When ADEL will add to bittrex? I'm worried about the exchange rate for bitcoin, since 1 August, he should fall, I want to quickly see a trades(volume) on a major exchange. The developer can give a concrete answer about this. Because we are waiting for quite a long time, and results for volume are still present.
We have asked bittrex yesterday to bypass the "proof of developer" requirement of their process, since it is taking so long to get approval. We are waiting for their response. Why do you have trouble passing this requirement? |
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Well they don't look like they have the best of team.
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What the fuck is this shit lol |
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You guys are funny.
Polo clearly isnt safe for accounts without 2fa.
Polo knows its site continually gets hacked by this type of attack.
Polo is guilty by allowing this to continue. Easy lawsuit win.
Edit. Polo also made and kept money from the fraud, ie transaction fees. Sounds guilty by association to me.
What you don't seem to understand is that it isn't Poloniex that gets hacked, it is the computers and/or emails of the account holders that get compromised, allowing the hackers to get their Poloniex password and compromise their accounts. You are the one enabling yourself to get hacked when you don't use 2fa, Poloniex isn't there to protect your computer/email from hackers. |
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would you plz calm down? we are willingly "scamed" by this great project. plz. most contributors are feeling very comfortable with current situation and future. don't bother taking care of us. Some of you already drank the Kool-Aid. It's too late for you, but there are other people out there considering investing in XEL. Those are the people who need to know the full story so they don't get scammed. there is no scam, because there is a real working product now. this is only what matters now to potential investors. Also the topic donations / lannister is well explained on the elastic website. nobody is hiding or deleting any information He/She/it will not understand that. Not a single DONATOR got scammed. Stop spreading lies. It started as an ICO/IPO not a donation campaign, conveniently the conditions were changed in the middle Lannister/ElasticCoin/Lionel Keys was supposed to give out information about his identity but conveniently he never did Out of nowhere Evil-Knievel practically took over the project while Lannister was supposedly still in charge, at best they were close acquaintances, at worst they were the one and same individual Evil-Knievel deleted all his posts from a thread from before the ICO in which people were asking whether he was the same guy as Lannister Lannister runs away with the ICO funds (which in the meantime had become "donations"), Evil-Knievel becomes officially in charge Earlier this year in his signature he was asking for bitcoin donations because supposedly his old car was about to die on him (something along those lines, he was pretending to be practically poor), turns out last year he said he started accumulating bitcoins in 2012 and has a bunch of them, and that he is heavily invested into XEL The guy keeps asking for and taking donations for all the work he has supposedly been doing "for free" If you mention any of that in the other thread or ask any question related to this you get called a troll trying to spread FUD by all the fanboys who are supposedly only here for their love of the project, but who are in fact solely motivated by their year-old investment going to the moon, then your posts get deleted. The whole thing looks like a sect If you read the old threads from before the ICO many people were already showing concerns about the whole thing looking shady. Is it a coincidence the ICO funds then disappeared into the wild? The lead dev Evil-Knievel sounds capable I will give him that, but there are a lot of shady things surrounding him. There are too many coincidences. If you read old posts from him from last year you can get a glimpse of his character (wise remarks such as "Fuck you loser" to anyone putting him into question) I don't know whether they will deliver what they promised, judging from all this there are reasons to doubt it. My bet is Evil-Knievel is the guy who ran away with the ICO funds. By calling ICO funds "donations" he can keep pretending to himself that he didn't steal from anyone and not feel guilty about it. Read the old threads and make up your own mind before investing. I have no incentive in saying all this other than presenting a story others want to hide. I asked simple questions in the other thread and was attacked and bullied by the XEL sect then my posts were deleted, well they won't delete my posts here. |
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The devs made a huge mistake in going silent after the ICO. It looks really bad on them. If they had come out to speak about the future, the price would have been higher for the first few days. Now the price is headed towards $1 (the ICO price!). People will lose trust for the future.
I did invest and sold for a loss. But I just lost hope with the silence.
however on the slack, the developers said that they are simply working and not communicating because they are preparing the next phase. for next months there is not much to show, like ethereum first months of 2014. they told is a long term project and they have to organize and develop. however they will send specific updates in the next weeks. They have to take some nice summer vacation with the ICO funds cut them some slack, give them a few months then they will start working, maybe |
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I don't understand why every time bitcoin goes down, the price of dnotes goes down further more. In USD it has depreciated from $0.32 to $0.11 now. This is a total control of whales. There are more DNotes in whales pockets than in long-time holders pockets. A coin holder won't dump like that and with this volume...
That seems to be the case with pretty much all altcoins today. If you look at overall BTC dominance of the total coin market cap, it was like 37-38% a week or two back. And right now, it's 43+%. So, it stands to reason that on a day when 145 of the top 150 coins are in the red (with most of them being down 10+%), and a day that is seeing an increase in BTC market cap dominance....that most alts would fall further today than bitcoin. Doesn't seem too out of the ordinary, all in all. Though it does kinda suck to lose the kind of money today, overall (in BTC, LTC, ETC, ETH, XRP, and SYS, along with NOTE) that make grown men cry. But I'm determined to be not be emotional about all this volatility. Either up, or down. HODLLLLLL I still don't understand the correlation between BTC and alts . Why the other coins drop in price when bitcoin drops ? I was inclined to think that people sell BTC to buy alts which would have a totally different effect from what is actually happening now. So is it the market totally controlled by bitcoin whales ? And the whales sell when the BTC price is up then buy when it reaches a bottom and so on , accumulating more and more from the unexperienced traders? over the last 24h i lost more than $10000 which is very annoying. Well "lost" is inaccurate because i'm still on the green side overall but this volatility is not for the faint-hearted. When the value of BTC/USD goes down a lot the value of alts/USD goes down a lot as well (because they are mostly indexed relative to BTC), which leads people to sell their alts into BTC and then USD, which brings the value of alts/BTC down and the value of alts/USD even more down, which leads more people to sell their alts and so on and so forth until remain the people who do not want to sell or are not aware of what's going on, and once BTC/USD stabilizes or goes back up people start buying BTC and alts again |
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Hey Brad Lee, I read the Marketcap article you provided, but it still tells nothing new that we don't know. We know liquidity is important but now only BTC has proper liquidity. You saw what happened with Coinbase ETH glitch 2 days ago when a miriad of stop-loss orders got triggered in a chain reaction to bring the price to $0.10/ETH. So we'll leave liquidity out of the conversation. In the article they give Auroracoin as an example - WTF?!? Syscoin is a normal digital asset with NO funds left locked to be released at a later date or under a certain condition. It's all available NOW, with the normal inflation rate for the next over 50 years, something common like in Bitcoin and Litecoin. 525mil. coins available now in circulation with max circulation of 888 mil. coins in 50 years. Nothing hidden, nothing left aside. 1.5% inflation/year until 2028, then 0.75% inflation. Just FYI US FED's inflation goal is 2% and beyond per year. From the coin specs whitepaper: There is a 888 million maximum coin limit. 1 minute block time. Proof-of-work SHA-256 merge mineable (majority of network security coming from Bitcoin). Syscoin 2.0 had a block reward of 54.13. Syscoin 2.1 which was released on December 18, 2016 represents a ”halving” event in block rewards reducing them to 16.39 per block (a reduction of 330 percent).That is what I call scarcity of supply.I try to and I still don't get your point. In normal coin distribution, things are...normal. What is your definition of scarcity? The coin is scarce enough. Scarcity is inflation rate. How much surplus of it do you get each day guaranteed. And distribution schedule is great - only 40% of max circulation will be added in the next > 50 years. 60% already available for less than 3 years since coin's inception. It has this distribution because it will be a market-supporting coin after all, it will be actively used as a medium of transaction, medium of exchange. Market capitalization is the leading indicator about a digital asset's value. Price doesn't mean so much. Price doesn't have any relation to scarcity. It is just marketcap divided by number of coins. Simple. And psychologically for transactions I would prefer having a coin that costs a few dollars rather than a few hundred dollars like ETH.
Easier to handle, easier to get accepted and utilized, plus ordinary people easily getting used to it.
Because that's the goal - mass adoption!And regarding marketcap, take a look at market caps around Christmas 2016, when the article was issued: https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20161225/I have extracted data about a selected few coins then and now: 25th DEC. 2016:#Stratis - 36th / $6.066 mil. marketcap / $0.061770 per coin / 98.2 mil. coins in circulation #Siacoin - 45th / $4.503 mil. marketcap / $0.000208 per coin / 21,692.3 mil. coins (21.6 billion coins!) #SYSCOIN - 48th / $4.267 mil. marketcap / $0.008182 per coin / 521.607 mil. coins 23rd JUNE 2017:#Stratis - 10th / $746.761 mil. marketcap / $7.59 per coin / 98.4 mil. coins (+0.2 mil. since 25th DEC. 2016) #Siacoin - 14th / $541.766 mil. marketcap / $0.019958 per coin / 27,145.03 mil. coins (+5,452.73 mil. / i.e. +5.45273 billion coins! coins since 25th DEC. 2016 -> 25.136% inflation for less than 6 months!!! That would give over 50% inflation rate per year for Siacoin, compared to 1.5% inflation rate for SYScoin, 34 times higher inflation rate than SYS! But somehow, it doesn't bother marketcap and price per coin for Sia!) #SYSCOIN - 41st / $124.515 mil. marketcap / $0.236884 per coin / 525.637 mil. coins (+4.03 mil. coins since 25th DEC. 2016 -> 0.7726% inflation for 6 months / ~1.5% inflation per year, as scheduled) NOW, these coins above are the ones that I would define as having great potential, and accidentally, were really close to each other in marketcap on 25th DEC. 2016. BUT: How come Stratis (+42.1% marketcap over SYS on 25 DEC. 2016) now has +499.73% (6 times!!!) higher marketcap than SYS? How come Siacoin (+5.53% marketcap over SYS on 25 DEC. 2016) now has +335.1% (4.35 times!!!) higher marketcap than SYS? How come Siacoin with such a high inflation (>25% for less than 6 months), gained so much in marketcap - following your logic? Not only it has over 27 billion!!! coins - huuuuge distribution, but also so much inflation for such a short time for an "established" coin! Because... Market is a bitch sometimes.For me all 3 coins above are great in what they *PROMISE* to achieve. But I have seen nothing tangible in terms of products from Stratis and Siacoin to uphold their words. Just words and bare promises so far. And they still boast 6 times and 4.35 times respectively higher marketcaps than SYS! I am especially suspicious of Sia cloud storage promises to deliver 10 times!!! less expensive cloud storage solution than the cloud storage offerings of established companies like Amazon, Google and Microsoft who can provide economies of scale because of their dimensions and mind-boggling customer base, not counting smaller cloud storage companies who claw to stay relevant and not get out of business! And then comes the savior Siacoin with promises of 10x (not 10% but 10 times!) cheaper prices of cloud storage. In conditions of fierce competition for customers? Give me a break!!! Something's not right. Something's gotta give. But I digress.. SYScoin, on the other hand - with THE lowest market cap among the coins with highest potential will have its main product released probably this week!!! For sure. And we know it is coming in the next few days at the latest...because the Blockmarket status was at Beta 4 version just over a week ago! It is going nowhere but to be released as we speak. For STRAT and SIA not really. But still this huge difference in marketcaps!Now tell me if you are a SMART INVESTOR - where would you invest??? And last but not least which would be more valuable for the average Joe in the long run - a development platform for .NET (Strat), a cloud storage solution (Sia) or a decentralized marketplace (SYScoin)? Did our predecessors and ancestors have 1) a development platform, 2) cloud storage, or 3) a marketplace 50 years ago, 500 years ago, 5000 years ago? Nuff said. Just my 2 cents. Now that was a great read! We don't get to see that kind of analysis often on bitcointalk, and I agree with pretty much everything |
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WTB at 22k sat
Looking for 5000 XEL, may consider buying more
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I followed the rule of diversification as well, but i would have had much more if i didn't. I wanted to put more in LBRY but i was just, there has to be maximum and i choose it to be around 25%  If the project is good, you don't need to diversify. You never know what can happen, sometimes for reasons you didn't have in mind the whole thing crashes and you're away for a few days and by the time you come back you're left with a worthless bag of shit. Going all in always comes with a risk, always, you just don't see the risk when it goes your way, you can minimize it but it is never zero. |
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TheDAO should have been a warning to these new folks who did not yet lost money in the 'crowdfunding' scene.
We've been there already as I raised the red flag about a week before the attack: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504662.0I did not researched the DAO, because I simply didn't care about what it is. But recent news surrounding its flaws made me look a bit deeper and even I who am not a developer saw the possible outcome. Now this pretty much is happening with ETH. It just can't sustain all of these "projects" and the balloon will burst, but this time the DAO will look like a joke. And what bugs me the most... Let's talk about money. I made a decent amount of money during my years in crypto, but I'm not even close to a millionaire. And if I start calculating all of the coins I had in the past, then my net worth should be probably in the $5-10 Million range. But why it isn't? Because I'm not buying these crap... as simple as that. Did I missed 10s and 100s of trains? Yes. Do I care about it? No! But one can say I am successful (I did not lose money, I bought some things from profits in the past) and if I was a hypocrite (which I'm not), then I will be able to fund such project by myself. Why they need money if they were so successful? Just do some premine and run it for free. If your project is good enough it can again make you millions (because they're all after this - making money). But this way they can fail and blame others. And more important: to bail out, as the DAO did. As you have rightly said that you only invest in project that you believe in, then you equally don't have to castigate others in others in the project that they also believe in just because they didn't see it the way you see it. For the mere fact that I am putting my money in a project even if its for one day accounts to the fa t that I believe in it.m because believe in itself is a subjective matter which is not universal to every one on the planet to follow through. The subjective reasons one may have for believing in a project may be objectively shit. |
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I was watching the price closely. Price jump ahead then strong buying support at 20.6k before beta release date was officially announced. Chart telling me this isn't fair game...
It was known the beta was coming out in June, and depending on how high this goes it may still be a very good time to get in |
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Any ideas why the exchanges are speculating a drop to 1723 in the short term? http://www.bitcoinforecast.comAlthough this is not always correct, bitstamp nailed the most recent drop within a few bucks. What a bunch of fucktards having an anti-trump disclaimer on their site. The label has the typical "trump be raycist" statement, but all the word racist means nowadays is white people that refuse to be cuckolds for brown people. No, racism has not narrowed itself down to fit your narrative of it. Honestly, I respect your trading posts. I think they are well written and show insight. But whatever politics you have, you would never trade them - and your skin color - for being a black person getting stopped by a white cop. Would you. I hate to break it to you, but there's only 3 real powers in this world right now: whites, jews, and asians. Everyone else is just some type of pawn or insignificant bystander while the murderous death cult known as international zionism actively plots against everyone else. " I am the only living witness but I must say the truth. Contrary to the opinion of the National Socialists, that the Jews were a highly organized group, the appalling fact was that they had no organization whatsoever. The mass of the Jewish people were taken complete by surprise. They did not know at all what to do; they had no directives or slogans as to how they should act. This is the greatest lie of anti-Semitism because it gives the lie to that old slogan that the Jews are conspiring to dominate the world and that they are so highly organized. In reality, they had no organization of their own at all, not even an information service. If they had had some sort of organization, these people could have been saved by the millions, but instead, they were taken completely by surprise. Never before has a people gone as unsuspectingly to its disaster. Nothing was prepared. Absolutely nothing." - Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski The world is a place with lots of incompatible people, religions, and cultures.
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Well, this is a constant battle which, according to some people, started with the Atlantis Legend. As far as i can see the pillar of 'suppression' is still here holding firm to their positions and although i really hope the pillar of 'enlightenment' will come one day, it will be a heavy-chaotic-period in order for this transition to be completed, 'they' won't go down that easily. Therefor i'm trying to oversee to possibilities which these 'suppression-based' people could have regarding the crypto currency market... Sure there are conspiracies, groups of people conspiring for their own interest against the public interest, but I don't believe in the kind of conspiracy you seem to have in mind. Right now I don't see a better investment than the crypto market if you do research and don't invest in stupid coins (although even those get a pump every now and then). It may be a risky investment if you plan on holding a coin for 10 years, but over the next few months and years some coins will do x10 and x20 and x30 and more, you just have to pick the right ones. The potential benefits far outweigh the potential risks as long as you do what it takes to keep your coins safe, just don't go all in on one coin, nor all in on crypto. |
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Too bad I sold at 700 sats 2 months ago
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Hi there, Hey Guys,
After months of lurking i decided to make my first post and ask for your help/opinion. I have searched in advance but can’t get a clear answer to my question/point of view which can be found below.
Disclaimer
English is not my native language and this can be the problem why i don’t find any answers (garbage in = garbage out). If so, please accept my apologies for wasting your time!
How it all started…
How is the price of an alt coin calculated in (for example) Bittrex? In BTC or in Dollar?
I buy alt coins in BTC from Bittrex, but is this BTC price calculated from dollars to BTC by Bittrex (combined with demand/ask), or are the alt coins standard defined / calculated in BTC? Why this question: as far as i can see, the price of a certain alt coin only changes because of ask/demand. I don’t see any change in the SAT price of an alt-coin when the BTC dollar price goes up or goes down (well, i haven’t noticed this so far as I can see this difference).
So if a certain alt coin (coin ‘X’) is worth 1000SAT and the ask/demand is steady (no fluctuation), what would happen to the dollar price of this coin ‘X' when the BTC dollar price will double from [X] dollars to [Y] dollars? Will the value of coin ‘X’ still be 1000SAT at price [Y] or will the price of this certain coin drop from 1000SAT to 500SAT because BTC-Dollar price doubled? The price of an altcoin is determined by how much people are willing to buy/sell it for. If no one wants to buy it for more than 1000sat or sell it for less than 1000sat then the price remains at 1000sat. Likewise the price of a BTC in dollars is determined by how much people are willing to pay in dollars for one BTC. If the BTC/dollar price goes up and the price of an altcoin remains at 1000sat then the price of that altcoin goes up in dollars. It will only go down to less than 1000sat if people start selling that altcoin for BTC. You may notice that when the price of BTC/dollar goes up quickly most of the altcoins go down. This is not because exchanges like Bittrex apply a correction against the dollar, but simply because people are selling their altcoins for BTC. They may want to cash out their BTC or they may sell because they believe other people are going to sell. What if?
If the above assumption is correct and the value is determined in BTC and the value of BTC (in Dollars) will drop, it will automatically means that the alt coin price will also drop in dollars. Of course, people will jump from BTC to other alt coins to maintain profit what can make an alt-coin rise. Do have have in this case the same situation within the coin market as within the financial market; Bitcoin has the same position as the Dollar; if the Dollar will ‘collapse’, all the other exchanges will also collapse because of the dollar-dependence/relation they have. If the bitcoin drops too fast then there are not enough people buying altcoins to compensate for the drop of the altcoins in dollars, and then more and more people sell their altcoins seeing that their investment is shrinking causing a fast drop of the altcoins as well. However bitcoin has less and less dominance relative to the whole of crypto space with more and more money flowing into altcoins, so if that trend continues as time goes by a possible collapse of bitcoin will have less and less impact on other altcoins. And more and more altcoins are being bought directly in fiat (dollars, euros, yuan...) rather than in bitcoin, as time goes by the whole crypto edifice depends less and less on bitcoin. The impact of a bitcoin collapse on altcoins would depend on the reason behind the collapse as well, but even if the bitcoin collapses it seems that there is no stopping the growth of decentralization in all aspects of our societies, and even if bitcoin dies, decentralization allowed through the blockchain or similar technology will live on, and so will some of the altcoins. I believe your underlying question is, should you invest in cryptocurrencies if some entity may have the ability to crash bitcoin? And my answer would be, if that were to happen, the altcoins would crash temporarily, but the ones with important use cases for our lives would rise back up, because what they will allow is too important not to happen and people around the world will make it happen. Some entities will try to stop decentralization, but in the end freedom will prevail, it always will, because the will for freedom is too strong to be controlled. In my opinion there is no stopping decentralization now, only a global war could temporarily I suppose. Cheers |
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What's the point of the ICO if the thing is already developed?
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The price grows more easily when people understand what the project is about  |
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I think it would be good to present the project in more layman terms so the masses can better understand what is being developed here exactly. Right now one reading the OP gets lost among acronyms, Novus, Afix, Atmos, ATMS, IPFS, JSON, PUSH API, SFSI, ...
Your thoroughness is commendable, but by focusing on the technical details one loses scope of the goal of the project which is, as you say best on your website, instant unlimited access to anything.
IPFS is the future of the internet, of HTTP. Distributed, faster, more open. Eventually the majority of the internet content will be served through IPFS. This project will index all that content in a decentralized manner, be it movies, music, images, books or files of any type, and make it instantly accessible through nodes of the blockchain. ATMOS coins will be used to incentivize content providers, for instance one will use ATMOS to request content, and earn ATMOS by providing content
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Is there any news from bittrex, I dont like either of the exchanges we are on much and we really need a big trusted exchange like bittrex. I asked them in their slack and I dont remember who but they said that it was being considered. Is there anything you or us can do to make this move faster?
igigme 77 looking out.
They cant add.If they do they get Problems with the law. Atmos is a not legal movie sharing page Yes they can ...they add vtorrent which is illegal . plus we are legal and are fully compliant with dmca take down requests ...nice try tho vtorrent is not illegal though, just like torrent isn't, it's a technology, which can be used for doing legal and illegal things, just like a car can be used to do legal and illegal things Ok..sure. Its biz model is unless they plan to take down torrents of movies that have copyrights like how we plan to fully comply. Pretty sure they won't so suck it vtorrent fanboy. Hope u enjoy their website...oh wait that's right ...its been two years and still not one😲😂 Vtorrent is not a company so the concept of business model is ill-defined in its case, the more people use the technology the more the value of the coin rises by the law of supply and demand, the inability to control what users share doesn't make it illegal, only decentralized (though I'm sure some policy makers would love to make 'decentralized' illegal) Stating facts doesn't make one a fanboy, and in case you haven't realized I posted on the first page of this thread |
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