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121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: April 20, 2024, 01:45:11 AM


Another EZ game happened last days. Al nassr has been successfully beating al feiha with decent scores but im concerning about al nassr's attacking lines. It's caused by these statistics.

28 shoots
12 shoots on target
60 percents ball possessions

That's amazing statistics but al nassr was only scoring three goals which is very very far from what has already recorded by the club in the last game. I think that they can do better in the upcoming game. There have been many opportunities wasted for nothing.
Im concerning about how al nassr was performing so badly and this keeps continue. I consider won the game against feiha is good but the goals is very far compared to the total shots on target.


122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 20, 2024, 01:39:07 AM
Atalanta, an excellent showing on the way to a 3-0 win at Anfield last week meant that they already had one foot in the semi-finals. Atalanta progressed to the Europa League semi-finals with a 3-1 aggregate score against Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool, despite falling to a 1-0 defeat in Bergamo on yesterday night. Atalanta's performance was disciplined, hard-fought and probably deserving of a draw in Bergamo. Atalanta will now face Ligue 1 side Marseille in the Europa League semi-finals on May 2 and May 9.
It is not a shameful result for atalanta because the outcome in the game was achieved through penalty by salah, it's a common thing in the football. The fact that if  iverpool was unable to score through open play due to Atalanta's strong and consistent defense. Yeah it's amazing to see atalanta was able beating liverpool since many people predicted the opposite thing. The key game was in the first leg. People are being so delusional since they called for the comeback by liverpool. Klopp must be working even harder to win the last trophy for his club, which is also nearing the end of the EPL season.

Marseille was a strong club because it was able to send Benfica out of the Europa League. The upcoming match will be very interesting to watch considering the tension is gonna be even higher than before, especially given how much has changed. Shit happened to Liverpool; the club's performance has dropped significantly compared to the middle of the season.
Glad to see that this is the impact of the EPL loss, which was also putting pressure on Liverpool given that Klopp is expected to leave soon. This is good.
123  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't do this mistakes in trading on: April 19, 2024, 01:21:21 PM
The basic principle of trading is that it is better to make a little profit than to lose a lot. Failing to gain greater profit was never considered a loss, while failing to obtain current profit was a loss for them. Prices can fall at any time for any reason, so they must be very wise in decision making and put aside greed in favor of greater profit.

For a trader, it is better to make a profit of $1k today before the price is corrected than to make a profit of $2k the next day but have to lose $2k first because of greed. They can buy the dip if they take $1k today, this can leave them with more capital than waiting for tomorrow.
that should be the basic but trading is so uncertain that you can't just set your target and everything will eventually come to place, sometime the market behave in strange way, i mean yes having small profit is definitely better than losing money but i'm sure many people that are experienced in trading knows that sometime the price bounce back after we are selling, due to haste decision we missed such a great opportunity of making money. i mean such thing might not be a good thing for future trading but certainly spot trading there are many occasion where the price bounce back even higher could give bigger profit if we were patient enough we can get that profit but taking that small profit just because market showing little sign of dumping we just missed that whole opportunity.
the concept of trading such as getting little profit is better than losing, buy high and sell low, is a good thing to follow but applying is so hard.
personally when it comes to trading see whatever fits our target, being flexible is the key that could help us getting profit in trading, if the market is showing correction but you're so sure that it will eventually come back, maybe its worth a try to take that little risk and see how things gonna turns out.
124  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What people some people don't know about trading on: April 19, 2024, 01:12:37 PM
Trading isn't a shortcut to wealth; it's a journey requiring dedication and skill. Quick gains are rare; success comes to those who invest time, learn, and stay consistent. Earning big demands a year or two of mastering a specific skill. Without effort, replicating their success is improbable.
pardon me but there are many people that have massive quick gains with crypto as much as unreal it is but there are some people that are indeed lucky enough to gain massive profits.
its just that as you said, not everyone is lucky so the chance of us being the luckiest person out there is slim therefore conventional trading that requires dedication and skill is the way here.

what many people fail to understand though is probably the fact that with trading, dedication and skill doesn't necessarily guarantee success i mean there are people keep saying that hardwork pays but really trading is different case altogether the market of crypto is never that easy to predict, therefore its not pure dedication and hardwork that matter.
the adaptability of knowing how the market behave is also one way to be success in trading, I believe with combination of all those will evenutally spell success.
125  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Leverage on: April 19, 2024, 12:17:01 PM
Do you think everyone makesl lose I think only those who aren't knowledgeable enough to know what they are doing keeps calling into prey for this, Thus if you don't make profit doesn't mean others aren't making profit and between, your lose is profits for the market or to another trader while your profits is another traders lose there the market is known to be called " survival for the fittest" if you aren't strong and smart enough you would keep losing.
right? leverage exist for a reason, people with small capital wanted to have that opportunity to turn their peanuts capital into some good profit, because imagine trading $10 it will take years before you can even make profit that without even taking into account the fee, with leverage such as 25x the capital easily becomes big, the problem that most of people have with leverage trading is that they think they should just go big with their capital and leverage it, thats in its own isn't really true, people can just use small capital with high leverage just to test out the market.

the leverage feature also not enforced to the people anyway it just to give the opportunity for people that are so sure with their trading strategy.
even in stocks and forex there are leverage so its not really a feature that is alien to most of us here, i think leverage can work so good if combined with great strategy.
but i can also be double edged swords too so it depends like many have stated don't blame exchange for providing features.
126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: April 18, 2024, 05:38:57 PM
I think Man City still has a big chance of winning the Premier League and FA Cup trophies but that can only happen if they play with all their might, and they did not dwell on their defeat in the Champions League. In the Premier League, the opponent who might be able to trouble them is Tottenham Hotspur and it was an away match for Man City. Meanwhile, in the FA Cup, Man City will face quite a tough obstacle because in the semifinals they have to play against Chelsea, and if they win, they will most likely meet Man United in the final.
If you look at their opponents in the remaining games in the league and FA cup I think City have a big chance of winning both. Tottenham could be a problem for them but I think City can handle it. Actually, all three teams still have the same chance. Even one defeat could shift City's position. But the problem is that Arsenal and Liverpool performed poorly in their last matches. This means that even if City loses to Tottenham, Arsenal and Liverpool are not teams that are expected to win all their remaining matches, if you look at their recent performance. Arsenal and Liverpool also still have matches against Tottenham. And the chances of City losing to Tottenham are very, very small.

It's easy to beat Tottenham as long as ange as totenham coach continues to use his shitty tactics against the city. I don't see it as a serious issue because Tottenham consistently plays so poorly in all matches by implementing a high line defensive strategy which can be countered easily through use quick counter attack. Ange was extremely harsh, and he never accepted criticism from others regarding his tactics and i don't know why he keeps believe on his monotone tactic.

Manchester City has easier fixtures than Liverpool or Arsenal, both of whom will face numerous major clubs at the end of the season and it's increase city's probability to win the competition a lot. I am confident that City will win the Premier League trophy again this season, especially with ez fixtures increasing the chances of success.
City is not burdened by UCL because it lost to Real Madrid. Pep Guardiola's main focus is to ensure that his club wins two trophies this season, one from the Premier League and one from the FA Cup.
127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 18, 2024, 05:28:55 PM
Well seems like if Liverpool fails today and West Ham also fail we are not gonna have any english team in the semifinals of europe tournaments (i dont count conference is low level) i dont know when was the last time this happen.

I dont see the starter eleven from Liverpool yet, so i cant decide if im gonna bet on them or not.
Liverpool's chances of qualifying are still below 50% because they are 3 goals behind this is quite heavy and if 3 goals are owned without reply then it is something that cannot be believed, but I know anything in the match later hopefully there will be surprises.

I don't see West Ham going through, Leverkusen are on fire they will continue to win without losing maybe the minimum result is a draw that Leverkusen wants.

The match is 4 hours away, so the line-ups won't be shown now, but I feel Liverpool will field their entire main squad so it could be Liverpool winning even if it's not above 3 goals.

I agree with you i think that Liverpool will go with their main squad today to try and make a miracle comeback! But i think they will win against Atalanta but not qualify for the next stage because three goals to make up is just huge. Leverkusen will go for a draw or win to try and keep their unbeaten run so im going with them aswell in this match.

It's very hard to happen. Im still wondering what line ups that's gonna be used by liverpool in the upcoming game.

Do you know that the things that really surprise me to see how bookes keep give very small odds for liverpools although it will be playing away game against atalanta. That's unbelievable thing to see.

Look at the odds here.



Atalanta is still being unfavored to win the upcoming game. It means bookies believe if liverpool can do a comeback against atalanta soon. This is a golden opportunity to bet on atalanta. I'd rather than bet on atalanta win, BTTS or atalanta qualify. These choices totally make sense.

I can also expect over 2,75 goals to happen in this game. It's getting even more complicated for liverpool to score if atalanta will be once again doing parking bus soon. Atalanta was not a weak team.

Bookies gave us golden opportunity to get decent amounts of money easily. It's fuckin nice. I expect klopp will not be so stupid like the first leg in using the compositions to the upcoming battle.

Salah must have played since the first half and this is a must.
128  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is not a lifetime job. on: April 18, 2024, 03:42:13 PM
I quite agree with what you say, because some of the older professional traders I have met have changed their direction to become just investors or opened trading classes with their experience to be able to earn money. They say that they are old enough, so they cannot spend long in front of the monitor monitoring market movements. Or they are old and spending more time at home with their family is much more enjoyable for them. That makes sense seeing as how trading is actually quite stressful and takes up a person's time and attention - even though there are some people who say that trading can be fun, I think it's just a lie to attract more people to trading.
indeed a state where it might cause strain to our mental well being could never be fun.
but what they mean by fun I presume is probably the fact that when they are in profit adrenaline kicks in, they feel so excited with the progress they've made and consider it fun.
but the whole process is never fun personally I'm speaking from my personal experience being fixated on the chart 24/7 is never fun feels like too much effort being spent into watching out how the market plays out where really we should just set auto take profit on our trades its that easy.

I guess thats why as you said some more experienced trader are just leisurely using their money that are hard earned when they were still in their prime.
old trader definitely don't have the capability to be as fit as before anymore so it does make sense if they are teaching younger generation.
though its always better if they can get the grasp of current market condition for once.
129  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Stop paying money to learn trading when you can learn it yourself on: April 18, 2024, 03:13:32 PM
You can definitely learn trading for free, if you really want, there is Meany way. There are many free trading classes, courses, and videos available in various places that are very essential in trading. It would be better if you find a professional trader offline, to whom you can learn about trading directly. But it will also take you a lot of time, because trading is such a thing where all the money is lost due to a little mistake, it will take about 2-3 years to learn trading completely. If you use money in trading without learning trading completely, you will only lose them. So be it for money or free, after learning trading thoroughly you should start trading with money.
I personally don't believe that there's meaningful gaps between the experienced and the newbie, I mean yes the experienced are more mentally resilient and knows the how the market works but newbie too can figure out such thing in short amount of time if they are attentive enough, the important thing to learn in my opinion is something like the basics, the principle of economy, trading, the platform itself since we gonna do activities mostly in these exchange platform so knowing the features is good thing.

by then if someone just want to try out they can already know some basic knowledge and could built their experience from then, helps from expert trader at that point is no more necessary.
even though its always good to have mentor to point out a mistake or two, but eventually we gonna figure out everything by ourselves not too much dependant on someone.
130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 17, 2024, 02:28:18 PM


I was about to have a look at the betting odds on the next most important match scheduled for this round of Serie A, namely the derby Milan - Inter and I was quite surprised to see all the odds quite substantial. I'm not sure Inter can be proclaimed champion of Italy in this match even though for the bookmakers they are the favourite, I think the scudetto will be awarded much later

home or away game totally irrelevant in this game since they are having same home. This is going to be the most important match for Intermilan this season. I believe the club intentionally drew the previous match to celebrate Intermilan's scudetto in front of all Acmilan players and i can imagine that how painful acmilan fans to see their competitors to celebrate the scudetto. Intermilan successfully destroyed Acmilan in the first leg.
Why doesn't inter deliver the same result in the second leg caused by im still seeing a lot of similiarity betwene the first and second leg? I'll fully believe it if interimlan does it soon caused by this club is far stronger compared to the acmilan. The Scudetto will be awarded following this match, as Acmilan will be humiliated by Intermilan once again. There shall not be an excuse for inter players to lose in celebrate its scudetto in the upcoming match. Acmilan's performance remains inconsistent.
Intermilan is probably using this game to tell the public if intermilan is far superior compared to the acmilan. Lautaro is preparing to celebrate his scudetto in this match. Most anticipated match for the upcoming match day.
131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 17, 2024, 01:27:12 PM
Atalanta's 3 goal deficit is very large and even though Liverpool still has the opportunity to catch up on that aggregate, it will be very difficult when they play the second leg at Atalanta's home ground later. Maybe their chances are not great and with the bad results they got they have not been able to fully recover their mental health. The solution is that Liverpool have to fight harder than usual and that is if they still have the desire to win the title this season and it will be the last title that Kloop can present to the Anfield public.
Liverpool once created a miracle in football when they were able to score 3 goals in the 2005 Champions League final against AC Milan. Fans hope that Liverpool can create the same miracle again when they compete against Atalanta, which is a club from Italy. Actually, Liverpool still has a chance to beat Atalanta. But the problem is of course that Atalanta will play defensively because they have a 3 goal advantage. Italy is famous for their Catenaccio style of play. Liverpool must play aggressively and change their playing tactics. I think the previous defeat against Atalanta had exposed the weaknesses in Liverpool's tactics so they were surprisingly beaten by Crystal Palace in the League.
Did you think that if such miracle can easily come again? Man, it's not even reliable thing to be compared with this time. I meant you can take a look at the composition of clubs, coach or even strategy. We are in the modern football and the game you mentioned above happened even almost two decades ago.
It means if it's not even reliable to use it but liverpool can only dependent on its luck since the chance to win against atalanta away is a very small for liverpool. Im only waiting for atalanta to use the same parking buss strategy again.
It's obvious liverpool will be playing fully attack against atalanta soon caused by the reds lost three goals aggregates from the first leg.
132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 17, 2024, 01:20:13 PM


Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1780488277985755645

Leverkusen wonderkid Florian Wirtz seems to be attracting many clubs, including Barcelona and Real Madrid. Reportedly now Leverkusen have set a price of £128m and I think that is a very large amount for a talented young player. But Leverkusen is also not wrong considering Florian Wirtz's performance this season has been very impressive and as a winger the fee is still quite reasonable. His statistics in each season are so consistent, but what is most important this season is how he fully contributed to being an important player for Leverkusen in winning the title.

Well, the problem is, if Real Madrid are interested and are willing to pay that nominal price or they can negotiate it first, where do they want to put Florian Wirtz? Remembering that when it comes to wingers or attackers, they already have lots of options and just look at how Arda Guler still rarely gets playing minutes. On the other hand, if we talk about Barcelona, we all know their problems and there is no need to explain any more. I think the right path that Florian Wirtz can take is to stay at Leverkusen or if there is an offer from Bayern Munich that would also be quite good. But considering Leverkusen's performance under Xabi Alonso is so brilliant, he is certainly not thinking about moving at this time.

Florian has very good season with leverkusen, so why move? He shall be happy if Leverkusen will participate in the UCL next season and he will also able to show his worthiness to the various big clubs that will also participate in the UCL. There's no need to leave from there, but I'm concerned about Frimpong because this guy expressed an interest in joining another club and several clubs have been targeting him. I strongly believe that frimpong will make his move to go to the bigger club than leverkusen as per his old statement. We may see a slight change in the lineup next season.

The team's situation becomes increasingly difficult for bayern leverkusen. Club must have gotten the new talents who will able to defend leverkusen in winning bundesliga next season. Bayern Munich will also make some improvements under their new leader probably naglesmann. I believe all of the news linking florian to various clubs was still rumors until there will be official confirmations regarding his transfer. It makes sense, given Madrid's large number of attackers and it doesn't even make sense if madrid will try to take a new attacker to join in the squad. Madrid learns from hazard. 

It is impossible to bring him to the club, but several Premier League clubs, including Chelsea, have been interested in him. It only took Xabi Alonso one and a half seasons to win the Bundesliga and end Bayern Munich's dominance, which is incredible.
I would prefer to see him stay at Bayern Leverkusen for an extended period of time. There's no guarantee he'll make the starting lineup for the new club.
133  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you believe in savings or investment on: April 17, 2024, 12:56:13 PM
Investment is good than saving money, because through investing we can double our money in just a short period of time, while in saving it takes a very long time to have a big savings because it is really hard to save when we have a lot of basic needs to buy so for me investment is more good than savings.
to be fair investing can't be done without chunk of money unused on your bank account, so the way is saving and then investing, but by doing saving only and not investing we must be ready to sacrifice some of our money to be eaten by inflation at first some people would try to spare their money of inflation through investment and they eventually find out that there are other investment option out there that are not just sparing from inflation but can also grow the money significantly then they change their position on that investment.

saving is not wrong either, considering that investment usually also have the risk that could potentially make our effort of making money turned into losing money instead, some people might not favour investment exactly because of that, they just don't want to risk their money in return of opportunity to grow it, but just be ready for the money to be rather stagnating in value consequentially.
134  Economy / Economics / Re: Financial Advice for a young millionaire on: April 17, 2024, 12:22:03 PM
just focus on growing first and get a proper education, lack of financial management capability and risk assessment capability might create disaster in the long run, if he could make that money to get whatever best education there is, growing his connections for his future career and maybe start side hustle with his money I think thats already fine, but im no expert at financial advice and none of my opinion holds value for financial advice either, what I want to say though, avoid being greedy and putting that money in danger, you know such amount of money is hard to come by you better take advantage of any safest investment there is and one of them is getting a good education.

I think anyone can agree that whatever the financial condition someone in, getting the best education there is might opens up the opportunity for many things later on its like investment but an investment that might pay off big time at the end of the day depends on the hard work, also having good education might helps with managing his inheritance as well along the way.
135  Economy / Economics / Re: Is space mining creating market differences and on-earth-inflation? on: April 16, 2024, 03:46:57 PM
Space mining will not be possible for the next 50 years atleast, and we never know what will be the priority after a century and most likely the demand for natural resources will be higher so companies will be focusing on bringing them to the earth. As of now we don't worry about stacking as much as gold you can.
the rare material such as gold and the other will probably greatly affected when space mining is a thing but as you said no need to worry about next 50 year, because our technology stil so far from allowing us into having some efficient space mining going on, the increase in the material that earth is having due to space mining is still far away, but this doesn't mean that investing in precious metal will always be a safe haven for most of us to avoid the inflation, it also means that maybe in the future when space mining is really can be done by certain people or company or even government the price of the precious metal defnitely gonna be affected whether by small scale or large scale

but we are talking about the far future where everything is already advanced enough, right now even we are struggly in having inexpensive facility to launch a rocket, we are still in the early phase of space exploration where everything is still basics.
136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 15, 2024, 05:40:55 PM
What is meant is probably AC Milan draw against Sassuolo 3 - 3. I remember my conversation with giammangiato, that Sassuolo is a team that can surprise AC Milan. There are still 6 games left in the season, although I feel Sassuolo is an annoying team. Seeing them in a relegation zone makes me feel sad. If, in the remaining matches Sassuolo fails to get some wins, and they are being relegated, then I will miss Sassuolo facing AC Milan.

Well, maybe only for one season for Sassuolo in Serie-B (if relegated), but we never know, if their performance not getting better, maybe they will be in Serie-B more longer.

Terrible result from Milan as they were unable to win against Sassuolo. And that was something I never expected. Even though Milan does not have a direct threat from the team that is below them, Juventus, I still think that they should have been able to win this match. Like this should have been easy for them. And somehow they were able to concede three goals in this match. And to be honest, the first two goals that Sassuolo had scored were absolutely incredible. If they could defend a little better, they actually could have got three points from this match. Milan also did make some mistakes and also missed some chances in the attacking. Sassuolo did pretty well with the offside trap while defending.

Milan can still get one point. This is better rather than get nothing from this match. Totally unexpectef result to see that sassuolo was leading the first half but leao has opened the chance for milan to equalize the score. I know that how all of milan bettors are baffling to this club.
Milan performed so poorly in this match. Milan's target is now only securing UCL spot and no more. I know how frustrated the result is for all of milan bettors but sassuolo played a bit better in this game. It's able owning milan in the first half.

Milan's defensive line shall be fixed by pioli in the upcoming season. It can be started through selling or bartering some players with good defenders. Milan has so many midfielders but it lack of good defenders who can keep the goal keeper save from being threatened by its opponents.
Sassuolo was only fully relying upon its counter attack strategy. The gameplay of sassuolo was quite monoton as it's always waiting and attacking.

Milan has terrible defensive line. It's something that must be solved in the summer transfer season. I consider milan in safe position to get UCL spot now.

137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 15, 2024, 05:36:10 PM
Arsenal just dropped form,and their performance against Bayern last week and also their performance against Aston Villa yesterday showed it all that their form has dropped.The most annoying part of it is that they dropped this form when they have gotten to the climax of the season,when they should have tried everything possible to to still maintain a good form and solidity.With what I saw yesterday against Villa,I am pretty sure that Bayern will flog them at Allianz Arena on Wednesday night.
Indeed Arsenal's performance was quite disappointing when they reached the climax when they should have played well until the end, since last season Arsenal have been like this they were not very consistent when they reached the end of the season they made mistakes which led to defeat I think we will experience disappointment again where Arsenal return failed to win the EPL trophy and it looks like they will also be beaten by Munich in the last 8. I don't see Arsenal being able to beat Munich who have a lot of experience in the Bundesliga.
Bayern was always capable of destroying Arsenal in previous meetings but it's happening last decades, so many things have changed. It is known that Bayern had dominated Arsenal in the past, but this is no longer reliable enough to predict the future based on the previous head to head since it's outdated. Arsenal and Arteta are currently under intense scrutiny since club must be working even harder. The way for arsenal to get trophy is just getting harder. Arteta  and his player's burden is getting even bigger.

It is caused by Arsenal's failure to collect three points from Aston Villa while nearly exiting the UCL have been adding more pressures to the club. The match against Bayern Munich will be an important match for Arsenal to keep exist on UCL.
Allianz has always been a scary place for Arsenal. Arteta will go there for the first time as Arsenal's head coach. It will be a huge obstacle for him to overcome.

There were some reliable bets on this match. Bayern wins, BTTS, total of over 2.75 goals. I am confident Arsenal will do everything in its power to defeat Bayern, but let us see how capable it is of defeating Bayern on the road. Bayern struggled in the Bundesliga, but this could be different in the Champions League.
138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Neymar being addicted to online poker on: April 15, 2024, 05:03:16 PM
It's worrying, for Neymar's future. Remember regardless of the amount of money he has, when done to gamble without good control then it will be easy to run out. I'm afraid it will make Neymar poor. It should be that he improved his physical and mental abilities after the injury. He can prepare for a coach's license. But I hope the incident does not illustrate that Neymar is addicted to Poker. But that's just a bit of a way to get rid of boredom and the media gives news that doesn't match the facts. Maybe we should hear Neymar's statement directly.


Don't worry, mate. Neymar can print money from anywhere. He was one of the most popular footballers ever exist after messi and ronaldo, and he may have a variety of sources of income such as sponsorship, football player, or something else. Im not even worrying since he was great football players.

Neymar has been known as a regular poker player since career at PSG. Neymar plans to return to his childhood club. He has no plans to stay with his current club for a prolonged period.

It's very easy to make money as an influencer with thousands of followers.
139  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Have you tried Pre-Market Trading? on: April 15, 2024, 01:35:01 PM
these pre market trading basically just betting on the price of the coin after it got listed on exchange, the uncertainty of a price is a subject to speculation by many and therefore some people want to try pre market trading for the sake of getting the coin as early as possible so that they can dump it when it suddenly pumps in the exchange with the risk of the coin not getting valued as expected and instead got below value of their expectation on the other hand the seller can leverage this to get good price that they want and don't want to care about the listing price as long as they got the right price and its profitable enough for them they gonna sell it through pre market with the deposit as a guarantee that the seller will for real supply the expected coin.

Many people actually used these pre market trading for determining the price of the coin soon when it got listed and so far in aevo and so on, the price is kinda accurate, might be off set by certain percentage but it does indeed giving rather accurate price number compared to without pre market trading where the price is undetermined because lacks of data.
140  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does trading belongs to everyone? on: April 15, 2024, 01:04:40 PM
I will just go direct to your question in the OP,  trading is not for everyone because if you trade without necessary knowledge required to know the right signals to follow and how to understand the market very well, you can run into so many losses, so it is for people that have gotten comprehensive knowledge of how trading works that is expected to trade although there is no expert in trading but there are experienced people that knows how to trade. I know how many times I tried learning how to trade but every thing was just looking so scanty in my brain like I couldn't comprehend anything so I stopped developing interest for trading.
trading is actually require extensive knowledge of the market, some random people can't just try trading and suddenly know everything about trading, we need to have thorough understanding of how the market usually behaves, the basic principle of determining whether a coin deserves to be used for trading and investment, judging based on reputation, knowing several tiers of investors that might affect the price of a coin in the long run and so on there are still many more knowledge required for successful trading that haven't been mentioned yet.

I think sometime people just outright belittling how difficult it is with trading because they've seen so much bullshit running around in youtube and so on about how easy it is to turn into millionaire by trading just within a night the reality can't be farther from that.

even if you see some signal provider out there usually also miss its like their prediction is 50:50, even with all that information they just can't be sure, this also holds truth to many of the expert trader out there.
definitely its not for everyone to succeed in this field.
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