it back with strong reasons. A club that big in the Bundesliga, which has been a top club for a long time, certainly won't just stop when they are overtaken by another club in one season.



Bayern Munich is still best club in Bundesliga even though they lost to Leverkusen. They had some ups and downs which allowed Leverkusen to take the lead. But I think Bayern will come back stronger next season because they learned from their mistakes. A big club like Bayern won't give up after one bad season. They will work harder and be back on top soon. Bayern hired new coach Kompaney but he did not do well in his last job so it is unclear if he can help Bayern improve. One thing is certain Leverkusen is likely to have another great season while Bayern still has a lot to prove.
By the way Leverkusen is doing well and Bayern Munich is struggling. Leverkusen has good players and good coach so they will likely keep doing well.
122  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 26, 2024, 06:41:59 AM
Toh guys mujy laghta ha ky Jo Bitcoin pizza contest voting start Howa ta woh almost end hogai haa aur hamary member ka top 5 Ami aany ky chances door door tak Nazar Nahi aarahy haa toh bs ab us khayal Mai baithna ky kuch hoga toh yeh faida mand Nahi aur ab hammy apny local board ka voting contest start Karna chahiya taaky community chill ho ab SAB aisy serious aur kamoosh baity haa ky ALLAH na kary unky ha mout Howe ho toh community thoore Hans mukh hojai ge Jo Abhi recent masla Chal haa km monthly post ka toh woh bhi thoora solved hojai ga aur hum us Mai thoora aagy ka lahe-amal bhi discuss kardyngy. Toh shahzadafzal qadam barhai hum apky sath ha waisy bhi garmi ky bohout satai howy ha aur opper Sy load shedding NY toh jeena Haram kardiya ha toh us voting contest Ki kushi Mai hum apna gham bul dyungy aur community ky Kushi ky rang Mai bang hojyngy
Hahaha Zain bahi Jo log community ke contest ma Jeet jayenge wo to definitely apna gham Bhool jayenge per Jo Banda harega os ka ghaam tu double ho Jayega hahaha as forum ke contest ma be nahe jeeta aur edhr be nahe jeeta Khair ye tu qesmat ka kaayl ha Kon jeeta ha Kon nahe ye tu pata lag he Jayega sub bhaiyo ko. ab bat karte Hain post ki tu hame chahye ke ke har bande se rozana ke heessab de 2 post collect kar yahn per aur es ma  zyada tar ayse hote Hain ke UN ko pata he nahe hota ke hum me post keia ha ke nahe to es hawale se ek choti se team bannani chahye ke wo os bande ko yad dehani karwaye aur kesi Roz kesi bande se post reh be jaye tu ye team os ke apne record me raknkar os bande agle din os bande se in post ki recovery kare. Mere khyal ma ye sub se zyada best tareeqa ha apne post count ko barhane ka.

Salam to everyone and both of you guys, Waah g waah, woo kia kehte hain outer community maa 2 OG's future koo lee kar serious hain lgata haa abb kuhc badal jayee gaa iss forum paa at least mujhe too esa hii lagtaa after checking this discussion.

Mujhee BTT Paksitan local thread kaa future maryam nawaz kaa hathon maaa chand paar apnee sunehree door kii taraf gamzan nazar aa raha, haha just kidng guys, yee idea achaa haa magar kia faida, already hamara aik TG community group haa osme just Galadiator and koi Fiasal umar esa hii kuch naem haa woo active hote kabi kabi, wahan bii yee loog, 2050 kii batain kar rehe hotee oo hamare oper see jatii hain.

So behtar haa joo haa osko ahcaa kia jyee bajyee aik new start kaa, as Board too abi tak nai milla orr main chahtaa hun board mille too main bass moderator baan jaon haha, sabki tabiyat saaf karon gaa kia kehte hoo @themepen esa hoo saktaa kiaaa..

My to keh keh ky thak gaya sab ko ky kam az kam ek post local thread ko diya karen. Par koi sunta hi nai hai ab to my khud bhi iss sy pichy hatt gaya hun. Koi nai sunta to phr khud un ky jesy ho jao. Hahaha.

Or rahi bat Maryam nawaz ki to phr to ham samaj len chaand par land kar bhi chuky hen. Or phr ham sy hmari kamai kaa hissa bhi liye jaye gaa uss ky liye jo chaand par pihnchny ky liye kharch huwa. Yaa phr ham sy bheek maangi jaye gi. Yaa phr chori ki jaye gi. In sy to yehi umeed hai. Yaa bheek yaa tax yaa phr chori.

Or rahi bat moderator ki post ki to ap is ko deserve karty hen bhai. My to bss ewen chunga munga saa hun. Or bilkul tbyt to aap saaf kar ky hi rakhen gy sab ki. Jab hamen 2030 ky bad local board mil jaye ga. Hahaha... Just kidding bro... Baqi ap waqy hi my deserve karty hen.
123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: June 26, 2024, 01:03:22 AM
After a long time an official test match is coming between India Women vs South Africa Women .
They have played the ODI series recently and India Women team won the series with 3-0. But I appreciate the South Africa Women team performance too. Well both teams are good. So we can't say anything at this time. The match will start on 28 June. I hope both will play good. But here still India women team is looking much stronger. But there is a big difference between ODI format and Test match format so we can't say anything. May be South Africa Women team will perform well and try to win this match. So let's wait for the 28 and Match start. Smiley
Test match between India Women and South Africa Women is coming up and it is going to be exciting. India women team won ODI series with 3-0 but South Africa Women team played well too. India women seems stronger but South Africa Women could surprise us. And you are right Test match is different from ODI format so we can not predict what will happen. Both teams might face challenges and it will be interesting to see how they play on June 28. I wish both teams good luck it's going to be great match. But still I think India women team is looking more stronger as compare to South Africa Women team.
124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 26, 2024, 12:11:55 AM
If Bayern Leverkusen can continue to perform well as they did last season, they will have the possibility to win the Bundesliga. Even if they make up their minds, they will still win the league title, probably even the Champions League, if the big clubs realize in the competition, I am still believing with Leverkusen because they still have the best coach xabi Alonso, he will still be there coach next season and he will try his hardest to win another trophy for them, but he won't be so easily anymore because Bayern Munich have changed coaches and the new coach will do everything i And Harry Kane has not yet succeeded in the Bayern Munich he will do is best next season and achieve title. since he fail in the Tottenham he won't strive to lose for Munich for the second time. Let see how the Munich will accomplish this season whether Leverkusen will still win for the second time. 
Bayer Leverkusen impressive performance last season makes them strong contender for Bundesliga title. With Xabi Alonso at helm they have talented coach who will push hard for another trophy. However it won't be easy as Bayern Munich has new coach and Harry Kane who will be determined to succeed after failing to win with Tottenham. Competition will be tough but Leverkusen has potential to repeat their success. It is exciting to see how season will be played and whether Leverkusen can overcome challenges and win again. Alonso leadership and team determination will be important in their pursuit of another title.
125  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 25, 2024, 06:15:32 AM
New Target: Bitcoin prepping breakout with '$90K+' BTC price target

السلام علیکم بھائیوں، امید ہے سب ٹھیک ہو گئے
Walaikumuslam.
Alhamdulillah bhai ap sunaen..?

Ek to naa ye barry barry traders. Or ye analysts apny mutabiq barry barry khuwab hi dikhaty hen. Han mana jaa sakta hai ky long term ky lihaaz sy Bitcoin 100k bhi cross kar jaye ga. Lekn abhi sy 90k pohncha dena. Kher ye to hai Crypto market or kabhi bhi kuch bhi ho sakta hai. Or my samjta hun ky market 90% news par chalti hai or 10% grapgh par. News aaty hi sary ccharts ky pattern fail ho jaty hen or market news par move karti hai. Well abhi qareeb qareeb my Bitcoin kaa move 90k kaa nazar to nai araha. Baqi ye sahib keh rahy hen to maan lety hen.
126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: June 25, 2024, 06:03:15 AM
South Africa Women's team has been defeated by India Women's team in the first two of the three match ODI series and Indian Women's team has sealed the series in the first two matches. In the first match we saw India women team win by a huge margin against South Africa women team but in the second ODI match Indian women team won by just four runs. The performance of the second ODI match was really worth watching as both the teams performed almost equally in this match. If the last finish could have been a little better, the second match might have gone in South Africa's favor and the third ODI would have been the final match of the series. Congratulations to Team India for winning the ODI series against South Africa with one match in hand
In these three matches I really enjoyed the second one. In which South Africa Women team played really well. I was not expecting that they will perform like this. First of all the target was very high. And second surprising thing was that South Africa Women team lost the match by 4 runs only. Means they played really well. Its mean if South Africa Women team will focus on their batting so they can improve much and can beat any team.
127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: June 25, 2024, 05:56:21 AM
What a surprising moment that Afghanistan is in semifinals. And one more surprising thing is that now Australia didn't qualify for the semifinals. And now these are the four teams are in semifinals. South Africa, Afghanistan, India and England. So first match us between Afghanistan and South Africa and second is between England and India. And I am looking that India and Afghanistan will play the final match. So let's see.
128  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Knowledge is the New Gold on: June 24, 2024, 01:50:35 AM
Many people out there still don't know the danger of keeping their asset in exchange,  even people that have been into crypto for a very longtime arr very comfortable in keeping bitcoin in exchange.  I'm so glad for the forum, if not here I'll also think that every wallet is the same and I won't know the risk of just dealing with exchange wallet.  Honestly is a gold, because when you have knowledge it will only bring more value to you.
Many people even those who have used crypto for long time do not know risks of keeping their crypto on exchanges. I am also thankful for this forum which taught me that not all wallets are safe because I read many threads about this. If I did not learn this I would have thought all wallets were the same and put my crypto at risk. Learning is very valuable because it helps us make good choices and keeps our assets safe I am still in learning phase and this will never ens. It is important to understand how to keep our crypto safe and take control of our digital assets. Because we are listening many news about hacking day by day. So we should keep safe our assets.
129  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Merit] Share your best local board posts/topics on: June 24, 2024, 01:42:40 AM
Pakistan Local Board

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg63921139#msg63921139
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg63929835#msg63929835
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg64015119#msg64015119
4. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg64011151#msg64011151
5. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg64038019#msg64038019
130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: June 24, 2024, 01:25:23 AM
South Africa vs West Indies

Today match is very important match for these both teams especially for West Indies. Because West Indies have 2 points but they have good net run rate. If South Africa will win so they will directly qualify for the semifinals but if they will lose so these both teams will have 4 4 points. And here net run rate will be considered. If West Indies will win so I think they will qualify for semifinals because they have net run rate of 1.18 but South Africa has 0.6. So there are the chances of West Indies to go in semifinals. So this Match will be very exciting. So let's see. Match will starts in 15 minutes. Shocked
The match has already been started. South Africa won the toss and they thought to bowl first and gave batting to West Indies team. West Indies is playing well at this time. They have collected 72 runs in 10 overs. And we know very well that West Indies is the team which play really fast in the last overs and they have ability to collect 180+ runs. And if they will go above 180 runs so that will be a tough target for South Africa. By the way West Indies lost 2 wickets. So let's see who will win. Because this is really difficult to predict at this time.
131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 24, 2024, 12:14:08 AM
Bayern Munich will continue to trigger for elite results but when it comes to Bayer Leverkusen performance, we understand how this game have been, the best clubs goes home with titles. For our information, Leverkusen won the Bundesliga title with unbeaten race which jd absolutely one of the best performance for the club for such a long time. The Bundesliga title was compromised from the hands of the original winners, Bayern Munich completely portrayed poor stats and we've watched how things played out.
Bayern Munich is expected to maintain their high standards but Bayer Leverkusen past performance shows that even top teams can struggle. Leverkusen unbeaten run to Bundesliga title was an impressive feat testament to their strength. By the way Bayern Munich subpar performance allowed Leverkusen to snatch title rare slip up for usually dominant Bavarians. This outcome shows that even best teams can have off seasons and Leverkusen capitalized on Bayern weaknesses to secure a historic win.
132  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 23, 2024, 01:38:08 AM
Madyan Incident
Jaisa ky ap sab social media Sy wakif ha aur social media pa ik incident kafi trending Mai ha aur woh haa ik bandy ko Qur'an ky jalany ky ilzam par poory city ny mil kar mar Diya, is sy pahly woh police custody Mai ta but Poora gawo bandooko samaith waha taany Mai Gus Gai aur taany ko aagy lagany ky baad bandy ko waha Sy mar kar uta liya aur usky baad jala Diya. Toh teek haa qanoon ik country Mai Isliya hota ha ky woh dono parties ky bayanaat ly ky usky base par decision kary but yaha toh Kisi ny doosry Ki Suni Nahi bs jis ny Kaha us ky peechy Chal pary. Ab is baat ka Kon Shahid ha ky waqi is NY Kiya aur agr Kiya toh Kya wajah tee bs Nahi Kisi ny daikh Nahi aur poocha Nahi aur mar Diya.

Kuch logo ky mutabiq yeh koi zaati dushmani ya jagry Ki wajah Sy Howa bs bandy ny mooky ka faida otaya aur bs Jo mu Mai ayaa bool ky bandy ko side line kardiya. Jis bandy NY drama start Kiya uski interview social media pa ha usky paas koi evidence Nahi sab usy comment Mai zaleel kar rahy ty.

Toh apki Rai Mai yeh bandy ky sath Sahi Howa agr suppose is ny Kiya toh wajah jaanya zarori Nahi ta aur kud Sy faisla Karna zarori ta apni Rai ka izhar kijiya
In my point of view ye hmari adlya par ek swalya nishan hai. Agar hmara insaaf chand takkon par naa bikta hota to shayad esa kabhi bhi naa hota. Yani ap zara zyada door naa jaen ap thora saa pichy chaly jaen. Ek Namus e Risalat ﷺ kaa case wo maseehi orat Asia wala. Jis ko already phansi ki saza ho chuki thi or wo etraafe jurm bhi kar chuki thi. Lekn kaya huwa hmari adaalton ny ussy barri kiya or phr hukumat ny with protocol ussy baahir bhi bheja. Yaani insaaf to chala gaya tel leny.

Ab agar yahan qaanun hota or in hassas maslon par ussi waqt foran action liya jata to esy masly pesh naa aaty. Ab koi gustakhi kar ly or hmara qanun un ko chor dy to awam kaa dill to paash paash hoga naa. Ab ap ko pata najaany kitny hi cases hen Namus e Risalat ﷺ ky jo ky pending hen or un par fard e jurm aaid bhi ho chuki hai lekn un ko saza nai di jaa rahi. Agar yahan qaanun ki paasdaari hoti or logon ko pata hota ky haan hamen hmari adalten insaaf den gi. To wahan jahan ye waqiya huwa wahan kissi naa kissi n zrur kehna thaa ky iss ko police ky hwaly kiya jaaye. Or agar phr bhi esa naa hota or log ye kaam karty to jinhon ny kiya hai un ko pakra jata or pucha jata ky ap ny esa kiu kiya jab ky adalat mojud hai jo filfor saza deti hai. Lekn jab logon ko insaaf nai mily gaa to koi bhi us ko police ky hwaly karny ki bat nai kary ga.

Mery nazdeek in hassas maslon kaa hall sirf ek hi hai ky hmari adalat esy cases ko lamba naa kary jald az jald adalat bethy or agar jurm sabit ho to foran saza di jaye. Taa ky next koi esaa kaam karny ki koshish hi naa kary. Or ussy para ho ky ainda esa kaam nai karna.
133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: June 23, 2024, 01:05:37 AM
3rd ODI India Women vs South Africa Women
India women team is still looking strong. South Africa Women team fought well in the last match but didn't you see the first match how South Africa Women played in the furst match. That's right we can bot predict correctly at this time but in my point of view India women team is still stronger as compare to South Africa Women team. Yes the South African team can fight well but I don't think so they will win the match. By the way let's wait for the twist. Maybe South Africa will give a surprise today.
134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting law ignores technology and encourages clandestinity on: June 23, 2024, 12:46:29 AM
The fight against crypto innovations and intergretion into our various systems by the government is not something that is peculiar to the Brazilian government alone, majorly every country in the world (aside from those that have made bitcoin a legal tender) are fighting the use of cryptocurrencies in one way or another.

Come to Nigeria and you did meet a worser fight against crypto, though the Nigerian government currently careless about gambling casinos, and do not care what form of currency that the casinos operating within the country intergretes into their system as a means of deposits and withdrawals, but in general terms, the government doesn't want the existence and use of crypto in the country, and I think it's obvious what they are afraid of.
Many governments around world are hesitant to accept cryptocurrencies like bitcoin. Nigeria is good example where the government allows gambling casinos but tries to stop cryptocurrency use. Governments are worried about losing control over money mostly have fear of money laundering. While their worries make sense stopping cryptocurrency progress might not be best solution. Instead governments should find ways to regulate and educate people about crypto so they can benefit from it while addressing their concerns.
135  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help me choose an Exchange & Wallet Question on: June 22, 2024, 08:36:58 AM
You are right, we'll I don't know if OKX is officially used in the UK but I'm very familiar with it and I enjoyed using their P2P services  before it got delisted for user in my country, well I think Bybit is another good exchange that could be used by traders and their P2P market is very okay, I currently used that since the P2P of Binance and OKX have been banned from users in my country.

 But then I don't advise anyone to hold Cryptocurrency in exchanges especially if you're holding for a long term, maybe on could sell their assets using exchanges but holding is very risky except maybe the person is using it to trade or is buying a Cryptocurrency from an exchange.

 Like you said, their are many alternatives asides exchanges to hold their assets all it just takes is a proper research on wallets that would be very suitable and well secured for holding assets since most exchanges are not very secured.
I agree with you about OKX and Bybit being viable options for traders especially when it comes to their P2P services. However I will advise against holding cryptocurrencies on exchanges especially when you have long term investments. Exchanges are vulnerable to security risks and potential to ban as you have experienced in your country. Instead it is good to research and utilize secure wallets that are according to your needs. While exchanges are useful for buying and selling assets it is essential to prioritize  safety of your investments by storing them in reliable wallets. With proper research we can find good and secure alternatives for exchanges for holding our assets.
136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 22, 2024, 01:21:55 AM
Bayern Munich really had to change the strategy they used to compete in the new season because they managed to get a very strong opponent and it was difficult to beat. As you said, the coach will indeed have a different character. Hopefully Vincent Kompany will have the opportunity to show the strategy he uses to win this season. All of this also depends on the players at Bayern Munich. If they respect and obey what Vincent Kompany said then there is a chance to win this season.
Yes you are right Bayern Munich new season strategy needs refresh given strong opponents they will face. Vincent Kompany unique coaching style will be crucial in this regard. I hope he gets chance to showcase his winning strategy this season. However it is not just about coach the players buy in is equally essential. If  Bayern Munich players embrace Kompany vision and follow his instructions they will have good chance of success this season. It is collective effort that will determine their fate.
137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: June 22, 2024, 12:39:43 AM
United States Vs West Indies, Although the West Indies would be the better of the two teams, the last match in the United States was outstanding only for a slightly slow innings by two batsmen to lose the match by 18 runs to South Africa.  But if he can do well in today's match then we should see a good competitive match with West Indies.


Today is an interesting match of the United States of America vs West Indies and this time, the match will be a tough competition because both teams are equally the same in the current time, not in past.

However, these both teams are hosting the World Cup and now both are playing against each other. I think West Indies will win in this match. United States of America also playing good according to my perception. Let’s see what will happen in this match. I am hoping for both teams to be playing good cricket. This group 2 match is going to hosted by Bridgetown and let’s see who will win there.

Remember USA beat Pakistan and after that, they are yet to beat another big nation in order to make their chances to qualify for the semis. Also, West Indies must also avoid another defeat as they already lost to England in their first match against England. This makes this match crucial for both teams in the context of this WC.
Exactly they both nations are hosting the T20 World Cup 2024 and today they will face each other. Both have lost one one match. West Indies lost from England and USA lost from South Africa. South Africa already won two matches so I think they will qualify for the semis easily.

Match started but delayed for a while and now started again. Keep in mind that West Indies won the toss and they selected bowl first and USA is playing at this time. They have lost 1 wicket and they made only 6 runs in 1.4 overs. Means overall USA team is looking under pressure. So let's see how they will perform.
138  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 21, 2024, 02:16:42 AM
Brother, Yeh TC ka word forum pe use kerna munasib nhi ha or sirf Faisal bhai nahi mere khyal mein sub hee log samjh gaye han.   Grin
Hahahah!
Sir word mashhoor hi barra hai. Yani college my thy to ye sunny ko mila yani class my kuch students esy hoty hen or lazmi hoty hen. University gaye to wahan bhi esy log dekhny ko mily. Office gaye to wahan bhi esy log thy hi thy. Ab ap ny kaha hai ky forum par ye word bolna munasib nai to nai bolty par ye har ek ki zindgi ki talakh haqiqat hai. Or esy khushamdi log to phr har jaga milen gy.

Or rahi bat market ki to my ny to dekhna hi chor diya hai. Ye waqt hai holding kaa or I am waiting for the bull season jo ky bohat jald aany hi wala hai. Or phr apni holdin sell out kar ky profit nikalen gy. Baqi dekhty hen kaya banta hai.
139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Recording gambling activities on: June 21, 2024, 02:09:00 AM
I think it is great idea to keep record of your gambling activities including your wins and losses too. With tracking your gambling history will help you to identify patterns which you made and can give you a will to make good decisions about your gambling habits. Abd with calculating your total losses you can realize financial impact of your gambling habits and can motivate to reduce your spending. Further more recognizing emotions of losses can help you avoid developing addictive behavior for gambling. Keep record can serve as valuable tool for responsible gambling allow you to set boundaries and make good choices about your gambling activities. It is simple yet effective way to promote accountability and mindfulness in your gambling lifestyle.
140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: June 21, 2024, 01:28:08 AM
That was a luckiest moment that Bangladesh qualified for the Super 8 round and now they are playing with Australia means the strongest team in cricket world.
Well Australia won the toss and chose to bowl first and Bangladesh is playing their turn now and they are looking little weak in batting. Because they have already lost a wicket and they made only 17 runs in 4 overs. And the current run rate is 4.25 which is very low according to T20I matches. If they will play like this so chances of winning of Bangladesh are looking very low because Australia is a very strong team. By the way cricket is unpredictable so we can't say anything at this time.
Bangladesh tried really to qualify for the super 8 round and now they are in and playing the first match of this round with Australia which you said a strongest team. And I also think they are very strong in cricket. Like we know that they already won ICC ODI World Cup.
And according to the current situation of the match Bangladesh has lost 3 wickets. And they have played half overs means 10 overs and they made only 67 runs. If they will play 20 overs so they can cross 150 runs. And in my point of view this will be a average target for Australian team and they can easily chase. And you are right we can't say anything at this time. So let's see who will win.
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