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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will we see Black Friday tomorow? on: September 14, 2017, 03:09:47 PM
I think the news of the closure of exchanges in China, the beginning of a great fall all cryptocurrency. It looks like we will see bitcoin at$1500.

Don't you think that's a bit pessimistic?

The ban is most likely temporary and there are still massive buy walls from US/EU when dropping this hard.

1500$ is too much.
It will not go bellow 3000$.

I think after 30 of September China will issue a law about some kind of government exchange. And after this will be again stability.
I think bitcoin has no support in the area of$ 3000 (view glass), we don't have a good support at 2700$, but 2000$ for the purchase of 5000 bitcoins! Below 2000 we will not go.
We can just predict, but no body knows what is going to happen tomorrow. If i keep watching this price fall, i may get a heart attack. So will wait until this month end let's see what will happen. But yes the price will not come below $2000. It may be stable at $3000, and it will pick up.
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What cryptocurrency should I invest in with 50 USD? on: September 14, 2017, 03:03:14 PM
what can you advise for newbie in cryptocurrency business for start?

If you would like relative safe and stable growth cash, go with coins in the top 30 marketcap.

These coins are place infront for reasons.

But if you are looking to multiply, you will then looking at ICO coins (Which i won't really suggest) because most people who go greed just got their money gone easily

The investment is $50, so I will suggest you to invest in top 20 altcoins in market cap. You have few options any how today and tomorrow all altcoins price will come low. So if you get a chance to buy waves at $2 you can buy it you can make a double profit within one month. Becasue this coin stable price is $5. This is just my observation. But before investing your money you can think and take suggestions from others and invest. Don't just invest based on my words.
123  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hackers are active these days. on: September 12, 2017, 05:48:44 PM
Hackers are always looking for easy ways to steal you. Create fake websites, phishing, spam even. The main thing is put a good antivirus software and do not go for questionable links, and do not download unproven applications.
I think that there is no time for hackers to hack something of their interest. They are as you told always keep their eyes on differed things and waiting for the right time. And when they got some easy time they hack. It is not that they are active in these days only. But on one way you are right that they are more active these days about bitcoin because of the rising price and increasing interest of the people.
Bitcoin hacking is easy for hackers they don't need any personal information of users they just change the BTC add is enough. What they will do means they will create one virus and release in the net especially in porn sites and some third party google apps. When people install that app or press that link the virus will do his work, and it will swap your BTC add to their BTC add that's it. So Bitcoin users safe your system with an anti virus. Only don't install any third party not verified apps to your system or mobiles.
124  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banking with your bitcoin on: September 12, 2017, 05:41:43 PM
Is it possible that banks would accept bitcoin as your deposits directly from your bitcoin wallet? Or they will ban it because of internet security reasons?

It is very possible but I know not one bank that accepts bitcoin as direct deposit from your bitcoin wallet to your savings account. Because there is no one bank that has bitcoin as an option of their account. It might happen in the future if bitcoin will be as widespread as fiat.

Future means next generation or next to next generation. First thing is banks will oppose this Bitcoin, and they will never support to this Bitcoin. If it becomes legal, then they will lose their business, and it's a big loss for banks. So takes some years to become legal and to convince banks again it will take a number of years totally how many years it will take no idea.
125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: September 12, 2017, 05:33:36 PM
World XI are still playing well and Perera just hit 3 back-to-back 4s. If they manage to get 4s and 6s in the last 4 overs, they will probably win this game and Pakistan needs a wicket badly to stop those big runs from coming. Pak played well in the first session but I still feel they were 10-20 runs short and hence now those runs are coming so fast from the other team. Now the chances of them winning is 80-20.

In spite of some big hitting, World-XI were nowhere close to Pakistan’s total in the end. I think they lost their way in the middle overs, when they lost wickets in a lump. It is possible to accelerate in T20 if you have wickets in hand. Hosting this match was just as important to Pakistan as winning this match. They have now shown the world that it is possible to put in fool-proof security in place and host matches in Pakistan.

Pakistan won this T20 match by 20 runs. Amazing performance from Pakistan. They played good batting and made big score 197 runs with the loss of 5 wickets.but after that they bowled superbly, and they are not let any batsman play a long time. End of the game Darren Sammy tried to the best, but it was too late. Congrats Pakistan.
126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: September 12, 2017, 05:27:17 PM
Yes of course can give you a lot of lessons in life, in terms of financial losses that can teach  you how to value money in a matter of time. Because thar time you are engaged in gambling is you are not thinking to earn money for your family and the only thing you aim is to win and not lossing. If we generally analyze the whole idea here, you didn't expect to loss and yet you really loss because gambling always make's you loss rathen than winning. Having a bigger lossea that cannot be recovered by playing again will certainly give you a nice lessons that will also give you the principle of not joining gambling bets anymore; life will be change as well.

Of course. Gambling can give you lesson life in a way that when you experienced to get lost or to be bankrupt you'll realized that money isn't that good thing to spend all. In gambling you make sure to set limits and goasl so that you'll be able to earn and to avoid being bankrupt. And also gambling teach us how to surely value the money we have in order to earn.

The gambling will teach us what the value of the money is. And once we lost money to earn that money back what all things we do and how many days we have to work. Everything it will teach us. If you take gambling is the entertaining purpose, then you won't learn any lessons because you will never think about your loss. But who will play for money they will learn many lessons from this gambling.
127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many Bitcoins needed for martingale on: September 12, 2017, 05:22:01 PM
2) To play with Martingale you need unlimited balance to recover losses
Not true. You only need enough to allow you for a certain number of multiplied bets. That number is usually at least 30, preferably more. If you start with 0,0001, a 10 bets will bring you up to over 0.1, 15 bets to over 3 btc and so on. Being able to make ~30 bets in a row should keep you safe, but still nobody does that. You'd need to trust the site with a lot of coins and the reward wouldn't be that high anyway.
Something no matter how unlikely if you gave it enough time is going to eventually happen, having enough money to 30 bets is not enough, having money for 40 or 50 bets is not enough, if you keep playing is going to happen, this is why you see stories of people losing a fortune in the casino because they think it is never going to happen to them, that they are never going to lose 31 times in a row, but it happens all the time.
How many bets are not mattered, while using martingale method the betting amount continuously increasing. sometimes you are ready to play with the high amount to win martingale run. for this reason only all the sites will put one limit you can not place more than that limit. so you must accept your defeat. investing in martingale method is a waste of money.
 
128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Kill The Income Tax on: September 11, 2017, 06:01:37 PM
Personally, I think that it is a good idea for a bitcoin and other cryptocurrency to kill income tax. The death of income tax will open up a wider opportunity for the users of bitcoin to have bigger income. But honestly, i think this isn't possible because income tax is primarily the source of budget of the government. It is our own contribution to the country.
Except for few Gulf countries, all country governament will run based on this income tax amount. If they not collect income tax then it is not at all possible to run the country. It will effect on the country economy. That is why the govt is not making this Bitcoin transaction legal in their countries. If they get any income, all countries will accept this Bitcoin.
Yes government's inability to monitor and regulate cryptocurrencies is a main reason to not legalize their use in their countries but that is simply shadow chasing as ultimately everyone gets to pay one form of tax or the other and bitcoin cannot stop that.
The end users like Bitcoin because they no need to pay any extra money for their transaction. this will save more money to end users. I will give one example to buy any electronic goods we need to pay 30% tax to govt. Is this fair? $100 product if we buy means we have to pay $30 tax to govt total $130. How can a common person afford this right. So people like Bitcoin transaction and they are waiting to make this Bitcoin legal in every country.
129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why people buy etc ? on: September 11, 2017, 05:46:25 PM
Personally I bought because they have to open a fund for it.
In addition, I think that when ETH goes to POS, I think that the price of the ETC will increase

Yes i think you answer is correct.im also think when eth chain move to pos and more and more miners will engage with etc,where that eth original code and when eth move to pos etc will attract miners then price will skyrocket.
For me, I doubt about future Ethereum Classic can attractives miner going to it and mining like Ethereum, because if we do not have Ethereum for mining, Zcash or other altcoin GPU mining still good choice for us. Kiss
Already people are started to Mine ETC in my country. Before they all mined ETH but now ETH mining become very difficult and taking too many days to mine one ETH, so people shifted ETC. They can mine a couple of ETC per month, and the price is also impressive it is profitable to compare Zcash and other altcoins.
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero or LTC on: September 11, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
If i have to choose LTC or Monero i will make a decisions in 2 situasions:
- Short term: i will choose monero , why? Cause the price of monero doesn't change so much from top to bottom in the chart. So you will earn micro earning by surfing price daily.
- Long term: i will choose LTC, why? The system of LTC is much better than Monero , their rank is 5 when monero is only 8, and the market cap of ltc already reachs to 3.5 billions dollar when monero only at 1.7 millions.
Today and right now I will choose Litecoin. This is having more potential, and the exchange rate is also very high. The last couple of weeks the price is varying very high margin to compare Monero. And rank wise also yes it is in top position to compare Monero and other altcoins. I think it will reach $100+ before entering the new year.
131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Getting started with sports betting! on: September 11, 2017, 05:34:22 PM
Hey, guys!
I would advise Marathonbet live for a starter. There're sports betting, binary options, poker and other stuff with multiple rated bookmakers within touch. Play a little bit here and there to get an understanding of what fits your temperament.  Smiley
It's my first time to hear this site and it looks great, the design is very simple, is there any country restrictions on this site?
I might try this one because the I see the betting odds are very competitive, how long this site is operating based on your knowledge? I am excited to bet on NBA games, I hope they cater local sports too.

I think it's worth a try from my end too and I don't think it's restricted even if it is just use a vpn or RDP and hide your identity from the jurisdiction you find yourself and then go ahead and place some bets.

I also went through this site it looks good, and UI looks like same as Sportsbet.io. And all events are listed in their betting list. We can find all present and future games odds list. One thing I am not found it we can do live betting on this site? And how safe this site I don't know because first time I heard this site name.
132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: September 11, 2017, 05:26:33 PM
Pakistan take on the World-XI in the first match of the Independence Cup tomorrow. Given that Pakistan were languishing at the bottom of the ODI tables not a long time ago, this shouldn't have been difficult to predict. But after the Champions' Trophy victory, nobody will write off Pakistan.
This could be interesting match b/w the Pak vs World XI. But world team consists of maximum south Africa players and few players from all the teams. And why no single Indian player is not playing in this world XI? is this series or only one game? Yea after winning CT Pak became a strong team in ODI let's see who will win.
133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is China manipulating the price of Bitcoin and other altcoins? on: September 10, 2017, 02:45:54 PM
Yes. It's very strange that all this FUD is being spread without any sources from the chinese gov't. Unless the announcement is coming out monday and this is just a leak from inside the gov't.
Yes there is no official news from Chinese govt but this news spreading all over the world and all new comers are getting panic and selling their bitcoins, so it will be affecting the Bitcoin price. Don't know when this issue will be solved and again the price will recover.
134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will rise up or fall down? on: September 10, 2017, 02:42:21 PM
Bitcoin's price depends on the supply and demand. Its' price is going down because of other bitcoiners that are selling their bitcoins either when the price reaches a high exchange or they are just afraid of it may suddenly go really low. But soon enough, it's price will go high again because of the ones that will buy bitcoin, and it will really not fall down for real.
I am totally agree with you mate, the current bitcoin price falls just because many Bitcoiner are doing Panic Sell due to the issue of bitcoin bans in China and I also never doubt that bitcoin prices will soon rise again
I think China did not ban Bitcoin they banned ICO's. But it will not affect on bitcoins it will affect on other altcoins. Why now Bitcoin is going down I seriously don't the reason, one thing I can say that it will again gain back within few days. May be what you said it's right because panic sellers the Bitcoin price is going down.
135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker v Other casino games online on: September 10, 2017, 02:36:59 PM
in real market bitcoiner gambler like this dice site
you can see bistler, primedice yolodice with dice game very high player, and volume transaction in there

I think it in the past.
Today players like very interesting game like slots, poker, casino.
Dice game not actually nowadays.
This is only my opinion.

After playing the long game, every game will be boring so that people will play all types of games. But nowadays people are showing interest in skill games like poker and other skill casino games I agree. But poker is a special game for every gambler, and not everyone can play this game. Only the experts in this game can make a profit that is why this game is separate to compare other casino games.
136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why I suddenly decided to leave gambling alone. on: September 10, 2017, 02:32:38 PM
Everyone had good and bad moments and gambling, but mostly bad moments are more often than good ones. Gambling is fun, but the odds of winning is too low. In gambling winning is a goal that's why it's often for gamblers to lose. Gambling makes good money but it's risky. There's a chance to multiply your money multiple times, but same goes with losing.
You can multiply your money in just a few seconds, but in few seconds only you will lose everything. We do not play gambling with the intention of making money. You can just play your game to win your bet but don't chase your loss. It will give you more loss. When people lose more money in a row that time, people will take sudden decision to stop gambling.
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH target 1000$ in ending of this year on: September 08, 2017, 02:32:28 PM
We are rapidly running out of 2017 and I do not think the remaining 3+ months will be enough time for Ethereum to reach the lofty $1,000 mark. If you had said $500, I would have perhaps believed it more, but as others have posted right now Ethereum is struggling to stay in the $300 range, much less push back and grow past the $400 area which would be a first step needed to launch any sustained push higher.

With the current ICO crackdown and the uncertainty going forward with the eventual switch to PoS, I do not see ETH going to $1,000 anytime soon. Maybe this outlook will change as we get into 2018, but for now there is just too much uncertainty in the market to fuel the growth needed for such an aggressive high. I think a lot of people buying in this late in the game are setting themselves up for a big disappointment thinking ETH can just forever keep going up without pausing and even losing some ground. Myself, I think we have a better change of seeing ETH hit under $200 again before we see it touch $1,000.

The last line what you said may be it is right. Because the Bitcoin price is also increased based on this method. Before hitting one big margin first, it went down, and suddenly it came up. So, in the same way, ETH is also growing. Let's see where ETH price will go and stop at this year end. I also doubt that this will hit this target or not because this market is unpredictable.
138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Long term updates NEO (antshares) Chinese community latest information on: September 08, 2017, 02:23:12 PM
thanks for the response ,i didnt know this but that does make sense. Ive already bought in at $8-10 so im still happy but of course we want NEO to reach $100 one day but obviously its a long term hold , a marathon not a sprint... So if NEO does reach more of the main  exchanges then just bittrex would it help the price go up?? I know a bonus/ deal would of course make the price go down, hopefully that goes away soon lol... i was liking the price around $50... needs to break through that $40 level again for good , but NEO is still a huge amazing project imo
Today it's again coming down how fast it went up at the same speed it is coming down. Present price in coinmarketcap is $23.67. Today over night it still goes down and gets a chance to buy this coin. Don't miss the opportunity to purchase this coin for short time trade. Becasue according to me again it will come up within few days.
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which altcoins do you have mainly? on: September 08, 2017, 02:17:34 PM
Bitcoin and Ethereum, and i buy a little % with waves. will save it untill i don't know when because it is only a little of my money. i hope can be like ethereum in future
People are putting many hopes on waves, but this coin is not taking charge. May be slowly it will come. But this is an excellent coin for long time investors. Now you invest means in future it will give you unexpected profit. Apart from this ETH is bit expensive, LTC and ETC you try.
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Effects of ICO ban in China on: September 08, 2017, 02:12:57 PM
I also want to buy NEO, I think It has a good potential in the future when the ban is removed.

Hello, I'm not an expert in the coin market but I read about it being Chinese Ethereum and that Encouraged me to invest in it. Although it's not doing well these days you can give it a try. Please read about what the experts are saying about it before you invest.

Yes before investing in any coin take some suggestions from experts. but I too heard that NEO is like ETH coin for Chinese. I think after seeing the huge pump in NEO price you felt like to buy this coin right. Who all bought this coin a few days back when it was $20 now they made $10 profit for each coin. now the price is coming down may be you will get a chance to buy this or low price.
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