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1201  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If they banned bitcoin in your Country (just clone a representation of it) on: July 19, 2019, 10:43:54 PM
Governments may be slow with catching up on developments within the crypto world, but they aren't stupid. They are well aware of how many clones we already have pretending to be a better version of Bitcoin. It's common sense that they will wipe the floor with everything related to crypto at once and be done with it for good in such a scenario.

We're already at a point where the issuance of stablecoins by corporations is nearly at a point of becoming threatened. I'm really glad Bitcoin has always been that speculative investment thingy in their point of view. The less of a threat you seem, the more comfortable they are to let it grow further as digital Gold.
1202  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-10]Bitfinex and Tether Accused of Illegally Issuing USDT on: July 19, 2019, 09:08:39 PM
USDT's idea collapsed as soon as the connection between it and the US dollar differed.
There is a lot of uncertainty about this currency so I do not expect there to be real coverage in US dollars, which means that the currency has completely failed.
I like decentralized models of coins.

The idea perhaps, but the token itself is more widely adopted than ever before.

People are stupid, they know Tether is most likely not fully backed, yet don't care but still use it to move fiat from one exchange to another. People will feel the pain when their Tethers will become worthless, that's when they will regret selling one of the most precious assets in the world for something shittier than the real dollar.

Most people don't need super high liquidity. Exchanges such as Binance support USDC pairs that generate enough volumes for the far majority of the traders. You can't prevent people from doing stupid things, but at least using USDC instead of Tether is less stupid.
1203  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-19] Bitcoin Declared Legal Commodity in Chinese Court on: July 19, 2019, 08:47:25 PM
I am not sure if I should be shouting in joy with this news or should I again treat it with some grain of salt as we know that as far as cryptocurrency is concerned China is known to be sending very mixed signal to the whole world.

It's China, so there is no point in getting excited. I can't remember how China ever contributed to something of positive nature during their glory days. It was always drama related.

Chinese people interested in Bitcoin have found their ways to still buy it, so it's not that we need anything from them. Let China just hold off and be hostile towards anything they consider a potential threat. Bitcoin has grown immensely without the China as we know it back in the days. No China means way less drama. Good riddance!
1204  Economy / Exchanges / Re: About probit exchage do you have experience to use this exchange? on: July 19, 2019, 07:52:00 PM
It's a South Korean exchange, which I by default wouldn't really trust due to how other South Korean exchanges have treated their foreign users.

The positive thing however is that this exchange seperates itself from the rest of the South Korean exchanges were random shitcoins generate 10-100x the volume of their Bitcoin pairs. Probit's Bitcoin pairs generate the most volume which you should expect from an exchange. https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/probit-exchange/

They have a decent volume but an awful lot ot shitcoins listed. I think the best thing to do here is to just try out the exchange with a very low amount to see how it works and how friendly it is towards a foreign user. If you can trade and withdraw without problems you could choose to increase the amounts over time. Better safe than sorry.
1205  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Coinapult - Jan 2018 on: July 19, 2019, 07:27:28 PM
They can always generate a transaction (with TXID) without broadcasting it, and if it isn't broadcasted it will never be confirmed as it won't show up in the mempool which explains why you're not seeing it in any block explorer. It's not exactly a bad thing as it's a process when spending from a cold storage.

So assuming that coinapult isn't pulling an exit-scam. I'm thinking that your transaction is still in queue waiting to be broadcasted. Your biggest problem is reaching out to their support team 'cause it seems dead.
If they pre-generated the txid they shouldn't forward it to the user but actually leave the withdrawal status at pending or something.

I have never seen a service that I use forward me a txid that hasn't been broadcasted to the network. Makes little sense in my book. It only causes unnecessary confusion.

I am waiting about 2 weeks now and my BTC withdraw is still processing. And I can't find this transaction on blockchain.
It's definitely a shady practice in this case. The user is waiting for two weeks now with a "non" broadcasted txid reeks of scam. I hope I'm wrong and OP will be getting his money, but I don't have much faith in a good outcome unfortunately.
1206  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin so valuable just because it was first? on: July 19, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
Some altcoins are better than bitcoin for specific purposes. Bitcoin has the trust of the people and a very solid system.
Any altcoin that wants to compete with bitcoin has to offer something new, otherwise is just a bitcoin clone...

Altcoins are better than Bitcoin only in the way that they go up more short term speaking, which allows people to use them as leveraged bet to increase their Bitcoin holdings. I have yet to find an altcoin that is actually being used for something other than speculation and gambling related dapps. It's mostly just a shitshow overall. Big promises but none of these promises are being followed up by a working product as originally intended.

Bitcoin has an incredibly strong network effect, the brand awareness behind it, the security, the progress in terms of second layers such as Lightning, etc. Altcoins have already lost the battle in terms of fast and cheap transactions. Lightning keeps growing and keeps enjoying more merchant adoption on a daily basis.

In the end, altcoins don't even have to deliver a product. Them being a speculative object is more than enough for people to buy into them. A lot of shitcoins with zero actual utility are worth hundreds of millions of even billions in some cases. Speculation is their killer "application".
1207  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2019-07-18 CNBC - Mnuchin says Treasury will ensure bitcoin doesn’t become ‘Swis on: July 18, 2019, 04:44:42 PM
Sweaty palms and armpits, you got to love these nocoiners trying to come up with all sorts of justifications to make sure their economy won't take a hit.

Bitcoin isn't and will never become a 'swiss bank account'. They have proven to be unreliable and subject to seizure by governments thinking it's well justified to steal people's money. Bitcoin might be transparent, but it's impossible to order X or Y central party to freeze our cold storage balances like they often order banks to do when they don't like certain people or their behavior.
1208  Economy / Speculation / Re: why Bitcoin sudden dump, when it will bounce again... on: July 18, 2019, 03:00:48 PM
i seriously doubt that there would be any difference between Libra and PayPal. in my view they are exactly the same thing and people (the end users) don't care or even notice what the underlying technology is, whether it is a simple database (aka PayPal) or a blockchain (aka Libra) in the end they will be having an account linked to their identity on a website controlled by a company that acts as their "online bank".
and i don't think they are going to put any kind of links between their coin and bitcoin, their website, their paper,... don't even mention bitcoin. not to mention that it will be centralized.

Libra is similar to what XRP is today, but then even more centralized. You will have your private keys, and you will be able to store your funds offline. PayPal does not offer you that in any shape or form. That's where Libra and financial institutions such as PayPal differ on a fundamental level.

As far as being linked to Bitcoin goes, that will happen through crypto exchanges where they already offer support for USDC, USDT, PAX, etc. Libra will be the next one to enter the list of stablecoins. It will help prop up Bitcoin's price and make sure capital stays within the system just like how capital in the aforementioned stablecoins stays within the system.
1209  Economy / Economics / Re: Facebook Bank on: July 18, 2019, 02:39:56 PM
I think yes and hope the US government will hold back this tremendous development.

That means you are anti freedom? If you find it okay that the US government stops Facebook from executing their Libra project, you will find it similarly okay that they will stop native crypto projects from building products and services. I'm not a fan of Facebook, but Libra is quite an ingenious project with the potential to serve billions of people with little to no effort.

It will complement Bitcoin too, so what's the problem? Don't be a fan of a bunch of people you never met in real life to decide what can and can't be done. Facebook should be allowed to pull it off.
1210  Economy / Economics / Re: buying bitcoin is like immigrating to a new country on: July 18, 2019, 02:03:34 PM
Terms of wealth distribution?This isn't similar to fiat even though there are some numbers of whales but those people cant completely move out
the market as they like.Imagine on how big the community who do support it.

Are you referring to whales not being able to cash out as they please? They surely can. The spot market has been dwarfed by the OTC market in the last couple of years. Bitcoin doesn't suffer from a lack of OTC demand, more so the lack of supply. The insane on-chain value transfers suggest how vigorous the OTC market is.

I find it increasingly interesting how people think that we'll ever reach a point at which wealth distribution is something that can/will improve. It will never happen. Smart money will always be able to multiply and be ahead of inflation and whatnot, while dumb money will continue to complain about how unfair everything is. If they spent as much time working on improving their financial situation as they did complaining, they might have actually improved. Roll Eyes
1211  Economy / Speculation / Re: why Bitcoin sudden dump, when it will bounce again... on: July 18, 2019, 11:37:47 AM
The mainstream could continue paying with Paypal and credit cards since it's all the same anyway. This way, they won't even need to pre-convert any money to Libra.

If it works similarly to how for example the stablecoins we have here work, it's actually quite an improvement over the services offered by financial institutions such as PayPal.

Don't forget that PayPal is a safe haven for scammers with how their bias always leans towards the buyer. I'm certain Libra in working condition would greatly exceed the workings of PayPal & Co. PayPal is shit all the way through. It costs me like $4 to send a sub $50 sum of money to someone in another country. Libra will demolish this house of cards. I welcome it.

Also, Libra is an amazing tool if it's paired against Bitcoin because that means a new stream of liquidity finding its way to Bitcoin.
1212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hope for the best, Expect the worst on: July 18, 2019, 11:09:40 AM
But for noobs, this will also be another test for them and see how can they stand specially seeing the price goes down from $13000-$9000. So let's see and just hope that everything will be on our favor.

Noobs will fail every test. It's impossible for them to withstand the brutal nature of this market when they 1) have invested their life savings, and 2) they have no clue about how Bitcoin works under the hood. Every $1-$2000 dip makes them question themselves so much that it drives them nuts to a degree where the sell button is just one click away.

Noobs trading stocks are similar. In the last couple of decades nothing changed when it comes to their behavior during corrections, so why would anything change in a market that's even more volatile and brutal? No amount of tips and tricks is enough to educate these poor fellas. They should stay far away from any type of market.
1213  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The time of seriousness is disappearing on: July 17, 2019, 02:48:56 PM
and that is also why technical analysis never works for bitcoin. because newbies and weak hands increase the volatility to unexpected levels.

Technical analysis does work, but people should understand that it offers no certainties. It's all a probability game in the end.

During extreme waves of panic selling or fomo buying it's indeed very difficult to know where we will peak/bottom out, but the price mostly ends up reversing at a very important level that you can prepare yourself for. I personally am a Fibonacci fan and it showed its importance twice so far.

The main reason why people think technical analysis is bs is because of how self proclaimed gurus or experts pop up totally not understanding what they are talking about. Unfortunately, these clowns are what we read the most about so it's not that surprising to see people dislike technical analysis.
1214  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The biggest battle for Bitcoin's life is coming on: July 17, 2019, 12:53:18 PM
I am prepared and ready to buy more from the weak hands.

Yes. I actually love it when the price tanks like this this. If people are actually hardcore Bitcoiners, they would love it too because their silly fiat currencies for once provide some utility in the way that you can get more coins for them. $100,000 will be nothing but a temporary hurdle just like the $20,000 level is right now.

Let the price tank, find a new floor, and from there enjoy the next leg up. Hodling Bitcoin hasn't ever been this easy with so much progress. Allocating a part of your income to Bitcoin has become a whole lot more attractive now the price is going the other way. Smiley
1215  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-15] Angry Investors Burn down Bitcoin Ponzi Scheme Operator’s Home on: July 17, 2019, 12:15:25 PM
There is no jail for people like him, police is on his side, and I bet he has some judges on his payroll. Even if convicted, he will get some funny little punishment, it is much better for system to let him go away.

It really sucks that the police and potentially even the judges are so underpaid that these criminals can easily triple/quadruple their salary just for an easy ride out.

I'm certain he will lay low for a while and then set up another scam because it clearly is rewarding enough to repeat. With people continuously being stupid enough to invest in this garbage it's easy money, money these scammers would never be able to make in a legal manner even if their entire families worked for 100 years straight.
1216  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-10] Fold App Enables BTC Lightning Payments at Whole Foods, Starbucks on: July 17, 2019, 11:29:48 AM
You still use the term of lighting payments as there is such lighting payment between the customer and the merchant ..and there is none  Grin Grin Grin
This is what I'm trying to say.
It's categorized as a gift card because you pay with a gift card code.

My apologies. You are right.

I managed to gain access to the site through a US proxy because my region is blocked for some reason. So what happens here is that you top up the Fold app through Lightning, then for example buy a Starbucks voucher, and use these to actually pay for coffee over at Starbucks.

That's quite a disappointment on one side because there are no direct Lightning payments, but also good on the other side because these vouchers offer some sort of anonymity because the merchant doesn't know who paid for it, just that items are paid with a voucher.
1217  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2017 Crash DejaVu? on: July 16, 2019, 10:23:01 PM
dropping nearly 60% isn't bullish. bitcoin doesn't do that during bull markets. the only exceptions were essentially flash crashes in august 2012 and april 2013. we don't have the same illiquid conditions as back then so i doubt it.

in the most optimistic scenario, bulls could hope for a long term sideways market after a drop like that. at worst, it would mean we're actually in a bear market. and going sub-$3k after an epic 6 month bull trap pretty much guarantees we're going much deeper, likely below the 2013 ATH. that would threaten to break the entire historic bull trend.

instead, i think the "rebuy at $6k" idea willy woo and others are pushing is just a pipe dream.

Building up a higher price floor is extremely bullish long term speaking. The short term action might not be from the general point of view.

People just need to discard the few hours that we've been hovering over the $13,000 level. Current price action might be an early indicator that the bull market is over, but there is nothing that you can do about it other than to adjust to the changed market dynamics. The trend is your friend until it no longer is, and the friendship is weakening day by day. The bounce from sub $10,000 to just over $11,000 was a poor show.

We need a bit more price action, but it seems that we are forming a large decending triangle.

You got to love this market. One week ago we were all bullish and now it's going the other way. Cheesy
1218  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2017 Crash DejaVu? on: July 16, 2019, 09:33:16 PM
Gravity is doing its work. It just isn't healthy to go up the way we did if we don't build up support zones.

Even if we end up touching $6000-$8000 that's still great considering the fact that we put in a higher low. Going from the $3000 bottom to building a new price floor above $6000 is actually very bullish. It might not feel like that for most people looking at how the price went down hard from $13,800 to these levels, but this stimulates investors to cash out profits out of fear.

There just isn't a way around it, the weekly scale looks bearish. Adjust to the changed market dynamics or risk more disappointment.
1219  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-16] Canadian Town Says Yes to Accepting Bitcoin for Property Taxes on: July 16, 2019, 02:45:00 PM
I can't imagine freely letting the government know some bitcoin addresses which you own is really going to be that popular of an idea.

Yup. It's a great way for governments to know what you have been doing with your coins in the past. People not knowing how sensitive their transaction history is will pay the price for it one day. I'm sure they initially won't go after the smaller fishes, but when you add up the smaller amounts it might start to become quite lucrative for governments to start knocking on their door.

I will always pay my taxes in fiat and hope people will do so too. It might look like it's a great form of adoption that governments allow you to use Bitcoin through a payment gateway, but don't shoot yourself in the foot. It's a trap.
1220  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-10] Fold App Enables BTC Lightning Payments at Whole Foods, Starbucks on: July 16, 2019, 02:16:13 PM
Nope, the guys from fold said this.

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Transactions show up in fiat on a company’s balance sheet as either gift card purchases or store credit, depending on how Fold integrates with a particular POS.

For a transaction to show as a credit card or a gift card you can only pay via one of those unless you plan on hacking the visa network.

That's exactly what I said lol. You are mixing things up.

There is no option for the Lightning payments to show up on their balance sheet as Lightning payments, so they are being thrown in the same category as giftcard or store credit purchases.
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