where the mining pool ?

It seems like the dev still needs a lot of money to develop the project at least based on the super computer and it will cost a lot. I waiting for the dev's blog. I hope there is a transparency to be responsibilities for all of the money.

Very good project. When will it arrive bittrex or polo .

Any exchanges except https://liqui.io/#/exchange/GNT_BTC?

Hope you realize what this means of the expectations of this project.

Almost 800k ETH in ICO, people panic bought all the ICO tokens within 1 hour, one of the most successful ICO in 2016. Fantastic crowdfunding.

When Golem Network will launch?

It will last the time period that is identical to ethereum lifespan. Should money migrate from the forked chain to ETC chain, this will cause deterioration of the infrastructure built around ethereum, leading to a subsequent collapse of apptokens, including golem.

Yes. The communication of  team and investors must not only be limited to slack.  They should be considering the investors who are more used to reading updates here in the forum as they were here since the project started.

I hate slack because they will see our email addresses and i think they should respect privacy as we did when t hey first get in here in the forum.

IOU? Liqui is famous for IOU trading actually, we don't see it on bittrex, so is the token tradable now? Or still only IOU phase?

They are working hard. We have monthly updates now, blog, twittr, slack. Golem is not pump-project full of attention, buzz and cheap-PR coming from devs, it's more like very serious project with very small buzz because they want Golem to have vallue by itself, by realisation of project not by pure speculation. But anyway we see more information soon, Golme Brass is closer each day. They hired new coders look at last update).

-redundant computation - isn't it just pure waste of energy to compute the same thing few times?
Also:
- how many times the computation should be performed?
- who will be paid in this scenario: all providers equally, first/last provider, other...?
- after comparison is performed, how is the correct result determined, ie. which result is assumed correct?

-comparing color of few random pixels in rendered picture - If a small part is OK, then you're going to assume that the whole image is correct? come one, it's a joke right ? What will stop malicious users from sending garbage data after that first sample is assumed to be correct?

-analysis of output logs - what is this one actually, what logs are you going to analyze?

Hi, read that BOINC is your inspriations. What different between BOINC? Why Golem will be better?

Some describe the elastic computer as a calculator, a simple computer. It is sad that project does not show any relevance and project in the latest time. The issue of donation during an ICO can be worrying when the idea and people behind it is whack, No company behind and they don't seem to care if any support is given or form of transparency is revealed. I just hope Golem will learn previous mistakes and endeavor to get the best out of the project

I really am getting sick of these so-called "white papers" that don't describe any of the technical details of how the system actually solves its stated problem. If Bitcoin had of been written this way it would have been ignored by just about everyone but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you've thought this through.

So my question is: how do you ensure the results from the outsourced computations will be correct? This is not explained any where in the paper and its the most important part of this idea. I mean: its not like people haven't had the idea to do this before. I myself have and researchers have used these clusters before for years for lengthy problems.

I know you mentioned Filecoin in your paper but the reason why we can so easily do decentralized cloud storage compared to decentralized computation is because the trust problem of proving that a node is still storing content (and proving that retrieved content is what we originally stored) is all easily solved by basic cryptography. But with outsourced computation there are no simple ways to validate the results are correct without wasting as many cycles or more than the original computation.

Am I to assume that this network is going to be based on a reputation system? I suppose you could also outsource the same computations to multiple nodes and choose the majority consensus but I'm not sure if the economics will work in your favor since having to pay to repeat a computation multiple times may work out to be more costly than just firing up an Amazon cluster.

You also can't rely on a pseudo-anonymous reputation system instead since this could poison the work for an entire computation and there would be no easy way to detect it (outsourcing random problems won't be enough since someone giving out faulty work can just selectively alter random results which is a similar problem that online market places face.)

How do you solve these problems? Or do you envision a reputation system will be enough?

Edit: This didn't occur to me before but if you were to focus exclusively on distributed computations for graphics rendering it would be easy to see which chunks of information weren't rendered correctly so you could outsource it to another node. But the problems I listed still apply to general purpose computation.

shortly speaking - they would speak with exchanges about listining only after 6 month, when devs gnt will be unlocked.

kindly present a video and refer to it on the thread to show the concept of the project. it is presented to be promising I need to know more.

it is not very polite to use ugly words, he can tell the same in other words but... I think he is right. devs just lie to investors and made unpleasant things. next time if i see julian in a dev list i will never invest my money to such project, even if it will have a really great idea. Only because of Julian. He descredited himself, good by good name.

it depends on Julian greed. but looks like yes. he will connect with exchanges ONLy in 6 month, when his GNT will be unlock. it is very unpleasant attitude to people, who invested in golem. And dont forget - there at slack moderators banned people, who told not very good but truthful words about golem and julian. For example i was kicked from slack two days ago and my message was deleted, when i told about this situation. You know, there will be some phases of golemproject. so now we have the first one - "Greedy Golem." Hope that devs can show the opposite attitude to us and will promote gnt exchange listining. Maybe we are wrong, Julian? (sarcasm).

Kinda weird when bittrex want to add it but got no words from the dev.