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121  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa alasan utamamu investasi di bitcoin dan crypto? on: February 05, 2024, 10:30:58 PM
Sedikit berbeda dan saya ingin melakukan revisi tentang tujuan saya investasi di bitcoin, sebelumnya tentu investasi di bitcoin untuk mendapatkan keuntungan namun di sis lain saya ingin menjadikan investasi bitcoin sebagai warisan kepada anak dan istri suatu saat nanti.

Saat ini banyak sekali orang tua mewariskan dalam bentuk uang, rumah atau tanah kepada anaknya di masa yang akan datang namun saya rasa opsi investasi bitcoin dijadikan untuk warisan hal yang unik dan sangat membantu sekali agar anak kita ke depannya mendapatkan keuntungan lebih besar dengan warisan yang didapatkan bitcoin di bandingkan dengan rumah, tanah atau uang dengan potensi nilai inflasi yang cukup tinggi.


Apa ada diantara kalian tujuan utama investasi di bitcoin untuk dijadikan warisan suatu saat nanti? apakah hal ini sedikit terdengan tidak realistis atau bagaimana
122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion on: February 04, 2024, 01:09:01 PM
Now we have 4 teams in the semi-finals and this time I predict that South Korea will go to the final, but can't predict who their opponents are in the final whether Qatar or Iran.
For ideal AFC Asian Cup final seems South Korea vs Iran, looking both teams performance in semifinal round I think has close chance qualify to final stage exactly with Iran defeated Japan on quarter final. First semifinal match Jordan South Korea, its crucial for Jordan for the first time their appearances in AFC Asian Cup success lead to semifinal round. Jordan success defeated Iraq in 16 of round and Tajikistan in quarter final before reaching the semifinal round.

Actually Qatar has advantage with their fans supported, but in quarter final match their performance not impressive well after winning against Uzbekistan trough penalty kick. I think the final dreaming AFC Asian Cup 2023 seems South Korea vs Iran and both teams has impressive well since group stage round until lead to semifinal round.
123  Economy / Economics / Re: If Banks make money out of loans then they should reward those who borrow on: February 04, 2024, 10:01:06 AM
This doesn't just talk about the price but how they try to appreciate consumers by giving them gifts even though the price is not much. The ones who benefit are still the state because they are the ones who manage it and other benefits are that entrepreneurs can use their services to transact between countries in the business they are involved in. As I said before and if the use of banks is for the smooth running of business it is not a problem and the most inappropriate thing is to keep all the money we have in their place/bank.

If we talk about revolution, the previous people had done the traditional way and they didn't use banking services but instead bought gold and land tas a replacement. Now the era has changed where most of us prefer to buy bitcoin to save as an investment asset. The development of the times provides many choices and it all depends on how someone takes advantage of the opportunities that exist.
Bank already appreciated their costumer by giving gift and reward but only for the user have or saving much money in the bank, seems all bank around the world adopted with this system earn money from the loan but less appreciated with their costumer about how much profitable earn and has enough fair for distributing to their user. Actually not all user are agreement for receiving the gift due some people only take benefit when holding or saving their money in the bank has more security than holding the money by own self.

There are not difference kinds of assets saving, seems the same when saving the gold the place of saving service will take benefit with our assets to be as profitable and loan to the other. During our money keep safety and already whenever we want to withdraw actually not problem yet with  Bank take benefit with our money holding in the bank.
124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: February 04, 2024, 02:24:35 AM
Real Madrid has advantage with last night matches result after Girona hold draw by Real Sociedad 0-0, actually has opportunity for Real Madrid with 4 points remaining if can beat Atletico Madrid tonight. Have bad news with Antonio Rüdiger seems will absent in the derby match after getting injury on last match when Real Madrid defeating Getafe, I don't sure who will filled central defender position because current players left only Nacho as real center defender.
 
Real Madrid's center defender have injured Militao, David Alaba and Antonio Rudiger need several weeks later for recovering, seems the same with last match formation when Carlo Ancelotti moving down Aurélien Tchouaméni from holding midfielder become center defender without has any other option.
125  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Be careful and don’t promote a scam campaign on: February 03, 2024, 10:45:12 PM
If you look at people's promotion of the 1Xbit campaign, you will see that they are people with a reputation or any high that is well known in the forum. All the accounts that have been seen promoting the campaign are not active accounts; they only wake up and apply for it, and they were picked and continue to prompt a well-known scam project that's not right. However, if you look at them well, you will see that all those accounts have neither negative nor neutral trust in them.
Have been consequence for user promoting the scam campaign will receive negative trust with their account, actually many board had explained about which one scam gambling side and consequences receiving is the user keep promote the scam campaign. All account had promote the scam campaign such as 1xbit get red tagged account but its not including with that campaign promote only for all campaigns. Likely this scam gambling site still active right now although not promote with bitcointalk forum because I found on social media platform twitter make new tweet every day.

that's right, there are also many signature campaigns running here that become scams in the middle of the campaign, not before the campaign takes place, if a scam project is going to hold a signature campaign then there will definitely be many DT teams who will give warnings and even give red flags to the project. just look at what happened to the gambling signature campaign that ended in a scam, there are definitely red flags all over the account.
Seems exceptional with the campaign running in the middle way get scam and the user can't category as promote the scam campaign since know the campaign have been scam stop promote it and remove all signature code or avatar in their account. Can't predictable with the project will the project ended become scam or not but the OP points about promote campaign have been scam in the first time not running in the middle way.
126  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin be stolen? on: February 03, 2024, 09:41:38 PM
This can all be realized if users can understand the bitcoin storage system in a much more secure wallet, but if users store bitcoins on a centralized exchange then there is no guarantee that their bitcoins will not be hacked. The level of security for bitcoin assets really depends on storage and if we know how to store it well then it is likely that our assets will be much safer.
I think saving bitcoin fund in wallet and centralized exchange have difference highest level of security, actually offline wallet more recommended than use exchange for saving bitcoin assets. In exchange wallet has unique the security level depend on regulation on each exchange market, usually with exchange detect new IP login access will required email confirmation are there real owner or not and loss access if hacker have take all data exactly with email. But has advantage with centralized exchange for saving assets when forgetting or reset 2FA have feature re KYC and its difficult way for hacker stole bitcoin fund are saving in the exchange wallet.

Bitcoin is a digital asset and is very unsafe if the owner does not set standards for storage. The private key or seed phrase is something that is most sought after by those who want to steal bitcoin because once they have it it is quite easy to take it.
Generally, all digital assets is very unsafe right now how many kinds malware or fake link sent to us and risk if using the same mobile phone are place saving our bitcoin then use for active in social media. More safety use difference mobile phone for saving place digital assets such as bitcoin and another phone using for social media when get malware link keep protecting with our digital assets such as bitcoin.
127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: February 03, 2024, 08:22:49 PM
Even if these teams are playing more competitions than AC Milan and Roma, I think that none of the teams would be happy to face Liverpool or Leverkusen given how they are currently performing. Of course the risk to get injuries is higher when the players have to play at their limit in more games, but these players are used to doing that. Liverpool is used to doing that anyway for years now and Leverkusen has a decent squad in terms of their depth. They can rotate and they have shown this now when the Africa Cup of Nations is going on and they had to substitute several players at once. Yet their results are great.
Indeed AC Milan is most experienced team who more winning UEFA Champion League I doubt for winning the Europe League, my favorable teams list still have Bayern Leverkusen and Liverpool on the top candidate teams become the winner. African Nation Cup will end few days later and Europe League 16 of round still plays for few weeks later, I think not much problem for Bayern Leverkusen and Liverpool have qualified to 16 round waiting for the drawing match schedule after playoff round will play two weeks later.

Current performance in domestic league, Bayern Leverkusen still defend with the unbeaten match and I think Xabi Alonso have more promising performance in Europe League to be strong candidate team become the winner, wish both them between Leverkusen and Liverpool not face early round.
128  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa alasan utamamu investasi di bitcoin dan crypto? on: February 03, 2024, 01:31:45 PM
Kalau saya pribadi orientasinya jelas di profit yang ditawarkan om, saya kira bullshit kalau ada orang yang invest di kripto hanya untuk teknologinya, apalagi hanya sekedar kesenangan, BTW, maaf nih om, yang om maksud sebagai kesenangan di sini itu apa ya? bisa diperjelas biar kita-kita tidak miskonsepsi Cheesy. Lagian ada-ada aja buat topik yang beginian.
Dulu banyak yang mengharapkan ada manfaat atau teknologi yang di adopsi pada satu koin membuat orang tertarik untuk berinvestasi, saya rasa ini bukan tujuan utama apalagi seorang investor dengan target profit yang harus diperoleh setiap tahunnya tidak begitu peduli dengan teknologi apa yang telah diadopsi dalam cryptocurrency. Untuk saat ini, profit dalam hal investasi bitcoin jauh lebih penting daripada hal lain mulai dari bitcoin diadopsi perusahaan besar, dijadikan teknologi penunjang hingga bitcoin menjadi alat transaksi yang legal.

Namun ada sedikit berbeda dengan manfaat atau teknologi yang diadopsi pada investasi NFT, saya pernah melihat offer atau tawaran yang diberikan oleh NFT yang bersangkutan tidak hanya keuntungan dalam hal investasi namun dengan memegang NFT tersebut kita diberikan akses ke beberapa tempat oleh perusahaan yang menjual NFT tersebut.
129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador has become the first country to make #Bitcoin legal tender! 🇸🇻 on: February 02, 2024, 04:45:40 PM
I think the name Nayib Bukele is not only popular with the people of El Salvador but this name is known and popular with people all over the world who know about Bitcoin. El Salvador will probably have presidential elections on February 4. We hope that Nayib Bukele will definitely win this election as his popularity is highest And the people of El Salvador like Naib Buckle's promise to maintain Bitcoin as an investment asset for the future.

You can understand how popular Nayib Bukele is among different Latin American countries and different presidents.

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This image Said that Nayib Bukele will be re-elected as President of their country and Bitcoin's progress in El Salvador will be much more widespread.
El Savador president Nayib Bukele have been popular since make legal bitcoin transaction in his country, seems easily for him get the first list name of popular latin president keep consistency make bitcoin progress become legal in his country. First time his ideas got bad respond but he gives proof how more advantage when bitcoin success adopting as legal payment currency and El Savador tourism get significant without few years after bitcoin method payment acceptable.
Next election is not problem for Nayib Bukele to be winner and defend his position as El Savador president, he will continues for adopting bitcoin as legal payment currency and he make El Savador become popular Latin American country around the world.
130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 02, 2024, 01:31:34 PM
I think Inter can beat Atletico in the first leg. Inter Milan this season is very strong in the domestic league, both in defense and attack. The first leg will also be played at San Siro, of course Inter will take advantage of this advantage. In contrast to Atletico, which is still less consistent in the domestic league, they did manage to beat Real Madrid, but that was not enough, they often made unnecessary mistakes when facing weak teams.

Even so, for now Inzaghi is focused on beating Juventus first in Serie A to widen the points gap. If they can win against Juventus, then in Serie A they will be a little safe and they will focus on beating Atletico so they can qualify for the last 8 of the Champions League.
In domestic league, Inter Milan had better performance and leading top position standings awhile but their opponent team in 16 of round Atletico Madrid had quit well performance too. Not really gap performance for both team and seems difficult to predict which one team closer to beat each other and get one ticket to quarter final round although Inter Milan on the top standings in Serie A position. Significant pressure when playing in Champion League and have difference with domestic league, losses one or two matches in domestic league still has opportunity return to tittle race but difference with 16 round if failed win two leg automatically have eliminated.

Atletico Madrid attacking line performance very impressive this season, Alvaro Moratto and Antoine Griezmann become top scorer team and seems will make difficult for Inter Milan defense. I think both team have offensive game play and interested to watch will have many goals scoring on the first and second leg match.
131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: February 02, 2024, 10:41:15 AM
I not sure whether Messi can really be part of the Argentina national team for the 2026 World Cup because at this event Messi may have much more significant decline in playing quality.
Just look at the time Messi left Barcelona and the last time he played in the 2022 World Cup, he experienced some decline in his playing quality.
Such as his stamina starting to decline and he was no longer as impressive or as fast in every match he participated in.
This can also be proven that Messi is not core player because he cannot always be used in every match, perhaps also because the coach wants to see Messi doing well or avoiding injury or other bad things.
Do you doubt Lionel Messi's current quality? there are not significant level performance for Lionel Messi after leaving Barcelona and joining with PSG success bring Argentina become the winner in FFIA World Cup 2022 Qatar. Lionel Messi still in the top level performance whenever he plays right now he can keep his physical on the top level. But in FIFA World Cup 2026 he will be 38 years old and get little increasing down performance but its not impact with club he plays right now as Inter Miami.

I think has potential with Lionel Messi keep give the positive side for Argentina on next world cup edition if not get injury, Lionel Scaloni as Argentina manager still need him and Lionel Messi plays well for Argentina in World Cup qualifier CONMEBOL zone. Seems not difficult for Lionel Messi become main player for Argentina because not only show his best quality but also he can manage well motivate his team and FIFA World Cup 2026 seems the latest his appearance for national team.
132  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [Diskusi] Presiden Boleh Memihak dan Berkampanye di Pilpres on: February 02, 2024, 05:16:26 AM
Saya memiliki persepsi bahwa pasal 299 Undang-undang Nomor 7 Tahun 2017 tentang Pemilihan Umum tersebut sebagai pasal karet. Sebab bisa tafsirkan dalam banyak kondisi, salah satunya pasal tersebut ditujukan secara tidak langsung untuk Presiden dan Wakil Presiden yang ingin mencalonkan diri kembali untuk periode kedua kalinya, namun juga bisa dipakai untuk Presiden saat ini yang ingin berkampanye mendukung salah satu Paslon lain. Saya sudah membaca UU tersebut khususnya pasal 299, isi pasal tersebut dalam penjelasan pasalnya disebutkan "Cukup Jelas", jadi secara aturan Pak Jokowi tidak salah. Namun tidak semua masyarakat bisa menerima hal tersebut ditengah dinamika politik saat ini, sebab jelas terlihat bahwa Pak Jokowi akan berpihak pada Paslon 02, menurut saya yang dilanggar oleh Pak Jokowi adalah etika Politik saja.

Di era presiden Jokowi banyak sekali UU yang direvisi untuk kepentingan politik kelompok mereka dan mudah untuk merivisi undang-undang karena mayoritas DPR juag didominasi oleh partai mereka. Bahkan publik dibuat bingung dengan keputusan Presiden yang tidak konsisten hanya dalam hitungan minggu mengeluarkan keputusan yang berbeda dengan sebelumnya.
Dulu semua pejabat dari tingkat kepala daerah hingga anggota DPR diharuskan mundur jika ingin mengajukan diri atau maju dalam pemilu selanjutnya, namun UU tersebut direvisi dan semua pejabat baik kepala daerah hingga menteri tidak diharuskan mundur seperti saat ini anaknya jokowi yang maju sebagai calon wakil presiden namun masih memilki jabatan sebagai walikota Solo.

Presiden memiliki wewenang untuk merivisi UU yang berlaku saat ini tentang pemilu, namun saya rasa saat ini dia sudah melanggar banyak hal mulai dari batas usia untuk calon presiden dan wakil presiden hingga ASN boleh berkampanye atau mendukung salah satu paslon dalam pemilu dimana awalnya hal ini bertentangan dengan UU pemilu.
133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: February 02, 2024, 03:46:19 AM
Finally, It seems that the significant level difference between the Saudi Pro League and the MLS League has been answered after Inter Miami losing over 6-0 against Al Nassr last night. Still have questionable with Lionel Messi fans are expected MLS League more competitive than Saudi Pro League because two matches Inter Miami have losses in a row and right now we had know which one more competitive between Saudi Pro League and MLS League.


Cristiano Ronaldo's fans little disappointed although their favorite team defeated Inter Miami last night because they can't see Ronaldo scoring the goals, he must absent last night match had injured and ha possibility for Al Nassr won over 6-0 if Cristiano Ronaldo are in the starting line up name list.
134  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why do many people fail in trade? on: February 01, 2024, 09:27:36 PM
Not significant different between business and trading, why many people still fail in trade because they loss control with many unpredictable thing happen in gambling after understand well with theory and have difference thing implement with practice. To be success in trading is not enough understood well with theory and we have compete with emotion controlling until how limitation with patience when market get crashing suddenly without get panic moment for selling bitcoin or cryptocurrency assets.

Without a dedication to continuous learning and practice, people can find it difficult to discover new abilities and strategies that are essential for profitable trading. One needs to place a high priority on continuous learning projects in order to become an expert and reliably profitable trader.
Need motivation and won't give up after several time fail in trading but has decision keep continue learning and practice before become success with trading. Make mistake as lesson for the future if won't get the another failure in trading exactly in cryptocurrency has the same formula and way when trading in bitcoin or altcoin.
135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 01, 2024, 08:36:27 PM
Of course, Manchester United management doesn't need to focus on winning the title this season because bad conditions like this will make it impossible to provide the best performance and what MU must prioritize is just looking for more quality players and looking for a more experienced coach to be able to help the club this is a return to performance like the past and was able to win the trophy he wanted.
The reason I say it like this is because I no longer have trust for a long time, I gave the opportunity to be patient and believe in Erik Ten Hag, but it was all in vain and I really hope that MU can fire the coach and try to find another coach like Xavi or Xabi, even though it's too much, but there's nothing wrong with speculating early.
Seems realistic with Manchester United target in this season very difficult for winning Premier League trophy and management not support yet with Erik ten Hag, today the inter transfer window have been close and not any new player sign by Manchester United although they had losses some players Jadon Sancho loan to Dortmund and some youth players loan to the other club. Have been two season for Erik ten Hag becoming Manchester United manager and winning domestic league seems very impossible thing, how many season later do you trust with him actually for this season Manchester United have out from top fourth position standings?

I'm also not sure whether MU will be able to get more quality players this month or will just waste money again because Erik Ten Hag doesn't have the intelligence to choose players and I have to admit that in the coming season if Erik Ten Hag still stays I'm sure MU will end worse.
For this winter transfer window have been over and there are not any approach players target by Erik ten Hag, seems less money from manager difficult for him sign new players and manchester united have prepare with previous team for playing several matches left in premier league and have target to lock one top fourth position at the end this season.
136  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Info & Tutorial] Multi-Signature Wallet on: February 01, 2024, 02:30:37 AM
Saya mengalami sendikit kendala di step 22 pas masukin master private key, padahal sudah saya copy sebelumnya dan pas paste tidak bisa di klik lanjutkan karena disitu ada pilihan upload master perivate key via file dan juga qr code. Mungkin ada step yang salahkan sebelumnya padahal saya sudah ikutin step by step mulai dari langkah pertama hingga langkah ke 22 sesuai dengan picture yang agan @abhiseshakana tuliskan.

Kira-kira posisi salahnya dimana ya sampai tidak bisa diklik next di langkah ke 22 padahal master private key yang saya masukin sudah benar dan sesuai.

137  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed on: January 31, 2024, 11:49:03 PM
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138  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto investment vs real estate investment : Which one more dependable? on: January 31, 2024, 10:30:53 PM
However, with the capital you only have $2500, I think investing in real estate will be very difficult, even if you find a price like that, the place will not be strategic so the investment will not produce the profits you dream of. It's a good idea for you to study Bitcoin in more depth. If you already understand and know the risks, it is better to just invest in Bitcoin with that amount of capital. because this is the right time to buy bitcoin, especially now that there will be a bitcoin halving, of course the price of bitcoin will continue to increase until bitcoin reaches a new ATH so you can make a profit by investing in bitcoin.
I think have capital $2500 and use for investing in real estate is very difficult to earn much profitable due one kind of real estate raise above $20k, that amount better use for investing in bitcoin without have any difficult rule when investing in real estate. Seems easily to earn profitable consistency if have capital $2500 around 10% to 20% depend with long term or short term investment but in real estate that amount not enough to take care of investment permits in real estate.

There are many non-technical things that must be prepared before investing in real estate, such as obtaining permits from the government, taxes regulations that are applied during the real estate buying and selling process and other non-technical things that require quite large expenses. Difference way when investing in bitcoin just controlling by our self without have regulation from government and not worry about taxes transaction.
139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 31, 2024, 05:00:58 PM
Barcelona vs Osasuna

Today have La Liga postponed match for matchday 20 between Barcelona vs Osasuna, looking current standings position from Osasuna can't guarantee  Barcelona will easily for winning in this match. Learned from last match, Barcelona losses from Villareal have lower position standings than Osasuna. In last two matches before, Osasuna won 1 match against Getafe and last week match draw from Sevilla. I think is very good capital for Osasuna get one or three points against Barcelona have two losses in last two matches.

On average, weak teams know how to complicate Barcelona's winning plans, but not always weak teams can prevent Barcelona from winning. Villareal was indeed lucky with an additional 2 goals in extra time, but this happened because Barcelona was too concentrated on attacking and failed to keep their defense safe. Ter Stegen is still injured, this means Xavi has to play Inaki Pena again in this 20th jornada.
Its not matter with weakness team or not because Barcelona have poor performance in last several matches before, difficult made clean sheet and Barcelona goals keeper Inaki have conceded many goals since replacing Ster Teegan position after injuring. I think Xavi Hernandez have put in the bench awhile for Inaki and give chance to youth goal keeper Ander Astralaga.
140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price: $35K or $45K next? on: January 31, 2024, 01:22:51 PM
Since dropping drastically under $39k bitcoin have good recovery but still need time raise to stable price, current highest bitcoin price today above $43,700 but easily dropping $1000 and bitcoin current price right now $42,600.
Actually difficult for predicting with bitcoin price in short or long term although have near future with halving but bitcoin still not stable price exactly since ETFs approval.
Last several days, bitcoin not has significant movement between drop or pump and stable around $42k, for short term predicting seems bitcoin movement stuck under $45k but we can't expected for long term predicting how potential moving with bitcoin price exactly when few weeks left before halving has chance create new high price?

To me I was expecting the price to be much higher than $45-50k+ but it hasn't gotten past $45k and keep going instead we have it dropping so fast to either $39k or $40k, is really disturbing to investors and traders. Can we ever see it get up to $50k before the halving? No one knows what to expect in the price as it is.
Seems need time for recovering bitcoin will raise to $45k to $50k in short term because can't stopping with bitcoin correction after raising higher price few percent and bitcoin easily go down to lower price. Have long term for bitcoin keep existing in the higher price and stable around $50k if want make highest price in the next time.
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