After the Dwolla account was shut down, US customers are likely clearing out their Bitcoins ASAP.

This will cause a massive crash of the Bitcoin price.

Hallo,

ik heb enkele dagen geleden een Bitcoin-marktplaats gelanceerd, BitServiceX

Bitcoins kopen met iDEAL, Bancontact/MisterCash of Sofort Banking. Binnenkort worden daar ook eMaestro en V-Pay (Visa) aan toegevoegd. Eventueel ook paysafecard en U-kash.

We richten ons op de Europese BTC-EUR markt. Het plan is om een echte handelsbeurs op te zetten, en ons te registreren als 'Payment Service Provider' bij de Nederlandse Bank. We richten daarvoor een B.V. op met een stichting 'derdengelden', die de inleg van deelnemers garandeert. Dus ook als het hoofdbedrijf ten onder gaat, zit het geld in de stichting, dus niemand loopt dan risico zoals bij Bitcoin-24 of vele andere beurzen. Alle Bitcoins in cold wallets, dus niets op de web server.

Ik hou jullie via dit forum op de hoogte als er vorderingen zijn. Voorlopig dus Bitcoin inkoop/verkoop via https://www.bitservicex.com/nl

Groet,

Looks good!

Bitcoin-24 war ja eine Engländische Ltd. mit einem Polnischen Bankkonto und Deutschen Inhaber

Aber genau, die Idee für uns ist bald möglichst eine Service mit Banklizenz zu werden. Momentan biete ich nur Einkauf/Verkauf, also noch keine Soforthandels-Börse. Das sollte insoweit rechtlich in Ordnung sein. Für eine seriöse Börse muss man bei uns zuerst eine Stiftung gründen, die das Geld der Teilnehmer verwaltet. Dann wissen alle Teilnehmer Bescheid, das Geld ist sicher, auch wenn die Hauptfirma platzt. Danach geht's los, ich erwarte diesen Sommer dan ganze fertig zu kriegen.

SEPA bei Mt.Gox dauerte bei mir 3 Werktage.

Hallo,

wir sind ein Holländisches Unternehmen aus Amsterdam und bieten über BitServiceX nun auch auf Deutsch Bitcoin Einkauf/Verkauf an.

Einkauf per Giropay, Verkauf per SEPA-Überweisung. Nach Zahlungseingang werden die Bitcoins gleich versendet.

Ich schaue noch ob Sofortüberweisung eine weitere Möglichkeit ist. Da bin ich mir noch nicht sicher zwecks Stornierungen.

Es wird mittlerweile auch gearbeitet an einem Tauschbörse-System (für ganz Europa). Dafür werden wir uns im Endeffekt offiziell beim Niederländischen Bank registrieren lassen als 'Payment Service Provider'. So bald wie möglich.

https://www.bitservicex.com/de

Gerne verbessere ich die Deutsche Übersetzung falls es nicht ganz korrekt ist

Bitcoin can contribute to a decentralized healthcare plan. People who need insurance simply pay a fee to a decentralized Bitcoin escrow network for their healthcare. Certified professionals (docters) hold a private key to tap into that escrow fund. If 6 peers (3 patients, 3 doctors) approve the need for healthcare payments, the patient receives the cash, which he can use to pay the doctor.

Advantages of a P2P healthcare system:

1. Everybody can sign up - no background checks, no denial of insurance (democrats love this);
2. Everybody can decide their own monthly fee;
3. Anyone who has paid into the pool can get healthcare;
4. System maintenance cost is much lower than commercial healthcare (you get more healthcare for your $);
5. The government cannot force you to participate (republicans love this);
6. The network/protocol can automatically identify abusers and lock them out permanently;
7. people can organize different pools. For example, republican billionaires don't have to be in the same pool as the 99% - everybody is free to organise their own pool.

This satisfies both 'democrat' and 'republican' needs. In fact, any group of people could organise their own healtcare pool. The 99% could have their own pool and the 1% could have their own pool. Who cares?

Sure, we need to put in the security checks to minimize abuse. Sure, there will be "elite healthcare pools" and "pools for the poor". I think this is inevitable. Nevertheless, people will receive more healthcare than traditionally. And that's the point.

Years ago I had this idea of a 'P2P healthcare' system. Bitcoin got me thinking about it again...

Ik heb een eigen Bitcoin handel gelanceerd. Ik richt me op de Europese markt. Momenteel bied ik inkoop/verkoop. Je kunt Bitcoins kopen met iDEAL, Giropay, Sofort Banking of Bancontact / Mister Cash, zolang de voorraad strekt.

Voor de zomer zal ik ook een "trading" gedeelte starten om net als Mt.Gox in Bitcoins te handelen. Bij vragen, simpelweg het contactformulier gebruiken op de site.

In the 1960's, a company named Komatsu Limited, wanted to defeat major US bulldozer company Caterpillar in their home market.

Under their slogan 'Maru-C', meaning "Encircle C (Caterpillar)", they succeeded. In the Japanese Go board game, encircling meant to capture your opponent's territory.

So I would like to suggest a "Bitcoin Battle Cry":

"Maru-CC" - Encircle Credit Card

If Bitcoin is the Bittorrent of money, then credit card companies are the new music industry. Let's not wait another decade - Maru-CC!

According to Bitcoinity market stats,
http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html

MtGox trades 560 million USD (volume) per 30 days.

At their 0.60%-0.55% transaction fee, that's about 3 million USD per month turnover for MtGox. I assume their monthly expenses are below 100K? Those guys are doing fine.

I had to google for the old IP address, amazing indeed

According to who.is, it was transferred to:

Name: Martti Malmi
    Organization: Malmi Web Tech
    Address 1: PL 116
    City: Helsinki
    State: Uusimaa
    Zip: 00101
    Country: FI
    Phone: +358.458581880
    Email: martti.malmi@aalto.fi

Just like fiat money which can be forged/printed, there will be Bitcoin forks that do a little damage for a short time. But neither strategy will prove succesful: most fiat money is still the real thing, despite criminals printing millions of it.

Your topic title reads "taxing transactions", but your explanation refers to "taxing gains from speculation", which is really not the same. Canada is not going to tax "transactions", but your profits from handling Bitcoin.
In The Netherlands, where I live, this is already the case, because Bitcoins follow existing tax laws. If I make a 100 EUR profit from trading Bitcoins, I will pay income tax on that 100 EUR. That's not strange to me at all. I would find it strange if Canada did not tax your profits.

Pre-order van BFL :-) Volgens mij kan BFL helemaal niet leveren.

Je zet het er wel eerlijk bij: een order van 30 juli 2012...

According to the lawyer,


So that's what I'll do. I'm not taking the risk of the "lazy approach".

Hello,

I sell downloadable software for Bitcoins on www.appmerce.com. I offer Bitcoin as a payment method.

I'm also promoting Bitcoin among merchants.

Via een online wallet inderdaad, of de MtGox koppeling. Ik denk echter dat iedere serieuze merchant (met genoeg Bitcoin omzet) liefst zelf een bitcoin server draait. Dan heb je 0,0 transactiekosten (afgezien wellicht 0,0005 BTC voor het netwerk). BitPay rekent 0.99% en zijn daarmee, net als Visa/MasterCard, gewoon ouderwetse dieven. Dat was juist niet de bedoeling van Bitcoin.

Credit Cards provide certain functionality like recurrent billing. This matters from merchants' and customers' point of view. I would like to discuss technical implementation of such features on top of the Bitcoin system. It will make Bitcoin more adoptable by the masses.

The point is to make Bitcoin more competitive compared to credit cards. I'm not arguing for credit cards, just trying to invent Bitcoin workflows. Please help me design the solutions!

Case A: automatic refunds
Use case: merchants sometimes need to provide refunds. A Bitcoin transaction does not include a from address. Although you could do a blockchain lookup to figure it out, I guess. The implication is that Bitcoin cannot handle automated refunds.

Possible solutions: send a refund 'request' via email. Customer needs to enter Bitcoin refund address online. Automated script then processes the refund.

Alternatively, would it be possible to include a return address in a Bitcoin transaction? If so, then refunds could be automated. This is a valuable feature to merchants. Note, this is different from 'reversible' transactions. The merchant only uses the return address to return coins back to the sender via a new transaction.

Another solution would be to ask customers to "please enter your refund address" in case of a refund. Online wallets can play a role too.

Case B: split payments
Use case: the European Union has enacted laws that customers may not be forced to pay >50% of an online purchase in advanced. Split payments, e.g. 50% in advanced, 50% upon receipt.

Possible solution: again, using email. A merchant asks for 50% Bitcoin payment. Upon shipping he sends an email requesting another 50% payment.

Case C: recurrent billing
Use case: imagine dating sites or selling magazines etc. Recurrent billing (like PayPal or credit cards offer) is obivously not doable with Bitcion out of the box.

Possible solution: using email merchants can send periodic payment reminders. Customers would click a bitcoin: URI link to pay.
Perhaps a better solution would be to hold an online wallet from which to deduct Bitcoins.

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I think online wallets are going to have to play an important role in these scenarios. But then you have a problem: online wallets are centralized systems. It would be better to implement features within Bitcoin itself, to keep the features decentralized.

Yeah, the PDF mentions that Hausdorf is accused of "phishing attacks", luring innocent German citizens to tranfer money onto his Polish/German bank accounts.

That's ridiculous. The legal basis to close his bank accounts is "to stop money laundering and financing terrorism".

Do you know what this sounds like? This sounds like the fiat system's attempt to kill Bitcoin by attacking online exchanges like BTC24, and accusing them of financing terrorism.

Luckily MtGox is in Japan. However - MtGox also has Polish accounts. These accounts are under threat of a similar close-down. Make sure not to transfer any more money via MtGox's Polish account! The European banking system is clearly trying to shut down Bitcoin by attacking our BTC exchanges.