Hybrid cards are definitely nice for high rig density, but ghods the COST compared to a good air-cooled card.

Might be the ONLY viable option for some folks in hot+wet climates though.

30 seconds should be plenty, unless the miner software is VERY VERY slow about turning off.
It actually should take less than 5, but sometimes the miner IS a bit on the slow side about turning the hashboards off....

 6-7 minutes is overkill, but on the definitely SAFEST side. 8-)

Looks like he set the card for about 60% of default TDP (150 watts or so) - which is in the most efficient ballpark range for all the Pascal cards I've worked with.

 5.23 5.10 5.09 on his first 3 readings - I'd call that 5.16 as an average, which is definitely but not hugely better than my 1070 ti cards at their near optimal 60% TDP setting that achieve 4.4+ or the 4.2ish ballpark a 1080 ti can manage at that same power setting.

 Looks like my "20% better efficiency" ballpark guess was pretty bloody close, though I don't know of BBT put the time into optimizing the other settings.

 I wonder if there is going to be a 1170 ti variant?

Ryzen 1700x when mining Monero is going to use MORE power than the 8320e, though less than the 8370 - even if you believe AMD's "quite a bit lower than REAL usage" TDP ratings for the high-end Ryzen CPUs.

 My Ryzen 1700 (NO X) which is a "low power" model uses right about the SAME power as the 8320e - though it does push out 100 more hash or so for that power usage.

 Why would a mining machine install that POS?

 I don't install that worse than worthless piece of garbage on my GAMING machines any more.

Volta SHOULD be more efficient than the current NVidia Pascal generation.

 I just don't expect it to be "night and day" level more efficient like the Maxwell-to-Pascal generation shift, since no new "process NODE" in involved, just more efficient variations on the SAME node + a bit more time to be able to fine-tune the arch.

The Newegg "Vega 56" sale at $409 seems to have been a very short-time thing, probably Black Friday targeted, and pre-dated the widespread "vega KILLS Monero mining" knowlage spread that has since caused the card supply to disappear.

 The Amp Extreme (like the Aorus) is WAY too big to fit 3 on a board and still be able to COOL the things, you pretty much are limited to 2 + whatever more you put on risers.

 Even if you CAN find one of the rare boards that allow 1-4-7 spacing like the various Gigabyte -UD7 varients, it's STILL not enough space between the cards for tolerable airflow.


 You MIGHT be able to fit 4 on one of those Onda mining-specific boards, one every OTHER slot, and be able to cool them.


 The Zotac Mini 1070 ti model matches the performance of my EVGA SC cards, except ir runs a coupe degrees warmer when both are at the same "high efficiency" settings.
 I just don't trust the fans, as they do NOT appear to be ball-bearing models, and I've flat out stopped even LOOKING at non-ball-bearing fan GPU models any more after having *4* Gigabyte cards with cheap fans flake out on me in the last month.

There have been a FEW threads about this VAPORWARE SCAM MINER COMPANY.

 DO try doing some research before starting ANOTHER thread on the same subject.

 Inno3d isn't available where I'm at, no opinion.

 Gigabyte G1 cards use cheap sleeve bearing fans that DIE way too young, I refuse to buy anything Gigabyte other than Aorus line cards for that reason.

Mining predated Net Neutrality - I don't see it's demise *IF IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS* being a noticeable issue, since mining is low bandwidth.

 I do think Net Neutrality was one of the VERY FEW things the Obama Administration ever did that has some logic to it.


 It is UNCOMMON in the US to only have ONE choice for an ISP - though it IS common for the competition to be between differing TYPES of service, like Cable vs DSL vs Cellular vs Sat (and vs EthernetToThePowerPole in some areas) among other less-common options.

 I can't remember the last time I lived in a place that had only "ONE" choice for an ISP (but I concede I've not lived in a true rural area in the Age of the Internet).

Ryzen FOR THE COST isn't all that great at Cryptonote (Monero) mining.

 I see 300+ hash out of my old FX 8320e CPUs that cost about a QUARTER of those Ryzen 1700X, and my 8370 pulls close to 400 hash at righr around a THIRD of the cost.
 Unfortunately, AM3/AM3+ motherboards that are viable for riser rigs seem to pretty much all have gone out of production and are hard to find any more....

I don't run lyra on anything, so can't make specific suggestions on settings for it.

 There is, AFAIK, no way to turn the LEDS off on those cards - but the LED power draw is very minimal (probably 2 digit MILLIWATTS for all the LEDS combined on those cards) so even if you COULD turn them off you wouldn't notice the difference on power draw.

 I DO wish GPU makers would drop the "useless fancy supposedly pretty but more IRRITATING" LEDs on cards though - a led on the power to indicate status is usefull, otherwise they're a waste of money and COST TO DESIGN THE THINGS INTO THE CARDS that I find to be annoying.

Hashrate is an interaction between the algorithm a coin uses, and the specific GPU model, and the settings a specific card can use while running that algorithm.

 The suggested "mining hardware comparison" search is a good place to start.

 The COIN as such has nothing to do with the hashrate, it is the algorithm the coin USES that matters - all coins that use equihash (ZEC, ZTC, ZEN, and others) are going to have the SAME hashrate on a specific card, as an example.


 Ethhash (as used by ETH/ETC/others) is an anomoly among algorithms in that it DOES have issues that cause the hashrate to drop over time due to growth in the DAG file size - as far as I know NO OTHER ALGORITHM has that particular issue.

They're the same GPU as the R9 280x - not great ETH cards but will work, fairly good ZEC cards.

 If your electric cost is low enough they should be solidly profitable.

 The amount of VRAM has no effect on the memory controller "thrashing" issue - but the wider memory BUS makes them less effected by it as well, even without the "blockchain" drivers.

 They also have a great future as workers in the BOINC "Milkyway" project (and can earn decent GRC that way) since they have very high FP64 performance for a non-workstation-specific card.

 Where are you getting these for $50/card???

1080 ti is a lot faster than 1070 ti in ZEC mining.

 BUT

 At the total system level, depending on card prices, the 1080 ti will usually be a bit worse on a hash/$ basis and a HAIR worse on a hash/watt basis unless you can get one on a VERY good sale compared to a "same model" 1070 ti card
 On the POSITIVE side though, it's *close* on both, and the rig density is a lot better for the 1080 ti.
 Both choices are good ones, which one is "optimal" depends on what you're specifically looking for and YOUR available pricing on the cards.


 Comparing at efficient points for each card (60% of "default TDP" tends to be close to the most efficient point for ANY GTX 1070 / 1070 ti / 1080 / 1080 ti card):

 1070 ti will pull 465 sol/s at 106 watts (using ebwf OR dstm, I didn't see any noticeable improvement for dstm at that setting in my testing) at a Newegg cost $470 for a EVGA SC model (figure more like $520 at total system cost level).
 1080 ti will pull 620 sol/s at 150 watts (using ebwf, I've not tested dstm on a 1080 ti yet) at a Newegg cost of $770 for an EVGA SC model (figure $830 total system cost, you need MORE power supply to run the card other costs will be the same).


 Both cards are capable of much higher hash rates if you push the power draw up, but the hashrate goes up a LOT slower than the power draw once you get past about the 70% TDP level (126 watts for a 1070 ti, 175 for a 1080 ti).


 Note that when I talk about TDP as a percentage, I'm talking specifically about the EVGA SC model of each card, or other cards that have the SAME default TDP (180 and 250 watts respectively) like the Zotac "Mini" models and quite a few others.
 Some 1080 ti models have a higher than 250 watt "default" TDP, and a very few (so far) 1070 ti models have a higher "default TDP" than 180 watts.

 

 BIOS from TheStilt on my Sapphire reference R9 290 cards dropped power draw some (I don't remember the actual figures, and didn't use one of the "deep undervolt" versions), dropped TEMPS a ton, and allowed me to run them at 1100 core vs TEMP LIMITING at 947 stock or less core while running 10 degrees or so COOLER despite the additional overclock.
 It was a night and day difference.

 DEFINITELY a good thing on a reference card, might not be needed on aftermarket cards with better cooling (and likely "upgraded" BIOS" already vs reference).

It's not possible. AFAIK, to "blacklist" a specific cryptocoin.

It's not like a serial number on a fiat bill where the serial number and the bill are always the same connected item.

Air intake and exhaust vent capacities should be designed to be equal, or very close to it.
If you are using fans on the intake, a HAIR higher on the intake side will tend to cause a slight amount of positive pressure in the room which keeps dust/pollen/etc. infiltration to a minimum from anything that isn't specifically designed to be a vent.

This is how most "old school" data centers were designed, and the "new school" stuff like the Yahoo "chicken coop" design is even MORE of a "positive pressure" design.

 Don't use fans for BOTH intake and exhaust though, that's a waste of power.
 Use fans on ONE side and size the venting for the other side to suit.

 The only reason to use both an intake AND an exhaust fan is if you are dealing with a high "backpressure" situation, an air path with a VERY congested airflow path - like the inside of an S7 or S9 miner.

 Litecoin should already be in GDAX - haven't heard of any plans for them to add ZEC DASH or Monero but none of those would shock me.

I don't generally bother chasing "hot coins" any more - I let other folks chase them and crash the profitability back down to where the non-hot coins are at.

 9-)



 Anyone else notice that AMD card pricing on the RX 570/580 seems to be creeping back up again?
 I suspect that the recent price jump on ETH (and other altcoins) is spurring mining demand again - though not to the level of this past spring.