How difficult is it to get approved to short BTC on CampBX? That sounds like a major plus with the price so volatile lately.
I just opened an acct and did a Dwolla depsoit for funding but didn't work. It took $50 out of my Dwolla acct but didn't show up on CampBX....not a great way to start.
I see their offices are just 10 minutes from me, which i like for some reason. I guess I could go over there and harass them if they tried to steal my money.
But have any of you shorted BTC with them? I wish I would have known about this when it was over 200...probably would have been very easy money.
As I understand it their trading engine supports margin and shorting, but they have yet to actually enable the feature on the site yet (not enough volume). As for Dwolla deposits, how long have you waited? Usually it takes a few hours, sometimes as long as a day or so.
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What exactly are you trying to hedge against? If it's the dollar, then Gold seems to be the classic hedge and you already stated that you are overweight there.
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However, the newer ASP.NET MVC platform is the best thing since sliced bread (in my opinion anyways)
Can you create a complex website as easily as this with it: https://ciyam.org/slideshow.html ? Certainly not, but it's a programming environment, not a point-n-click web app generator. As a programmer, I'm pretty sure you understand the difference.
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Simply put from my experience, the main reason that these web apps are HTML/CSS/PHP/Python/Apache/JavaScript/MySQL is because that is what is taught at University if you went there to learn how to code for the web.
Most all web devs that left school in the new millennium regard building for the web using .NET as akin to using tables when creating a layout.
For better or worse, .NET will eventually die a death, purely from not being what is recommended. I have seen several complex web projects which were basically ASP/.NET web projects being converted to HTML/PHP.
Whether you consider this good or not, I leave that up to you.
As a .NET guy myself who has also done lots of Java and PHP dev, I can say that "classic" ASP and ASP.NET webforms should certainly die a horrible death. However, the newer ASP.NET MVC platform is the best thing since sliced bread (in my opinion anyways)
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They also have a buggy trading engine, fucked up orderbook,
I've noticed the bid is sometimes higher than the ask. What is with that? In the past I've seen this problem with other Bitcoin exchanges (Tradehill was one). The issue is probably that when someone places an order it goes immediately into the order book, before the matching engine has had a chance to look at it. This results in the book being crossed momentarily until the matching engine executes the order. The solution to this problem is to have new orders queued and not show up on the order book until after the matching engine has processed them.
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Is this just speculation? I feel like this thread needs a chart.
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No skeletons in their closet as far as I know. I've been trading with them since soon after they opened (a year at least? maybe two now?)
My only gripes:
1. Their site and API have been a bit slow lately. Probably because they are picking up new accounts. They are probably due for an infrastructure upgrade.
2. If you trade via the API and try to log into the website, if your bot logs in at the same time you are logged into the website, you'll get kicked off the site. So you need to pause any bots you might have if you actually need to log into the website for anything. Kind of annoying, but shouldn't affect you if you aren't using the API.
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it seams the arbitrator bots are not picking up on bitstamps constant reduced price for bitcoins. price has been at least 5 or > now around four dollar differential. currently the price at STAMP is 120 while the price at gox is 124. cheep coins over at Bitstamp right now.
also its probably a bitcoinity thing but showing sever hours of no info on stamp, two separate occasions in the last 24 hours.
Historically (if you look at the 30 day average on bitcoincharts.com) the price on Bitstamp is usually higher than Gox. I was going to tweak my arbitrage bot now that it seems to be trending lower than Gox, but figured I would wait a few more days to see if this is just a temporary thing or not
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Very cute. But what is it about Linux/JavaScript/Python that's so bad?
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Just put your orders on the books. As long as they are reasonably close to market prices, arbitragers will pick them up.
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Probably something trying to prevent SQL injection by stripping out ticks rather than properly escaping them or using parameterized queries. Sounds like something PHP programmers would do
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99485 members on this forum and we can't even get a compelling answer to question 0: Is this a real attack or just exponential traffic growth?
(Personally and from what I've gathered from several webmasters this does look like an attack... but I want proof, not opinions).
Gox said 4 hours ago on their twitter feed that this was a DDOS. Or are you suspecting that Gox is lying about that? If so, the only people with access to this "proof" you want would be Gox, SoftLayer, Prolexic, or the person actually doing the attack.
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This has nothing to do with it.... any hash can have precomputed rainbow tables.
You're right, any hash can have precomputed rainbow tables - which is why I also said "any unsalted hash".
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You haven't been here long since you failed to mention tradehill Indeed. There's a reason why most of the old-timers won't use Dwolla, and never will. What's the issue with Dwolla? If it's only used as a passthrough from a local bank account to MtGox, there shouldn't be any risk of losing funds. The fee is negligible, the only downside is that it usually takes about a week to funds. The issue with Dwolla is that back in the day they screwed over Tradehill (and probably MtGox and ExchangeBitcoins.com as well) to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars. In a nutshell, it went like this: 1. Dwolla's marketing claimed that Dwolla payments were irreversable. 2. Because of (1) lots of exchanges accepted Dwolla. 3. People started defrauding Dwolla using stolen bank account information, transferring money to exchanges and running off with the coins. 4. Rather than sucking it up and improving their security measures, Dwolla started secretly debiting the exchanges Dwolla accounts - erasing the fraudulant transactions and clawing the money back from the exchanges. 5. Once the exchanges figured this out, there was quite an uproar. ExchangeBitcoins stopped accepting Dwolla and closed down soon after. Tradehill did the same (and sued Dwolla as I understand it). Since then it seems like Dwolla has beefed up their verification standards so this is less of an issue now, but lots of people are still (justifiably) butthurt about it.
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If you are not techy (which I assume you are not as you asked the question) you can easily use an online MD5 calculator for this type of thing: For example I used http://md5-hash-online.waraxe.us/ and came up with: d091fccc62e2d24ab101dbe01ce844f6 It is a hash for a single 5 letter word (all lower case), can you guess? After a 10 second google search for the hash: boobs And this is exactly why MD5 (or any other unsalted hash for that matter) doesn't work for passwords
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It is secure enough that you won't be able to generate two messages that both are valid english and that hash to the same value. But yeah, I wouldn't use it for computer security.
Exactly. I would never use MD5 for something security related, but for this kind of application it is perfectly fine. There are known collision attacks against MD5, but the probability of being able to generate a message that both has the same MD5 hash as the original and still makes any sense whatsoever is about nil.
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# Bitfloor just got their bank account closed # Bitcoin-24 got both their German and Polish bank accounts frozen # CaVirtEx got their Royal Bank account closed, not sure how to fund them right now # MtGox survives and thrives although the SEPA transfers are crippled by insufficient daily limit of their Polish bank account # BTC-E rejects many claims of accounts being hacked - I wouldn't trust a Russian exchange run by unknown people anyway sorry. # BitStamp survives and thrives so far thanks to lax legislation in Slovenia. # BTCChina - no info at all about these? # TradeHill - back from the dead - good for companies maybe. 10000$ minimum to get in and trade 1000$ at a time # CampBX - this seems to be working although with very low daily limits
Did I forget anyone? Also pls correct anything inexact above.
Let's see.. I can think of a few others ExchangeBitcoins.com - One of the first, closed down in an orderly fashion (can't remember why off hand) Bitcoinica - Crashed and burned due to multiple hacks (or looted by Zhou) Bitcoin7 - Disappeared (can't remember if this one was hacked or looted by the owners) CryptoXChange - probably looted by the owners. Intersango.com - still technically alive, but pretty much on life support.
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In the worst case scenario, we can just start snail mailing envelopes full of cash around. Sure, it would be inefficient, but the market would survive without the banks.
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There is the following message on the announcement banner at BitFloor:
Trading will be suspended at 6 PM EST on 2013.04.17. We ask that all users finish any trades they wish to complete and cancel any open trades.
Seems oddly vague. Suspended indefinitely? For 12 hours? Is this a server upgrade, or what?
See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179135.0Seems their bank account was closed and they will be suspending operations until they can get a new one.
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Yeah, this blows, was just starting to do some serious trading there.
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