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121  Economy / Services / Re: GPUMAX | The Bitcoin Mining Marketplace on: February 01, 2012, 05:40:53 AM
Never mind.. I'm even dumber than I like to admit to..  At some point, I must have had communications problems with GPUMAX.  My miner switched to the backup pool, and I didn't even notice..

Enigma
122  Economy / Services / Re: GPUMAX | The Bitcoin Mining Marketplace on: February 01, 2012, 05:38:29 AM
Yep, even tried logging out and logging back in.. I assumed it was a refresh problem at first, also.. It's not..
123  Economy / Services / Re: GPUMAX | The Bitcoin Mining Marketplace on: February 01, 2012, 05:12:52 AM
Currently throwing you a bit of hash power.. But where's it going??

The count of "OFFLINE" and "LEASED" shares hasn't changed in hours, yet I've been hashing (2606 Shares Accepted since I last saw the numbers on the website change).

Is your system having difficulties?  Is all this hashing going to waste?

Enigma
124  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [488 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: January 31, 2012, 05:06:21 AM
Yeah, it seems there's an upstream router down near 69.30.209.1 ... seems to be going in and out.  I think maybe a card on a router is going bad.  I submitted a support ticket, but I'm not sure it's part of my datacenters maintenance domain.

Completely agree - I believe you are right that it's 69.30.209.1

Enigma
125  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [488 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: January 31, 2012, 05:05:08 AM
Down again..

For reference, here's a trace route from me when the server is reachable
------------------------------------------------------------
1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  xx-xxx-xx-xxx.uvs.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [xx.xxx.xx.xxx]
  3    24 ms    23 ms    22 ms  xx-xxx-xxx-x.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [xx.xxx.xxx.x]
  4    26 ms    25 ms    26 ms  75.26.64.xxx
  5    26 ms    25 ms    24 ms  75.26.64.xx
  6    24 ms    24 ms    24 ms  12.83.32.133
  7    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  cgcil03jt.ip.att.net [12.122.84.53]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out. (I believe this is 192.205.37.178)
  9    34 ms    32 ms    32 ms  te0-5-0-7.ccr22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.165]
 10    44 ms    44 ms    44 ms  te0-0-0-3.ccr22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.101]
 11    45 ms    45 ms    44 ms  te0-1-0-0.mpd22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.154]
 12    45 ms    44 ms    44 ms  everest.demarc.cogentco.com [38.104.86.2]
 13    46 ms    45 ms    44 ms  69.30.209.1
 14    46 ms    47 ms    44 ms  208.110.68.114

Another Failed Trace Route to US3:
------------------------------------------------------------

traceroute to us3.eclipsemc.com (208.110.68.116), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)  1.054 ms  0.676 ms  0.935 ms
 2  XX-XXX-XX-XXX.uvs.livnmi.sbcglobal.net (XX.XXX.XX.XXX)  2.250 ms  1.637 ms  1.947 ms
 3  XX-XXX-XXX-X.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net (XX.XXX.XXX.X)  23.880 ms  23.647 ms  23.929 ms
 4  75.26.64.XXX (75.26.64.XXX)  25.876 ms  26.754 ms *
 5  75.26.64.XX (75.26.64.XX)  26.895 ms  25.437 ms  24.977 ms
 6  12.83.32.133 (12.83.32.133)  24.975 ms  24.616 ms  24.970 ms
 7  cgcil03jt.ip.att.net (12.122.84.53)  31.958 ms  31.626 ms  31.978 ms
 8  192.205.37.178 (192.205.37.178)  32.944 ms 192.205.37.174 (192.205.37.174)  32.509 ms 192.205.37.178 (192.205.37.178)  32.688 ms
 9  te0-0-0-1.ccr22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.97)  32.579 ms te0-3-0-0.ccr22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.1)  32.681 ms te0-0-0-1.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.1)  33.658 ms
10  te0-5-0-1.mpd22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.177)  32.559 ms te0-1-0-0.mpd22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.177)  32.684 ms te0-0-0-3.ccr22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.101)  45.642 ms
11  te0-2-0-0.mpd22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.158)  45.632 ms  48.633 ms te0-4-0-5.mpd22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.45.157)  45.966 ms
12  everest.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.86.2)  44.694 ms  45.689 ms  45.966 ms
13  * * *
14  * * *
15  * 208.110.68.116 (208.110.68.116)  47.308 ms *
[root@miner23 ~]#
126  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [488 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: January 31, 2012, 04:57:36 AM
Thought you could use an update... currently down / no connection..

I could ping any site on the internet during this time - except for:
us.eclipsemc.com
us2.eclipsemc.com
us3.eclipsemc.com
www.eclipsemc.com

Miner:
--------------------------------------------------
[30/01/2012 23:46:03] Result: aa848d59 accepted
[30/01/2012 23:46:12] Result: b704819c rejected
[30/01/2012 23:46:23] Disconnected from server
[30/01/2012 23:46:27] Warning: work queue empty, miner is idle
[30/01/2012 23:46:28] Result: fda366a9 rejected
[30/01/2012 23:46:31] Result: 5bc08ece accepted
[30/01/2012 23:46:36] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:46:47] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:47:02] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:47:17] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:47:32] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:47:47] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:48:02] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:48:12] Connected to server
[30/01/2012 23:48:40] Disconnected from server
[30/01/2012 23:48:46] Warning: work queue empty, miner is idle
[30/01/2012 23:48:51] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:49:06] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:49:24] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:49:36] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:49:51] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:50:06] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:50:19] Connected to server
[30/01/2012 23:50:24] Disconnected from server
[30/01/2012 23:50:30] Warning: work queue empty, miner is idle
[30/01/2012 23:50:35] Result: ea144189 rejected
[30/01/2012 23:50:43] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:50:50] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:51:05] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:51:20] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:51:35] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:51:50] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:52:05] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:52:20] Failed to connect, retrying...
[30/01/2012 23:52:35] Failed to connect, retrying...

Trace Route: (Looks Like it falls apart once I get on cogentco's network)
--------------------------------------------------
Tracing route to us.eclipsemc.com [208.110.68.114]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  xx-xxx-xx-xxx.uvs.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [xx.xxx.xx.xxx]
  3    24 ms    23 ms    22 ms  xx-xxx-xxx-x.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [xx.xxx.xxx.x]
  4    26 ms    25 ms    26 ms  75.26.64.xxx
  5    26 ms    25 ms    24 ms  75.26.64.xx
  6    24 ms    24 ms    24 ms  12.83.32.133
  7    33 ms    32 ms    34 ms  cgcil03jt.ip.att.net [12.122.84.53]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9    33 ms    32 ms    32 ms  te0-5-0-7.ccr22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.165]
 10    45 ms    44 ms    44 ms  te0-0-0-3.ccr22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.101]
 11    46 ms    44 ms    44 ms  te0-1-0-0.mpd22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.154]
 12     *        *       46 ms  everest.demarc.cogentco.com [38.104.86.2]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17    45 ms     *        *     208.110.68.114
 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 19     *       45 ms     *     208.110.68.114
 20    45 ms     *        *     208.110.68.114
 21    46 ms     *        *     208.110.68.114
 22     *        *       46 ms  208.110.68.114

Hope the tracert helps.
127  Economy / Goods / Re: WTS OMEGA PLANET OCEAN (SEAMASTER) BLACK 45mm on: January 24, 2012, 01:45:34 AM
That's a pretty good deal.. IF.. it's a real swiss ETA.  Any chance of getting a photo of the actual movement?
128  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [488 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: January 19, 2012, 06:55:30 PM
I just switched to 9009.. let you know if it changes anything.
129  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 2x6870($300) VS 1x6970($300) on: January 19, 2012, 06:52:08 PM
Just ran GPU-Z.. 1440 shaders.. It's a 5850 like I thought.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/47rdp/
130  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 2x6870($300) VS 1x6970($300) on: January 19, 2012, 06:44:14 PM
Hmm.. You might be right, actually.. I remote-desktop into that machine.. maybe it got a 5870 stuck in it rather than the 5850 that I thought was in it..

Have to check when I'm over at the facility where that box lives later this afternoon..
131  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 2x6870($300) VS 1x6970($300) on: January 19, 2012, 06:12:59 PM
930 core.  under 70C.
430Mh/s at 930 core on a 58*50*?
That'd be 335Mh/s stock. On a 5850.
Or 436Mh/s on a stock 5870.
So... why is everyone else reporting numbers *way* below that?


Not sure why everyone else is so low - or why I'm so high.... Here's a screen-shot showing the Device Hardware ID's (5850), MSI Afterburner Settings, and Mining Results.

(EDIT)Hmm.. In taking that screen-shot, I see I'm running a bit warm today.. 74C.. Have to check on my fan.  Also, screenshot shows 427.xx Mhash/sec which was primarily due to me moving images around on the screen - my rate dropped by a few Mhash while I was doing that and taking the capture.  It's usually about 431.xx if I leave the machine alone.

132  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [488 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: January 19, 2012, 05:58:02 PM
Just FYI - EMC seems to be having connectivity problems.  I've had three instances of > 2 minutes without being able to connect..  My connection is working during those times.

Enigma


[19/01/2012 12:40:00] Result: 10e98463 accepted
[19/01/2012 12:40:10] Result: fbc7511f rejected
[19/01/2012 12:40:18] Disconnected from server
[19/01/2012 12:40:23] Result: 4bcd534a rejected
[19/01/2012 12:40:24] Warning: work queue empty, miner is idle
[19/01/2012 12:40:28] Result: 7a2500db rejected
[19/01/2012 12:40:33] Failed to connect, retrying...
[19/01/2012 12:40:44] Failed to connect, retrying...
[19/01/2012 12:40:59] Failed to connect, retrying...
[19/01/2012 12:41:14] Failed to connect, retrying...
[19/01/2012 12:41:29] Failed to connect, retrying...
[19/01/2012 12:41:44] Failed to connect, retrying...
[19/01/2012 12:41:54] Connected to server
[19/01/2012 12:42:02] Result: 7a25148d accepted
133  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 2x6870($300) VS 1x6970($300) on: January 19, 2012, 04:57:21 PM
930 core.  under 70C.
134  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [488 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: January 19, 2012, 08:39:57 AM
I see what you mean - I was 'lucky' during that block.  8 shares is more than I 'should' have found.

Thanks for explaining.

Enigma
135  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [488 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: January 19, 2012, 08:03:09 AM
I'm still trying to wrap my head around DG scoring...  I'm doing very well at EMC, so I'm definitely not complaining.. Just trying to understand.

That really short block, as a perfect example..
uzgen   162821
(379)    19:31:23
2012-01-18   00:01:41   2777   99.78%   44/120    8   0.04907340
(-193.52%)    0.00024660
0.27% avg

Total shares = 2777
My shares = 8
Proportional = (8/2777)*50 = 0.14404033 BTC
My DG Payout = 0.04907340 BTC

Why does DG yield such a poor payout in this instance?  1/3 what pure proportional would have paid..

Additionally, it seems like the %prop stat may be .. wrong.. or at least misleading..  -193% of anything would be a subzero number..
-65.93% would seem more appropriate.. 65.93% less than what pure proportional would have been..
(.14404033 - .04907340) / .14404033 = 65.93

Enigma
136  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 2x6870($300) VS 1x6970($300) on: January 19, 2012, 07:45:00 AM
290MH on a 5870?  Seriously?  I get over 430 from 5850s.
137  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: So where are the cheapest 58xx series GPU's that youve found (in stock)? on: January 17, 2012, 07:26:27 AM
used on ebay, used in the marketplace here on bitcointalk.org

new/refurb at random places when they have sales
138  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2) on: January 16, 2012, 08:03:41 AM

Sounds expensive to me, its only .0202 per watt here.

You pay $20.20 per kilowatt-hour?  Seems a bit unprofitable to mine bitcoins...
139  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [488 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: January 15, 2012, 10:31:12 AM
I just recently started mining a bit at your pool, and I do have one question..

I understand the double geometric scoring system, and I love the idea of it...

I am curious, though, why my prop-diff is quite often negative.  I'm not starting and stopping the rig, so I'm hashing continuously.  Shouldn't I be at 0 or higher?  What would cause me to get paid less than my share (proportional) if I'm not 'hopping' or taking breaks in mining?

Enigma
If you've started recently what you're seeing is probably your score building up. Your score starts at 0 and as you continue mining it increases until it reaches an equilibrium (which changes if the pool's total hashrate changes). So at first you'll receive less than proportional, in equilibrium it will be roughly the same, and if you quit at any time your score will gradually decrease to 0 and you will keep receiving rewards for some time.

I have a feeling that he's referring to the wildly varying payout compared to the proportional calculation that a number of us have been experiencing over these past 60 or so blocks.  The big up-swings in pool hash rate have caused some of us consistent miners to receive significantly smaller payouts when compared to proportional calculations for those blocks where the hash rate is unusually high.  Once the hash rate settles back down, the payout very slowly recovers.

I, for example, am still down compared to proportional for about the past 60 blocks.  I have a highly consistent hash rate and near 100% up- time, but the big swings in pool hash rate have not been kind to my payout.

That seems to be exactly what I'm talking about - although I can't be sure since I don't know the exact calculation/formula.  Some blocks I'm ahead of the game, some behind - it's very inconsistent.  Overall, I'm up compared to proportional - I'm just trying to understand why I often times end up in the red for a block or two.  This definitely isn't me complaining - EMC seems like a great pool - I just want to be able to understand where the numbers come from.

Enigma
140  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [488 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: January 15, 2012, 01:05:08 AM
I just recently started mining a bit at your pool, and I do have one question..

I understand the double geometric scoring system, and I love the idea of it...

I am curious, though, why my prop-diff is quite often negative.  I'm not starting and stopping the rig, so I'm hashing continuously.  Shouldn't I be at 0 or higher?  What would cause me to get paid less than my share (proportional) if I'm not 'hopping' or taking breaks in mining?

Enigma
Well according to Meni who designed DGM there should be no loss of BTC if you do switch your miner on and off ... or hop.
Just no gain either.

Agreed, as long as I'm mining continuously (which I am), my understanding is that the worst case should be no difference from proportional.  Gains can be had if OTHER people stop mining during a block, letting their share dwindle.  That's why I don't understand the negative relationship to proportional in my case.
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