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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: January 04, 2017, 07:45:03 PM
Komodo has been a botch made by a scamartist and it does not deserve to continue living. What could be worse than this?

Answer: Tarz
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLOAK]CloakCoin Private,Secure,Untraceable & Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: January 04, 2017, 07:28:14 PM
Problem is : What is currently being worked on ?

We need actives devs, new features, marketing too I guess.

Seriously? Go back and read the last 10 pages or so, this is one the most active Dev teams of any coin. There is a V2.0 coming out soon, there is a current (real, commercial) marketing and PR campaign and the Devs post status and information just about every single day. They are always in the forum and will answer any question asked. We have our own forum http://forum.cloakcoin.com/, a kick ass website and, are on multiple exchanges. What more could they possibly do?

123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLOAK]CloakCoin Private,Secure,Untraceable & Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: January 03, 2017, 06:31:03 PM
Next coin based on anonymity will be pumped cloak as there is still lot of space in this area of market. Cloak will benefit the money flow which will be drained once Bitcoin market will be calm down little. Monero is untouchable at current prices but cloak can be good as alternative of that.

No wonder there are still lots of dev creative anon coins trying to take abite of that market. If byteball and komodo get to make it, cloak would probably make it too. They are in this market before them.

Just being involved in a market before 'them' means less than nothing.

Not really. First to market has the advantage for sure, second, third and so on have less but still there if their tech works as advertised. At this point in development, CLOAK still has some name recognition and that's good but, we need to attract new users so we can prove ourselves and that's where the PR comes in. Remember in history, almost every innovation that was first in their markets had the advantage for a short time until others improved on the technology. After that happens, it's anybody's game. CLOAK tech is solid and provable and the network is fast and reliable. Every little bit helps but, marketing is king!



 
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] E-CurrencyCoin Thread [CryptoBank Development] on: January 03, 2017, 06:09:47 PM
Best wishes for 2017 to everybody here  Wink


Indeed! Happy New Year to all!!
125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLOAK]CloakCoin Private,Secure,Untraceable & Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: January 03, 2017, 04:10:14 AM



Dear CloakCoin Investors-Developers

We would love to announce that your coin has been added to PumpMyCoin community public Votes.
you can participate in this vote on www.pumpmycoin.com to nominate your coin for the next PUMP.


sincerely
PumpMyCoin Team
We Pump But Never Dump

- IMAGE REMOVED -

Ah, no thanks...

PS: intentional market manipulation is highly illegal.

126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin - 2.1 Released! Decentralized Marketplace & Multisig Service Platform! on: January 02, 2017, 05:17:22 PM
this coin is so underpriced..

im buying it when i can

I don't think the Price will up since 2020 ... So slow ...

Since 2020? Can I borrow your time machine?
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 02, 2017, 05:14:40 PM

2017 will be a very exciting year for BitBay.
We will fork to POS3 in january, so check in often the next two weeks to keep updated.
The fork will lay the groundwork for cold staking, pegging, and more  Smiley

Happy new year

Will it really have the chance after all the decentralized market being created these days, it seem like there are much competition going on. It will be good if bitbay will progress though. imagine how much profit will an investor get if he invest today because the price is cheap.

Yeah however our decentralized market is peer to peer, the others bloat the blockchain. And Bitbay has double deposit escrow 2 party escrow (unbreakable contracts), which is only found in Halo products. No other coin in the world has a smart contracting platform that actually has a UI and works. We are probably years ahead of the competition.

Then why does nobody pay attention to this project? Seems strange to me...


Good question and I'm glad you asked. Bitbay hasn't yet spent any money on advertising. David and the community want a product to advertise,  rather than promises like 99% of other altcoins (ether being the prime example) once the new year is over and the decentralised market is up and running with all the features such as stacking and pay via email etc then focus will be on advertising and spreading the word in what has been created! We have achieved a $1m marketcap just by word of mouth!!

The famous saying is "If you build it they will come"

We are at the early stages of crypto still where people want to make a quick profit in a few days and not do any research into what they are buying. When the people that really count start investing into crypto (billion dollar companies) they will look at actual product and the technology! What has been created and not what is 'promised'.

Also as David has said above he is the creator of Halo! So in theory he owns the copyright to it. Nobody can copy it or replicate it without his approval. He owns that technology!!


It sounds like you don't know how to advertise or want big money to me. You make promises you know you can keep that equals hype and then more people are hyping and waiting for the release of said hype development tool. (FREE ADVERTISING) and may I add, the best! You guys have a good product but it won't go anywhere now you mark my words, you have no strategy, you think you do but you don't, you think you and master david know all. BUT YOU DON'T. Example, ether got places and was seen around the world because it was able to hype vapour, now think if you didnt think you know everything Bitbay could be world wide and worth a fortune even at this stage and then what advertisement you think you could top up the already great shit you had going on? Sorry but ya'll amateurs. I am available for strategy at the right price.

Wow! Your available? I bet you are... Have a Happy New Year (somewhere else)  Grin
128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: January 01, 2017, 04:49:51 AM
I had the same thought about byteball, if Komodo can't run itself on the bitcoin that we all put up for this project, then it should have refunded every one of us and said "sorry guys, we can't make this thing fly". It shouldn't have to rely on the byteballs. Giving them back to the komodo investors would have been an awesome loyalty move that has been missed. Now a lot of Komodo investors are (rightly or wrongly) thinking "f*ck you komodo, can't wait to dump my tokens as soon as I can.

Let's not forget the yes, nodes are expensive but btc has just taken a huge hike in value. JL777 is no fool when it comes to crypto trading and I assume he's moving them about for optimum profit and to maximise the budget.

I just think the BB cost nothing so wouldn't cost anything to give them away.

I write this as someone who linked a large amount of btc to the BB project so I'm holding long term. I'm not writing this as someone who missed out on that unique project.

I'm not expecting this post to be addressed by the team as it's been dealt with previously, I just wanted to express my thoughts on the matter.

 
There are a few assumptions here that I am not sure are correct.

First of all, the assumption that it wont cost anything to distribute the BB is incorrect as I am not aware of any built in BB dividend function that can take a snapshot of KMD balance and allocate some amount of BB to it

which means somebody would have to code this. there arent exactly a long line of volunteers who are prepared to create a production usable BB dividend mechanism.

which means it would take time and cost money and also necessarily delay core komodo functionality as it is likely that the staffing needed to do this are already on critical paths. So there would definitely be direct costs and an indeterminate amount of indefinite costs.

Now, I am not sure what market value the KMD's BB stake will be worth. If the value of the BB is 10 to 50 BTC, then after netting out the cost for running the dividend, there wont be that much left over, ie 10 BTC / 100 million -> 10 satoshis per KMD.

So for every 10 BTC of BB value, it is a whopping extra 10 satoshis per KMD. To put this into perspective, if you have 10 million KMD, it will be worth 1 BTC. If you have 1 BTC worth of KMD, it will be worth about .001 BTC

Now, whatever value the BB has it will go toward enhancing KMD, so investors are getting value from it. Based on my estimates the costs for doing the distribution will be in the same order as the value. The only way I would do it is if I had promised that I would and it was an obligation to do so. However, I said that we had to raise the higher end of the ICO for us to do the BB distribution.

What we raised was not sufficient to qualify as the higher end of ICO and we have already had to reduce the notary node subsidies due to this. So it is not like we are swimming in so much money that we can take time and effort away from the main KMD work, to send out money that we would have been be able to use.

Anyway, this question has been asked and answered. Events turned out to not trigger any BB dividend. There are costs associated with doing a dividend and even if I didnt already say that I wouldnt do it, given the current information I have, I still wouldnt do it.

My obligation is to the KMD investors, which means increasing the value of KMD and not spending time and effort distributing out funds that we could very well use in future years. Also, what many seem to forget/ignore is that I stated what conditions were needed to trigger the BB distribution DURING the ICO. To me, that means that people invested in the ICO with the assumption that I would do what I said. If I change that, then it breaks trust with the investors.

Please do not ask me to break trust with the investors. I simply cannot consider it.



Fair points raised jl777. I'd just like to mention that I have no intention of selling my komodo, I just feel many might use the BB objection to do just that.

I see WAVES sold their truck load of BBs for 35btc. Considering the amount they received, that price seems way too cheap. I sold 200GB for 4BTC so maybe they think BB will crash and burn. Anyhow, for the aid of transparency, would the komodo dev team let the community know how many BB they received and keep us updated when they choose to sell and the amount of BTC received and what line items receive the revenue?

Why should they do that? You either trust them or, you don't.
129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: December 31, 2016, 08:08:55 PM
Is there any working roadmap for this project, it been months now that the ICO has been concluded but there is no actual date that token distribution will take place, no working windows wallet and to me it seems the developer only cares about swapping his tokens for KMD, leaving the actual ICO investors to fend for themselves

Didn't the ICO conclude on Nov 20th?   How do you figure that it's been "months" since then?

Is that the best you can do, calling 5 weeks, "months"Huh  Sorry, but no one is taking you seriously.

Either he needs to learn to read or, go troll somewhere else...
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLOAK]CloakCoin Private,Secure,Untraceable & Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: December 30, 2016, 03:19:06 PM
Sell me dumpers! Cool

Ha! Hard to find any "dumpers" here...  Grin
131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: December 30, 2016, 03:11:50 PM


Happy New Year to all!
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: GoldCoin™ (GLD) Thread - The Gold Standard of Digital Currency [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 30, 2016, 03:09:03 PM
Many thanks to the dozens of YouTube viewers who participated in today's #LIVE Christmas day team broadcast.

Our next broadcast will be a week from today on New Year's day!

I looked, and received 50 GLD , looking forward to New Year's broadcast!
GoldCoin, it is growing and that's good
Good luck and success in the new year


Happy New Year to all!
133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: December 29, 2016, 06:25:17 PM
I had the same thought about byteball, if Komodo can't run itself on the bitcoin that we all put up for this project, then it should have refunded every one of us and said "sorry guys, we can't make this thing fly". It shouldn't have to rely on the byteballs. Giving them back to the komodo investors would have been an awesome loyalty move that has been missed. Now a lot of Komodo investors are (rightly or wrongly) thinking "f*ck you komodo, can't wait to dump my tokens as soon as I can.

Let's not forget the yes, nodes are expensive but btc has just taken a huge hike in value. JL777 is no fool when it comes to crypto trading and I assume he's moving them about for optimum profit and to maximise the budget.

I just think the BB cost nothing so wouldn't cost anything to give them away.

I write this as someone who linked a large amount of btc to the BB project so I'm holding long term. I'm not writing this as someone who missed out on that unique project.

I'm not expecting this post to be addressed by the team as it's been dealt with previously, I just wanted to express my thoughts on the matter.

 
There are a few assumptions here that I am not sure are correct.

First of all, the assumption that it wont cost anything to distribute the BB is incorrect as I am not aware of any built in BB dividend function that can take a snapshot of KMD balance and allocate some amount of BB to it

which means somebody would have to code this. there arent exactly a long line of volunteers who are prepared to create a production usable BB dividend mechanism.

which means it would take time and cost money and also necessarily delay core komodo functionality as it is likely that the staffing needed to do this are already on critical paths. So there would definitely be direct costs and an indeterminate amount of indefinite costs.

Now, I am not sure what market value the KMD's BB stake will be worth. If the value of the BB is 10 to 50 BTC, then after netting out the cost for running the dividend, there wont be that much left over, ie 10 BTC / 100 million -> 10 satoshis per KMD.

So for every 10 BTC of BB value, it is a whopping extra 10 satoshis per KMD. To put this into perspective, if you have 10 million KMD, it will be worth 1 BTC. If you have 1 BTC worth of KMD, it will be worth about .001 BTC

Now, whatever value the BB has it will go toward enhancing KMD, so investors are getting value from it. Based on my estimates the costs for doing the distribution will be in the same order as the value. The only way I would do it is if I had promised that I would and it was an obligation to do so. However, I said that we had to raise the higher end of the ICO for us to do the BB distribution.

What we raised was not sufficient to qualify as the higher end of ICO and we have already had to reduce the notary node subsidies due to this. So it is not like we are swimming in so much money that we can take time and effort away from the main KMD work, to send out money that we would have been be able to use.

Anyway, this question has been asked and answered. Events turned out to not trigger any BB dividend. There are costs associated with doing a dividend and even if I didnt already say that I wouldnt do it, given the current information I have, I still wouldnt do it.

My obligation is to the KMD investors, which means increasing the value of KMD and not spending time and effort distributing out funds that we could very well use in future years. Also, what many seem to forget/ignore is that I stated what conditions were needed to trigger the BB distribution DURING the ICO. To me, that means that people invested in the ICO with the assumption that I would do what I said. If I change that, then it breaks trust with the investors.

Please do not ask me to break trust with the investors. I simply cannot consider it.


"Now a lot of Komodo investors are (rightly or wrongly) thinking "f*ck you komodo, can't wait to dump my tokens as soon as I can. "

No, "a lot" of us are not thinking that, that is not reality. But, for those few who are, please, do it as soon as you can so the rest of us can get back to growing our investment and actually using KMD..

"My obligation is to the KMD investors, which means increasing the value of KMD and not spending time and effort distributing out funds that we could very well use in future years. "

Exactly and, thank you for stating that, it is crux of everything being done here right now. As a KMD investor, ICO and BTCD (when swap is available), I am quite pleased with jl777's integrity and work ethic as well as the progress being made on this project. Those of you complaining, try it yourself. I've been writing code since the early '90s and I know what it takes so, be patient if you want quality and security.

I really wish people would consider what they are about to commit to history by posting in these forums.



  
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | funding science | CoinFest UK Sponsor on: December 28, 2016, 09:22:06 PM
World's shitest coin

Really? There are at least 600 or so that could hold that title and this ISN'T one of them. Crawl back into your hole...
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin - 2.1 Released! Decentralized Marketplace & Multisig Service Platform! on: December 28, 2016, 09:11:10 PM
Actually very nice whitepaper guys.

Agreed. Your points were rational and well made. Lots of promise in SYS with this technology.
136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔹🅰RK🔹[ANN][ARK] A Platform for Consumer Adoption with SmartBridge🔹 on: December 28, 2016, 05:17:11 AM
NOTICE: Lisk Refunds have been processed to the address requested

Thank God! Will the whining stop now?  Grin  GO ARK!
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: December 28, 2016, 05:12:14 AM

Will be there more docs on that?

No jokes, no docs, no party. Iguana abandoned a cell in the zoo and walks away, glimpsing at strangers as if they own her money. Looking at how a discussion develops, I came to a conclusion that iguana died and kmd will follow her destiny.

Nonsense...
138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLOAK]CloakCoin Private,Secure,Untraceable & Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: December 28, 2016, 01:23:53 AM
0.00025 to 0.00015  Huh Huh Huh
Is there any news?

Most ALT money is going into Bitcoin right now, wait till that rally is over. Mean while, buy CLOAK!
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: December 27, 2016, 02:51:23 PM

Happy New Year to David and everyone in this forum!

PS: For once, that may actually come true!  Grin
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Financial_Privacy/SuperNET_Core/InstantDEX/PAX/Divs on: December 27, 2016, 02:44:43 PM
Coinitrage.com Arbitrage Firm now accepts BTCD!



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Yea, it's a rip off. BTW, I like your tag line "Evolve to Disrupt" but I think it says more to "Disrupt to Evolve"...  Grin
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