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1201  Economy / Gambling / Re: l0tt0.com on: June 24, 2023, 10:59:06 AM
It appears that the OP's intention for this thread was to gather input and recommendations from the community regarding his gambling website, rather than using it as the primary announcement thread. Like soft-launch or beta testing. The OP can use this thread to gather input from the community, and then he can move on to making a separate announcement when he feels like it's ready for the public eye.

Always good to read up all community sentiments since this could make their gambling site more better and provably from listening tl what people suggest they can catch the interest of majority of forum users to try out what they can offer. To many lottery type gambling site exist and for sure a lot of people already get used to it. So maybe they should add some exciting vibe so that site visitors will always get excited when they open their site and convince them to gamble.
1202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: June 23, 2023, 10:24:38 PM

they are very well-known personalities all over the world, I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of people who would want to see this fight happen. it's probably a once-in-a-lifetime chance to see two of the richest men in the world fight it out in the octagon.

It is definitely not there thing. What happens if few feeble punches takes one to the ground and he perhaps passes out, I guess we will see another record on genis book of records. Those rich guys likes to be alive to enjoy what they have built. Elon musk mum already given heads to what it is all about. It is not going to happen, that I don't see coming.
and so are a lot of the YouTubers who participated in a boxing match. you seem to be underestimating these two people a lot, Mark Zuckerberg recently joined a jiu-jitsu tournament and won a gold and silver medal, Elon Musk claims that he had trained in martial arts when he was a kid and briefly trained in Jiu-Jitsu as an adult(I saw a video clip of him on a joe rogan podcast). besides, pretty sure if this fight ever goes through(which is most likely not because of the twit of Elon Musk's mom) they'd train themselves to prepare for this fight. I am not going to claim that their fight will be good or spectacular, but it would still be entertaining to watch these two fight.

I don't know if they gonna let this fight to happen since they are both busy and this is just a waste of their time.  But if both of them bored and will make this fight to happen for sure this one create history even though this is not a serious fight. If there's betting gonna happen I will choose the youth since Zuckerberg has a lot of advantage on this fight since also he have good trainings compare to Musk which we don't know if he really can fight Zuckerberg in physical fight.
1203  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cryptocurrency Job Lists on: June 23, 2023, 01:00:18 PM
Maybe we should pin this thread  Cheesy But most of Cryptocurrency Job is highly skilled worker especially smart contract programmer is on high demand, Is there any sort of tutorial to guide how to become Smart Contract Engineer?
I tried to find jobs for content writing on Coindesk, Cointelegraph, BitcoinMagazine ... and the results are like you told, they requested good CVs with long experience in cryptocurrency and content writing.

It is not suitable for me but we can start from lowest sidesteps and gradually improve ourselves and climb up.

They look for guys who have a lot of experience since those clients want a job to be done without any issues. But don't get upset about it since for sure if you are consistent taking many jobs similar to what experience those companies ask for sure you became more skilled and can qualify to what requirements they ask once they hire another worker again. For now if there's opportunity knocking on your doors grab it since it will add to your portfolio and can solidify your reputation then be the best choice for them.
1204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Having no money to invest in Bitcoin is even better on: June 23, 2023, 11:26:44 AM
Do not walk away from Bitcoin investment because you don't have the money, it's even better not to have money because you will have the patience to learn more about everything, and when the money comes, you will be able to avoid many dramas.

There are people who cannot afford long hours just to earn bitcoin so they usually use their own money to earn profits in return.

But there are people who doesn't have any money to use so most of the time they exert more efforts to gain bitcoins by working multiple jobs they can get on any platform they are. So you cannot say about its good not to have money to invest since its still depends on situation we are facing on.
1205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: June 23, 2023, 10:08:48 AM
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It will be more successful if you have a YouTube channel or any social media platform where you can attract your followers to gamble.
Anything that a person think they cannot earn with it since they are lazy or being shy to share their referral link think that its just a waste of time if they do that. Maybe they are not really interested about it and just share their sentiments to the people who can read their statement. But if they do a lot of efforts and share the links of legitimate casino's or other platform they can possibly earn decently with it especially if they can convince whales to register under their links.
getting a "whale" who uses our referral link is a big fortune that rarely happens, as many people have said that there are many rich people out there who only rely on their income from referral links (whether it's a referral exchange link or a gambling site or project others) that they distribute regularly.  there is someone that i have seen on YouTube, who explained about the 5 side income that he did and spreading referral links is one of the things he did, he also showed how much income he got from the results of spreading these links so there's nothing wrong with spreading your referral link to the general public.

Rare to happen but if you are active in gambling forum then earn some influence on gambling scene maybe you can accumulate them especially if you are sharing tips that can catch up some peoples interest then high chances that you can invite people to sign up under you. But if you are just sharing it randomly without getting in touch with the players you want to target then maybe you cannot get them and only small gamblers will sign up your link just out of curiosity.
1206  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How being open to ideas and comments help you learn? on: June 22, 2023, 10:52:12 PM

Not good to get always criticized since it cam drain out our energy since we would think about that we don't do any good on the careers we do. But you should also seek the reason why people criticize you since from this maybe you will get an idea about what are the things you need to fix and enhance so that you can do more better then next time you would earn praises  coming from your colleague's. We need to work more to enhance our knowledge on something we are interested to broad up our knowledge and that can help us gain more profit in future.

It should be a sort of balanced thing. You get criticized when necessary and you get praised when necessary. These two will form a moving force that will propel you to greatness. If you are always being praised, it will also give a sense of wrong judgement and will not motivate you to do your best.  You will definitely think you are the best and therefore you have arrived.
That can also be said for criticism. When you are overly and unduly critisized, you will tend to lose your confidence and self esteem.

Self evaluation too is another thing one needs to do regularly to know how far they have gone. When one checks their activities and people's reaction and response to  what they have down so far it enables them to have a rethink of either putting more efforts to mprove on whatever they are lacking or continue with the good work they have been doing.

One should be able to draw strength from criticisms to make corrections and also take accolades for good work done so as to do more. Only then there would be a balanced equation from bother end.

So important to have self evaluation on the information we receive coming from multiple sources since it can put us on closest thing that can help us on any matter especially on investment decisions we want to take. It also good for us if we are open to all ideas either its sounds bad or good since we may know the flaws and good thing on what we are searching for.
Its not bad to get criticize for mistakes done since its more important that we take action to improve.
Self evaluation is absolutely essential when analysing data from multiple sources especially when making financial decisions. We can gain a deeper understanding and make better decisions by critically analysing the material. Even if they appear to be unfavourable at first different points of view can help us see both the weaknesses and the advantages of the topic we are studying. Accepting constructive criticism for our errors is vital because it motivates us to act and continue to get better. In the end we may navigate financial decisions with more clarity and raise our chances of success through self evaluation and a willingness to learn.

Its so dumb decision to believe only on one side while we don't know if the stated information is thru or not and we believe them easily since they promise to give good information that can help us earn. This is so bad if we spot a scammer give this tips since maybe we will be the next victim and fall on their schemes. That's why it will be better to listen on different opinion since we can evaluate those information then it can help us to decide to do better decisions.
1207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: June 22, 2023, 01:10:14 PM
Most times I don't have to blame the casinos because most gamblers who go for this bonuses don't even have the patience to read the terms and conditions before going for it because if they do, then they would have understood  that it wasn't going to be an easy task.
Nevertheless, I would prefer that the casinos make this terms very fair and not extremely against  the player.
We can't blame the casino but must check what we've done to know what happened. If a gambler wants to get a bonus from an affiliate, they really have to be able to convince people that the casino is good and can be a place to gamble. However, people think that sharing affiliate links can bring them a lot of bonuses but that's not the case. They can get a lot of bonuses if people who join under them use big money to gamble so the bonus will also be big. But if they don't, they won't get a big bonus or even get anything.

Mind you, there are still many individuals who earn a decent income by sharing affiliate links. In fact, it's considered a safer way to make money in gambling because you don't have to gamble yourself to earn money. Instead, you simply need to persuade people to gamble and sign up using the link you provide.

It will be more successful if you have a YouTube channel or any social media platform where you can attract your followers to gamble.

Anything that a person think they cannot earn with it since they are lazy or being shy to share their referral link think that its just a waste of time if they do that. Maybe they are not really interested about it and just share their sentiments to the people who can read their statement. But if they do a lot of efforts and share the links of legitimate casino's or other platform they can possibly earn decently with it especially if they can convince whales to register under their links.
1208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Casinos Go Bankrupt Because of Player Wins? on: June 22, 2023, 12:05:24 PM
Never assume that a casino will go bankrupt due to players' big wins, as they are aware of their significant advantage over gamblers before they begin operating. Casinos have limits in place, even if a gambler is highly skilled, to prevent them from causing financial harm. In extreme cases, a casino may even ban a player.

Most instances of casino bankruptcy occur due to internal management issues and regulatory problems.
We don't expect a casino board to liquidate because of a player's winning, because they know how to handle extremely important issues like this, they can pay installment if the winning has become so substantial that it would affect their system, no board would want the website they operate to crash or malfunction due to heavy traffic, they already know what they signed up for before running a casino board. Casinos will not go bankrupt unless their administration is robust and stable enough to confront the possibility of big gains.

But for sure the winner would not like to get paid via installment since its unfair to the winner side to go to this point since they could not get paid if more winners will  win on their casino. This is serious situation since if they cannot pay in full meaning they might not excess for long term and that's also a big red flag to the players. They really should know more better since this is big issue if they will go bankrupt when many of their players win a huge prize on their casino.
1209  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How being open to ideas and comments help you learn? on: June 22, 2023, 10:29:18 AM
Surround yourself with people who criticize you. You will learn most from them. They will always push you with their negativity. Don't avoid people who always find a way to criticize you, they are kind of free bug testers working for you.
One is not always motivated through criticism. At times we do not need to be criticized to do more. We just need a simple couragement. Be it constructive or destructive criticism, everything has its time when it is time for you to be praised or encouraged you need the encouragement or praises and when it is time to be criticized you need the criticism. Constant and continuous criticism will however infusion in you some antagonistic spirit and will make you to achieve your goals in a more desperate away.

Not good to get always criticized since it cam drain out our energy since we would think about that we don't do any good on the careers we do. But you should also seek the reason why people criticize you since from this maybe you will get an idea about what are the things you need to fix and enhance so that you can do more better then next time you would earn praises  coming from your colleague's. We need to work more to enhance our knowledge on something we are interested to broad up our knowledge and that can help us gain more profit in future.

It should be a sort of balanced thing. You get criticized when necessary and you get praised when necessary. These two will form a moving force that will propel you to greatness. If you are always being praised, it will also give a sense of wrong judgement and will not motivate you to do your best.  You will definitely think you are the best and therefore you have arrived.
That can also be said for criticism. When you are overly and unduly critisized, you will tend to lose your confidence and self esteem.

Self evaluation too is another thing one needs to do regularly to know how far they have gone. When one checks their activities and people's reaction and response to  what they have down so far it enables them to have a rethink of either putting more efforts to mprove on whatever they are lacking or continue with the good work they have been doing.

One should be able to draw strength from criticisms to make corrections and also take accolades for good work done so as to do more. Only then there would be a balanced equation from bother end.

So important to have self evaluation on the information we receive coming from multiple sources since it can put us on closest thing that can help us on any matter especially on investment decisions we want to take. It also good for us if we are open to all ideas either its sounds bad or good since we may know the flaws and good thing on what we are searching for.
Its not bad to get criticize for mistakes done since its more important that we take action to improve.
1210  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: June 21, 2023, 11:57:50 PM
I think many people did avoid this scam site thanks to Bitcointalk, but never posted about it since very few people would be willing to create an account here just to warn others.

Googling 1xbit scam displays Bitcointalk in the top-5 results which probably helped many such players.
1xbit has scammed a lot of gamblers in the past at that time gamblers used to complain less on this forum, but more and more gamblers were complaining against 1xbit so now a lot of gamblers are aware of 1xbit's scam and are keeping a safe distance from this website. This is a huge success for Bitcointalk, exposing a proven scam gambling website to the crypto community.
Well, yeah, the crypto community together with the gambling community here is superb, collective efforts from the top forum users as well every other regular users coming together in one accord is what have lead to the super success of  the sensitization against the use of 1xbit, this wouldn't have worked out if the community was divided, and those who did the greatest work are the DT members who always take their time to tag every account found promoting 1xbit by wearing their signature, this alone leads to the fast success of the campaign, as it discouraged many users from joining the promote the casino for the sole purpose of earning money.
The good news is that their level of public participation here in the forum has reduced over the past few weeks and that could be a sign that there has not been any commitment to further spam in the forum via the signature campaign, the users involved have become tired of the constant battle to defend this scam casino 1xbit, and if this efforts in cleaning them off from this forum have yielded results it shows that yes forum members have won a great battle against a scam casino who have scammed a lot of gamblers in the past.

Maybe they see that they just wasting some money on running a sig campaign then still their reputation still so bad and almost all agree that they are one of the worst casino exist that need to avoid. Provably they are planning their next promotion but also they maximize their campaigns on other platforms since from there they can get a gamblers which didn't know their reputation. For now its good to see that they are not running any campaign in this forum since it can save up newbie to fall on traps they set.
1211  Economy / Economics / Re: SEC fighting for the publics my ass on: June 21, 2023, 03:28:47 PM
I don't like to think that there's someone paying a bribe to eliminate those exchange who operate in US market so that they can replace them and continue their personal interest to gain a lot of profit from this type of business.
For now its hard to conclude about many speculations to come since if that exchange will come out then we can say SEC official might protecting someone and they want this to pursue since this the one which they can control easily.
1212  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would Bitcoin Be Badly Hurt if Binance Goes Down? on: June 21, 2023, 12:05:52 PM
Because the problem that Binance is facing is only for those in America. So it won't be a big problem. And fortunately now the issues have started to meet common ground because Binance and the SEC have made an agreement which has also been approved by the judge. And very coincidentally after this problem was solved then the world's big companies started to move (Blackrock & Fidelity) and are applying for spot Bitcoin ETFs in the US.  Wink

Why not? There asset will be freeze if the case proceed so still there's a big impact it can cause especially when fud build up and for sure many people will bit it then start to dump their assets because they can't afford to see another heavy crash will happen. But still the same with other issues exist it will just be a short term cause of problem since binance can operate globally so for sure the same as what happen before price would recover after binance issue pass.
1213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: June 21, 2023, 10:15:48 AM
Anyone else getting excited for the NBA draft on Thursday June 22? I always love the NBA draft over most other drafts being that there is only two rounds, so you pretty much know anyone in round 1 or 2 could easily become and NBA star one day.

Lucky for the Spurs getting the number 1 pick.  I don't know much about Victor Wembanyama, but I do know he's hands down the number one prospect since Lebron, which is of course saying something.

That being said, Lebron is the most hyped prospect of all time...is Victor number 2?
Wemby is truly the greatest prospect on this draft and you might also be right that he could be next to Lebron. But we don't know yet what's gonna be the run of his career until we see him play. There is no doubt that the Spurs have secured him already and I'm excited to see who's gonna picked regardless of the no. they'll get and on what round they'll be picked. So after the easy NBA finals that we've watched, this is always the next big thing NBA fans are waiting for.

I think Wemby is going to be a bust. He’s just too tall and too young to have the strength he needs to play in the NBA. I think he’s likely to get injured long before he’s established the type of body he will need to compete in the key. I think he’s going to be bullied pretty badly and get hurt. Likely he won’t see much playing time for a while as a result.

We never know for sure, he might be one of those players that are born superstar as we know that they are just too rare. But before he can achieve that feat and be one of the most dominant players in the league, he sure needed some experience first because no matter how good he is right now, NBA is just too different from any other leagues in the world plus the players within are just too great too handle as they too have their own talent to showcase.

Media hype him so much so for sure extreme expectation will come out once he officially start his first game on NBA. It will be so bad if he cannot meet up the expectation since for sure he will be slammed by heavy criticism and might fans will call him a bust. For sure Wemby will get affected to much on the attention he get and might he cannot perform very well because for he might get distracted on the attentions he get online or even on the arena.
1214  Economy / Gambling / Re: lucky block casino locked my account for no reason demanding kyc funds lost on: June 20, 2023, 03:01:53 PM
Realization comes late after those people got scam. Most of them do background checking after they got compromised, if they just do their research before participating for sure they can avoid this problem. To many people could give their insights if they just ask since for sure for so many gamblers here staying in this forum for sure they will share their experience and feedback to the casino ask.

Also maybe he's just afraid to get scam for second time around since if the casino is proven scam there's no use for providing his KYC details since he might get more bigger problem with that.
Gamblers and every single market participant needs to learn that we do not enjoy the same kind of protections the fiat system gives us, if this was a problem with a fiat casino the OP could just open a dispute with their bank and they may be able to recover their money this way, but on this market we are our own banks and this signifies we need to protect ourselves as much as we can, and doing our due diligence before gambling at a new casino seems like one of the most basic things we could do to achieve this.
That is the exact point that most cryptocurrency gamblers avoid before joining a platform, people tend to get excited when they see very high bonuses being given by new platforms and forget that they might be a trap for them and what if they lose their money only to get that bonus, I know that you can always lose in gambling even if you are using a trusted platform, but that doesn't mean that you should go ahead and choose a platform you've never heard of.

A trusted platform will have a presence almost everywhere and they can be reached out easily and even if you face an issue, you will be able to get it solved because they won't just ignore you and take your money which might happen if you are using a new and untrustworthy platform.

Realization comes late with those unfortunate victim of scams and its really unfortunate to see that there are still people falls on to good to be true bonus offers by scam casino since its somehow obvious if they give unrealistic huge bonus reward to their gamblers. But since another issue exist like this its good to add this case up and be posted on scam accusation board so that newbies might have a reference that they should avoid this casino or make this as reference to be more careful while searching a platform to spend their time with.
1215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Top 40 Twitch accounts for gambling advertising on: June 20, 2023, 01:14:24 PM
Interesting list to follow although I don't know majority of them and only familiar with few name in a list but atleast its good to know thag there are so many streamers to follow. So let see if they add up some good context and truly can entertain their watchers.
Since if they are just the same with the other influencers who are just into hype just to promote their casino their supporting then maybe its just a waste of time to watch them.
1216  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Can we ever have this again in 2023? on: June 20, 2023, 12:09:14 PM
Can we ever have these again in 2023?

Going to back to the first days of bitcoin it was easy and cheap to get 5 bitcoins for free by just solving a simple task.
This bitcoin core developer, chief scientist on the forum, Gavin Andresen in June 11, 2010, created this web site https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/  that gives away Bitcoins. There were about ฿1,100  He wanted bitcoin to succeed. He wanted to see more people adopt bitcoin. How proud he would be right now knowing that bitcoin is succeeding and progressing. 5 bitcoins today at the price of $26797 per bitcoin is worth - $133,985

The website doesn't work anymore. The it will forever be remembered.
Here is the OP where he announced it on the forum - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183.msg1488#msg1488

Do we still have legit websites like this today that gives out free bitcoins?

Unfortunately no, we will not go back in that situation because we see how big the increase of price compare before and most provably the person who do that will not give any huge reward for the simple task they ask to their users.

Its really great to see that part of the history since if many people just know that we could go this far, for sure many people before will continue to farm bitcoin by those sites then hold it for long term and maybe became millionaire's when bitcoin reached on its past ATH or even by this current price.
1217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: June 20, 2023, 10:28:16 AM
Draymond leaving is the price the Warriors would have to pay for choosing Poole over Draymond in terms of salary contract.

This clearly shows that Draymond no longer has a favorable opinion of the organization. He was a valuable member of the team and played a significant role in the Warriors' multiple championship victories. However, when Poole joined the team and delivered an outstanding performance during their last championship win, the organization decided to give him a max contract to secure his stay.

Unfortunately, Draymond felt disrespected by this decision, leading to a strained relationship between the two players. As a result, it seems likely that both players will leave the team, with one potentially being traded.

If Draymond were to land with the Lakers, I would be confident in betting on them to win the championship.

Draymond still have favorable opinion on GSW organization its just their management didn't expect to see how awful the performance of Poole during important times that's why by now for sure they regret to give more higher contract to him since they would lose more valuable asset like Draymond. And now they can't offer what Dray ask them because they already paying luxury tax and they can't afford to increase it more.

Maybe if they trade Poole they can do something and it can change the mind of Dray to remain on GSW.
1218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Join Pi Network and be a part of the crypto revolution on: June 19, 2023, 11:51:34 PM
Lol! Pi network is a scam beyond your imagination! It's less of a crypto scam and more of a KYC scam.

Ask yourself a simple question! If anyone in the world can use their smartphones and start mining a coin for free, why would anyone else buy that coin from exchanges against money? Wouldn't they mine it from their mobile phone? If you get the answer to this question,, you will also understand that Pi coins will never have real value.

Also, you need to do an extensive KYC in order to use the mined Pi coins, so if you like to maintain your privacy, avoid this project like a plague.
I was introduced to pi years ago, even before I joined the forum. I mined for sometime and the other time I couldn't remember. Someone who introduced me said I should always set alarm to remind me to mine. But I re evaluated the whole thing and it didn't worth I was giving it. I had to uninstall the app from my phone and stopped mining.
Till today the coin is not hosted on any exchange but they have large community base. Do you know if they want to create a community where they will always use the pi coin for services.

Those people just sold their Pi coin thru p2p and I understand why they do this type of hyping because they want this coin to be transacted by their holders so that they can earn with it. But in reality its hard for this coin to get listed on exchange since even the dev seems don't have plan for any exchange listing where there community could benefit with. They are the one who's enjoying the site traffic and what worst is their miners need to submit their Kyc details and that is really dangerous since any harm could happen to them if Pi dev will gone crazy and do worst thing.
1219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: June 19, 2023, 02:55:04 PM

In my opinion the Bradley Beal trade makes 0 sense for both teams.

Beal makes around 45mil next season. KD and Booker also have huge contracts. All 3 of them are shooters, but they will take shots away from each other.
All 3 don't really play good defense . All the do is score.

So at least one of them won't make high scores as he is used to do. So how will that player will be worth the money they pay him?

Many people say the Suns will be much stronger now, I don't see it. It's just the KD/Kyrie/JH Nets 2.0 version in my eyes, and we all know how that ended.

I have that same sentiment. All 3 are offensive firepower unless Beal or Booker will adjust.

Booker already adjusted when KD comes in, I think that is enough for the Suns to be a good offensive player. Someone will have to give up if Beal enters the line up next season.


The problem with Suns management is they didn't give a another try on their current rooster. They always create big changes each year that's why they always go on adjustment period. If they just let those guys have good chemistry together Suns with CP3 is already a dangerous team. The departure of Paul in Sums leave a big gap with them since they lose a true point guard in their rooster. But we should give a try on what Beal could contribute up to this team since if they fail to have good chemistry with their new rooster addition we might can say that this is a fail trade to them.
1220  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Luck is what you need in gambling but you have to get to work with trading on: June 19, 2023, 12:24:59 PM
I have read many discussions about trading and gambling, some people have rather joined the two as gambling. That is not totally true. For traders who agree that trading is same with gambling, they are just lazy to go into work and adopt the ethical way to trade and those are:
Lots of people don't really understand what trading is all about, most of them don't really know how to do their analysis, most of them just see people talking about a particular coin, and they will also decide to buy which at the end, they will keep on hoping they are lucky the coin pump, we all know we also need luck in trading, some times you might think your analysis is right, but at the end you might be wrong, but that those not mean you depend on luck without running your analysis. Trading is not just about buying, you have to properly do your analysis to know the appropriate coin to buy, appropriate time to buy, and appropriate time to sell.


They only look for the risk factor but they never see how technicalities. Most of people say trading is the same with gambling is just basing their luck on random situation, they didn't even think about that their are other technical situations.need to consider. Compare with gambling that we just need to be lucky to win on those games.

People need to have separate thoughts about this since if they believe that gambling and trading is still the same maybe they will not try to learn more deeper on how to trade because the one came in their mind that trading is also a game of chance.
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