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Ich finde die Preise generell zu hoch. Das ist über eBay Niveau.
Die reinen Module sind leider nichts besonderes. Anders würde es aussehen, wenn auch noch Anleitung und Box verfügbar wären.
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We can't share trade history api to anyone, its secret, non public. I expected this answer. There is no reason to hide any past tradings. No proof = SCAMExtended Validation for SSL encryption is provided for legally accredited entities like Dr. Bitcoin . Authenticity of this resource and its trustworthiness is confirmed by COMODO CA Limited. Secure connection is encrypted with a 2048-bit key. Relying party warranty for Extended Validation SSL Certificate is $1,750,000.00 . Nice try. Insurance is for online credit card payments only. You don't offer credit card payment. EV SSL provides absolutly NO guarantees to investors. |
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What you want exactly? Some kind of API based trade histroy. No need to have a live one, a time-lagged one is fine. NO Screenshots! We accept escrow service. How should that work? Gaining interest without using the deposit? 2. I still don't see how an "EV SSL" gives any guarantee. What is included? |
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The fact is they paid out weekly since they started. Just like any ponzi scam... |
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just another bitcoin-trader.biz ponzi till real trading evidence is shown.If you are professional trader in Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, so you know 8% per month is normal rate of profit in trading.
No WE ARE NOT HYIP or PONZI, for the reasons.
1. Our company is certificated by COMODO
2. we are physical company
3. We have money back guarantee 1. How does a SSL certificate guarantee a honorable company? 2. Clever ponzis always register a Limited. 3. Like everyone does... All 3 facts are the same with a lot of ponzis out there, including bitcoin-trader.biz running with about 7.5 M$ of investors money. Provide evidence of your successful trading acitivites. bitcoin-trader.biz plans was 1.75% - 3% DAILY  It was really funny. Our plan is 8% per month and its rational in bitcoin trading business. We could add 0.5% per month or 6% per year(To gain the trust people), but we add 8% profit for all. Do you know about EV SSL? " Extended validation (EV) certificates use the highest level of authentication and were specifically created to boost and maintain customer confidence in ecommerce through a rigorous verification process and specific, EV certificate-only browser cues like the green address bar. EV certificates incorporate some of the highest standards for identity assurance to establish the legitimacy of online entities. "  You mean All Limited companies are just a ponzi? So Comodo is ponzi?  or many banks are ponzi? Such as https://www.ubldirect.com or https://www.ktbnetbank.com/consumer/ or https://homebank.tsbbank.co.nz/online/ etc Thank you for good questions 1. You would be a bunch of idiots offering the same interest rate as bitcoin-trader.biz. Long time, they offered just about 0.8 %. Offering a lower rate doesn't make anything legit. 2. I still don't see how an "EV SSL" gives any guarantee. What is included? 3. No, but clever driven ponzis register LLCs to lead investors to believe "they have an registered company, they must be legit". A registered company doesn't make anything legit nor provides anykind of safty for investors. 4. Company owners are from Iran, there is simply no law enforcement. Again, I'm asking for a prove of your successful trading activities. |
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just another bitcoin-trader.biz ponzi till real trading evidence is shown.If you are professional trader in Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, so you know 8% per month is normal rate of profit in trading.
No WE ARE NOT HYIP or PONZI, for the reasons.
1. Our company is certificated by COMODO
2. we are physical company
3. We have money back guarantee 1. How does a SSL certificate guarantee a honorable company? 2. Clever ponzis always register a Limited. 3. Like everyone does... All 3 facts are the same with a lot of ponzis out there, including bitcoin-trader.biz running with about 7.5 M$ of investors money. Provide evidence of your successful trading acitivites.
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Nice penalty tactic. Short calculation: With a min of 0.5 % somebody has to stay at least 50 days in your system to get out without any loss to the initial investment!! the release of the deposit, he commissions based on the time remaining.
30% if it has run for 10 days
25% if it has a duration of 20 days
15% if it has a duration of 100 days
10% if it stays for 1 year or more. The most important fact is missing in your ToS... 15.3. The liquidation of a profile for more than 70%, may, in some cases, delay payment up to a maximum of 90 days from the date of the request. Usually we settle all the profiles in the span of 30 days from the request. 90 days maximum? Unacceptable. I just wanted to mention that the first scam in the world, are the banks, yet all use ... This one is scammers opinion no.2. I gave it a try with 0.01 BTC. In your ToS nothing is mentioned about any release fees. Will you refund my deposit at withdrawal rate (1 %, min. 200 µBTC)? |
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Feel free to take the time for your paperwork. If you had done that before, there won't be a discussion like this one. Scam is given to a service that stops paying, whatever it is. Well, thats scammers argument no.1: This is similar to all scams/ponzis. bitcoin-trader.biz were "legit" over 1 year till they decided to run with investors money. There already collapsed so many mining clouds ponzis I can't even count. Withdrawal fee is 30.00% or uBTC 0.01 as minimal30 % fee, seriously? |
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Nice to see SCAM tacting number 1: Personal attacks It's just a couple of hours your ponzi is listed in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0You can find 7 questions in there, I'm waiting for your answers. @nguyenducquy Your sig-promoted service is already listed btw. |
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Still SCAM with 0.7 % a day. Thats 255 % a year. Fyi, Bernie Madoff went to prison offering 12 % a year!
Answer my questions!
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Daily profit of 1,32 % -> HYIP/SCAM
Where is this company registered?
Registration number?
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Die Münze ist bisschen ein Mix. Für jene, die auf den Gold- und weniger auf den Euro setzen, ist der Preis zu hoch. Die kaufen sich Plättchen/Baren. Für Münzsammler wiederrum ist vermutlich die Qualität zu niedrig. Die Münzen sind "stempelfrisch" und nicht "spiegelglanz" oder "polierte Platte". Aber gut, ich bin kein Numismatiker.
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@cointellect
How is it possible to get >5 € per day with 25 MH/s? I can't see any coin that profitable.
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i bought a PILOT 6 month contract 2months ago.
299Euro, with an apparent 100% return so far .. the rest is profit Tripling money in about 3 months sounds like an HYIP/SCAM. |
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Alles klar. Ja, das Angebot ist witzlos.
In dem anderen Thread wurde dir geraten bei Neteller zu melden, dass dein Account gehackt wurde. Laut dem dortigen User bekommst du dann das Geld retour und sein eigenes Konto wird gesperrt. Da du das allerdings nicht sofort gemeldet und den Account normal weiter verwendet hast, ist eine glaubwürdige Hacker-Beschwerde kaum noch möglich.
Ich kenne Neteller zuwenig. Wenn es dort die Möglichkeit gibt einen Betrugsfall zu melden, dann dies aufedenfall tun.
Ansonsten kannst du nur eine Strafanzeige bei der Polizei machen (kostet nichts), bringen wirds vermutlich auch nicht viel. Hängt davon ab, aus welchem Land derjenige kommt.
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I never had any withdrawing issues. You should really check your spam folder. Not your local one in outlook but your email provider.
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Hard to say (same for about all bitcoin sites). They have at least a comprehensible business model.
There is just one big negative point in comparison to BTC lending club: BTCJam earns interest when loans are activated, BTC lending club when they are repaid. Thus, BTCJam is earning even with scam loans.
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My experience:
After 2 defaulted loans (0.1 BTC in total only) and watching a lot of loans they went overdue, I got really restrictive:
- no rep.-loans anymore
- no investing in loans with amounts higher than borrowed ever before (this prevents from accounts made for one single purpose: scam)
- accounts with history only (old accounts, high count of positive feedbacks - not only from small rep.-loans)
- investing in accounts with already opened loans with high caution only (depending on amount)
- always calculate the total interest, if it's much higher than a bank loan or an overdued bank account or credit card (something around 15 % in Germany/Austria each quarter = ~3,75 %/month) stay away. Employed people do have a bank account.
- almost no ivestments for mining (most miners won't achieve break-even)
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