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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Conspiracy: The LYING Ethereum foundation already has Dagger ASICs on: August 17, 2016, 06:13:01 PM
Etherum are thieves nothing else.

Its like Rocket Internet same Bullshit, stole ideas make it big if it fail fuck it just go on!

There didnt care about anything just profit!

So don´t spend these shitty idiots not so mutch attention! Wink

You can also steal the Ethereum ideas and make it big. There is nobody preventing you from doing this. You can even clone bitcoin.
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH Foundation was basically caught trading stolen coins in exchanges on: August 16, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

It is all over reddit. I believe someone from the Ethereum foundation answered some queries over there or something. I'm not sure.

Vitalik and many others have already said they will be 100% on the Ethereum ETH, they will have nothing to do with ETC.
They quite rightly don't want to be associated with the ETC criminal coin. I support this moral stance like any rightminded person would.

That could be right. The main problem of the ETC is that it is a criminal coin. Otherewise , it is the same as other clones.
123  Economy / Speculation / Re: When do you expect prices to fall on: August 16, 2016, 10:36:24 AM
I don't expect the fall anytime soon. It is low enough and if your holding any now is the right time to hold on to them a little tighter to weather the storm.
the same for me, the prices will not fall anytime soon hopefully, im putting my money into bitcoins right now and i think it will bring me profit

It seems it is better to trade the bitcoin with other altcoin coins. Every day, there is a hot coin. I saw big increase of DGB today.
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Who will be the next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtokens on? on: August 16, 2016, 10:35:08 AM
Who knows if this was all an inside job at this point. Look at this shit:

http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/12/etcdao-stolen-coins-frozen-by-exchanges-was-sent-by-ethereum-foundation-developers/

I cant believe anyone is still supporting ETH instead of selling and going all in on ETC.

That is old fud news. The last information can be found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4xasg3/follow_up_statement_on_the_etc_salvaged_from/?st=irs01o2h&sh=aa71daa2


What FUD? That statement only makes the ETH foundation even more pathetic. Only ETH bagholders would believe that ridiculous excuse of a statement. ETH has really turned into a cult of bagholders.

From the reading so far, the DAO hackers has nothing to do with the Ethereum Foundation. It is just an individual or a group of people.
125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Should Ethereum and DAO be bought now? on: August 16, 2016, 10:33:46 AM
after today's news I sold all my ETH

What happened?

Nothing usually happened. There is news every day, and there are selling every day. In fact, I have bought some.

I have mined some Ethereum, and hold for the short term at least. If the price trend is going higher, I will keep them.

I have traded some Ethererum. But it is not too profitable. The volatility is too long at the moment. The price is quite stable.
126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Conspiracy: The LYING Ethereum foundation already has Dagger ASICs on: August 16, 2016, 10:31:10 AM
i dont know hy but i dont trust em they only looking for profit

All of us a looking for profits. But I do not believe if the Ethereum Foundation is involved in the development of Dagger ASIC.
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH Foundation was basically caught trading stolen coins in exchanges on: August 13, 2016, 05:17:32 PM
How in the blue fuck was this going to work? Surely they didn't think they would be able to slide a shitton of tainted coins into a MAJOR EXCHANGE without someone freezing? Furthermore, said exchange would be brain-dead if it allowed them to crash that market, which is probably earning them a great deal of quid atm. This was a bold, bold misstep. And those funds are gonna be tied up forever. They certainly can't send them back; they are going to have to be released to a third party and I feel the authorities are going to get wrapped up in this eventually.

This is shady icing on a suspicious cake they have been building since the first blatant conflicts of interest arose in this saga.


Oh my, what delicious phrasing!

The best part is we may still anticipate the cherry on top, and perhaps a side of ice scream as well.   Wink

ETH vs ETC is a battle for the soul and future of smart contracts.  If there is one thing Satoshi might use His coins to change, this is it...

Do you think the 3.6 million DAO ETC hacker should return the stolen DAO ETC to the original holders?
128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Conspiracy: The LYING Ethereum foundation already has Dagger ASICs on: August 13, 2016, 05:15:37 PM
There could be DAgger ASICs, as the difficulty is rising very fast. But I doubt it has anything to do with  Ethereum foundation.
129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Who will be the next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtokens on? on: August 13, 2016, 05:11:21 PM
Who knows if this was all an inside job at this point. Look at this shit:

http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/12/etcdao-stolen-coins-frozen-by-exchanges-was-sent-by-ethereum-foundation-developers/

I cant believe anyone is still supporting ETH instead of selling and going all in on ETC.

That is old fud news. The last information can be found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4xasg3/follow_up_statement_on_the_etc_salvaged_from/?st=irs01o2h&sh=aa71daa2

From the link, it seems those over 7 million ETC will be returned to the original owners. I am wonder if the other 3.6 million ETC will not returned or not.

There is no mention about the action plan for the 3.6 million ETC owner yet. It is possible that he already shorted the ETC and has already made enough profit.
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Should Ethereum and DAO be bought now? on: August 13, 2016, 05:09:21 PM
I cant believe I'm saying this after how iv been defending it but I'm going to go with no, after today's news I sold all my ETH

If you do not like the ETH, just sell it. There is no problem with that. I sold all my mined ETC as I think it is a pump and dump coin.
131  Economy / Speculation / Re: When do you expect prices to fall on: August 13, 2016, 05:02:15 PM
I'm not expecting prices to fall much, if at all from the current range. We've been fairly stable, price wise for a while now. This is usually what happens before a big pump.

I think so. There is no bad news in the pipeline to drive down the price unless there is another hack on a major exchange.
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Ethereum will be finished after this attack on: August 12, 2016, 05:03:03 PM

Do we know the plan of the white hat hacker? If they dumped the ETC at a price of $2 each, that is good money.
we do not know the plan of his though i think that etc is still going to be better, maybe he has already dumped his coins we will never know

The plan of the white hat is to return all the DAO ETC:

After having received repeated legal threats from various individuals holding significant stakes in The DAO (still continuing), we sought legal advice to help us pursue our goal without endangering ourselves or the salvaged funds. We found support and legal advice from Bity SA, a trusted Swiss entity. It has agreed to protect, secure and later distribute the funds equitably under an independent Swiss legal structure. The number 1 goal has always been to ensure that the salvaged funds are distributed in a fair, transparent and just manner. This remains unchanged.

When the salvaged ETC were able to be recovered, signals were received from the greater community to distribute these ETC in ETH, to continue to support Ethereum projects. Also, a large portion of the community does not have the technical ability to safely work both with ETC and ETH in the same address; therefore, returning part of salvaged ETC in ETH seemed to be the safest for all the parties involved. The first actions from the Swiss structure took place Tuesday August 9th and it preferred to not announce the movement of ETC in advance to avoid speculators taking advantage of the situation. Part of these funds are still on exchanges and the rest of the funds are held in the following accounts:

ETC Multisig: 0x1ac729d2db43103faf213cb9371d6b42ea7a830f

ETH Multisig: 0xd3b0b4fc31ee1f8570c75c19caa93cc1557e538f

BTC Multisig: 3JYwxuaHGKt8rZ9NbTEcyYRXtqkfN5Lz5Y

BTC Multisig2: 3Er3uMqBruv8VnhXUjyRbp2McASUE8t9HA

It has now become clear that this approach will introduce many unnecessary complications and wouldn’t bring certainty to all DAO Token Holders that they would be treated equally and with fairness. The objective evolved from the most desirable outcome (distributing ETH and ETC) to the most efficient and comprehensible distribution solution, that all funds will be made available in ETC to the DAO Token Holders. To achieve this, all exchanges will be asked to return the funds to the Multisig wallets.

We would like to thank the community for their trust and ask for their patience as the responsibility of returning this value to the DAO Token Holders is not an easy task. We are under a lot of pressure, but throughout this process we will continue to do the best that we can to protect the interests of the DAO Token Holders.

All the legal and technical work of the community members and the companies involved, has always been on a volunteer and pro-bono basis. Following our first statement, members of the community have expressed their keenness to donate crypto assets in recognition for the efforts deployed to salvage the ETC from the attackDAOs and to distribute it back to the community. Accordingly, it will be possible to donate when retrieving the funds. We will communicate next with a detailed plan for the distribution.
133  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin rose to $1M, what you do? on: August 12, 2016, 05:01:59 PM
If bitcoin price rose to $1m, i will sell all my bitcoins and open a business using that money. $1 million is really huge and so much money. Maybe i will leave my job.

If the bitcoin price does reach $1 m, I will not work any more, I will just enjoy good life and help others.
if the bTC reaches to $1 m then i would have not rested... i will share all the money either in business or in any trade.....And i will change some BTC to fiat, so that i can enjoy my life to the fullest... life would rock if BTC touch $ 1 million..

If price reaches to $1m then I think you should sell all your bitcoins to local currency as there is no point in saving some coins after that as it may drop dramatically after it has touched that value.

This is pretty much a practical idea.  It is likely that after something reach it's peak, the only way is to go downward.  I would gladly encash my bitcoin too because who knows, it mighht steeply fall after the bubble burst.  So why not make it safe and get that million fiat money by selling your bitcoin.

I do not think the bitcoin price will fall if there is not bad news. The only bad news I can think of is that there is bug in the SegWit.
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Who will be the next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtokens on? on: August 12, 2016, 05:00:20 PM
Who knows if this was all an inside job at this point. Look at this shit:

http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/12/etcdao-stolen-coins-frozen-by-exchanges-was-sent-by-ethereum-foundation-developers/

I cant believe anyone is still supporting ETH instead of selling and going all in on ETC.

That is old fud news. The last information can be found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4xasg3/follow_up_statement_on_the_etc_salvaged_from/?st=irs01o2h&sh=aa71daa2
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Should Ethereum and DAO be bought now? on: August 12, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
The main reason why ETC is falling is that the hype is over. Simple. Now it is time for it to develop fundamentally so that it will gain real value, not hype value. One thing to always watch out for in ETC is the hash rate. If it grows quickly expect long term growth of the coin.

The Ethereum Classic is independent now. So it will find its own developers. I am not sure how can it find good developers.
136  Economy / Speculation / Re: When do you expect prices to fall on: August 12, 2016, 04:56:51 PM
I think so. The price will start moving up in the next few weeks. The price could be even $900 by year end.

Really next week? Any strong basis or claims?

Each time some bad news comes out the price reacts accordingly. The recent bitfinex hacking is the latest of the bad news that brought the price down by more than 10% in one day. The only good thing about that is the price recovered a big part of that loss right away. Good for those who took advantage when the price hit $500 as it is now going up back again to the high $500s, even close to $600 at that.

Bad news testing out the support of the community if it will be properly established a good support for a certain range. Look how the price behaves with the recent bad news. Can't considered as a big price dip in my own view.

There is no bad news to drop the price at the moment. The price of bitcoin could hover around the $590 for some time.

I think so. The bitcoin price has been stable for some time, like that in the January to May, before the huge rise.
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereium Classic is a reminder of why Bitcoin must never hard fork on: August 11, 2016, 07:58:54 AM
Solidity Version 0.3.6 Released. Should the ETC holders upgrade their wallet?

https://github.com/ethereum/solidity/releases/tag/v0.3.6
138  Economy / Speculation / Re: 440$ reached on: August 11, 2016, 07:55:57 AM
Trading with a range can be a good consolidation. After a few months of consolidation, the price will rise again.

That is right. I think the price rose a lot in the May to June period, over 60% in some measures. So correction is needed.
yes, the price grew a lot though it seems to be going down once again, in my opinion the price is going to start getting back pretty soon and i hope it will shoot to the sky

I hope the price will go up, but not too fast. If the price rises just 3 to 5% per months, it is good for the adoption.

Slow price rise or low volatility is the main characteristic of a good currency. I hope the bitcoin can achieve that.

When the bitcoin market cap is $500 billion or more, it is more difficult to manipulate, the price will be stable.

That is right. When the market cap is high like some fiat currency such as British Sterling, the price will be stable.
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Ethereum will be finished after this attack on: August 11, 2016, 07:54:44 AM

Do we know the plan of the white hat hacker? If they dumped the ETC at a price of $2 each, that is good money.
thats true though the  hacker is definitely not going to be dumping his money soon, i think that he will hold it for the future when a pump will happen

Nobody dares to pump the ETC if he knows somebody will dump the coins to him at a very high price.

Most ETC buyers or traders are just in for the short term profit. They do not believe the further development of the ETC.
140  Economy / Speculation / Re: When do you expect prices to fall on: August 11, 2016, 07:52:49 AM
No lower than $350 this time

That is right. The bitcoin price could drop to $550 in the next few days, then it will rise from that level.
of course the price is going to go back up pretty soon, even though it was dumped, i think not for long and the price is going to come back and make me money

If the bitcoin hack is restricted to the Bitfinex, the damage to the bitcoin will be limited. The price will go up soon.
of course the price is going to come back soon, people will forget the hack and everything is going to be fine, just believe me and you will make profit

I think so. The price will start moving up in the next few weeks. The price could be even $900 by year end.

There is good development of the bitcoin protocol. I think the price will rise again in the next few months.
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