Thanks Theymos (and Panda again  ). I'll send that through shortly. |
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Theymos has agreed to act as escrow for this bet for a fee of 2BTC. RolyTonyBrownTown and I will each send 101BTC to an address provided by theymos.
Coolz. (thanks Panda) |
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Is the address public for Matthews escrow side of the bet? I would like to see if he really has the coins before I make a bet. Due diligence and all...
Goat, if you're seriously worried about this, may I suggest you take up the following offer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101751.msg1121809#msg1121809You'll have nothing to lose by doing this. |
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Hi  Confirmed. Just to clarify, we're keeping this simple, so if it's decided that Matt has won his bet, then I win this one. If it's decided that Matt loses his bet, I lose this one. Dust, with regards to Escrow, can I recommend Graet? He's a well established member of the community, has plenty to lose (pools etc), and he previously provided Escrow for when I was selling some BFL singles a month or two back. He was very professional, and he's a nice dude. Shoot him a PM if you like and have a chat, see what you think. |
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And sure, we can do the 5BTC if you like. If you want to get funky with Escrow I'm OK with that, but I'm happy to just trust you to pay up if you're happy to do the same to me. You can quote this, and it'll be in this thread for good.
I'll take your word for it, though if you fail to pay up, I won't hold it against you either. So, acknowledged/witnessed. Not a prob, I'll happily pay up if necessary (well, maybe not "happily", but yeah)  |
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OK, well firstly, yes I'm goading certain people, but mostly just the annoying, overly vocal dicks that have been spouting on and on and on this whole time.
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Now, what else you got? Oh that's right, nothing, because you didn't read the thread properly before ranting away. Great job.
Actually, I have been following this thread since the very beginning. That's why I pointed out that, by "goading" annoying, overly vocal dicks as much as the way that you have, you have become an annoying, overly vocal dick yourself. Well you know what? I totally can't argue with that You're right, and it's not something I'm particularly happy with as this is really the first time I've delved into "trolling", ever. I'm generally a practitioner of "good forum etiquette", at least on every other forum I'm a member of. This place is just out of control, and even the trolls have trolls. When all this pirate thing has blown over I'll most likely disappear into the sunset and be done with this place to be honest. Anyway, I'm rambling. But tl;dr, yeah you're right. EDIT: And sure, we can do the 5BTC if you like. If you want to get funky with Escrow I'm OK with that, but I'm happy to just trust you to pay up if you're happy to do the same to me. You can quote this, and it'll be in this thread for good. I'm sure plenty of people will be after me to pay up should I lose (and despite my comments about leaving the forum above, I won't before settling up. But happy to use Escrow if you prefer). |
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Two things. First, it seems like some fresh bullshit that RoloTonyBrownTown is goading people on to increase their bets, and thus (very likely) hurt Matthew A LOT, while having almost no skin in the game himself. People who have been bitching against pirate at least have a legitimate concern about a lot of people being scammed and having their money stolen. RoloTonyBrownTown has just been bitching at and insulting people for no real reason other than being butthurt about something or other. I wish he would put his Bitcoin where his mouth is, too, and since his mouth has been rather large on this thread, I hope he puts up a lot of Bitcoin.
And second, raise me up to 20 BTC, too please.
OK, well firstly, yes I'm goading certain people, but mostly just the annoying, overly vocal dicks that have been spouting on and on and on this whole time. Now is the time for them to be able to actually prove they believe what they have been saying. Some have, good for them! Some haven't, those I will continue to goad. As for hurting Matthew, this is exactly the point of this thread, so I doubt he'll be too upset. As for having skin the game, I have money invested with Pirate, so there's my skin. I also offered dust a 100BTC bet similar to Matt's, if you care to read up a few posts Now, what else you got? Oh that's right, nothing, because you didn't read the thread properly before ranting away. Great job. |
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It is a shame that I'm not what you consider to be an estabilished member.
I'd go all-in.
I'm 100% sure pirate is a scammer.
And what you're doing now is a desperate act of denial.
It is a shame that I'm not what you consider to be an estabilished member.
I'd go all-in.
Again, I can proxy your bet free-of-charge. I'll proxy bets for 4% of your bet amount if you've already bet 250 BTC directly, or 6% otherwise. You'll need to send me the bet amount + fee in advance.
Come on the_thing, what's the hold up? |
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Still talking smack but too cowardly to put your money where your mouth is I see. Come on girly man, there's a free 250BTC waiting for you over in Matthew's thread. How can you possibly lose, right?
Until you actually show a little backbone, shut up with your nonsense.
We should make a companion thread to Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes... and title it RoloTonyBrownTown's List of Forum Trolls that Don't Own Any Bitcoins.The thread can list the most abusive and vocal trolls who have refused to bet any BTC against Matthew Wright. The trolls' currency is attention from strangers. Like flea-infested stray cats, they will keep coming around if you keep feeding them. I wish the forum would learn to stop replying to blowhards like Smoothy and others like him. To be fair, there's really only two left of the main bunch. That's Vladimir, who's already made some crap excuse so we can write him off as just all talk in the future. The other is hgmichna who conveniently disappears whenever the bet thread is brought up. It's clear he's not confident whatsoever about a default, despite banging on about it constantly. So yeah, hypocrite-tastic To their credit, the other major accusers have made bets, so good on them. |
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Sorry, I misread that.
Fair enough, no probs I came up with the 100:250 BTC ratio because that was in line with what the market was pricing passthrough bonds at.
Ok, well that has nothing to do with this thread. If you want to bet 1:1, that's fine, otherwise no thanks. |
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I would like to advise everyone in this thread to not bet with Matthew UNLESS YOU BOTH ESCROW
I made my bet without an escrow, so I might get scammed, but you shouldn't. DEMAND AN ESCROW OR DO NOT BET
 I'm not sure what that means but I will make the same bet with you (with escrow of course) to prove I'm not just trying to dodge the bet. This is on top of my bet with Matthew. It means, that if it's good enough for the forum admin to bet without Escrow, it probably ought to be good enough for you, Joe Random. That said, sure, I'll take your bet. Exact same terms at Matt's bet. 100BTC from each of us, winner gets the total 200BTC. I choose Matthew N. Wright as the escrow holder Matthew is staff of the Korean forum, not an admin. He is however a respected member and much more trustworthy than most. I will bet with you the same bet I made with Matthew, my 100BTC against your 250BTC. Obviously I will not have Matthew ecrow, as I would not want to put all my eggs in one basket. Right, well you can have another for that. Probably just as well as there's some reading comprehension issues here. I said the forum admin, which is Theymos (I bolded that as I know you like it). |
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I would like to advise everyone in this thread to not bet with Matthew UNLESS YOU BOTH ESCROW
I made my bet without an escrow, so I might get scammed, but you shouldn't. DEMAND AN ESCROW OR DO NOT BET
I'm not sure what that means but I will make the same bet with you (with escrow of course) to prove I'm not just trying to dodge the bet. This is on top of my bet with Matthew. It means, that if it's good enough for the forum admin to bet without Escrow, it probably ought to be good enough for you, Joe Random. That said, sure, I'll take your bet. Exact same terms at Matt's bet. 100BTC from each of us, winner gets the total 200BTC. I choose Matthew N. Wright as the escrow holder |
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Define "running"? I'm Editor-in-Chief of a magazine for starters. Is that the same thing as "Running a business"? You're starting to lean towards FUD, and that's what this thread was started to avoid. If you'd like to make a claim, I'll be happy to meet it with a wager or you can start asking questions instead of making claims altogether and the whole community will be better off for it! You list yourself as CEO and cofounder of a number of projects. I take your word for it. I wouldn't bet for or against it, but if nobody calls you out on that I'm assuming it's not bollocks. Do not worry. I am involved in some of those projects and I'll strangle him as needed to keep things sane where it matters. Meh, you're not willing to back up your big words. Who cares what you have to say. "Oooh, but I don't gamble!" It's not gambling if it's 100% sure thing, is it Vlad. |
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I would like to advise everyone in this thread to not bet with Matthew UNLESS YOU BOTH ESCROW
I made my bet without an escrow, so I might get scammed, but you shouldn't. DEMAND AN ESCROW OR DO NOT BET
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Up until Monday, he did whatever we wanted. If we wanted payments, he did payments. If we wanted withdrawals, he did withdrawals. He never pushed us in either direction. The stability bonus was never intended to be tied to interest payments and had no bearing. Whoever says pirate encouraged reinvesting is just plain lying and spreading fud. Now that he's unwinding, I'd expect the interest payments to change from the status quo, instead paying interest when he closes the account.
imsaguy spreading his typical foggy nonsense. Or can anybody here possibly make sense of that garbage? You are either one of pirate's helpers or one of his accounts. Time to shut up, don't you think? Still talking smack but too cowardly to put your money where your mouth is I see. Come on girly man, there's a free 250BTC waiting for you over in Matthew's thread. How can you possibly lose, right? Until you actually show a little backbone, shut up with your nonsense. |
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How about not playing the fool, and waiting for the payouts? He said a week or 2, it's been 2-3 days.
Where did he say that? What exactly did he say? Still talking smack but too cowardly to put your money where your mouth is I see. Come on big man, there's a free 250BTC waiting for you over in Matthew's thread. How can you possibly lose, right? Until you actually show a little backbone, shut up with your nonsense. |
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It is a shame that I'm not what you consider to be an estabilished member.
I'd go all-in.
Again, I can proxy your bet free-of-charge. Proxy? Like... taking my bitcoins now and giving it to Matt should he win? This is exactly the kind of behavior that got the whole community into trouble. Never give your bitcoins to anyone, except when you buy something or exchange your btcs to fiat.Damn. Get your shit together, guys. Oh, fancy that, a lame excuse to avoid putting his money where his mouth is. I'm shocked. Use Escrow if you're worried about that |
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but I must max-fire to prove my point.
Yes you must, good boy. Tell your friends. |
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It is a shame that I'm not what you consider to be an estabilished member.
I'd go all-in.
I'm 100% sure pirate is a scammer.
And what you're doing now is a desperate act of denial.
Go back a few pages, someone will act as a proxy for your bet. Looking forward to you going all in, be sure to post when you do. |
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Well, since you're just giving out bitcoins, essentially, I request that my bet be raised from 20 BTC to 30 BTC.
If that's the case Maged, then use the 250btc limit. Its free money, right, so why not? |
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