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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 09:25:58 PM
The incompetence argument is no better. So you're going to trust a developer that doesn't even test his code and fucks up a launch with your anonymity. Good plan!

I don't know if you have ever developed any piece of software, but let me tell you from personal experience: I have seen a lot worse than this, and I don't mean in some hobbyist open source project, but in real enterprise IT departments..
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 10, 2015, 09:17:31 PM
Please don't take my arguments as an attack. We are all free to express our opinion and I'm just using that right.
I will not change my opinion about the unfair launch of darkcoin but as you are all dazzled by your investment in that coin, it's a lose of time to continue to express my opinion here.
Then, i'm leaving and I wish good luck to all darkcoin investors. Good bye!

No, you're right to question it. These fanboys will always attack those asking any questions.

In their mind, they truly believe that there is nothing wrong with a 2+ million instamine in the first 2 days of launch. That's cause they're a bunch of retards! Fuck darkcoin, you people are some of the worst scammers in this forum

I think the bigger issue is the drastic reward schedule change which favours devs and possibly some insiders.  It was available to be mined but few people could.

Sorry to quote the haters, but I just felt like adding my two cents: I think the instamine conspiracy theory is silly. You know how the old saying goes: Never attribute to conspiracy what can be easily explained by incompetence.

We've all seen how Evan handles releases (what was it, RC3, where the entire network forked into oblivion), so why do you think that the very first one was some sinister plot? Don't get me wrong, I think he's a big asset to this project, just more on the strategical than on the tactical level. That's why I'm glad it's not a one-man show anymore (releases have gotten smoother over time, too).
 
So to the trolls: Yes, not everything is ponies & unicorns in DRK, but when you take all factors into consideration (and step down the conspiracy theories a bit), it seems to me a lot more solid than most other crypto projects
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 09, 2015, 10:48:21 PM
lol, comparing the name to washing deterigent is as stupid as comparing Apple to the fruit. It's the product(s) and service(s) underneath the brand that actually matter.

Well, for English native speakers, "apple" the fruit and "Apple" the company might sound the same, but the washing detergent is called "Dash" globally. Also notice the capitalization: Dash the washing detergent and Dash the currency vs. apple the fruit and Apple the company

Apple is called Apple globally, what's your argument?

My point is:

- Apple is a global brand owned by Apple Inc. apple is an English noun for a certain type of fruit.
- Dash is a global brand owned by Procter & Gamble.

When Darkcoin wants to be the global brand named "Dash", there will be be at least some confusion.

Also, the point of my post was to make a different suggestion, namely D-Cash. It makes for nicer wordplay (D-Day!) and is very hard to mis-interpret

It is hard to make the claim that the general public will in any way confuse a laundry detergent for a cryptocurrency.  Also, there are numerous other uses of the mark DASH which haven't been contested by P&G.  

We consulted with attorneys to ensure that we are able to rebrand this crypto to DASH without issue.  We've taken the initial steps towards a rebrand, but there is still much more to do.

I should bring up a situation that I came across which highlights the need for a rebrand.  I was at recently at a dinner with the CEO of Expresscoin (whom added Darkcoin months ago as per my suggestion).  He directly informed me that he'd been getting pressure from his investors to drop Darkcoin as they were worried about the legal scrutiny it could bring Expresscoin.  I asked him to hold off for a bit before doing anything as there would be some announcements made, to which he agreed.  So as you can see, Darkcoins problems are a lot like racism.  You show up for endless interviews and everyone seems nice but you can't understand why you never get hired.  Evan has done a fantastic job of pushing out features which are important to users and will clearly lead to consumer adoption.  The problem is that this is meaningless if there is little to no adoption on the merchant side.  A rebrand helps balance this issue.

With a rebrand we can reach out to industries that previously wouldn't consider using Darkcoin due to the fact that Dark is often associated with something sinister.  A good example of this is the medicinal marijuana industry.  They have massive problems because MMJ is illegal on a federal level but not on the state level.  As a result, banks are completely unwilling to work with them.  This industry is desperate for a solution and using crypto / DASH should be an easy sell, creating a HUGE opportunity for us.  However, consider this: As a dispensary whom already has considerable legal scrutiny, would you be willing to take a risk and start doing business using a cryptocurrency named Darkcoin?  This shows how important the brand is, and how we really need to consider what is on the horizon and where we want to go from here.  



Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a rebranding. I just wonder if we couldn't come up with something better than Dash. But maybe that's only because I walk by a sales rack full of Dash every time I go to the supermarket :-)
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 09, 2015, 09:55:01 PM
lol, comparing the name to washing deterigent is as stupid as comparing Apple to the fruit. It's the product(s) and service(s) underneath the brand that actually matter.

Well, for English native speakers, "apple" the fruit and "Apple" the company might sound the same, but the washing detergent is called "Dash" globally. Also notice the capitalization: Dash the washing detergent and Dash the currency vs. apple the fruit and Apple the company

Apple is called Apple globally, what's your argument?

My point is:

- Apple is a global brand owned by Apple Inc. apple is an English noun for a certain type of fruit.
- Dash is a global brand owned by Procter & Gamble.

When Darkcoin wants to be the global brand named "Dash", there will be be at least some confusion.

Also, the point of my post was to make a different suggestion, namely D-Cash. It makes for nicer wordplay (D-Day!) and is very hard to mis-interpret
125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 09, 2015, 09:46:37 PM
lol, comparing the name to washing deterigent is as stupid as comparing Apple to the fruit. It's the product(s) and service(s) underneath the brand that actually matter.

Well, for English native speakers, "apple" the fruit and "Apple" the company might sound the same, but the washing detergent is called "Dash" globally. Also notice the capitalization: Dash the washing detergent and Dash the currency vs. apple the fruit and Apple the company

 No its not ! I speak a few languages and none, even in English, have I ever heard that. Like "let me Google that " instead of "let me go on a search engine", never with Dash.

What I meant was not that Dash is a synonym for washing powder, it is an established brand name. When you ask somebody if they know a product named Dash, they will think of the washing powder. But maybe that is just a European perspective, I just found out that according to wikipedia, it is only sold there:

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Dash, laundry detergent, last made in 1992 in the US, it's still present in the European market, it's one of Italy's leading brands of laundry detergents

BTW: the brand belongs to Procter & Gamble, definitely not someone I would want to get in a fight with
126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 09, 2015, 09:38:53 PM
lol, comparing the name to washing deterigent is as stupid as comparing Apple to the fruit. It's the product(s) and service(s) underneath the brand that actually matter.

Well, for English native speakers, "apple" the fruit and "Apple" the company might sound the same, but the washing detergent is called "Dash" globally. Also notice the capitalization: Dash the washing detergent and Dash the currency vs. apple the fruit and Apple the company
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 09, 2015, 09:30:59 PM
I agree that the Darkcoin name is not mainstream-compatible, but Dash really seems kind of eighties. Plus, it lends itself to all kinds of stupid wordplay (a dash of lemon, anyone?), and then there is this washing powder that was already mentioned..

So how's about D-Cash (with DC as a symbol)? It has the exact same meaning, but is less cryptic. Plus, as an added bonus, oldschoolers can still read the "D" as "Dark" :-)
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